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Windows Phone Mango (7.5) for Defy/Defy+?

Was wondering, are people interested in a Mango port for the Defy/Defy+ phones?...
Just curious how many people are interested. Might try to learn all these porting stuff, just for the sake of having a different OS on my phone.

huh ? ? mango instead of icecream?

Not go too much into detail but as long as the bootloader for Defy is locked it's impossible to port another OS to Defy.

Yes. Mango instead of Ice Cream. It might sound nuts, but Mango is quite a stable OS plus its performance is better (heard some guys from the HD2 forum that, for example, HD2 with Mango has a better battery than HD2 with ICS.)
Also, it's a stable OS, you get only what apps you really need. It's not an OS for gaming, for example.
Just saying.

it's also propriety and closed.source, your chances of porting are 0.
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If possible ... Then yeah .. go go go!
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mpiekp said:
it's also propriety and closed.source, your chances of porting are 0.
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HTC HD2. 'Nuff said.

Deformat said:
HTC HD2. 'Nuff said.
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????? Hd2 was a windows phone that android was ported to, not the other way around.
It had a qualcomm chipset, there will be no windows driver for our defys, no source code to write drivers for.
I still say chances are 0
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Idea
I was reading about FUSE on linux, maybe is possible to create something like a VM, and then use WP 7.5 running on android... i'm just guessing, cause FUSE runs on linux, i think because the kernel MUST work on android, is possible to do something like that???

Emulating an os on such limited resources is a crazy idea, but may be doable, if our kernel supports it (unlikely) as we are still stuck with motos kernel.
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mpiekp said:
????? Hd2 was a windows phone that android was ported to, not the other way around.
It had a qualcomm chipset, there will be no windows driver for our defys, no source code to write drivers for.
I still say chances are 0
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HD2 is a Windows Mobile 6.5 phone. NOT upgradeable to Window Phone 7, which is a completly different OS
As far as I know all Android versions has been ported to the HD2, all Windows Phone 7 versions too. It is possible to run Linux (with GUI), MeeGoo and Windows 95.
So yeah, if Motorola ever unlocks the freaking Bootloader it might be possible to get a WP7 Port to our Defys.

Plzzz someone with adequate knowledge try this porting stufff out plzzzz.....

hemil said:
Plzzz someone with adequate knowledge try this porting stufff out plzzzz.....
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Isn't about knowledge. isn't possible because we can't change the android kernel because the locked bootloader, and WP doesn't run on a linux kernel, and on the other hand i agree with mpiekp, emulating isn't a good choice...

Zephyrot said:
HD2 is a Windows Mobile 6.5 phone. NOT upgradeable to Window Phone 7, which is a completly different OS
As far as I know all Android versions has been ported to the HD2, all Windows Phone 7 versions too. It is possible to run Linux (with GUI), MeeGoo and Windows 95.
So yeah, if Motorola ever unlocks the freaking Bootloader it might be possible to get a WP7 Port to our Defys.
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Yeah, wp7 is spoofed by pretending the hd2 is a hd7, only works for almost identical hardware, not for a different chipset. Find a wp7 rom from identical hardware then you stand a chance, once your passed the bootloader issue.
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The HD7 was essentially an HD2 with another badge.
You stand zero chance of doing this, even with an unlocked bootloader... I'm not aware of any OMAP based devices on WP7, I may be wrong there, but it's still pretty much impossible, given the fact you just have device specific binaries for WP7...

dude, this only make sense if mirosoft share their code

wp7 worked on hd2 because, a test rom was leaked where htc was working on wp7 using hd2 for their internal testing, hence got working drivers.
So basically we need a phone with similar specs as our phone so then we can see if the drivers work here. (Most wp7 phones use qualcomm chips so bad news there)
Even then i guess it would be hard task if not impossible to load windows on a locked bootloader which can only load a linux kernel

Even if we had an unlocked bootloader and drivers for WP7, there still would be an other issue: screen resolution. All WP7 devices have a 480x800 screen, and the Defy(+) has a 480x854 one, so the UI is incompatible.

Ubuntu phone OS on Desire

Hi guys!!! Happy New Year first!
I found something interesting. The devs from ubuntu are developing a new OS. It uses linux kernel and drivers for the specific device.Here are the requirements. I think i will run on our devices.
Watch the video.

niki1999kir said:
Hi guys!!! Happy New Year first!
I found something interesting. The devs from ubuntu are developing a new OS. It uses linux kernel and drivers for the specific device.Here are the requirements. I think i will run on our devices.
Watch the video.
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So great! Looking for an official release

It looks like the Desire is just at the minimum requirements for this, except that the Desire's Snapdragon system-on-chip is ARM Coretex A8 not the "required" A9.

I was under the impression it needs at least two cores, no?

Orangine said:
I was under the impression it needs at least two cores, no?
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You miss read it. Its not the mobile os that needs dual-core its the docking thing where it runs the full desktop.
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cool i'll wait for it

Thou were struggling to get the latest version of android.
People dream too much . Wake up and smell the coffee.
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well why not we have other choices for os on our phones ? i think it could be a new era on phones os and who knows even more ...

I think it will be awesome to choose our OS on the phone. This wil be perfect on phone that has no buttons - like galaxy nexus or nexus 4. The beta will be released in 3 or 4 weeks I think. I`ll try to port it but I'll need help
Edit: Read the official page. The beta for the nexus will be ready at 13 january ))

Yes we can hope that with both Ubuntu and Firefox OS will let us control our devices. The future of smartphone OS look bright :laugh: By the way I don't think canonical is planning to port ubuntu for old or low-range phones for now. Especially since they might encounter performance issues. The community might have to work hard to port it on devices like the HTC Desire

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I think it will be awesome to choose our OS on the phone. This wil be perfect on phone that has no buttons - like galaxy nexus or nexus 4. The beta will be released in 3 or 4 weeks I think. I`ll try to port it but I'll need help
Edit: Read the official page. The beta for the nexus will be ready at 13 january ))
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Good luck I hope it does eventually get ported to a usable fashion. Thou I am being realistic.
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Sadly by the time it's available to devs few people will have the phone so doubt it'll a developers time and effort. Never know though
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MChaotic said:
Sadly by the time it's available to devs few people will have the phone so doubt it'll a developers time and effort. Never know though
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It depends lets hope that we will have a version soon enough !!

Yes, lets get this to the Desire.
Or atleast an custom Android ROM with all the features and look.

i hope Ubuntu phone OS can run in htc desire....:laugh:

Vpabc said:
i hope Ubuntu phone OS can run in htc desire....:laugh:
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Anything news about this?
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me too !!
i hope Ubuntu OS and Firefox OS can run in HTC DESIRE .....

htc desire only single core
i think ubuntu os phone can't support for desire ....
desire just single core...:crying:

It looks to me that our processor may just fall under the requirements, also it says the device will require 4gb internal storage. That may be a problem, as long as the system files are less than 250mb it should be possible using some sort of reverse mount with sd card

interesting. But I also suppose that our three years old smartphone won't be "fast" enough for it

[INFO] Ubuntu Touch OS

It seems that developers are hard at work porting Ubuntu Touch to 20+ smartphones and tablets.
The Galaxy S series is included in that "list" although it's unclear if the U.S variants are included.
Keep on the look out for Ubuntu Touch coming to a Android device near you!
Source: Ubuntu Touch OS

Here is the devices in the works list if anyone is interested.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Work_in_progress

Art least with an international version in the works, it should be a easy port to the E4GT. Hopefully.

I'm really surprised no one has attempted this yet. Because I'm seeing CDMA phones running it.
My only guess is our kernel setup is what's stopping it.
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This would definitely be interesting, I'll have to look into this...

would like to see this happen, as i really want an alternative...even if its just to play with

ubuntu is a great operating system for a beginner

[Q][ROM][DEV] Ubuntu Touch 13.x for "Seranoltexx" phones?

Will a port of the Ubuntu 13.x Touch rom (Nexus/Ubuntu Edge) ever be in the future?
I mean are there any developers around willing to port it?
Ubuntu Touch seems really cool and fast with functions to use your phone as a full desktop pc.
I would really love to see this working on S4 Mini (hoping 1.5GB Ram is enough to run Ubuntu in first place)
I hope Acro68 will look at it after his CM project.

Ignore this post.
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Anybody? I would gladly help if somebody is willing to try this

Last time I checked project didn't have any usable build for the nexus devicea and all almost forgotten

"Android O - 8.0" PossIble for Zenfone 2?

Hello everyone, it is possible to receive custom ROM "Android O" for our Zenfone 2 ???

O was just announced, we're going to have to wait a little longer before we can know if it's possible, and a lot longer before it's actually built.

adobrakic said:
O was just announced, we're going to have to wait a little longer before we can know if it's possible, and a lot longer before it's actually built.
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It's a good thing you answered first. I would not have been as diplomatic. Lol
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Here comes ETA posts

Yes, it is posible but first need the sources and the sources are released after the official version is pushed to Nexus devices, maybe in October September will have and alpha version of Android O

Completely possible, thru custom ROMs
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mrichiem said:
Completely possible, thru custom ROMs
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I wouldn't say completely. Google is laying out minimum hardware requirements for stuff like audio, vr and ar which our old phone may not mean.
But do I have confidence that our devs will make everything else work? Yes, completely. Although it's gonna take a long time. I will be elated if N hits stable.

Since the question of this topic can't really be answered, someone knows how long statistically can a device be supported by custom roms? I mean maybe Android Z is too far fetched, but android P for example?

distant_thunder_89 said:
Since the question of this topic can't really be answered, someone knows how long statistically can a device be supported by custom roms? I mean maybe Android Z is too far fetched, but android P for example?
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Same answer as before, it all depends on hardware requirements
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Thanks all for different opinions and answers

blazzer12 said:
I wouldn't say completely. Google is laying out minimum hardware requirements for stuff like audio, vr and ar which our old phone may not mean.
But do I have confidence that our devs will make everything else work? Yes, completely. Although it's gonna take a long time. I will be elated if N hits stable.
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well my current daily driver is an AOKP 7.1.1 Nougat on my Zenfone Max ZC550KL with no bugs so we can hope the same for O when Lineage OS releases its own version.
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kenbo111 said:
Same answer as before, it all depends on hardware requirements
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Hardware is the least of our problems, considering the one in Zenfone 2 (ZE551ML for example) is more than adequate.
Google making up it's own hardware requirements is nothing more than pandering to the idea of planned obsolescence to be honest so that they can sell newest phones.
I think that if the devs can get their hands on viable drivers that support the hardware in our devices and are compatible with Android 8, then technically, it shouldn't be an issue.
For Oreo, google would be pushing certain updates (fixes, etc.) not as a standalone feature, but something that would work in the same way as Windows and MacOS system updates do within the same OS version.
We know Windows updates usually work on a variety of hardware if the Windows as an OS is the same... the only thing that you also need are drivers to properly support the hardware in question (which can be difficult if the hardware is ancient, but I doubt this would apply to Zenfone 2) - this especially applies to upgrading from say Windows 7 to Windows 10 for example as some features like a microphone might stop working if the hardware in question was say from 10 years ago. Works on say Windows 7 for example because Vista drivers were made for the hardware in question which were compatible with Windows 7 to a point, but for Windows 10, compatibility between drivers for older Windows was not maintained and new drivers need to be written.
So, large OS replacement would likely depend on hardware drivers support and updating the OS sequentially shouldn't be an issue if the drivers exist - if they don't... then it's a problem.
Manufacturers tend to stop supporting hardware after a certain time... OEM's are even worse.
If we can find drivers independently from a company that produced it, then it might be possible to find more recent drivers that work.
In case of GPU's (or any other hardware inside your PC), you wouldn't rely on the OEM for drivers. You'd go to AMD's or Nvidia's websites to download latest drivers.

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