Below is an email I received. I know very little about the Evo. Fielding suggestions:
hello!
Having a bit of reoccurring problem with my Android and posted my question on facebook. Jason responded & said I should ping you.
First three months with Sprint Evo - awesome. The 7 months since? Erratically hellish.
here's the main issue presently -
Okay Android aficionados, I need advisement - My HTC Evo keeps binding up because my contact information just piles & piles up. It's either a Sprint/Android thing and/or how the setup is pulling updates from Facebook, and to a lesser extent, Twitter and LinkedIn. Any ideas on how to fix this? Short of rooting or an iPhone? App2SD can't move enough stuff to the card. Had about 4 factory reboots in the past 7 months; Sprint tells me it's the number of apps I use (not the case) OR the combination of different apps (Possible, but I'm not buying it). Any way to send contact info to reside on SD card? Strip off the bloatware? Both are workarounds for the real problem but at this point... just need it to work.
Continued -
Fighting the urge to send Dan Hesse an email... For as much as this phone legitimately adds functionality to my life, it has cost me some serious time and sadly, some money also.
One more for good measure -
I would cut out updating my contacts but the information should be able to parse back & forth WITHOUT gumming up. Even a contact list of thousands should be able to do so, given WiFi and 4G (WiMax network) bandwidth. It's bad scripts, conflicting subroutines or bad hardware. HTC has typically had pretty good stuff & quality control is solid. I should be able to tote this thing and have access to my contacts, without having to also tote a laptop and/or tablet. right?
Okay, that's all of the facebook post(s)
Any thoughts? I'm trying to do this without rooting if possible but getting to the point that I might be ready to finally step off the ledge. Don't want to go Apple route; had to get a (used) MacBook Pro recently because I might have to go work for a (marketing/PR) agency and wanted to get back up to speed on OSX. More Apple than I want already.
Thanks & it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance!
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A follow up email....
It's less that the speed isn't really crapping out, It's that the internal memory fills up. My contacts was sitting at 190mb earlier, 160mb now. All are google contacts, no phone contacts. When export the data, it's the paltry 1-2 mb.
Purged my facebook data on the phone to free up some space as a stop game. My phone suddenly bottomed out around 12 today with less than a megabyte of internal memory.
Sure size of the contacts have something to do with it but I've still yet to see any of the "social media personalities" (use that nomenclature loosely and dubiously) complain about contacts gumming up their phone. Probably aren't on Sprint and some get new phones comp'd often enough (to review?) that issue doesn't come up.
I believe in the spirit of Android for certain. It seems to be only thing that can prevent Apple from monopolizing the segment, since Microsoft can't come up with a hybrid of the two that works or gains any sort of real adoption. And I hate the idea of a guy in a mock turtleneck being the de facto source of how I should do things.
As far as non-rooted Android in practice, the current setup of stacking (carrier) bloatware, manufacturer UI / extraneous software and a slightly bastardized Android version (in my case, Gingerbread) seems like too many cooks in the kitchen, even before pouring in apps and data to be managed.
I like HTC's Sense UI but would love to vote all the Sprint crap off the island. If Sense is part of the problem... then I'm willing to look in different directions. I'll quite yammering
Yes, you have issues. You need to root your phone so you can properly move ALL APPS to the SD card. Whats the big deal about rooting? The main problem is space and Sprint does not care.
Root, use a sound custom ROM, move all apps to the card, live happily ever after.
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I recomend you flash Myn's Two Point Two RLS5 as a ROM, it has loads of internal space left after flashing, and lots of add ons like custom keyboards, SBC kerbels, etc...
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^ trust me, that was my first suggestion.
I do not know this person, but they do seem opposed to rooting. Not sure exactly how the internal is so low (I do not use an Evo, is this common?)
Surprised the internal memory is so little. My Vibrant has a ton.
Well, it has Sprint bloatware that can not be moved or removed. Also, contacts takes a chunk of space with that many. If he has fb on phone, that alone will cause problems.
Rooting is the only solution and then once he does, he will probably wished he would have done it months ago.
Seriously, WTF? ROOT IT! It wont break it. All it does is allow ,YOU, the owner, to do what you want with it.
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^ what is the best method now? Assuming the latest GB.... I saw that Revolution was a beta... is that what most use? Better methods?
Thanks man. Wish I knew more about the Evo.
As far as I know yes, revolutionary beta is the only method for those who took the update. I rooted before the update so i used autoroot but I haven't heard of anyone having trouble with revolutionary, works great from what I understand.
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Use revolutionary.
Follow instructions precisely.
You DO NOT need to get your serial number under battery!
When you download rev to your computer and run it, it puts your electronic serial number in brackets on the command prompt line. Use that esn and enter it on the rev website to get they key. Copy and paste that key to the command prompt and hit enter. Let it do its magic. Run superuser, INSTALL THE RECOVERY THAT IT PROMPTS.
Then you can switch to AmonRA after you reboot and confirm S-OFF.
Then make a full nandroid backup of your stock rom. Copy that backup to ur pc. Then install a stock rooted rom from here, then FREEZE apps you do not use, using titanium backup. Move all apps to sd card using titanium. Then reboot and see if your problem is solved.
Note...when you move an app that uses a widget, to the sd card, the widget no longer works.
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Just click the EVO rooted 2.3.3 in my sig it leads directly to the website
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I'm new 2 the rooting and the Android itself.. I got the 2.2 on my EVO like most ppl have via update, I'm kinda skeptical of rooting it still.. I guess my question is, is it worth rooting it and what changes on the device itself?
Any information would and will be extremely appreciated..
Thanx in advance...
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Good day to you.
First off. welcome. second, as its your FIRST post I hope you wont get flamed too hard because there are many many threads that cover the pros/cons of rooting.
I suggest next time you have a question, take a minute to use the search function (and post in the right forum! questions go in Q&A).
A few quick pros of rooting.
Free wireless tether (sharing your phones internet connection with a laptop or other wifi enabled device)
The ability to flash custom ROMs, these are the operating systems of the phone, they're all built off of (for the most part) stock htc/sprint images, but there are plenty and many options, find one that suits your needs and try it out.
Custom kernels, they are the set of drivers and the "brain" of your phone, want it overclocked? get a custom kernel, want it undervolted (Save battery) get a custom kernel. many options to choose from
Custom Boot screens.
Root only applications, titanium backup (backs up stuff, i dont use it so i cant elaborate), shootme (screenshot program) and others im sure.
Hope this clears up some stuff, welcome, use the search (really im just trying to help ya here) and have fun!
Round of applause for nenn. While I agree with your first few sentences, there aren't many "nice guys" on this site and especially on the Evo boards. People tend to forget that this phone is relatively new and has attracted many new people to the world of Android (like myself) who know nothing about anything.
OP: A few things you can do with root that nenn did not mention:
1) You can read/write from your SD card.
2) You can remove all the garbage that your phone came loaded with from Sprint and HTC (like Sprint Nascar and Peep).
3) With Titanium back-up, it allows you to transfer all user apps to the SD card keeping your phones internal memory clean, you can back up and restore all apps and system data, and you can use it to uninstall apps you don't want as mentioned in point #2.
4) Custom kernels also remove the 30 fps cap on our phones (I get 52 fps average with my set up).
5) You can use other root-only programs like ROM Manager which lets you flash files onto your phone easily via a custom recovery. Also, you can back up several ROM's and switch from one to the other, or go back to a previous working ROM if you flash something on your phone that doesn't sit well with it.
If everything that we have mentioned means nothing to you, then just enjoy your phone as it is. It is a great device and you can get plenty of use out if without rooting it.
*bow* thanks for the kind words rudegraw, its not a day from hell at work so im in a chipper mood for the most part, yesterday, i woulda ripped this yougin to shreads so i posted very little, lol.
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1) You can read/write from your SD card.
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eh? what do you mean? thats worded very oddly.
Thanx to the both of ya.. I do luv the phone the way it is and specially since yesterday I turned on the 4G and it actually came on, you can pretty much assume my excitement lol.. But I'll read up on the pros/cons of rooting before I make any decision as to root my Evo..
Thanx again..
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*bow* thanks for the kind words rudegraw, its not a day from hell at work so im in a chipper mood for the most part, yesterday, i woulda ripped this yougin to shreads so i posted very little, lol.
eh? what do you mean? thats worded very oddly.
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I'd rather not get into details about this on the thread. I worded it this way on purpose. PM me and I'd be more than happy to explain what I meant.
Rooting 2.2
I am rooting for the first time and I'm stuck now. I am in the section where you enter the commands into the cmd command box.
I just entered the ./rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin
and it says that it not found but when I entered it earlier it worke just fine, can anyone help me plz
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Round of applause for nenn. While I agree with your first few sentences, there aren't many "nice guys" on this site and especially on the Evo boards. People tend to forget that this phone is relatively new and has attracted many new people to the world of Android (like myself) who know nothing about anything.
OP: A few things you can do with root that nenn did not mention:
1) You can read/write from your SD card.
2) You can remove all the garbage that your phone came loaded with from Sprint and HTC (like Sprint Nascar and Peep).
3) With Titanium back-up, it allows you to transfer all user apps to the SD card keeping your phones internal memory clean, you can back up and restore all apps and system data, and you can use it to uninstall apps you don't want as mentioned in point #2.
4) Custom kernels also remove the 30 fps cap on our phones (I get 52 fps average with my set up).
5) You can use other root-only programs like ROM Manager which lets you flash files onto your phone easily via a custom recovery. Also, you can back up several ROM's and switch from one to the other, or go back to a previous working ROM if you flash something on your phone that doesn't sit well with it.
If everything that we have mentioned means nothing to you, then just enjoy your phone as it is. It is a great device and you can get plenty of use out if without rooting it.
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Recording at 720p, is it any better with 52 fps?
It seems like there's literally no internal storage. Does anyone know exactly how much it is? I have about 10 mb of email, 15 mb of Facebook data, 20 mb of contact storage, and about 5-6 applications installed that are over 1 mb, and somehow the little "Low Space" notification keeps popping up. I already uninstalled so many apps and right now I'm down to the essentials plus 2 games. It's annoying and I don't understand why the internal storage is so low that you can't even install more than 2 apps without it going crazy. My Hero never had this problem and I have 20-30 apps installed on there plus 3 email accounts and I never once saw the "Low Space" notification.
App2SD? Clear cache?
So, youre complaining about an issue that everyone on any Android has if they havent rooted?
Upgrade to Froyo
Move Apllication´s to SD
be happy
It's the biggest problem on all android phones. It's being fixed (if you have group 2.2 youll notice an improvement). But the best solution so far seems to be root. Read into it, and Google things like apps2sd.
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Problem is, at least in my case, most of the apps just don't support installing in SD, like Google maps, Adobe reader, Gmail or even YouTube apps. No use of being in Froyo then.
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Problem is, at least in my case, most of the apps just don't support installing in SD, like Google maps, Adobe reader, Gmail or even YouTube apps. No use of being in Froyo then.
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Then Root your phone and use apps2sd!
Make a 1 gig ext3 partition and you have lots of space!
Lets be honest, though. You shouldn't have to root to make your phone do something that should be standard on Android. Not everyone will want to invalidate their warranty
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Lets be honest, though. You shouldn't have to root to make your phone do something that should be standard on Android. Not everyone will want to invalidate their warranty
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Oh please, quit *****ing. Root process is reversible.
rpimps > bottom line : use the tools available.
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Oh please, quit *****ing. Root process is reversible.
rpimps > bottom line : use the tools available.
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Mate, stfu - I've rooted and know full well it's reversible. Was just stating that we shouldn't HAVE to do it, it should be standard. Apple managed to do it with the iPhone so why can't anyone else...you telling me that someone who's not that computer literate** should have to root their phone just to install some more apps??
**NOT saying the OP isn't computer literate, btw
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Mate, stfu - I've rooted and know full well it's reversible. Was just stating that we shouldn't HAVE to do it, it should be standard. Apple managed to do it with the iPhone so why can't anyone else...you telling me that someone who's not that computer literate** should have to root their phone just to install some more apps??
**NOT saying the OP isn't computer literate, btw
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No no, please don't give Apple credit, Iphone have loads more internal memory than any android device which relies on "external" SD storage. If iphones worked the same way, this limitation would be advertised as a freaking "feature"
Ok so we shouldn't HAVE to do it, but I fully understand Google taking time to think things out. Just plainly installing on the SDcard (i.e. copying apk packages) with no piracy preventing measures is not viable. The froyo way is already a nice step forward. If you want full control, well at least you DO get the opportunity to take full control of your phone through rooting and apps2sd.
Please don't compare to iphone which still doesn't even know what file browsing is
That's what I meant about the iPhone doing it, Apple got it right by cramming the iPhone with internal memory!!! HTC could've easily done the same
Agree with the 'feature' pun, though
Hm, even in my unrooted, old 2.1 days i had more than a few apps installed. 20 MB of Contacts?? How many do you have... a million?
Sorry, even without app2sd i had 30+ apps installed.
Btw, rooting is so easy... Right now i have about 50 apps installed and 105 MB free space.
Hey dude,
I wouldn't advise just rooting your phone on the spur, research it first...
Also upgrade to Froyo, then you get to trnsfer your apps, if thats not enough then download App2sd and if thats not enough then clear cache and if thats not enough delete some apps that you never really use.
Finally IF thats not enough, sell your phone and buy something else...
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Hm, even in my unrooted, old 2.1 days i had more than a few apps installed. 20 MB of Contacts?? How many do you have... a million?
Sorry, even without app2sd i had 30+ apps installed.
Btw, rooting is so easy... Right now i have about 50 apps installed and 105 MB free space.
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HTC's Quietly Brilliant Contacts management downloads your friend's Google pictures, Facebook pictures and Twitter pictures. Ta-da, magically lost memory.
kalfou said:
Hey dude,
I wouldn't advise just rooting your phone on the spur, research it first...
Also upgrade to Froyo, then you get to trnsfer your apps, if thats not enough then download App2sd and if thats not enough then clear cache and if thats not enough delete some apps that you never really use.
Finally IF thats not enough, sell your phone and buy something else...
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Totally agree that you shouldn't just root without understanding the whole process and what it means. I was troubleshooting two other users that nearly bricked their Desires by rooting improperly.
But back to the OP's comments, I was like him. I rooted because I was running out of space to install apps
same here i struggled with performance when my internal got full even with force 2 SD
i finally gave up and rooted my device, never looked back
a reminder: if you want to root and install a2sd make sure it's done with a full wipe
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It seems like there's literally no internal storage. Does anyone know exactly how much it is? I have about 10 mb of email, 15 mb of Facebook data, 20 mb of contact storage, and about 5-6 applications installed that are over 1 mb, and somehow the little "Low Space" notification keeps popping up. I already uninstalled so many apps and right now I'm down to the essentials plus 2 games. It's annoying and I don't understand why the internal storage is so low that you can't even install more than 2 apps without it going crazy. My Hero never had this problem and I have 20-30 apps installed on there plus 3 email accounts and I never once saw the "Low Space" notification.
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Still and always will be better than a iPhone so be happy
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The Desire is way better than the iPhone. Only thing that keeps people going back to iPhone - is cause they used to it - they don't know what they are missing. iPhone can't take SD card......iPhone SUCKS !!!!!!
Dya know what gets to me? Idiots that spend hundreds of pounds on a device without even researching the device specification, only to end up creating pointless threads, not because there is anything wrong with the device just because they didnt educate themselves about what they were about to buy, any google search will show the desire has a total rom of 500mb, knowing that the system, cache, radio and recovery partitions were going to take a sizeable chunk of that, i fully expected about 150mb of internal storage so i wasnt disapointed
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Rizla-xda said:
The Desire is way better than the iPhone. Only thing that keeps people going back to iPhone - is cause they used to it - they don't know what they are missing. iPhone can't take SD card......iPhone SUCKS !!!!!!
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Well that was a fail of a statement. It sucks because of no micro SD card...I'd rather have internal memory as it's quicker to access anyway. One reason why HD videos on the iPhone are so good. But in the end they are both phones nothing to argue over. Both have good and bad points it's all opinion.
I finally got the nerve up to root. Wow simple thanks to all the advice here at XDA.
Now, the question, and yes some what of a noob , but hey, I rooted, with no questions. LOL
I was under the impression that the Sprint bloatware, when removed with Titanium would free up storage (internal).
I have deleted , football, kindle and a couple others and have not seen any change.
And also what is safe to remove. I followed a link and it showed about 8 progs.
Thanks to all, I am a real good computer hacker. going back to the 90's, but for some reason get nervous doing the phones.
BTW love my EVO
had g-1 and nexus 1
It should show for internal however the apps you are removing might not be that big.
You can remove sprint TV, voicemail, football, nascar, (sense), radio, sprint app updater, Nova, Amazon mp3, stocks,all corresponding Widgets, basically everything sprint puts on the phone. One thing to remember is you need peep if you sync Facebook otherwise you will constant sync.
Thanks for the reply. How about you tube?
You could also flash a different ROM. I know from reading that there are close to stock ROMs that have all of the bloatware removed & even in some cases, Sense, but they're still Sense-based ROMs. I stuck with stock for a while, but finally switched to Cyanogenmod & was amazed at the amount of free ram compared to stock. I'm not sure about internal storage, but I don't move any apps to the SD (even though I could move all of them, minus widgets, if I wanted) and I have a ton of apps downloaded with ~250mb left in internal storage. I'm not sure how this compares to you, or if you'd want to change ROMs, but I suggest making that jump.
Edit: YouTube is safe to remove. You should, however, freeze them instead of uninstalling if you want to stay on stock & potentially accept an ota update in the future. If you've already removed some, then go ahead and remove them all.
Thanks, I plan I flashing in the near future. But damn, there are so many to choose from. It does seem CM is popular. Right now (one step at a time) just getting rid of bloat and duplicates.
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Thanks, I plan I flashing in the near future. But damn, there are so many to choose from. It does seem CM is popular. Right now (one step at a time) just getting rid of bloat and duplicates.
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I guess what I'm saying is, if you plan to flash anyway (at least in the near future), removing bloat is redundant. Custom ROMs don't have bloat installed anyway. I know it sounds like a daunting task, but with the right amount of general technological knowledge/experience you'll do just fine. I was nervous too but after my first flash, I switched recoveries (I prefer Amon Ra over CWM), flashed a custom font and a theme within a week.
Just be sure to make a backup, and if you don't like it or something goes wrong you can just switch back & you'll be right where you left off.
But if you're not ready or you don't want to, that's perfectly fine. If you need someone to guide you through it & help you with the step by step, feel free to pm me when you're ready. There are plenty of other members here that will do the same.
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Thanks, I plan I flashing in the near future. But damn, there are so many to choose from. It does seem CM is popular. Right now (one step at a time) just getting rid of bloat and duplicates.
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I was once a newbie, just to let you know out of all the roms. CM has been the best, super fast great battery life. and the best of all now it has 4G. Before it didnt however CM7 RC2 now supports it.
Flashing a new rom is super easy just reboot the phone into recovery, (holding down the power button and vol down button on boot) make sure you have your rom zip file on the SD and flash it. DONE reboot and enjoy.
You can backup your text messages but i dont because its just more stuff to reload on the phone
In other words JUST DO IT!! I've never looked back since i started to flash my phone. and i hope you dont either.
Ya like the guy said above , freeze the apps dont delete them. And as far as a rom goes i would recommend the Destroyed Gingerbread Rom.. it owns!!!
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It should show for internal however the apps you are removing might not be that big.
You can remove sprint TV, voicemail, football, nascar, (sense), radio, sprint app updater, Nova, Amazon mp3, stocks,all corresponding Widgets, basically everything sprint puts on the phone. One thing to remember is you need peep if you sync Facebook otherwise you will constant sync.
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This is news to me. Can you or someone elaborate on this? I removed Peep a long time ago and I haven't noticed any issues with Facebook.
Finally got the nerve, CM is on. Gotta go play, get back later with my experience of it.
Thanks for the encouragement to all, so simple. Ha ha
It doesn't matter quite as much now that you're on CM, but just FYI, deleting apps that came with the stock ROM (or any rom for that matter) usually doesn't give you more space to install other apps -- at least not directly. Your phone has different partitions. Apps you install go to /data. Apps that come with the rom are in /system. Deleting from /system doesn't give you any more in /data.
You will save a little space on /data because it won't store the dalvik cache of that app (at least it will if you remove it. I'm not sure if freezing keeps it from caching the dex).
So I've been living in a low-tech bubble and just got the OTA, tried searching for answers on why G-mail no longer syncs and why I get a false low space warning... didn't find anything too helpful in a hurry... Throwing myself at your mercy. TIA
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You mentioned it's a false warning. Are you sure that it is? The partition where your apps and associated data is stored is ludicrously small, 150MB, even though your app manager will show you all of your free internal space. When you go into manage apps and sort by size, what are your 5 largest apps and the space listed for them?
Do you store your contacts on your phone or do they live on Gmail?
Are you syncing FB contact information for you contacts as well?
The reason I ask: My g/f has a HTC Desire and had this issue 2 days after she had the phone, had 2 apps installed from the Market. WTF right?! Her contact storage was over 90 MB itself, which were phone contacts. I took the time to input all of those contacts she had into Gmail, and cleared contact storage. I also rooted her phone.
I disabled FB syncing for her contacts, as that was also contributing to ballooning storage for her contacts. Since doing this, she hasn't had this issue. That phone is plagued with that issue, but you may want to see what apps are taking up a ton of space, clear their caches like previously stated by "Haus".
EDIT: Gmail may not be syncing due to the low space warning, and you won't be able to send/receive texts either. Do have a ton of old texts that you save? You may want to delete some of those as well if you do.
My internal memory lists 500mb unused. I store everything possible on SD. Contacts via gmail. I do sync FB for the image avatars, but with the above mentioned space I can't see how that alone would cause the issue. All of this started after the OTA yesterday... Leads me to believe that there is an issue outside of my storage space, something tied to the update. Found random posts on other forums this AM where MANY others had same 2 issues resulting right after their OTA but most were from Sept. I figured these would be old news, with quick fixes by now... Anyone else seen this?
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My internal memory lists 500mb unused. I store everything possible on SD. Contacts via gmail. I do sync FB for the image avatars, but with the above mentioned space I can't see how that alone would cause the issue. All of this started after the OTA yesterday... Leads me to believe that there is an issue outside of my storage space, something tied to the update. Found random posts on other forums this AM where MANY others had same 2 issues resulting right after their OTA but most were from Sept. I figured these would be old news, with quick fixes by now... Anyone else seen this?
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Even though it lists 500 MB free, the DInc only has 150 MB total partitioned for apps (which is referring to the /data/data partition). When it gets close to that 150 MB, you'd get that warning.
Are you rooted?
There is a work around for this, but you'd have to be rooted running a ROM like Jermaine's Stock+, and there's a mod which increases the 150 MB /data/data partition to virtually unlimited. See here.
Unrooted (see post title)... so, the act of installing GB zapped up so much room that I am too close to the limit for my phone to function properly? Would GB install into the 150mb space for apps? As it's OS I'd think storage would be elsewhere? Also txting works fine atm.
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Some of the other posts I've found of users with same issues...
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=02216e9b3aed01ad&hl=en
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Unrooted (see post title)... so, the act of installing GB zapped up so much room that I am too close to the limit for my phone to function properly? Would GB install into the 150mb space for apps? As it's OS I'd think storage would be elsewhere? Also txting works fine atm.
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Sorry, my bad, I missed that in the title. What is the size of your Contact Storage?
Menu - Settings - Applications - Manage Applications - All tab at the top - scroll to Contacts Storage. It'll list the size underneath it.
Short of doing a factory reset to see if that fixes things, I'm not sure what to have you try since you are factory stock 2.3 other than contact VZW and/or HTC to see what they say. Since it wasn't happening before, and now it is, they'd either need to fix it or replace your phone.
EDIT: Also, what is the size say for com.htc.socialnetwork.provider?
EDIT 2: Menu - Settings - About phone - Software Information - Build Number, what are the numbers here? The latest OTA should have been 4.08.605.2.
So... I deleted date associated with FB and also ran the tip in the last post on the thread I linked to...
...He then had me dial a code (*#*#CHECKIN#*#*) and said if the update hadn't pushed in 72 hours to call them again. Guess I'll know by Sunday.
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Not sure if that had anything to do with it or not but somewhere along the line the space error went away and gmail starting syncing... I guess I am now just concerned with will happen again the next time I have an update of any kind to apps that can't be stored on SD.
grrr.... guess I'll be looking to jump the incredible ship when my upgrade comes through in a few months.
BTW... my contacts storage reads 14MB but not sure why/how as I have no contacts stored on phone.
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So... I deleted date associated with FB and also ran the tip in the last post on the thread I linked to...
Not sure if that had anything to do with it or not but somewhere along the line the space error went away and gmail starting syncing... I guess I am now just concerned with will happen again the next time I have an update of any kind to apps that can't be stored on SD.
grrr.... guess I'll be looking to jump the incredible ship when my upgrade comes through in a few months.
BTW... my contacts storage reads 14MB but not sure why/how as I have no contacts stored on phone.
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14 MB isn't too bad. If you have no contacts stored on your phone, you could clear that information, and Gmail will just re-sync it, so you wouldn't lose anything or delete contacts. I did see something in a post about going to an HTC link and downloading a "hotfix" file to install for this issue, but these were before this latest OTA that came out, and I couldn't find anything about anyone having success with it as far as this latest OTA is concerned.
I guess I should rephrase... I don't want to have any contacts stored purely on my phone... is there anyway to sort and see?
NM... found it... yeah, listed as 0. will delete. Thanks!
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Even though it lists 500 MB free, the DInc only has 150 MB total partitioned for apps (which is referring to the /data/data partition). When it gets close to that 150 MB, you'd get that warning.
Are you rooted?
There is a work around for this, but you'd have to be rooted running a ROM like Jermaine's Stock+, and there's a mod which increases the 150 MB /data/data partition to virtually unlimited. See here.
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I'd missed that mod, that is going to make my wife really happy. Glad you mentioned it.
"Haus" said:
I'd missed that mod, that is going to make my wife really happy. Glad you mentioned it.
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Yep, converts /data and /cache to ext4, which speeds things up as far as the file system goes. I'm just using the normal version of this mod, but I highly recommend it!
I guess I should also mention the other annoying issue... battery life is terrible after the OTA... anyone else?
a large portion of us on here have rooted our devices, and cured our phones of these ailments. No more limited data applications thanks to the Ext4 mod, and no terrible battery life thanks to custom kernels to help govern how the battery is utilized.
If you have the resources, I highly recommend rooting your incredible and installing a custom ROM
I just don't have the bandwidth in my life ATM to learn/do anything new... was just looking to see if anyone knew of a unrooted fix...
guess that is too much to hope for though
The unrooted fix is to uninstall applications and clear some caches.
Thats about it AFAIK other than wiping everything or rooting.
my wife has the incredible and up till now she wouldn't let me root her phone and now that she's on 2.3 she wants to root it and dive into the custom rom scene. i tried rooting it with unrEVOked but was unsuccessful even tried showing it a custom clockwork recovrey to flash however I still couldnt figure it out. Any "easy" way to root after going to 2.3
There's a thread, I think in Development about how to do it, looks involved but possible.
It's by Scotty1223.
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tcs.computergeek said:
my wife has the incredible and up till now she wouldn't let me root her phone and now that she's on 2.3 she wants to root it and dive into the custom rom scene. i tried rooting it with unrEVOked but was unsuccessful even tried showing it a custom clockwork recovrey to flash however I still couldnt figure it out. Any "easy" way to root after going to 2.3
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here you go tcs, it's found in the general section of the forum...
root 2.3.4,downgrade,and s-off
Hey guys I have two questions.
1. I would like to do a backup of my phone the same way I would do an image of my PC drive using an image software like Norton ghost or Acronis true image. Is this possible on android? I've been reading about Nandroid backup and I think this does what I want but the only way to do this with Nandroid is to root and install a new recovery correct? Am I not able to hook my phone up using the usb cable and use an app on the PC to clone the internal SD and create an image of it? I want to create an image of my phone with all its settings, contacts, txts, etc so i can have something to go back to if needed. I would like to do this before I root if possible.
2. On the Samsung Captivate section we have a wiki that has all the info you need to learn how to do certain things, mods, root, etc, etc. I found something similar for our Gnote2 here started by Mjwhirly http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987541 but I could not find a section of removing bloatware. I saw the link that was created by mrRobinson and he mentions using De-Bloater app that will do it for you with oneclick but is there a list of all the safe to remove apps that I can go through so I can decided which apps I want to keep and which I want to remove?
thanks in advance
Yeah you got it right - a nandroid is what you want. I'm a big time user of ghost - it's the same thing and works great. Root and install the TWRP recovery. Then first of all make a nandroid of your old system. If you want to go back to it all you'll have to do is unroot, change the recovery back, and use triangle away to reset the flash counter and you'll be where you are now - bone stock. You can't make a nandroid image backup until you root and change the recovery though.
On the second question I'd just recommend you install a rom. I use Cleanrom. It is already debloated for you (though you have still some choices), as well as optimized in ways that will amaze you (does 2+ days on battery sound good?). If you look at the various roms available, you'll see more people are using Cleanrom than any other - that should tell you something! Jedi is also great. Many of the AOSP type roms seem to have some minor issues, but the devs are trying to do a much harder thing than just debloat and optimize a rom that was originally released for your device. Whichever one you decide to try, best thing to do is just read the whole rom thread in advance if you have time. You'll read all the dumb questions that others have already asked as well as learn all the ins and outs of the whole process. If you want to then try a different rom, make a nandroid and you can always come back to your previous working system. Hope this helps and have fun!
hey thanks a lot Dumbo53
I guess i'll just have to go ahead and root and do a nandroid backup. I have actually owned a captivate since it first came out which was my first android phone and i have never installed a custom rom. I always did everything manually like debloat and stuff. Security wise how safe are these roms, I see a lot of people just running around and flashing any rom that gets posted. What I'm trying to get at is do we know what's inside of these roms or do we just rely on the honor system and assume that they're safe, like can I trust these roms if I do my banking on them, which i am scared to do ever since I saw a message from the keyboard app on my captivate prompt about capturing my keystrokes or something, basically like a key logger, so I never did try to log onto any sites involving my banking or work email etc. but now that I have my note2 I want to be able to do all that stuff, like emails, banking, accessing my site for maintenance etc etc just for the instant access part of it instead of booting up my laptop or desktop... But I guess I can say the same thing about the stock rom too.
Your banking info is much more likely to be stolen off of a corporate website that got hacked. Whenever you use a credit card to buy something from a company or store, your number passes through some unknown employee's hands and gets stored in another database. Since millions of these numbers are stored together under sometimes weak security, these sites make much more tempting targets than your phone for thieves. The numbers are then sold off in blocks of thousands on the internet. Does that worry you enough to stop using a credit card?
However it is true that there could be a risk in installing a rom, or indeed any software on your phone. If it were discovered that a dev was putting malware in their mods or roms, I'm sure it would create quite a stir! I've never heard of this happening, though I have heard of shady stuff being done with mobile apps that you buy. All I can suggest you do is just read a lot more so that it is easier to distinguish between real threats and imaginary ones, and to learn how to protect yourself. In any case financial institutions have to protect their customers from a lot of these types of fraud, or they'd have trouble staying in business.
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Sounds good. I'm just getting the chance to root and install TWRP been super busy with work so I haven't had the chance to do it. Now installing a recovery does not wipe data right? also on a different note I use both the play store and amazon app store. I have purchased a bunch of apps from amazon and most of them worked but there are a few that say my phone is not compatible. Like the need for speed games and asphalt games will not install from amazon. I haven't tried the same apps from play store but maybe I should. Oh one big one is autodesks sketchbook pro. I don't even see that option on the play store when searching using my phone but its there when i search on the pc. I purchased sketchbook mobile and that works but i needed the features that pro has so i purchased that through amazon again thinking that it would work. I thought this phone was basically a tablet, shouldn't these tablet apps work on our phones?