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[howto] root htc desire

i will not be held responsible for bricks..
enter bootloader mode.
fastboot oem unlock
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Do you have a Retail Desire that you have tried this on?

Yep how could you confirm it works if the retail phone is not available before 2 weeks?

This all seems a bit risky to me. It's pretty obvious that no one has seen a retail Desire on these forums yet. We can't even be sure what colour it is or whether it is branded in any way.
I hope it has been rooted but let's wait for some confirmation first. We don't want any expensive bricks.

If the fastboot oem unlock command is available, then I'm sure it will be similar to the Nexus, where it actually voids your warranty! And, currently the nexus devs have not found a way to re-lock to bootloader.

well, if this is real than I´m thinking about buying the desire,too.. although the samsung galaxy s is really interesting as well
but if I wait for the galaxy S another phone will probably be announced that is even better than the galaxy s and i have to wait again for that one and so on and so on
desire with root access will do i guess!!

marsdroid said:
i will not be held responsible for bricks..
be warned
Download and extract DesireRoot.zip below ..enter bootloader mode..
Then on windows cmd to extracted zip folder and then :
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash boot desireboot.img
reboot
and then you have root. muheh
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thx to ALL who made this happend.
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I will be surprised if this works as it has been stated by many that oem unlock is not present on the stock retail images found on the desire.
Hopfully for those who want a desire, there is an easy means to unlock/root but if the Desire is as locked down as the Nexus (beyond oem unlock) some people are going to have to get creative.
I wonder what HTC's stance on unlocked Desires will be if oem unlock is not present...will they be more strict than with the nexus since you really have to go out of your way? They may not even check to see if it's unlocked if there isn't a built-in means to do so...
curious.

With regards to warranty, you hear a lot that doing this, that or the other will void a warranty. The reality is that the party you hold a contract of sale with has the onus of proving that what you did caused a fault before they can refuse to repair or replace an given item, phones included.
That said, I will not be rooting my Desire until I see that it has been done by quite a lot of people and seems safe(ish)

This site also claims to have found a way to root the HTC Desire
knowyourcell.com/htc/htc-desire/desire-guides/443113/how_to_root_the_htc_desire.html

farnsbarns said:
With regards to warranty, you hear a lot that doing this, that or the other will void a warranty. The reality is that the party you hold a contract of sale with has the onus of proving that what you did caused a fault before they can refuse to repair or replace an given item, phones included.
That said, I will not be rooting my Desire until I see that it has been done by quite a lot of people and seems safe(ish)
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While that is very true, if you are without your phone for an extended period of time while you explain to HTC that they have to warranty your device because of obvious hardware problems, things may not be all happy-go-lucky. Most don't have a spare phone sitting about in case their primary goes tits up.
anders4431 said:
This site also claims to have found a way to root the HTC Desire
knowyourcell.com/htc/htc-desire/desire-guides/443113/how_to_root_the_htc_desire.html
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That site actually forgot to remove all the Nexus One labeling before publishing the article. It was posted somewhere else (I believe in the nexus one forums) before they edited the article to say "Desire".
keep an eye on that page and see how fast it vanishes if/when oem unlock is not present

I've wrote the how-to in Italian
http://www.tuttoandroid.net/android/guida-permessi-di-root-su-htc-desire-5085/

who`s first ?
Have any DEVs looked at this file ?? can anyone say its legit ..??
there seems to be a few of us who will be eager to try tommorow, but who will root first ?

Im not going to let anything like this come near my phone till I know the stuff works...
I do want to root it so i can save to SD and so on but not at the risk of some very questionable software.

So... Has anyone had the nerve yet to root the desire yet?
I suspect there are a couple of devs on the case at the moment...
G

N1 owners want the final ROM

Anyone tried yet ?

Yeah ive tried it, no luck im afraid

SGTDavePwnage said:
Yeah ive tried it, no luck im afraid
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Sometimes it sucks being right :/ Sorry!
This just means some devs are going to have to great quite creative

only had the phone 2days now , and i want root.... i`ve been using my rooted g1 for 16mnths and miss the whole changing roms already !!... hope somebody picks this up quick

anyone brave enough to try this method ??
http://www.knowyourcell.com/htc/htc-desire/desire-guides/443113/how_to_root_the_htc_desire.html

[Q] Will be possible in future S-OFF?

Hello Dear XDa'er
I bought myself the HTC one X and I wanted to ask if possible in the future would be S-OFF? I dare not htcdev on the way because of the warranty.
Thank you for your answers.
Ps: sorry for my bad English

FordSierra88 said:
Hello Dear XDa'er
I bought myself the HTC one X and I wanted to ask if possible in the future would be S-OFF? I dare not htcdev on the way because of the warranty.
Thank you for your answers.
Ps: sorry for my bad English
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Only time will tell

FordSierra88 said:
Hello Dear XDa'er
I bought myself the HTC one X and I wanted to ask if possible in the future would be S-OFF? I dare not htcdev on the way because of the warranty.
Thank you for your answers.
Ps: sorry for my bad English
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S-Off is not guaranteed to come at any time. It may do, but as far as I know Revolutionary has been stumped at the latest HBoots.
Also, illegitemate S-Offing is not going to rescue your warranty necessarily, and neither is using HTC-Dev going to totally break your warranty:
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/ said:
Please understand that you will not be able to return your device to the original state and going forward your device may not be held covered under the warranty for all claims resulting from the unlocking of the bootloader. HTC bears no responsibility if your device is no longer usable afterwards.
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Their point is that they won't repair under warranty anything that breaks as a result of unlocking the bootloader.
There isn't any hard-and-fast rule here, and people have reported different experiences, but it's better than nothing!

Sorry to ask this... i consider myself not a noob on android, rooting etc, but for some reason S-OFF has passed me by... what is S-OFF?

torespen said:
Sorry to ask this... i consider myself not a noob on android, rooting etc, but for some reason S-OFF has passed me by... what is S-OFF?
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S-Off is (in my understanding) essentially full control over all partitions (including CID which controls network lock etc.), radio partitions, etc.
HTC-Dev provides a semi S-Off bootloader state, allowing you to write to all system partitions EXCEPT the above (and possibly others that I've forgotten about).
The advantages of full S-Off are: able to carrier-unlock phone for free, able to update radio without flashing official HTC ROMs, able to revert to S-On fairly simply.
With HTC-Dev, although you can "re-lock" your bootloader, the phone reports as "re-locked" rather than "locked".
(I may be making all of this up but it is my understanding based on my research).

qpop said:
Their point is that they won't repair under warranty anything that breaks as a result of unlocking the bootloader.
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That would mean that your warranty would remain identical, only bricked devices wouldn't be repaired. (If you limit yourself to installing roms, that is)

H-Cim said:
That would mean that your warranty would remain identical, only bricked devices wouldn't be repaired. (If you limit yourself to installing roms, that is)
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Problem being if you read through their examples about overclocking etc and killing your cpu. It's very easy to say that some hardware has failed due to custom rom etc.
Now I have a nooby question too. I come from a desire which was prior to bootloader-gate (oh sigh, i did one of those). AFAIK our bootloader was unlocked from the factory so we could flash stuff straight up. S-OFF was pretty easy as well so we could do whatever we wanted pretty much
AFAIK, without unlocking bootloader, the best we can do is flash stock roms and attain root (once a stock bootloader method is available) but we can't get into custom roms/kernels without unlock? I'm pretty much at the point where I want to start tinkering with things... but just wonder if it's worth waiting, or if I should just go and htcdev unlock my phone now
I am a little wary of the warranty implications above, that is the only reason i hesitate.
M.

The S stands for Security

mattman83 said:
I am a little wary of the warranty implications above, that is the only reason i hesitate.
M.
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Me too

H-Cim said:
That would mean that your warranty would remain identical, only bricked devices wouldn't be repaired. (If you limit yourself to installing roms, that is)
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Well, possibly. As mentioned above, it's possible that the manufacturer could argue that, e.g. screen issue was due to overclock of CPU, overheating of glue holding screen resulting in the problem.
In reality I doubt that would happen, as (in the UK at least) under warranty it falls on the manufacturer to prove that the problem was due to a non-warranty problem. The CPU won't "remember" that it's been overclocked, and so with a factory reset I can't see how they could tell.
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Problem being if you read through their examples about overclocking etc and killing your cpu. It's very easy to say that some hardware has failed due to custom rom etc.
Now I have a nooby question too. I come from a desire which was prior to bootloader-gate (oh sigh, i did one of those). AFAIK our bootloader was unlocked from the factory so we could flash stuff straight up. S-OFF was pretty easy as well so we could do whatever we wanted pretty much
AFAIK, without unlocking bootloader, the best we can do is flash stock roms and attain root (once a stock bootloader method is available) but we can't get into custom roms/kernels without unlock? I'm pretty much at the point where I want to start tinkering with things... but just wonder if it's worth waiting, or if I should just go and htcdev unlock my phone now
I am a little wary of the warranty implications above, that is the only reason i hesitate.
M.
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I think since HTCDev started there has been far less S-On rooting, for two reasons. First of all, why bother? We can attain mostly-S-Off "legitimately" so why waste energy working out how to root S-On. Secondly, the lock-down of the OS has got better with every iteration, and, at least on recent phones, no hack has been discovered (again, there's less incentive to try due to HTCDev).
xmoo said:
The S stands for Security
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D'oh, meant to type that and forgot. Lol

qpop said:
I think since HTCDev started there has been far less S-On rooting, for two reasons. First of all, why bother? We can attain mostly-S-Off "legitimately" so why waste energy working out how to root S-On. Secondly, the lock-down of the OS has got better with every iteration, and, at least on recent phones, no hack has been discovered (again, there's less incentive to try due to HTCDev).
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Point taken
So basically it's harder to do than ever and less incentive to do than ever. Solution... go do htcdev I actually signed up for the site a while reading the thread, just waiting for the (apparently very slow) confirmation email. No work tomorrow due to good friday so I suspect my phone might get some ARHD love
I think warranty laws in australia are similar to what you say. Using non-genuine ink in printer they can't void your entire warranty, only if they can prove the ink was the issue. Slightly different issue, it's not like you've just hacked your printer firmware to increase print speeds or something... but I get what you mean.
M.
Edit - signed up again on different email and got activation stuff immediately - silly. Noticed they need to update the unlock page though... first step "remove and reinsert the battery" heh
Edit 2 - all done

xmoo said:
The S stands for Security
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I thought it stood for 'Safety'
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Excellent explanation and discussion by qpop and mattman on S-off thing. All I needed to know as new HTC user.
Sent either from my Arc or One X using xda premium

For those waiting for S-OFF by Revolutionary, it looks like you are very unlikely to get it. Baadnewz just asked in the #alpharev channel if the One would get S-OFF:
[19:46] <baadnewz> IEF you have any plans for ONE ? :B
[19:46] <baadnewz> (kick incoming)
[19:47] <burgd> To Krait or not To Krait
[19:56] <_anonymous> you got one bnz?
[19:58] * gabryel48 ([email protected]) has joined #alpharev
[20:13] * baadnewz is now known as baad_away
[20:17] * zookii ([email protected]/zookii) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[20:20] * zookii ([email protected]/zookii) has joined #alpharev
[20:20] <@IEF> baad_away: One X is pretty unlikely, we focus on qualcomm stuff.
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That's a real shame that. I guess now it's either HTCDev or nothing.

Odd reply, the XL (or X 4G) is going to be the far less popular device, I don't know why you would intentionally look at something that's going to get that much less usage?
M.

Evil-Dragon said:
For those waiting for S-OFF by Revolutionary, it looks like you are very unlikely to get it. Baadnewz just asked in the #alpharev channel if the One would get S-OFF:
That's a real shame that. I guess now it's either HTCDev or nothing.
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That is a shame.. Guess I'll roll with S-ON in a few days if there's no word of any further progress.
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Well according to Paul over at Modaco, S-Off is being worked on.
http://android.modaco.com/topic/352...s-mac-and-linux/page__p__1932154#entry1932154

f3nd3r said:
Well according to Paul over at Modaco, S-Off is being worked on.
http://android.modaco.com/topic/352...s-mac-and-linux/page__p__1932154#entry1932154
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Cool, anyone know if it will be possible to go from S-ON to S-OFF?
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Might as well reply here, then.
The One X is a completely different architecture (nvidia tegra), with it's own set of restrictions/security measures. Therefore, it felt it was not wise to get peoples' hopes up, and simply said it's 'unlikely'. There's really no point in asking for 'plans', you don't plan on finding exploits.
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Odd reply, the XL (or X 4G) is going to be the far less popular device, I don't know why you would intentionally look at something that's going to get that much less usage?
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There's One S and One XL which run on Snapdragon S4. Who says it will be 'far less popular' ? Because you say so?
If you knew a bit about architectural differences and our focus on Qualcomm-chipset phones in the past, then maybe you wouldn't find the reply so odd. I find your reply superficial. Does that help the discussion? Nope.

Sorry if I offended, that was not my intention. I'm a huge fan of what you've done in the past (being a Desire user). I do appreciate the difference between the phones and I get that even though the UI is basically identical, alot of the underlying parts are vastly different.
I also get that you do have more experience with the qualcomm since that's where you've focused in the past (and also the provider HTC have used most - the tegra is a little different for them).

[Q] To root or not to root that is the Question

I am seriously agonizing over whether or not to root my HOX, I have had a desire and rooted and flashed it to within an inch of its life and never had an issue, and its still going strong and running Shaky153's new ICS Sense rom.
My only concern is that I am unsure whether the HOX is as technically or physically robust as the Desire, and I keep getting the impression that it could breakdown at anytime, I'm not too bothered about physical damage as the phone is insured, but if it has to be returned to HTC I'm F*!£^%.
Please someone help me make this decision, should I root, if so why?
If not why?

Its totally up to you mate, but I will say that I had my HOX rooted a couple hours after purchasing it! And I love it!!

your decision mate...or wait for S-OFF..if you have a solid handset and no defects or issues with software then i would unlock it as by rooting this bad boy is the whole point of getting this phone. just do not forget about the bad stuff like voiding warranty though there is a couple of threads regarding this issue in the general section have a read through before unlocking...
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I am seriously agonizing over whether or not to root my HOX, I have had a desire and rooted and flashed it to within an inch of its life and never had an issue, and its still going strong and running Shaky153's new ICS Sense rom.
My only concern is that I am unsure whether the HOX is as technically or physically robust as the Desire, and I keep getting the impression that it could breakdown at anytime, I'm not too bothered about physical damage as the phone is insured, but if it has to be returned to HTC I'm F*!£^%.
Please someone help me make this decision, should I root, if so why?
If not why?
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I would wait for s-off. I'm not going to fiddle with mine until that is achieved. In the meantime, my desire will handle my flash addiction .

Jonnibravo said:
If not why?
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You do know that it voids warranty, right ??
If you just got it, then wait at least a week, test everything properly and make sure there aren't any hardware faults/manufacturing defects.

I have always rooted my devices after few hours of purchases. Except this one x. I actually cant wait to try custom roms and use root apps like i always do but sense 4 is beautiful and enough to keep me away from modifying it. So i think, i can wait for s-off. Plus, hearing the defects here and there, it would actually worth it to wait. I only have this device for 5 days so nothing to be rushed.
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I would
It's totally up to you but I would root just for some root apps (completely remove system apps, etc.). You should always be able to unroot.

cronus101 said:
will handle my flash addiction .
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I'm starting to have withdrawals.....lol. My head is just going... I need to flash, I need to flash, and it's really getting hard not to be tempted and wait for S-OFF.

I wasn't planning to root but I'm tempted to now just for the sake of 2 things, the 3dot menu remover patch and the font changer.
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iximages said:
Its totally up to you mate, but I will say that I had my HOX rooted a couple hours after purchasing it! And I love it!!
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hahaha. same here. I'm still new to the flashing rom even using android phones (Coming from iOS) and yet i took the risk of rooting it and applying custom roms. ARHD is the best!!!

[Q] How annoyed are you, not having root? (w/o voiding the warrenty)

Hi,
i am pretty much annoyed (and it's getting worse every day) about not able to root my device, without voiding the warranty.
I had made a decision, that i will never ever buy a new device again, before there is solution for rooting.
How about you?
schnurzelat

I'm really annoyed by their policy. I'm a student, I don't have enough money to just use HTC Dev tools and say goodbye to the fact my expensive device is gonna last at least two years.
I was expectin of course that I could not use warranty for a software problem that is totally understandable but after everything I saw on the forum I'm really angry against HTC.
So that is clear for me. It's my last HTC phone.

joplayer said:
I'm really annoyed by their policy. I'm a student, I don't have enough money to just use HTC Dev tools and say goodbye to the fact my expensive device is gonna last at least two years.
I was expectin of course that I could not use warranty for a software problem that is totally understandable but after everything I saw on the forum I'm really angry against HTC.
So that is clear for me. It's my last HTC phone.
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My device was unlocked and HTC in the UK replaced my screen under warranty. I re-locked, restored the stock recovery and ROM before sending it in.

I won't buy a HTC phone again.
My next phone is a Nexus Series.

I decided to root because i was assured by HTC Chat that it did not void ALL warranty, only issues that could be caused by software (rooting), so if any major hardware faults developed, it SHOULD still be covered under warranty

I'm not too fussed tbh, I'll wait for S-Off like a patient little boy.
HTC only allowed us to have S-Off through HTCDev because people were bugging them about it and they gave in.
They had to safeguard themselves against any backlash that might have come from N00bs bricking their devices and trying to claim for a new handset when it their own failures that fscked up their device anyway.
It's like Car Insurance, keep crashing your motor and expect to pay higher premiums... sooner or later you'll stop driving like a nob, understand what I'm saying?

The-Last-Hylian said:
I'm not too fussed tbh, I'll wait for S-Off like a patient little boy.
HTC only allowed us to have S-Off through HTCDev because people were bugging them about it and they gave in.
They had to safeguard themselves against any backlash that might have come from N00bs bricking their devices and trying to claim for a new handset when it their own failures that fscked up their device anyway.
It's like Car Insurance, keep crashing your motor and expect to pay higher premiums... sooner or later you'll stop driving like a nob, understand what I'm saying?
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Well said,the HOX is not as easy to root as previous HTC mobiles so they have had to cover their own backs.

Why should HTC allow you a warranty when u rooted ur phone. HTC team did a fantastic job in Sense.

deakodude said:
Well said,the HOX is not as easy to root as previous HTC mobiles so they have had to cover their own backs.
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Thanks, naturally, as with all things technological, people fiddle with it and break things, fix things and improve upon things. HTC did a good job with Sense imho, if we want to detract from that and make our own alterations why should they provide us with a warranty? In their eyes Sense was a finished product.
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Why should HTC allow you a warranty when u rooted ur phone. HTC team did a fantastic job in Sense.
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Exactly! Overall, aesthetically, I really like Sense, it does have it's limitations however and is a resource hog, but it's a nice little eco-system that works well.

manoj971 said:
Why should HTC allow you a warranty when u rooted ur phone.
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If I root and flash custom software on my phone I should have warranty on hardware issues such as the WiFi issue which has been proven to be a manufacturing defect. ie NOT caused by software.
It's like, buying a computer and running Ubuntu instead of Windows and then the manufacturer not covering a HDD replacement for a failed disk because of your OS. The only way hardware issues could be caused by the software is by overclocking the cpu and playing with voltages. There is no way in hell any other hardware issues could be caused by the software running on it especially bent pins affecting wifi antenna or assembly gaps to mention a few.
HTC not standing by warranty on these phones (especially when allowing us to unlock the bootloader) is criminal. Why allow us to unlock the bootloader if you can't do anything with it???
I am quietly waiting for the next nexus phone to be announced. I think I may sell my one x (which is the best phone I've ever owned) and go for a nexus. My last few phones have all been HTC but I have lost faith in the company and brand.

I think its a piss take HTC voiding part or whole of your warranty. If you went out and brought a brand new laptop and wanted to put Windows 8 on it, but you had to wait for let's say Acer to decide if the upgrade would work, to tweak and add useless programs and put a skin over it, OR void your warranty, have Windows 8 and never be allowed to send your laptop in for hardware errors, people would be pretty pissed off. These phones are mini computers. I believe they should be unlockable by 'fastboot oem unlock' which would mean full S-Off, anyway if your into loading ROMs and want a warranty. Don't buy this phone... Simple.
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cosmicovertones said:
There is no way in hell any other hardware issues could be caused by the software running on it especially bent pins affecting wifi antenna or assembly gaps to mention a few.
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On certain Samsung phones with certain emmc firmware in combination with certain ics kernel could permanently destroy the emmc if you did a full wipe/factory reset in cwm

godutch said:
On certain Samsung phones with certain emmc firmware in combination with certain ics kernel could permanently destroy the emmc if you did a full wipe/factory reset in cwm
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That is quite poor from Samsung in my opinion.

i purchased the one x on release day - coming from the dhd i thought i was choosing the right phone for me. i loved changing roms and fiddling until i had a hard ware failure on the device.
i was suprised that htc had done this, i have always upgraded my phone until the dhd (nothing else really worth the upgrade until the one x was released) around 6-9 months of age (due to boredom most of the time).
I just know that my next phone will not have sense on - as much as i love sense i can live without it, but not having root makes the phone boring after a while. Its a shame as i love htc hardware, but not willing to lose warrenty on a device that could fail after so many months. My wife already has her name on my phone when i upgrade next so warrenty is still needed.
i think this is a dirty trick htc has done here and will only cost them as time goes on.
i fancy a plain android phone now as ics / jellybean looks so nice so sense wont be missed too much thinking about it, i can see a nexus coming in my near future when they release the next generation.
IMHO, i wouldnt have minded so much if htc gave the option to remove ALL bloatware inc sense - forcing programs such as suckbook and twatter with only the option to disable is pathetic, they should either give you the option to flash a vanilla rom or remove all bloat before making you void warrenty getting rid of the crap.

Root?

Does anyone know how we can go about obtaining root?
One way would be to patch the boot.img with magisk but since we don't have recovery files that won't be possible for now. Is there any other method?

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Xshooter726 said:
Does anyone know how we can go about obtaining root?
One way would be to patch the boot.img with magisk but since we don't have recovery files that won't be possible for now. Is there any other method?
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No idea where to go with rooting but since all Razer phones are bootloader unlockable they seem ok with it to the point that they're letting us decide what to do with our phones.
They've made it clear that unlocking the bootloader and/or rooting/installing recovery will void warranty and will leave you entirely on your own as far as repairs go at that point.
Unless you're using Three Rescue and tell them you have no idea what happened and can't really say anything except;
"Well.... It's just.... Not working. I don't know why. It ran out of battery and since then I can't turn it on no matter what I do. Charging makes no difference."

Root plz?
Hey,
Just got confirmation mine has shipped. Anyone achieve root yet?
I saw bootloader unlock is easy... but i don't know enough to take that and achieve root from it on my own. Suggestions?

Can't wait to have root and Xposed :crying:
Come on Razer release the damn recovery files already lol

Xshooter726 said:
Can't wait to have root and Xposed :crying:
Come on Razer release the damn recovery files already lol
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Is there even a recovery on the stock phone?
The usual volume up-power button nets nada for me......

KOLIOSIS said:
Is there even a recovery on the stock phone?
The usual volume up-power button nets nada for me......
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Hmmm good question. It has a recovery just not sure what button combination will trigger it to boot.

Anyone tried using adb to reboot into bootloader/recovery?

Pyr0ball said:
Anyone tried using adb to reboot into bootloader/recovery?
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Not yet,just hit the door, I'll give it a go in a bit....
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Pyr0ball said:
Anyone tried using adb to reboot into bootloader/recovery?
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yes, they both work. you can unlock the bootloader right now we just have no way to root.

rainbowkittypaw said:
No idea where to go with rooting but since all Razer phones are bootloader unlockable they seem ok with it to the point that they're letting us decide what to do with our phones.
They've made it clear that unlocking the bootloader and/or rooting/installing recovery will void warranty and will leave you entirely on your own as far as repairs go at that point.
Unless you're using Three Rescue and tell them you have no idea what happened and can't really say anything except;
"Well.... It's just.... Not working. I don't know why. It ran out of battery and since then I can't turn it on no matter what I do. Charging makes no difference."
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Note that in the US it's technically illegal for them to deny warranty for anything software related unless they prove that the unlocking of the bootloader/rooting/etc is what caused the failure in the first place.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...iphone-rooting-android-does-not-void-warranty

jackfrost7 said:
Note that in the US it's technically illegal for them to deny warranty for anything software related unless they prove that the unlocking of the bootloader/rooting/etc is what caused the failure in the first place.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...iphone-rooting-android-does-not-void-warranty
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Interesting.... But I think they may be a way to relock the bootloader like on some Nexus devices. If that's the case then Razer won't be able to tell and would have to Honor the Warranty.

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Is there even a recovery on the stock phone?
The usual volume up-power button nets nada for me......
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Figured it out :good:
You can enter Recovery Mode by Holding volume Up while plugging in the USB.
And Download Mode same way but the Volume Down and plugging in.

Xshooter726 said:
Figured it out :good:
You can enter Recovery Mode by Holding volume Up while plugging in the USB.
And Download Mode same way but the Volume Down and plugging in.
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Whoa thanks for that! This is the first phone I've had with that button combo..

So I contacted Razer and asked when they plan on releasing Recovery images and Kernel sources and this is their response.

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So I contacted Razer and asked when they plan on releasing Recovery images and Kernel sources and this is their response.
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Considering the language barrier & /or translation, whether literal or, in real meaningful context, is hard to glean from that answer.
Could be a canned response, or, their intentions of not planning to accommodate, or, something else (not now, but, at a later date).
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Considering the language barrier & /or translation, whether literal or, in real meaningful context, is hard to glean from that answer.
Could be a canned response, or, their intentions of not planning to accommodate, or, something else (not now, but, at a later date).
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Not looking to good for development so far. I'm loving this phone a lot but without root and custom roms I really have no use for it. I sold my Note 8 because it was so locked down and I couldn't do what I wanted with the device. Now this one isn't locked down as much but it looks like Razer is lacking in releasing the required images needed for root and custom recovery (TWRP). They may or may not release it with time but it will be after the return period by then. So now I'm debating if I should return it and go with the Oneplus 5T which has amazing development.
Anyone else want to try contacting them? Maybe we can get something going if they see the user want it.

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Not looking to good for development so far. I'm loving this phone a lot but without root and custom roms I really have no use for it. I sold my Note 8 because it was so locked down and I couldn't do what I wanted with the device. Now this one isn't locked down as much but it looks like Razer is lacking in releasing the required images needed for root and custom recovery (TWRP). They may or may not release it with time but it will be after the return period by then. So now I'm debating if I should return it and go with the Oneplus 5T which has amazing development.
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I'm willing to be patient awaiting development on this phone, but I get it,especially with the hardware, this phone screams for customization.
I wouldn't blame ya for jumping to the OP5T, or, its predecessor.
Selling my Huawei Mate 9 Porsche Design in hopes of taking advantage of the Essential Phone/360° camera bundles, development is in the early stages, but, at least it's got TWRP/root....
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I'm willing to be patient awaiting development on this phone, but I get it,especially with the hardware, this phone screams for customization.
I wouldn't blame ya for jumping to the OP5T, or, its predecessor.
Selling my Huawei Mate 9 Porsche Design in hopes of taking advantage of the Essential Phone/360° camera bundles, development is in the early stages, but, at least it's got TWRP/root....
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Yes the essential phone at its current price is looking like a hell of a deal. With this phone I wouldn't mind having at least the stock rom rooted but we don't even have that. I'm willing to wait if there was at least some hope. I thought I saw some where we may even be covered with an extended holiday return window. Do you know anything about that? If that's the case ill try to run it as close as I can to the return dead line.
I opened up a poll on the Razer forums to see if most users are even interested in root.
I know a lot of user's here on xda that can't have a device without root. I'm interested to see what the response would be of non xda user regarding root.
https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/rooting-the-razer-phone.28381/

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Yes the essential phone at its current price is looking like a hell of a deal. With this phone I wouldn't mind having at least the stock rom rooted but we don't even have that. I'm willing to wait if there was at least some hope. I thought I saw some where we may even be covered with an extended holiday return window. Do you know anything about that? If that's the case ill try to run it as close as I can to the return dead line.
I opened up a poll on the Razer forums to see if most users are even interested in root.
I know a lot of user's here on xda that can't have a device without root. I'm interested to see what the response would be of non xda user regarding root.
https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/rooting-the-razer-phone.28381/
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I just contacted the chat service (Mobile),they cannot/will not say anything one way or the other,suggesting I follow 'em on social media,SMMFH.....................
If I were you,I'd check Amazon or Microsoft Store for their return policy & return the one you ordered direct from Razer,if it's worthwhile,not a drawn-out process with Razer.
Another option would be to flip it on Swappa,you could probably at least break even or come close to it,especially if you have a case/etc.. to throw in to the deal.................

KOLIOSIS said:
I just contacted the chat service (Mobile),they cannot/will not say anything one way or the other,suggesting I follow 'em on social media,SMMFH.....................
If I were you,I'd check Amazon or Microsoft Store for their return policy & return the one you ordered direct from Razer,if it's worthwhile,not a drawn-out process with Razer.
Another option would be to flip it on Swappa,you could probably at least break even or come close to it,especially if you have a case/etc.. to throw in to the deal.................
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Follow them on social media!? Lmao
Your advice sounds like the best route to go with. Thanks!
I have an old nexus 6 with custom everything and runs like a champ still. So that should do me just fine until something comes up.