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To Unlock or not to Unlock. That is the question

Guys i am torn. One minute i want to unlock through HTC dev website but on the other hand i want to wait for the S-OFF exploit. Not just that, wondering if i unlock will i still be able to get OTA updates still? I know i will do from what i read but few more confirmations would probably ease my mind.
Had a year my galaxy s2 and was lucky enough that the s2 was already unlocked. Not a stranger to rooting but coming over to the HTC One x and reading on instructions on how to root kinda gets me worried.
What do you think guys? Development i am sure will be picking up but do you think it is worth to unlock through the dev site and if so why please.
Many thanks.

The OneX is really easy to root and the nvidia tegra tweak is well worth it

The One X honestly isn't that hard to root.
Just need to unlock the bootloader - then install recovery and then obviously flash a rooted ROM.
Great instructions from bagofcrap24 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592355
The best thing for me after rooting was getting rid of the three dot menu button that takes up screen space on some apps. Using LeeDroid's ROM, I now have the Recent Apps button mapped to Menu and long pressing Home mapped to Recent Apps.

gifton1 said:
The One X honestly isn't that hard to root.
Just need to unlock the bootloader - then install recovery and then obviously flash a rooted ROM.
Great instructions from bagofcrap24 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592355
The best thing for me after rooting was getting rid of the three dot menu button that takes up screen space on some apps. Using LeeDroid's ROM, I now have the Recent Apps button mapped to Menu and long pressing Home mapped to Recent Apps.
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i know mate...it is really a question of when to do it...i mean i do not get as to why they do not come unlocked already though...what is the big deal of them locking the bootloader..that is one of the things that made me go for the s2 over the sensation. cause it was so easy to root through odin. might do it today and unlock and root

Waiting for our great developers to unlock it.
Not a fan of the whole warranty thing via the official HTC unlock tool...

Foggy79 said:
Waiting for our great developers to unlock it.
Not a fan of the whole warranty thing via the official HTC unlock tool...
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see that is the problem that is holding me back Foggy mate. some people say it does not void your warranty some say it does. The actual website says it does void your warranty...Kinda confusing if you ask me. I mean i had my s2 for a whole year before i sold it and it never died on me. But i am really not willing to take the risk with the HOX just yet.

NoobTerminator said:
see that is the problem that is holding me back Foggy mate. some people say it does not void your warranty some say it does. The actual website says it does void your warranty...Kinda confusing if you ask me. I mean i had my s2 for a whole year before i sold it and it never died on me. But i am really not willing to take the risk with the HOX just yet.
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To be fair it says
"It is our responsibility to caution you that not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty."
I think there's def the emphasis on "resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader"
So if yo have a warranty issue that isn't affected by unlocking the bootloader you should be fine.

Foggy79 said:
Waiting for our great developers to unlock it.
Not a fan of the whole warranty thing via the official HTC unlock tool...
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+1

animaleyes76 said:
So if yo have a warranty issue that isn't affected by unlocking the bootloader you should be fine.
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And who will decide if your problem comes or doesn't come from unlocking and doing stuff on it?
Thats my point, it's just to easy for a repair center to say "yup that is possibly caused by unlocking and moddifying your device".
It voids your warranty if they decide to do so, if they even slightly suspect the unlock/modding has anything to do with the failure.
It's your word against theirs...
Like I said, not in a hurry, the Devs will get it unlocked anyway, just a matter of time, and that way I don't have to worry about warranty.

Foggy79 said:
And who will decide if your problem comes or doesn't come from unlocking and doing stuff on it?
Thats my point, it's just to easy for a repair center to say "yup that is possibly caused by unlocking and moddifying your device".
It voids your warranty if they decide to do so, if they even slightly suspect the unlock/modding has anything to do with the failure.
It's your word against theirs...
Like I said, not in a hurry, the Devs will get it unlocked anyway, just a matter of time, and that way I don't have to worry about warranty.
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spot on with that mate. hence why i opened this thread cause you do not know what might be said hence why this is the only bad thing about the HOX that it does not come with an unlock bootloader

anyone had any news on how far through they are with unlocking the bootloader. I really want to get the battery fix installed but am also a little weary about the warranty thing. I got a feeling that if they know your bootloaders been unlocked theyll end up blaming that for the failure even if it wasnt due to it. Saying that my other tab has the htcdev site open so im currently back and fore about using the htcdev site.

NoobTerminator said:
spot on with that mate. hence why i opened this thread cause you do not know what might be said hence why this is the only bad thing about the HOX that it does not come with an unlock bootloader
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Kinda understand why they want to lock it, and offer an unlock with certain warranty issues..
They need to cover themselves ofcourse, otherwise everyone with a bricked device (due to their own fault mostly) is sending back their device for a free repair
I'm happy they left backdoors (official and possible non-official) to unlock the bootloader, think if they want they could have just closed up everything to have it never unlocked again
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Appsdroid said:
anyone had any news on how far through they are with unlocking the bootloader. I really want to get the battery fix installed but am also a little weary about the warranty thing. I got a feeling that if they know your bootloaders been unlocked theyll end up blaming that for the failure even if it wasnt due to it. Saying that my other tab has the htcdev site open so im currently back and fore about using the htcdev site.
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If you can use your device without any major issues i'dd wait a bit. The device is only 2 weeks out and i'm sure ppl are on to it, we need to give them some time, no need to rush things.

Foggy79 said:
Kinda understand why they want to lock it, and offer an unlock with certain warranty issues..
They need to cover themselves ofcourse, otherwise everyone with a bricked device (due to their own fault mostly) is sending back their device for a free repair
I'm happy they left backdoors (official and possible non-official) to unlock the bootloader, think if they want they could have just closed up everything to have it never unlocked again
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true true. and yeah we kinda forget sometimes that this phone has only been out two weeks now. i love it specially i got my replacement and is grey or shall i say Gun Grey Metallic.. love saying that. And probs best to wait for the exploit. Kiinda similar to the chainfire app he has for the s2 now. thanks mate and stock anyway is running well for now...but i am getting itches to flash..so many sexy roms out there

I really want to root so I can lock Sense in memory but I am going to hold off until the screen banding issue is resolved. I am confident it will be fixed by an OTA but if it isn't I don't want to create any excuse not to honour the warranty.
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Chartist said:
I really want to root so I can lock Sense in memory but I am going to hold off until the screen banding issue is resolved. I am confident it will be fixed by an OTA but if it isn't I don't want to create any excuse not to honour the warranty.
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i want to root as well mate to get rid of all the bloatware. i mean even disabling stuff does not really give me confidence enough that some of the services are frozen and take up memory..anyway i can still can be patient and wait..love this phone

Guys, if you think your device so far got no hardware issues, It's time to unlock. Getting rid of the annoying menu button alone is a big reason enough to unlock.
Been switching ROMs already for a couple of days and it's fun, the excitement is high lol. Anyway, there is still no custom kernels yet for overclocking so you don't need to worry of frying your CPU. Customization and theming won't hurt your hardware.
So there, go for it, UNLOCK!
Btw, don't flame for my advice lol.
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Rycon33 said:
Guys, if you think your device so far got no hardware issues, It's time to unlock. Getting rid of the annoying menu button alone is a big reason enough to unlock.
Been switching ROMs already for a couple of days and it's fun, the excitement is high lol. Anyway, there is still no custom kernels yet for overclocking so you don't need to worry of frying your CPU. Customization and theming won't hurt your hardware.
So there, go for it, UNLOCK!
Btw, don't flame for my advice lol.
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might hold off for a little while longer. hopefully we shall see some AOKP roms

I would say unlock, your warranty will still cover hardware issues and well software issues, you can fix them yourself

NoobTerminator said:
might hold off for a little while longer. hopefully we shall see some AOKP roms
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I see your predicament! it is a tough one.
Would love to see AOKP as well. Watched an interview with Roman tho and he didnt seem too interested in the One x for some reason and said there were no current plans to develop for it. Although, even if they dont support the One X officially, it will hopefully get ported at some point.

gifton1 said:
I see your predicament! it is a tough one.
Would love to see AOKP as well. Watched an interview with Roman tho and he didnt seem too interested in the One x for some reason and said there were no current plans to develop for it. Although, even if they dont support the One X officially, it will hopefully get ported at some point.
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well we could only hope..i will be honest i kinda have a slight regret selling my s2 as the development for that handset is smoking hot at the moment. but regarding my HOX i am kinda itching to unlock but on the other hand voices tell me to wait for a few more days..i know development will be huge for this phone as it is the flagship. but there are few niggly things that are starting to annoy me and that might push me towards unlocking through HTC dev site
i mean stock as it is at the moment i am more than happy with..but like any phone this has some minor issues but hoping that the update we are waiting for will sort this for me

[Q] To root or not to root that is the Question

I am seriously agonizing over whether or not to root my HOX, I have had a desire and rooted and flashed it to within an inch of its life and never had an issue, and its still going strong and running Shaky153's new ICS Sense rom.
My only concern is that I am unsure whether the HOX is as technically or physically robust as the Desire, and I keep getting the impression that it could breakdown at anytime, I'm not too bothered about physical damage as the phone is insured, but if it has to be returned to HTC I'm F*!£^%.
Please someone help me make this decision, should I root, if so why?
If not why?

Its totally up to you mate, but I will say that I had my HOX rooted a couple hours after purchasing it! And I love it!!

your decision mate...or wait for S-OFF..if you have a solid handset and no defects or issues with software then i would unlock it as by rooting this bad boy is the whole point of getting this phone. just do not forget about the bad stuff like voiding warranty though there is a couple of threads regarding this issue in the general section have a read through before unlocking...
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I am seriously agonizing over whether or not to root my HOX, I have had a desire and rooted and flashed it to within an inch of its life and never had an issue, and its still going strong and running Shaky153's new ICS Sense rom.
My only concern is that I am unsure whether the HOX is as technically or physically robust as the Desire, and I keep getting the impression that it could breakdown at anytime, I'm not too bothered about physical damage as the phone is insured, but if it has to be returned to HTC I'm F*!£^%.
Please someone help me make this decision, should I root, if so why?
If not why?
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I would wait for s-off. I'm not going to fiddle with mine until that is achieved. In the meantime, my desire will handle my flash addiction .

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If not why?
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You do know that it voids warranty, right ??
If you just got it, then wait at least a week, test everything properly and make sure there aren't any hardware faults/manufacturing defects.

I have always rooted my devices after few hours of purchases. Except this one x. I actually cant wait to try custom roms and use root apps like i always do but sense 4 is beautiful and enough to keep me away from modifying it. So i think, i can wait for s-off. Plus, hearing the defects here and there, it would actually worth it to wait. I only have this device for 5 days so nothing to be rushed.
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I would
It's totally up to you but I would root just for some root apps (completely remove system apps, etc.). You should always be able to unroot.

cronus101 said:
will handle my flash addiction .
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I'm starting to have withdrawals.....lol. My head is just going... I need to flash, I need to flash, and it's really getting hard not to be tempted and wait for S-OFF.

I wasn't planning to root but I'm tempted to now just for the sake of 2 things, the 3dot menu remover patch and the font changer.
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iximages said:
Its totally up to you mate, but I will say that I had my HOX rooted a couple hours after purchasing it! And I love it!!
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hahaha. same here. I'm still new to the flashing rom even using android phones (Coming from iOS) and yet i took the risk of rooting it and applying custom roms. ARHD is the best!!!

HTC One V Dead

So I bought my gf a one v and she loves it. One month after using it (stock, unrooted) it just went dead. Doesn't charge and doesn't get into bootloader (but not the QHSUSB_DLOAD and Blank Screen issue). Guy at repair told me that this was an issue with the ICS kernel causing a hard brick. Now, I naturally sent phone for repair since it is a warranty case. So far so good, lets just hope they get it done fast.
My question is though: should I root device and flash another ROM with presumably no such issues so I can avoid a future brick? I mean, I'm using a rooted desire and have no issues for over 2 years, now just didn't want to mess with the new phone of my gf and thought 'hey, lets keep it stock'... But the thought that it would die again after having it repaired is really discouraging. My gf is kind of frustraded and I don't want this to happen again. But are there such issues with custom ROMs for the One V? Like I said, I'm using the good old desire and don't know much about the one v, so I would really apreciate if you can tell me - because if such an issue is possible on custom roms, there is no point to bother flashing and voiding warranty.
Thanks for your time guys!

Well at the moment we have only modified stock ROM for this device and one custom kernel (in beta state) which is still an ICS kernel.
However you''ll never know whether this happens again or not. But one thing you can know for sure is that if you unlock the bootloader and install a custom kernel and ROM and it happens again then your are screwed because you lost your warranty.
Maybe you should wait a bit for some stable custom rom. Because an unstable and buggy ROM would make your gf even more frustrated and andgry

Oh well, thanks for the insight my friend..So, If I got this right, if I root and flash one of the current roms and it bricks again, I will still not be able to acces bootloader? And is this really a kernel issue with ICS? I'm willing to even flash a GB rom, if it is possible, in order to avoid this...gf won't mind for sure lol, if this delivers a stable phone in the future
P.S. Does this even happen with other ICS roms/on other stock ICS devices? Or did HTC just screw up on this one? I can understand a phone bricking when changing hboots or other tinkering, but just dieing like that is pretty damn stupid. And from what I read it happens to quite a few other one v users...Hope noone of you guys gets to experience this crap

falconyx said:
Oh well, thanks for the insight my friend..So, If I got this right, if I root and flash one of the current roms and it bricks again, I will still not be able to acces bootloader? And is this really a kernel issue with ICS? I'm willing to even flash a GB rom, if it is possible, in order to avoid this...gf won't mind for sure lol, if this delivers a stable phone in the future
P.S. Does this even happen with other ICS roms/on other stock ICS devices? Or did HTC just screw up on this one? I can understand a phone bricking when changing hboots or other tinkering, but just dieing like that is pretty damn stupid. And from what I read it happens to quite a few other one v users...Hope noone of you guys gets to experience this crap
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1. In no other galaxy, no other planet... IT IS NOT A KERNEL FAULT! it may at well be a piece of poorly made phone. you should get another one from the warranty. I can 100% say that you will not have any problems. The kernel doesn't suddenly causes hard brick to your phone. If it does, do you know how many phones running ICS are there? Or One V's...
I have flashed alpha/beta/final kernels/roms for millions of times, no problems whatsoever.
in no way this is a kernel/soft problem. more likely the flash drive from your gf's phone, died!

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1. In no other galaxy, no other planet... IT IS NOT A KERNEL FAULT! it may at well be a piece of poorly made phone. you should get another one from the warranty. I can 100% say that you will not have any problems. The kernel doesn't suddenly causes hard brick to your phone. If it does, do you know how many phones running ICS are there? Or One V's...
I have flashed alpha/beta/final kernels/roms for millions of times, no problems whatsoever.
in no way this is a kernel/soft problem. more likely the flash drive from your gf's phone, died!
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Thx dude, I was sort of wondering how this could really be a kernel problem, since the guy over at the repair told me so - 'Its a kernel issue with ICS'... well, I hope he was really wrong and the device we receive (hopefully soon) will be proper

falconyx said:
Thx dude, I was sort of wondering how this could really be a kernel problem, since the guy over at the repair told me so - 'Its a kernel issue with ICS'... well, I hope he was really wrong and the device we receive (hopefully soon) will be proper
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That guy should really make his homework. In no way a kernel can brick the phone. If this was true, the phone will not boot and work for weeks in the first place. Its not like the kernel has a "time-bomb" inside and it triggers when it is set.
As I said, it is a phone problem, something hardware has failed.
Hopefully it will be fixed for you gf and she will not have any problems in the future.

It happens in India too
My htc one v got bricked suddenly while using it. Forums at internet says it happens if battery charge goes below certain limit. Mine it went down to 24%

It happened to me when my battery level was 14%. now I have to pay 200$ for repairs. (because I live in Iran.)

HTC ONE V dead
falconyx said:
Oh well, thanks for the insight my friend..So, If I got this right, if I root and flash one of the current roms and it bricks again, I will still not be able to acces bootloader? And is this really a kernel issue with ICS? I'm willing to even flash a GB rom, if it is possible, in order to avoid this...gf won't mind for sure lol, if this delivers a stable phone in the future
P.S. Does this even happen with other ICS roms/on other stock ICS devices? Or did HTC just screw up on this one? I can understand a phone bricking when changing hboots or other tinkering, but just dieing like that is pretty damn stupid. And from what I read it happens to quite a few other one v users...Hope noone of you guys gets to experience this crap
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Hi My HTC one V just died , I didn't know how it was happened . 10 minutes before I made I call and just after sometime It stopped working .
Even it is not charging at all, mobile is out of warranty. don't really know what to do ..
Any suggestion would be appreciated .
Regards
Manoj

[Q] [POLL] Is it worth to root at the expense of loosing warranty?

I am thinking of installing custom rom on my phone for last few days. I know there is no S-off yet. So, i will be loosing my warranty after using HTCDev.com. Overall i am okay with stock rom, except overheating and wi-fi issues. You think any of the current rom will solve any of these issues and still be stable.
Is it worth to root now OR wait for S-off?
Are current custom ROMS for the HOX good enough for me to root and lose my warranty?

I voted YES! Why not?

trongnghia2411 said:
I voted YES! Why not?
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lol, cuz you probably lose your warranty ?

Is it worth to root at the expense of loosing warranty?
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The question you have to ask yourself, is do you want to take that risk?
you're potentially giving up a fully tested operating system and a safe guard against any potential hardware related problems down the track, for something that could be better / worse / same
That said, the warranty "MAY" be voided, doesn't mean it WILL (obviously it depends on alot of variables). You may not have any problems down the track, or the battery could superheat and melt through the phone casing

mcintoan said:
The question you have to ask yourself, is do you want to take that risk?
you're potentially giving up a fully tested operating system and a safe guard against any potential hardware related problems down the track, for something that could be better / worse / same
That said, the warranty "MAY" be voided, doesn't mean it WILL (obviously it depends on alot of variables). You may not have any problems down the track, or the battery could superheat and melt through the phone casing
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I unlocked. I rooted. Phone is now in repairs due to creaking and basically my whole phone was messed up. Phone was send with stock firmware and not locked. And they are still fixing it at no cost. So all under warranty. And will be rooting once I get it since my phone is unlocked
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mcintoan said:
The question you have to ask yourself, is do you want to take that risk?
you're potentially giving up a fully tested operating system and a safe guard against any potential hardware related problems down the track, for something that could be better / worse / same
That said, the warranty "MAY" be voided, doesn't mean it WILL (obviously it depends on alot of variables). You may not have any problems down the track, or the battery could superheat and melt through the phone casing
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Thats exactly my question in the first place. I would take a risk, no problem. But is it worth? I mean to ask, whether custom roms are that much better in terms of performance and solving issues such as overheating and wifi that i should root now and not wait for S-off?
Many Thanks for your responses.

veerm said:
Thats exactly my question in the first place. I would take a risk, no problem. But is it worth? I mean to ask, whether custom roms are that much better in terms of performance and solving issues such as overheating and wifi that i should root now and not wait for S-off?
Many Thanks for your responses.
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if you are worried about bloatware then you can disable the ones you do not want from settings-apps. that way bloatware gets disabled and phone runs more smoother..but if you are a flashsaholic then i still feel it deserves to root..but it is all about what you are after really and what you are use to

It would be easier for people to vote if your question was phrased as:
"Are current custom ROMS for the HOX good enough for me to root and lose my warranty?"

Its worth loosing your warranty, it will take still more months to s-off and even more and there may be chance for 1 year too. any way you are going to loose your warranty in one year.
Just loose your virginity and flash custom rom , it is fun to have custom rom in hox and it will show you some better performance.
and the recommended rom is charmeleon rom.
Did i say virginity , sorry warranty!

I heard its possible to unroot device, so you can get back your warranty.

Goku80 said:
I unlocked. I rooted. Phone is now in repairs due to creaking and basically my whole phone was messed up. Phone was send with stock firmware and not locked. And they are still fixing it at no cost. So all under warranty. And will be rooting once I get it since my phone is unlocked
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Actually real question for me is whether it is WORTH rooting for the custom roms available? Are custom roms that much better than stock in terms of performance as well as ironing out bugs such as overheating and wi-fi?
I do understand that HTC will probably honor the warranty (if needed), in case the cause is not root related.
Many Thanks...

junialum said:
It would be easier for people to vote if your question was phrased as:
"Are current custom ROMS for the HOX good enough for me to root and lose my warranty?"
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Thanks for suggestion, will edit my post...

veerm said:
Actually real question for me is whether it is WORTH rooting for the custom roms available? Are custom roms that much better than stock in terms of performance as well as ironing out bugs such as overheating and wi-fi?
I do understand that HTC will probably honor the warranty (if needed), in case the cause is not root related.
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Honest answer then yes. Worth rooting just for the performance as well and for custom kernels. current state of the kernels is messed up. Franco kernel has been cleaned up and reworked from source and well it is a beast of a kernel. i will say this again. my phone was unlocked and rooted. it is currently in repairs due to some manufacturers errors. it is all being covered by warranty and no mention that my phone is unlocked. so. only way to lose the warranty is if you overclock and the motherboard gets fried then yes the warranty is voided. but if you have like a screen that has came off or gap on either side and you still have your phone unlocked you are covered as it was not caused by any third party software.

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Honest answer then yes. Worth rooting just for the performance as well and for custom kernels. current state of the kernels is messed up. Franco kernel has been cleaned up and reworked from source and well it is a beast of a kernel. i will say this again. my phone was unlocked and rooted. it is currently in repairs due to some manufacturers errors. it is all being covered by warranty and no mention that my phone is unlocked. so. only way to lose the warranty is if you overclock and the motherboard gets fried then yes the warranty is voided. but if you have like a screen that has came off or gap on either side and you still have your phone unlocked you are covered as it was not caused by any third party software.
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Goku80 said:
if you are worried about bloatware then you can disable the ones you do not want from settings-apps. that way bloatware gets disabled and phone runs more smoother..but if you are a flashsaholic then i still feel it deserves to root..but it is all about what you are after really and what you are use to
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I am not a big flashaholic. At least not yet
I am interested in custom roms mainly to see if it fixes overheating and poor wifi issues. Better performance could be bonus. So my question is narrowed down to (as we probe further), is there a rom i can install which will fix overheating and wifi while keeping it stable?
this is been very helpful, really appreciate it.

Serge.C said:
I heard its possible to unroot device, so you can get back your warranty.
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AFAIK, you can unroot it but it will say "Relocked" not "Lock". In other words HTC will know that you have rooted it at least once even if you are on the stock rom at that moment

I just returned my phone to Expansys for an exchange and it was unlocked.

Goku80 said:
Honest answer then yes. Worth rooting just for the performance as well and for custom kernels. current state of the kernels is messed up. Franco kernel has been cleaned up and reworked from source and well it is a beast of a kernel.
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Does it get hot on that kernel? I havent rooted because ive been thinking of sending this thing back for an exchange cause it keeps getting to 45 deg just when browsing 52-54deg when on 5min gaming. Since it seems like 8/10 HOX have the same issue either i root and get a rom that fixes it, or just send this back for a refund with seller.
PS: Not to mention i the left side of screen does pop out a bit i have to keep bending it in. but i can live with that for a while then just replace, but i cant live with a HOT Phone!!!!

droidpr said:
Does it get hot on that kernel? I havent rooted because ive been thinking of sending this thing back for an exchange cause it keeps getting to 45 deg just when browsing 52-54deg when on 5min gaming. Since it seems like 8/10 HOX have the same issue either i root and get a rom that fixes it, or just send this back for a refund with seller.
PS: Not to mention i the left side of screen does pop out a bit i have to keep bending it in. but i can live with that for a while then just replace, but i cant live with a HOT Phone!!!!
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Return it my friend. Or speak to them to find out why the phone is like that. And no my phone never gets hot. Kernel is just fine.
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Goku80 said:
Return it my friend. Or speak to them to find out why the phone is like that. And no my phone never gets hot. Kernel is just fine.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
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+1 for sending it back. Screen flex can't be caused by a custom Rom so they should fix/replace no problem
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Not worth it.
Unless HTC confirm on HTCDEV that unlocking the bootloader will in no way void the warranty, I will not do it.
For me to do it, they need to specify in clear English that this act alone will not void warranty.
I can understand software faults due to custom roms, bricked devices or CPU GPU issues due to overclocking, but unlocking a bootloader alone shouldn't void it, nor should the use of a custom rom.
Alot of people will want to do it just to get superuser to use rooted apps & will want to keep using official HTC OS - it annoys me that this alone would void warranty.
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My Note II on 4.1.2 Experienced SDS

I just wanted to let you all know that even on 4.1.2 (stock and stock recovery), your note can just all of a sudden die. For no reason. I had stock malaysia ROM 4.1.2 that was released in April I believe. It was rooted, but all I used that for was Titanium Backup.
My usage of the phone was bare minimum, all I really use the phone is for Google Talk. That's actually all I was doing when all of a sudden the screen froze and the phone would not respond to any buttons or touches. Once I removed the battery it never started again. I can't get it to boot normally, or download mode or anything.
I'm in the US and i bought this off eBay back in November or something of last year, so I have no idea what to do now except get another phone.

Yes its the chipset in the phone that has a bug which can kill the phone. Alot of the note2 phones have it including mine. There is an app on market that can tell you if you got the chip in your phone but by now you already know that. Try a phone repair shop or if you want surf around the net and see if you can find a motherboard for a decent price then you could change it your self.
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The newer roms have a software fix for the hardware bug. Dont remember if that fix is in the rom it self or in the kernel but if you had the latest custom rom on your phone then it might not have died.
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I was on 4.1.2 with stock rom and kernel combination. As far as everyone seems to say on this site, that is what you need to do to try to avoid SDS. In either case, my suggestion to everyone here is to just get another phone before yours dies as well.

ksc6000 said:
I was on 4.1.2 with stock rom and kernel combination. As far as everyone seems to say on this site, that is what you need to do to try to avoid SDS. In either case, my suggestion to everyone here is to just get another phone before yours dies as well.
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My N7105 died also, simply would not boot, not even into download/recovery mode at all, no red led. Tried switching batteries, charging, pressing buttons for 30secs, etc; no response.
It was running 4.1.2 and on Perseus kernel alpha33, which was what everyone said it needed to avoid the SDS issue. My phone was even tested safe/sane via the eMMC test app.
Not 100% certain if it was SDS, but either way it was unresponsive/dead.

ksc6000 said:
I just wanted to let you all know that even on 4.1.2 (stock and stock recovery), your note can just all of a sudden die. For no reason. I had stock malaysia ROM 4.1.2 that was released in April I believe. It was rooted, but all I used that for was Titanium Backup.
My usage of the phone was bare minimum, all I really use the phone is for Google Talk. That's actually all I was doing when all of a sudden the screen froze and the phone would not respond to any buttons or touches. Once I removed the battery it never started again. I can't get it to boot normally, or download mode or anything.
I'm in the US and i bought this off eBay back in November or something of last year, so I have no idea what to do now except get another phone.
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Ohh,Sorry for that & Thanks share this IMP Info,Have u ever Test eMMC Bug app? U have Sane Chip?U bought new phone?

No I didn't buy a new phone yet, don't have the money. I probably won't, I'll probably just use my old Nexus One. Yes I did use that app and it was insane chip. I just thought that with 4.1.2 it was safe, guess not.
Anybody know if it's safe for me to sell this phone on eBay? Obviously I'm going to sell it as is and write that it doesn't work, but I'm wondering if I do that, if someone can get it repaired, will they have access to my data that was on it?

ksc6000 said:
No I didn't buy a new phone yet, don't have the money. I probably won't, I'll probably just use my old Nexus One. Yes I did use that app and it was insane chip. I just thought that with 4.1.2 it was safe, guess not.
Anybody know if it's safe for me to sell this phone on eBay? Obviously I'm going to sell it as is and write that it doesn't work, but I'm wondering if I do that, if someone can get it repaired, will they have access to my data that was on it?
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Oh OK,but who ever face SDS they have one common symptoms like when press power button red led blinks,is it same happening in your mobile? also they are able to go in download mod but product id will be missing but in your case u r not able to go in download mod,its confusing.

jdomadia said:
Oh OK,but who ever face SDS they have one common symptoms like when press power button red led blinks,is it same happening in your mobile? also they are able to go in download mod but product id will be missing but in your case u r not able to go in download mod,its confusing.
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No red light. I can't get into download mode at all.

a piece of my knowledge acquired by reading the whole thread. First of all it doesn't matter if you were at 4.1.2 it should be dlk7 or higher (firsts 4.1.2 didn't have it). so do you know the number? if it was higher it could be a big problem for the affected chips :S
and secondly, there are 2 ways of SDS the first is known as "soft" which allow to enter download. the second is the hard one and the one that OP may have.
hope it helped somehow
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aka_sirok said:
First of all it doesn't matter if you were at 4.1.2 it should be dlk7 or higher (firsts 4.1.2 didn't have it). so do you know the number? if it was higher it could be a big problem for the affected chips :S
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Hmm ok, just curious, my dead phone was running 'HashCheck Hybrid v2.2 ZHDMB1.t0lte' with Perseus kernel. Should it have been safe or no?
aka_sirok said:
and secondly, there are 2 ways of SDS the first is known as "soft" which allow to enter download. the second is the hard one and the one that OP may have.
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I see, so Hard SDS it was then.

Perseus kernel has the patch for sds added.
GT N7105 with XDA Premium......that is all......

sure but i readed somewhere that to be 100% safe it has to be kernel and recovery sds patched. if you had those patched both the ones that have the insane chip must be worried :S
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I wonder if using cyanogenmod also end up the same? I mean this problem only caused by original firmware? if both is the same is there a reasonable solution for stock users? My wife has the phone for 2 months and I want to make sure she doesn't suffer the problem from the beginning. What are the measures I can take to avoid this problem?

maluus said:
I wonder if using cyanogenmod also end up the same? I mean this problem only caused by original firmware? if both is the same is there a reasonable solution for stock users? My wife has the phone for 2 months and I want to make sure she doesn't suffer the problem from the beginning. What are the measures I can take to avoid this problem?
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it is a hardware problem. check the version of the chip with EMMC checker, 2 months old it's quite a good notice because it means newer chip probably.
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Well hopefully. But while investigating the issue in internet I read 1-2 guys who have so called "sane" chips but still having freezes. I don't know if they really had the same issue or they had their phones bricked in the end but that caused me to doubt the safety of sane chips. I don't know.
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aka_sirok said:
sure but i readed somewhere that to be 100% safe it has to be kernel and recovery sds patched. if you had those patched both the ones that have the insane chip must be worried :S
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That was my understanding too, I had Philz CWM Touch (cant remember which version, but I d/led and installed it last month) installed as well.

This was the version I was running:
N7100XXDMC3 N7100OLBDMD1 - Malaysia

maluus said:
Well hopefully. But while investigating the issue in internet I read 1-2 guys who have so called "sane" chips but still having freezes. I don't know if they really had the same issue or they had their phones bricked in the end but that caused me to doubt the safety of sane chips. I don't know.
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Checked it and my wife's is a "sane" chip.