I am on Boost which use Telstra's network and I understand that 850 will not work (No Next G) but all I seem to be getting on Stock/Custom ROMs is Edge. I am going to change my sim card today and might try another carrier just as a test. Anyone else from OZ???
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Hi there,
I'm totally confused as to what I need to do to get my Touch Pro 2 (currently activated on Boost CDMA) to work abroad, specifically Canada.
It is flashed with Energy ROM, Reference version.
Do I need to do a Radio flash? Do I need to tweak some settings? Both? Neither?
I'm going to be in Canada for 3 weeks and plan to use either Rogers or Fido's GSM Pay as You Go (already have the SIM cards), or Telus's CDMA Pay as You Go.
I've read the FAQs and generally understand that this is possible -- just not clear the route.
Thanks,
Simmy
The biggest problem with Canada is our carriers don't want people coming in and using their networks without paying for it, and that usually means your first born here.
The hardware problem is, the TP2 will not work on the frequencies in Canada that Telus has used for the HSPA / 4G network. And using the current CDMA network is not possible either because Telus and Bell will not allow you to put branded phones from other companies on the old network and CDMA systems don't use SIM cards. So if your planning on bringing the TP2 up here I think you may be out of luck.
I took the TP2 to Ireland and was able to use the frequencies there on the O2 network, but to do that I had to unlock the phone and as i have the "world edition" with the SIM card slot once unlocked it worked over there no issue, and returned working over here with no SIM card in it. But again this is a frequency issue and telus tells us it won't work.
Now if when you get here, and you plug a sim card in and it does work, please share, because it means we can manually add frequencies and hook to both the old and new network. And some of us with the original unlimited data contracts (no 10 gig cap) would be really happy to know this.
As for Rogers, i can't tell you. I don't know if they have ever had the TP2 and have no clue what frequency they are using for their phones, though i'm sure it's similar.
Flashing the radio does nothing to add radios or affect your ability to connect to the network while abroad. Its usually just done to improve reception and/or battery life.
You will need your phone SIM unlocked. Then, as the post above suggests, either putting in the SIM works, or it doesn't.
Thanks to both of you for your reply.
So the TP2 won't work on any Canadian CDMA networks, but since it also has GSM, if I stick a Rogers or Fido SIM card in it, it *may* work. In fact, I believe it *should* work. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
And thanks for answering my question re: radio ROMs, Redpoint -- that's what I thought, but was still confused about.
So, with respect to unlocking, is the Olipro page that charges 11 pounds / 14 euros / $20 my best/cheapest option? (unfortunately, i can't link to it here because I'm a new member)
Thank muchly,
Simmy
The device should have no trouble connecting to a normal GSM network in Canada. The Canadian GSM networks use the GSM-1900 and GSM-850 bands. The CDMA Rhodiums use a quad band frequency that spans all of 850/900/1800/1900 MHz channels. You should have no problems in Canada. Enjoy your trip.
You do not need to flash a new radio to have it work in Canada.
I have rooted and installed CM7 on my Defy. I bought an unlocked Defy from ebay after a google search revealed that it would work with ATT.
So far, I am only able to connect to the EDGE network and only make calls. I can't get text messages to work, but I can get about 40kbps when I run the speedtest app. Anyone have any insight? Thanks.
The Defy from T-Mobile is not compatiple with AT&T 3g bands. Also your texting problem is connected to your APN settings not being correct.
You are correct, sorry I meant to say that the 850 band is the only one reported working
Several other forums report that the 850 band works on ATT 3G.
a tmobile defy definitely works on att. I am on one right now.
did you check the band changer? since you're on edge you should be on the correct bands. maybe the person sold you a non tmobile defy?
also i've seen a 3g fix floating around but i'm not sure what it's for.
with my tmo defy that was unlocked i just popped in my sim and it worked. when i changed to cm7 i had to change the bands and then it worked.
It is a non t-mob defy.
Or at least I suspect this based on the European style plug.
Which baseband are you using?
i am using the americas us t-mo 3.4.2-107-4
Hi all
I just recently acquired a INC 2 Love the phone by the way and am located in INDIA
I'm running a r1 rom which offers full GSM functionality
SIM: TATA DOCOMO
The issue I have is
I can connect to GSM only Mode , but when I try GSM/UMTS or UMTS Only , the phone cannot cannect to a network.
The phone is SIM unlocked and in GSM only mode I can call/sms/data fine
My service provider uses the 2100 mhz band so obviously the INC 2 supports that, I have searched and lot and have tried various ROMS, but unable to narrow down a solution
i have tried the *#*#4636#*#* mode and even there only GSM ONLY works
NO GSM/UMTS , WCDMA or anything
Basically I cannot connect to 3G
Any suggestion guys
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Had the same problem, couldn't find a solution. Bump!
Have you try manually entering the APN (access point network) for your carrier? That might help.
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Have you try manually entering the APN (access point network) for your carrier? That might help.
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Yes I have, pretty much tried everything.
yes the APN is the same for both GSM and 3G
It just wont connect to a 3G network... only works on force 2G ie GSM
That is kind of weird. Does Tata only uses 2100 mhz? Maybe try updating the radios? Does the stock rom also not picking up 3G?
I'll be traveling to Hong Kong in 2 weeks and there uses 2100 as well. Let me see if I can get 3G and will let you know. It's hard for me to test UMTS on my DINC2 here in US coz I could only get EDGE from TMobile or AT&T.
All Indian networks use 2100 ... Yes it did not work on stock either ... I'm wondering if band unlocking is needed ..
I'm switching to Tmobil from AT&T.
ATT has been very helpful during this.
Here's my question.
What's going to happen to all the ATT crap on my unrooted stock phone? Will I be missing out on somethings because I'm not an original Tmobile customer and this phone was not theirs?
Any pitfalls I may face ?
Thanks.
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I'm switching to Tmobil from AT&T.
ATT has been very helpful during this.
Here's my question.
What's going to happen to all the ATT crap on my unrooted stock phone? Will I be missing out on somethings because I'm not an original Tmobile customer and this phone was not theirs?
Any pitfalls I may face ?
Thanks.
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All the AT&T stuff will be left on your phone. You will have to root to remove it. Also, you will only get updates (if there are any), when AT&T push them out to your device. However, if you wish to get any updates (there are rumours of 4.4 in Q2), then there isn't much point removing the AT&T stuff as it may just come back in the update. Also, being rooted and then updating can cause problems.
As for the T Mobile stuff, as long as the apps are in the google play store you will be able to get them. To check search on your computer, not on your phone as they will only show up on the phone with a T Mobile sim card, whilst they will show up on any computer. If you can't find them, you may able able to find the apk file's elsewhere.
Also, I would be careful, as the E980 may not be fully compatible with T Mobile's network. From some quick research I can see that the E980 will support T Mobile's 2G and 4G networks but may not support the 3G fully. The E980 is able to operate on 850, 1900 and 2100 mhz for 3G but T Mobile's network uses 850, 1700 and 1900 mhz for 3G. This means that in areas only covered by the 1700 mhz spectrum, you will not be able to get 3G. Unfortunately, I have no idea where these area's actually. T Mobile has said that they are moving more of their 3G from the 1700 mhz to 1900 mhz but you still may have a problem at some point.
Thank you for a rather good reply.
So a mate has a P2 and can't seem to get it to connect to 4G. The SIM card and network is Vodafone UK.
What I know/have tried:
- SIM in both sim slots will connect to 3.5G (HSDPA) on Vodafone network
- A different SIM (Three UK) did connect to 4G in the SIM slot 1 (did not try SIM slot 2)
- Settings says 4G preferred network is selected
- By typing *#*#4636#*#* into dialer and going to phone info displays LTE is selected as one of the preferred networks
- The same SIM (Vodafone UK one) connects to 4G in his old phone and has done in all his old phones
- APN settings are correct, verified by Vodafone support plus myself looking online
So he talked to Vodafone support again today who said try speed tests in 3 different locations and report back. He has done 1 which is 14mbps down and 3mbps up which is slow for 4G (I get 64mbps down and 24mbps up, different network but shows his is slow and likely not 4G). Similarly we we know the device can connect to 4G from using the Three UK SIM.
My gut instinct is it's a network issue, all device settings seem okay, nothing is screaming out of place. The issue though is that the SIM has connected to 4G in his other devices so confuses me.
So, I'd love your thoughts and inputs on this. Any suggestions welcome that may help! Thanks!
matt4321 said:
So a mate has a P2 and can't seem to get it to connect to 4G. The SIM card and network is Vodafone UK.
What I know/have tried:
- SIM in both sim slots will connect to 3.5G (HSDPA) on Vodafone network
- A different SIM (Three UK) did connect to 4G in the SIM slot 1 (did not try SIM slot 2)
- Settings says 4G preferred network is selected
- By typing *#*#4636#*#* into dialer and going to phone info displays LTE is selected as one of the preferred networks
- The same SIM (Vodafone UK one) connects to 4G in his old phone and has done in all his old phones
- APN settings are correct, verified by Vodafone support plus myself looking online
So he talked to Vodafone support again today who said try speed tests in 3 different locations and report back. He has done 1 which is 14mbps down and 3mbps up which is slow for 4G (I get 64mbps down and 24mbps up, different network but shows his is slow and likely not 4G). Similarly we we know the device can connect to 4G from using the Three UK SIM.
My gut instinct is it's a network issue, all device settings seem okay, nothing is screaming out of place. The issue though is that the SIM has connected to 4G in his other devices so confuses me.
So, I'd love your thoughts and inputs on this. Any suggestions welcome that may help! Thanks!
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I dont know the device or network specifically But I know that the device has to support the same lte bands that the carrier broadcasts in LTE in that area Just because the carrier broadcasts say 900mhtz in LTE, if the device dont support 900 in lte then it wont get it. I have had cases wher 3g is the same freq as 4g it still wont pick it up If you get what I am saying. May be a issue or not.
to further add he might take one of the old devices and use a signal catching app to see what lte bands are broadcasted in his area then compare to device
Thanks @TheMadScientist, all suggestions welcome still. I'm gunna continue to keep an eye on this, research answers and send him a link to this so he can test anything on the device.
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Thanks @TheMadScientist, all suggestions welcome still. I'm gunna continue to keep an eye on this, research answers and send him a link to this so he can test anything on the device.
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We get this issue a lot using sprint phones unlocked international gsm. A lot of carriers seem to not use the same lte bands.
Then naturly verizon devices come gsm unlocked but verizons radios are crap and do not pick anything up half the time. My veriz g5 can get lte next town over cause they use a supported band and no towers near me use it. So i get 3g. And a lot of h h+ i ise lte discovery as the app on mine.
Just hope this isnt his issue as its a harware compatibility .
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We get this issue a lot using sprint phones unlocked international gsm. A lot of carriers seem to not use the same lte bands.
Then naturly verizon devices come gsm unlocked but verizons radios are crap and do not pick anything up half the time. My veriz g5 can get lte next town over cause they use a supported band and no towers near me use it. So i get 3g. And a lot of h h+ i ise lte discovery as the app on mine.
Just hope this isnt his issue as its a harware compatibility .
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So I checked the network and the device (on GSM arena) and it seems 4G bands are supported. But I'll try that lte discovery app with him soon you mentioned and see what results that yields
@matt4321
http://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to...r-phone-is-supported-by-your-network-3597426/
You should check the manuals if there is support for 2600 frequency on phone.
Maybe the phone supports 800/1800(cos 3 is on 1800) and you don't have 800 band in area.
You will have to contact Lenovo and ask them to change baseband or whatever...
or Perhaps get a new phone with support for 2600
Had the same problem using a LG G3. I tried this App to trigger LTE only. Then the Phone connect to the LTE network.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tapbase.LTEswitcher&hl=de