There is a guy in my college who wants to sell his gs3. It is currently hot-lined. As in he still is in contract but the service has been shut off for non payment until payment is made.
So would it be possible to get this phone on another account in its as is state? He will not call in and cancel because he will not pay termination fees.
If I can't, how long does Sprint take to free the ESN from his account from non nonpayment by default?
Or do they automatically block that ESN forever until the bill is paid?
I'm pretty sure you cannot activate a phone that is active on another account that is past due. You'd have to call sprint to get more info on it though.
The esn is blocked for roughly 90 days. After that, it can be activated on another account. I have had personal experience with the same thing involving an Evo LTE.
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cj.lyon21 said:
The esn is blocked for roughly 90 days. After that, it can be activated on another account. I have had personal experience with the same thing involving an Evo LTE.
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Alright. I'm thinking about buying as he only wants $125.
But I thought the LTE was gsm on Sprint so wouldn't a new simcard just make the phone work?
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Alright. I'm thinking about buying as he only wants $125.
But I thought the LTE was gsm on Sprint so wouldn't a new simcard just make the phone work?
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dude sprint is cdma. there is no gsm on sprint. i still have my lte its cdma.
kaos420 said:
dude sprint is cdma. there is no gsm on sprint. i still have my lte its cdma.
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There is gsm. The iPhone 5 for sprint is gsm and takes Sim. Without the Sim it picks up no signal at all. I am aware that sprint is CDMA. But their new LTE devices take Sim cards.
That's really irrelevant, the galaxy s3 on Sprint does not have a sim card.
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There is gsm. The iPhone 5 for sprint is gsm and takes Sim. Without the Sim it picks up no signal at all. I am aware that sprint is CDMA. But their new LTE devices take Sim cards.
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you should really do your research before you talk. the iphone for sprint is a CDMA device. it is a world phone which means it also can do gsm. but as the old touch pro which was also a world phone. the gsm side is locked to the carrier issuing the device. while back then you could hack and unlock the gsm side to work with any slip in sim. it is now illegal in the united states. google it. sprint is not and never will be gsm. bottom line. you can use their sim side over seas to pony off of gsm networks. but your bill in the end comes a cdma carrier who has a agreement with a gsm provider to provide you service.
proof is in the pudding
http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...ne-5-a1429-cdma-lte-sprint-verizon-specs.html
now all this is irrelevant to the question you asked. so the answer remains no.
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Finally
Check this: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...ss-touch-pro2-to-land-september-11th-for-199/
Finally..verizon tp2 is not crippled
Engadget has a leaked internal memo confirming this as well.
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/09/04/htc-touch-pro2-graces-verizon-on-september-11/
This brings me back to the question, does anyone know if it will at all be possible to unlock this for use on US AT&T 3G?
So it will be $489.99 without contract right??
CraZyLiLbOy said:
So it will be $489.99 without contract right??
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According to that leaked memo, yeah.
Anyone know if its possible to unlock for US AT&T 3G? I'd pay $500 in a heartbeat for no contract, an actual number row, green (I'm a green whore), for once not crippled by Verizon version...
nothing personally to any of you, but I've had Verizon, and i'd rather have a a GSM network that I can swap Sim's on, and switch phones when I like.
The Cdma network, has great coverage and clarity, but I'd rather have the freedom of what phone do I want today
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nothing personally to any of you, but I've had Verizon, and i'd rather have a a GSM network that I can swap Sim's on, and switch phones when I like.
The Cdma network, has great coverage and clarity, but I'd rather have the freedom of what phone do I want today
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Is there a phone better than the tp2? No then there is no need to swap!
I'm surprised more people haven't responded to this. As a long time Verizon customer, this announcement MADE MY DAY!
I called the Verizon 800-number and was told that it is indeed releasing on the 11th... can't wait! I'm going to use my NE2 $50 off and hopefully get some kind of retention discount since I'm out of contract... $149 after rebate minus whatever I can finangle , will be a nice upgrade from my XV6800/HTC Titan.
Does anyone think they will allow for preorders or will it be a grab for it on the day it launches?
Yep - the VZN TP2 is very much on my radar. I have been very happy with my current Moto A4500 (Q9 Napoleon) running WM 6.1 Standard, but looking forward to a touch screen interface. Actually, one of the nice things about VZN is that I can toggle between devices via the dial up "device programming app:" *228 option 3.
John
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Is there a phone better than the tp2? No then there is no need to swap!
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Traveling internationally with a cdma phone can sometimes be tough.
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Traveling internationally with a cdma phone can sometimes be tough.
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CDMA Touch Pro 2 also has SIM slot and should work on GSM networks so you can swap whatever SIM card you want in the CDMA TP2.
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CDMA Touch Pro 2 also has SIM slot and should work on GSM networks so you can swap whatever SIM card you want in the CDMA TP2.
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Get outta here thats awsome.
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CDMA Touch Pro 2 also has SIM slot and should work on GSM networks so you can swap whatever SIM card you want in the CDMA TP2.
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I don't think it'll work on domestic GSM networks though, just overseas. I have an Ozone with Verizon and it came with a Verizon/Vodaphone SIM installed, but when I try to access AT&T's network here it can't.
Edit-According to Phonescoop, it's not approved by the FCC to access domestic GSM, even though it can do 1900 and 850. I imagine the same will be true of the TP2.
I was told that the phone would be available for online ordering only on Sept 11th. I was so disappointed as I was planning to open up at the store to get the 1st one!
Has anyone else heard this?
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Is there a phone better than the tp2? No then there is no need to swap!
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I don't know about CDMA phones but, there are plenty of GSM phones better ACER m900, acer DX900, etc...
and Its not even a matter of being better, sometimes, when I go to work and I know its gonna be a hands on day, I don't want the phone banging around, I'll switch to a older motorla
am about to buy an epic 4g with a bad ESN want to know if i can activate the phone in a diferent country? it is posible?
I believe cdma networks only works in the us.
Adam
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am about to buy an epic 4g with a bad ESN want to know if i can activate the phone in a diferent country? it is posible?
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As long as its with another carrier and not Sprint. Also as stated above, you will have little to no luck with an overseas company running on a CDMA network as the U.S. is the only main place where that is used. The rest of the world mainly runs on GSM networks, so unless you are lucky and can find a carrier that runs on a CDMA network overseas, then your looking at either using that phone as "wifi only" with no service, or roaming off some towers (again if ur lucky) with some hefty costs. It would be best to look for a GSM phone IMO if ur planning to use it I another country
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Some newer phones I believe are being made with sim card slots so that they can be used with cdma and GSM but those would be higher end phones. Even still you would have to unlock said phone then start service with the carrier of choice and hope that they don't have a ban on world phones. I had a blackberry storm on T-Mobile like that and they banned my phone the day after I sold it to some poor kid and bought my evo lol.
Adam
I want to know if this is possible at all, does anyone know of any ways to put a verizon phone on sprints network? I think it has been done before, I will buy this phone if I can get 3g to work on sprint
Nope, VZW and Sprint operate at 2 different frequencies AND if you could somehow do it I don't think Sprint allows Third Party/Unlocked Phones.
actually they are teh same frequencies. how else would our roaming on verizon's network work?
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actually they are teh same frequencies. how else would our roaming on verizon's network work?
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Yea I actually think you are right because verizon and sprint share a tower here in Virginia. But sprint would never allow it.
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I've been told different things by different reps at different Sprint locations. One guy in-store told me that it's "very possible" but that the customer has to do all the unlocking, etc. Another rep at one of their call centers reiterated the same. "If you unlock it, we can do it. Otherwise, there's nothing we can do."
So the question remains, how can we unlock it? I'd LOVE to stay with Sprint. Does anyone have expertise in this area? I've seen a few threads on this and they all seem to go unanswered...wondering if it's not a popular topic or if it's something we shouldn't be discussing?
Thanks!
Run around clockwise half naked below freezing while chanting "goosfrabah"...
Seriously no need to be posting such a thread. It's been posted and debated and talked about. Google and such should be your friend.
Either make googley eyes (and maybe much "more") at someone deep inside Sprint to add a VZW ESN to their database, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, or murk in the underworlds of ESN cloning and modification, NOT HAPPENING HERE on XDA...
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No, the ESNs are in a computer database. If the rep enters an incorrect ESN or, in this case from their point of view invalid, the system will not move forward.
Even if that wasn't the case, I don't believe Verizon and Sprint operate on the same CDMA frequencies. Not to mention LTE. EVEN if that wasn't the case, the Galaxy Nexus pulls its subscriber information(like the phone number, data plan, etc) from its SIM card(just like GSM phones).
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Possible, YES. Depends only on if sprint want to activate it or not. Phones generally support the entire spectrum and not just the subset that carrier uses.
For example on GSM, phones either support ALL of the 900 spectrum or none of it. The fact that the spectrum is split in two and used by different operators doesn't make a difference - thats just handled by the simlock/Activation of ESN.
It wouldn't make much sense for a hardware manufacturer to cripple a radio baseband to part of the spectrum if it can handle all of it, otherwise they would need to make new mainboards for each operator.
LTE is a different situation. As the spectrum is not split, and each operator use an entirely different spectrum. It would be more costly to add other spectrums on a Verizon device with no real benefit, if they have no plans to offer it on any other operator. Also it may be more cost or design effective to make two different boards if for example they can't fit an antenna that can handle both frequencies.
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Posting from another thread.
No, the ESNs are in a computer database. If the rep enters an incorrect ESN or, in this case from their point of view invalid, the system will not move forward.
Even if that wasn't the case, I don't believe Verizon and Sprint operate on the same CDMA frequencies. Not to mention LTE. EVEN if that wasn't the case, the Galaxy Nexus pulls its subscriber information(like the phone number, data plan, etc) from its SIM card(just like GSM phones).
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VZW and Sprint operate on the same CDMA frequencies, 1x CDMA 2000 and 3G. How else do Sprint and VZW roam off each other for voice and data? When it comes to 4G, that's where they differ, LTE vs WiMax (for now). Even when Sprint goes LTE, they'll be running on a different LTE frequency than VZW and AT&T, so LTE roaming shouldn't be on anyone's radar for the foreseeable future.
And NO, the VZW GNex does not pull "its subscriber information (like the phone number, data plan, etc) from its SIM card(just like GSM phones)." Subscriber info is pulled from the ESN/MEID unique to any CDMA phone (VZW and Sprint included) to authenticate on the network. The SIM in VZW LTE phones is for LTE purposes ONLY, 4G data only and nothing else.
Why dont you get the galaxy s II? Wish I could get it for Verizon
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VZW and Sprint operate on the same CDMA frequencies, 1x CDMA 2000 and 3G. How else do Sprint and VZW roam off each other for voice and data? When it comes to 4G, that's where they differ, LTE vs WiMax (for now). Even when Sprint goes LTE, they'll be running on a different LTE frequency than VZW and AT&T, so LTE roaming shouldn't be on anyone's radar for the foreseeable future.
And NO, the VZW GNex does not pull "its subscriber information (like the phone number, data plan, etc) from its SIM card(just like GSM phones)." Subscriber info is pulled from the ESN/MEID unique to any CDMA phone (VZW and Sprint included) to authenticate on the network. The SIM in VZW LTE phones is for LTE purposes ONLY, 4G data only and nothing else.
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Thanks for the clarification on the frequencies thing. I wasnt 100% sure what Sprint operated on.
As for the SIM, I am 100% sure. Trade SIM cards with a friend, even to another microSIM device like a Samsung Stratosphere Restart your phone and then call eachother. The numbers will be swapped. Heck, even easier. Yank your SIM out and make a test call or check under the About Phone options.
EDIT: I know that Sprint uses CDMA(1x) and EVDO(3G). But what bands do they operate on? Just like AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM(aka edge) and HSPA(3G) but on different bands so not all their phones are entirely cross compatible.
EDIT2: Found my own answer. VZW operates on 850mhz, and 1900mhz. Sprint is 800mhz and 1900mhz. So you may in theory use a 3G Verizon phone on Sprints network with limited capability. I'd imagine it would be just like if you put an ATT iPhone on T-Mobile and be able to make calls but only get 2G.
Regardless of the frequencies you still have the ESN lockout as well as the SIM card issue.
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Sprint not going to activate the phone no matter what you do.
CDMA carriers have the last say so of what goes on their network and what does not. They chose what you use not you. They base the their phones off of the ESN/MEIDs if those do not match up to a "clean" one in their system then no go. Its their way of forcing contracts, "if you have to get a sprint phone may as well get the contract with it." they thing. GSM on the other hand you can do it because the identification of the carrier is on the SIM card rather then the phone. However, some carriers will "flash" a phone over like Criket or metro pcs (however they can brick the phone and then you can't even do anything with it.)
MetroPCS lets you bring in any CDMA phone and activate it on their network. I'm sure sprint could do the same if they wanted to.
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MetroPCS lets you bring in any CDMA phone and activate it on their network. I'm sure sprint could do the same if they wanted to.
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Emphasis on "IF THEY WANTED TO." If past behavior is indicative of the future then reason says they don't.
Lets assume Sprint suddenly changes its mind after years of hemorrhaging customers and move beyond that, as I've previously said the Galaxy Nexus(and all 4G LTE phones) behave more like GSM phones than CDMA and pull their subscriber information from the SIM card. Don't believe me? Try to use your VZW Galaxy Nexus without your SIM. Mine didn't work. Further my theortical point about the supported bands still stand. Who wants a Galaxy Nexus on 1X data?
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I thought that Sprint was going to offer the Gnex at some point. Was I just dreaming that? Does anyone know if Sprint is going to get the GN?
I could have sworn I heard that Sprint was getting it somewhere....
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Emphasis on "IF THEY WANTED TO." If past behavior is indicative of the future then reason says they don't.
Lets assume Sprint suddenly changes its mind after years of hemorrhaging customers and move beyond that, as I've previously said the Galaxy Nexus(and all 4G LTE phones) behave more like GSM phones than CDMA and pull their subscriber information from the SIM card. Don't believe me? Try to use your VZW Galaxy Nexus without your SIM. Mine didn't work. Further my theortical point about the supported bands still stand. Who wants a Galaxy Nexus on 1X data?
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The reason your LTE VZW phone will not work without the SIM has nothing to do with pulling subscriber info but more to do with just authenticating with the LTE network, period.
Once again, your subscriber info is more hard coded to your ESN/MEID.
The LTE network could go down (like it has done now several times) and your phone will work fine with CDMA voice and 2G/3G. If the CDMA network goes down then you're screwed because all authentication starts there.
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Why dont you get the galaxy s II? Wish I could get it for Verizon
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That.
+1 char
LordLugard said:
The reason your LTE VZW phone will not work without the SIM has nothing to do with pulling subscriber info but more to do with just authenticating with the LTE network, period.
Once again, your subscriber info is more hard coded to your ESN/MEID.
The LTE network could go down (like it has done now several times) and your phone will work fine with CDMA voice and 2G/3G. If the CDMA network goes down then you're screwed because all authentication starts there.
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I'd love to hear your explaination for the following behaviors. The only thing I changed was I took out my SIM card. You'll notice now even the time is wrong since the phones sync their time with the carrier.
EDIT: removed pictures because I'm paranoid/OCD about personal info.
You can post as many pics as you want. Your "subscriber info" is tied to your esn/meid in the system. Without those, whether you have an LTE sim or not on a CDMA network like VZW, your phone will not function. The LTE sim doesn't handle voice or any calling functions, just data.
When your phone connects to a cell tower (or the network), certain parameters are sent for a sort of handshake, which are your esn/meid.
I think you need to better familiarize yourself with the fact that VZW is a CDMA network first and foremost (and with all that entails, esn/meid/msid etc) with an LTE based data-only network (for now) built alongside it.
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Hi There,
Just came back from Tokyo Japan today. I noticed that my T-Mobile US SIM with my GNEX GT-I9250 doesn't work in Japan. I checked that Japan uses UMTS=2100MHz, which is covered by the GNEX. Why would roaming not work? Anybody has similar experience? Could it be SIM issue, since I had the same SIM for around 4 or more years now...?
Any input is much appreciated. I will need to get it up & running asap, as I probably will need to take another trip soon...
Thanks in advance!
Well it depends if there is a roaming agreement between T-Mobile and whatever carrier you're trying to use... and there may be issues because the T-Mobile SIM is provisioned to use 1700/2100 AWS, not 2100 specifically. The SIM probably isn't set up to roam properly if I had to guess.
But really, you don't want to roam. The prices are astronomical. You saved yourself a lot of money not roaming. Just buy a local SIM/hotspot when you get there, or contact T-Mobile about their international data plans (and ask how they handle the SIM incompatibility).
IF its not TMobile prepaid you got to call TMobile and let them know your leaving the US so they activate the International Roaming.....
I went to Tokyo last year and I had no issues making called or sending texts. But my raining charges were ridiculous. My gf calling me all the time ran my bill up to $800.00. -_-
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Thanks guys for the inputs.
best1923: I am on monthly plan, and did call ahead to T-Mo and let them know I was going to Japan. I recalled they even responded "Have a pleasant trip to Japan." So I doubt it is that. Appreciate nonetheless.
martonikaj and foxehkins: I would buy a local sim too if I do make a lot of local calls. Problem is, I don't. ppl know me by my US number, and I'm there only for short period of time. So doesn't make sense for me to get a local sim. Since foxehkins confirms that roaming does work (@ the expense of $800+), guess I'll find out from T-Mo store if it could be the sim that's causing the issue.
Thanks.
According to the guy at the Verizon store, who I plan to upgrade to in November when my contract is up due to T-Mobiles terrible service, seems to think that since it is a SIM phone, and Verizon's new network phones (4G / XLTE) use a SIM card, that I can unlock my TMO phone and it will be able to then be assigned a new IMEI so that I can use it on a Verizon network...
Think this is true and if so, how do I do this? I don't know that I want to upgrade phones... I love my N2 and will only upgrade if there is a Note 4 out by then...
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According to the guy at the Verizon store, who I plan to upgrade to in November when my contract is up due to T-Mobiles terrible service, seems to think that since it is a SIM phone, and Verizon's new network phones (4G / XLTE) use a SIM card, that I can unlock my TMO phone and it will be able to then be assigned a new IMEI so that I can use it on a Verizon network...
Think this is true and if so, how do I do this? I don't know that I want to upgrade phones... I love my N2 and will only upgrade if there is a Note 4 out by then...
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As far as i know, Verizon uses a hybrid cdma/lte network. Voice is still handled through the cdma2000 antennae and network, whereas data (in lte coveted areas) by lte anrennae and network. If this holds true, shoving a Verizon SIM into a tmous phone will only give you data in lte covered areas. Assuming the sgh-t889 has the right band requirements to function on Verizons network.
In a nutshel: it is a very very long shot. Either way, you're guaranteed not to be able to make phonecalls.
Unfortunately, i have no sources to present you. This is just gleamed knowledge aqwired from countless hours of googletubing.
It is extremely possible the cdma functionality is just switched off, and could be jtagged. But that's way over my head.
I wouldn't bet on it. Even with VoLTE I doubt it would work all that well on LTE. Then if you are in a non LTE area you are SOL.
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