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Memory manager, task killer, stock app control?

I've been using auto memory manager for a long time and before that advanced task killer. Are these kind of apps even need in froyo?
My only 2 concerns are battery life and performance. Is the stock app manager good enuff?
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ctbenk said:
I've been using auto memory manager for a long time and before that advanced task killer. Are these kind of apps even need in froyo?
My only 2 concerns are battery life and performance. Is the stock app manager good enuff?
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For the longest time I did the same thing then I started heating that it was not good so on tried it with out and I can not tell a diffrence rather way in performance or battery life. So I decided to leave out off for the space even though it's not much
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In my experiments I saw the battery life to be worse when using task killers with Froyo. I dont even mess with the open apps on my phone anymore.. This is because android is designed to keeps apps in the process tree so that they open faster.. However the "open apps" take up little to no memory. What I do mess with however is the Running Services. To get here go to Setting/application/ runnings services.
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Holy memory leak Batman!!

My phone had been running pretty great for 14 days now without incident (in the past I was getting reboots) but then a few days ago I started getting more and more frequent launcher restarts. I checked running apps and memory was at 120MB. I restarted and with the same exact apps/services running I had 322MB. So the question becomes where the hell did the 200MB go? Seems like a memory leak to me but have no clue what could have caused it. An update can't come soon enough for this otherwise fantastic phone.
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just the way it is. I experience the same thing and i show around 130 mb of free ram all the time. I just let the phone do its thing though. I'll reboot once every 2 weeks or so. I dont think your free ram level is abnormal, i see it all the time. Yes a reboot increases it to 300 mb. But it shortly goes back down. I would ignore it.
I will notice that when i get down to around 100 mb free, i'll just go about my browsing or whatever and half hour later it corrected itself showing 190 mb free, all identical apps still running.
Its the mystery of linus. Ram is shared in ways that make it extremely difficult to tally free ram. Thats why i just ignore it. And yes i get launcher closes, along with overly aggressive task killing by the OS. I personally think its a bug google may fix.

mobilehavoc said:
My phone had been running pretty great for 14 days now without incident (in the past I was getting reboots) but then a few days ago I started getting more and more frequent launcher restarts. I checked running apps and memory was at 120MB. I restarted and with the same exact apps/services running I had 322MB. So the question becomes where the hell did the 200MB go? Seems like a memory leak to me but have no clue what could have caused it. An update can't come soon enough for this otherwise fantastic phone.
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Galaxy Nexus keeps apps in memory, it never has 'a lot of free memory' if it has been running for a while. It clears memory when an application needs it and that's it. There's no 'memory leak' of that sort in Android, but there might be something off with one of those applications that might end up hijacking so much memory.
As for launcher restarts, this has never happened to me and I'm thinking that some application, that you have running, causes this.

kristovaher said:
Galaxy Nexus keeps apps in memory, it never has 'a lot of free memory' if it has been running for a while. It clears memory when an application needs it and that's it. There's no 'memory leak' of that sort in Android, but there might be something off with one of those applications that might end up hijacking so much memory.
As for launcher restarts, this has never happened to me and I'm thinking that some application, that you have running, causes this.
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I don't care how much memory is free. I just can't stand the launcher restarts which are directly related to low memory because the system has to dump the launcher process from ram to make space for other processes. I've seen it on many phones. Apart from the launcher restarts the phone is fine.
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mobilehavoc said:
I don't care how much memory is free. I just can't stand the launcher restarts which are directly related to low memory because the system has to dump the launcher process from ram to make space for other processes. I've seen it on many phones. Apart from the launcher restarts the phone is fine.
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what launcher are you using?
i don't think is normal that ur launcher restarts...maybe some crap app cause it

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what launcher are you using?
i don't think is normal that ur launcher restarts...maybe some crap app cause it
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I'm using Nova right now but it happens with Stock launcher too. Its definitely some app that's causing it but I have no idea what it could be.
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mobilehavoc said:
I'm using Nova right now but it happens with Stock launcher too. Its definitely some app that's causing it but I have no idea what it could be.
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Well without reboot most I've had my phone up is 6 days. My free memory was just over 300MB so I'd almost think it's some app you are running too because why am I not seeing any leak? Are you running Nova Prime or just the freebie?

We have had a similar thread before. OP in there was amazed that some of us had 300+mb free and he had 120. Turns out it android 4.0.1 was the culprit. Are you still stock or 4.0.1?
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killyouridols said:
We have had a similar thread before. OP in there was amazed that some of us had 300+mb free and he had 120. Turns out it android 4.0.1 was the culprit. Are you still stock or 4.0.1?
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I'm on 4.0.2 stock. My guess is .3 and later fix the issue but I'm too lazy to wipe the phone and flash a rom. I'll have to wait, it just sucks that the update is taking so long to push
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In the world of real operating systems, free memory is wasted memory. Why bother releasing memory if there's nothing to replace it with?

If you are low on memory it's a good thing in Android, because that means that many apps are pre loaded in the RAM so they can start quicker.
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Everyone is forgetting that he's getting launcher closes, which i get as well.

RogerPodacter said:
Everyone is forgetting that he's getting launcher closes, which i get as well.
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Thank you. There's a definite memory leak. Its been a day of hard use after reboot but my memory is still at times 300mb free or more. Before I rebooted it never got higher than 120. I'm hoping the app that caused it has been fixed with all the recent updates.
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Right now I have anywhere between 60MB and 100MB of RAM free and zero launcher redraws. So your phone being 'low' on ram isn't what your problem is.
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times_infinity said:
Right now I have anywhere between 60MB and 100MB of RAM free and zero launcher redraws. So your phone being 'low' on ram isn't what your problem is.
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What are you using to see free memory? Its reported differently in different places. Go to settings Apps and Running. What does it say there? I have 300MB but it shows 100 or less in many apps. The number in the place I told you to look is how much memory is usable for user programs since it removes the kernel and running services. THIS number for me was 120MB which means all apps only had 120MB to run that weren't services. So what does yours say?
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From settings > apps > running now I have between 100 and 150.
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From settings > apps > running now I have between 100 and 150.
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wow. And no launcher restarts? That's interesting? What rom are you on? I'm stock 4.0.2.
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The memory is a red herring. If your launcher is restarting frequently there's something going on, but memory may not be a part of it. Perhaps it's a misplaced pointer reference or a widget that's causing the launcher to reload to resync or maybe it really is a memory problem. Either way, focusing on the memory probably won't get you any closer to the root of the issue but uninstalling suspect apps or widgets may.

mobilehavoc said:
wow. And no launcher restarts? That's interesting? What rom are you on? I'm stock 4.0.2.
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AOKP. usually if I restart I get one or two launcher redraws. But that's about it.
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times_infinity said:
AOKP. usually if I restart I get one or two launcher redraws. But that's about it.
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Yeah I think this is a 4.0.2 issue for sure. I'm hoping a new release will help.
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Q How to Get More Ram

Hi,
i used to to have s2, and in that cell can free upto 550MB RAM, but in one x can't seem to get more then 300MB RAM, with same amount of applications, how i can get more ram? very few programs are running in the background and they are same as in s2
thx

if you are rooted try the supercharger v6 script, it is very useful and on the highest memory kill settings you can get up to 500mb free even more but it depends on how many apps you have installed. it kills lag and cannot possibly cause any bootlooping problems and such.

ryanjsoo said:
if you are rooted try the supercharger v6 script, it is very useful and on the highest memory kill settings you can get up to 500mb free even more but it depends on how many apps you have installed. it kills lag and cannot possibly cause any bootlooping problems and such.
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Ryan, have you tried the supercharge script yourself already? It's just whenever I try and flash the .zip in recovery my notification bar dissappears. Did this happen to you?

Free ram is wasted ram
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bailie1912 said:
Free ram is wasted ram
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Agreed!!

It seemed as if I had better battery usage when my phone was supercharged though. Not as good multitasking but slightly better core performance and battery.
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but low ram means slow multi-tasking and more battery drain

kami2k said:
but low ram means slow multi-tasking and more battery drain
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You have a mod called "supercharged" or "supercharger" in the rom developement section ... Download it, instal in CWM and youll get it
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[Q] Not Enough RAM !!!

Hi , my Cousin bought Samsung Galaxy W a few days ago.
Already in his first hours with the new device he noticed that there are too much lags and bugs.
The Galaxy W has 512mb ram !
He ask if there is a solution for this problem and maybe he can add more memory (RAM)
Thank you !

Not possible.
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Does Custom Rom can fix the lags problem ?

yuval.r said:
Does Custom Rom can fix the lags problem ?
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Yes
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skrillex13 said:
Yes
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tank you !!

hi, actually you can expand the ram using swap. but you have to flash to cow kernel first, cause it got swap function. try this software RAM EXPANDER
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.swapit.expander.de&hl=EN_US
but there is disadvantage. if you wanna use your device as usb mass storage, first you need to un-swap first then restart the phone. otherwise you pc cant recognise the memory card.

What kind of bug can you get using a stock rom? Especially when you bought it like a few days ago.
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Before i was thinking that i will return my GT-i8150 but now i am succes with this app
Download and Install Auto Killer Memory Booster (Here it is) and see screenshots
I just enable EXTREME preset, all time i have minimum 150mb of free RAM.
Hi Thanks after done
AutoKiller Memory Optimizer is not a regular task manager, it is an award winner minfree tweaker, it fine tunes android systems inner memory manager to keep your device fast over time. As a side effect it also lowers battery consumption. Also includes a manual process/service manager.
ROOT REQUIRED to set minfree values, unrooted devices will not have this feature
if you have questions or you face errors please check home page or write a mail
for more details see home page
Pro Features:
no ads
Chuck Norris mode enabled
apply kernel tweaks on boot
alternate preset (while screen is off)
all widgets
quick restart
memory reclaim
Please be careful, apps with very similar look and name are distributed, they can be malicious.

[Q]Is there an app or script that will clear RAM when screen goes off?

Looking for an app or script that will clear ram automatically when screen goes off. Thank you
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Advanced task killer pro does that. If you're rooted, you can use greenify which pretty much does the same thing but hibernates the app as well.
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No need to do that honestly.
You'll only use up more battery clearing out the ram every time.
Android does a really good god in ram management.
Greenify is a good alternative.
It doesn't clear them off ram but it hibernates apps from running in the background that would also consume battery.

jayRokk said:
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Greenify is a good alternative.
It doesn't clear them off ram but it hibernates apps from running in the background that would also consume battery.
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If it's not running then it's not using ram...
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Domoo said:
If it's not running then it's not using ram...
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Yes it is... Unless you close it completely. Random Access Memory is that.... Places apps apps in memory to later take them out to run, which makes it a faster process rather than closing them completely and opening them again.
Greenify "hibernates" and app as in it won't run, notifications checks, automatically running, check ins or refreshing feeds to save battery, its still in ram but its not running, saving lots of battery.
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