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does the galaxy nexus have the counter like other

does our device have the counter like on gs2 for the modded roms ??? or not?? i am asking because some one have told me that it has but till now i cant find it. and secondo so also we need to have the jig to reset it??

1. No, there is no counter. This is a stock Google experience without any TouchWiz widgets.
2. The device supports Odin but you don't really need it as you can use fastboot (which is more popular on Nexus devices).

zephiK said:
1. No, there is no counter. This is a stock Google experience without any TouchWiz widgets.
2. The device supports Odin but you don't really need it as you can use fastboot (which is more popular on Nexus devices).
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so i can breathe a sigh of reliefe ?? sorry to bother you but im worried

qamrij said:
so i can breathe a sigh of reliefe ?? sorry to bother you but im worried
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No problem. I'm not sure what this "counter" app/widget does, but look around on the market you might find something relatively similar to it.

zephiK said:
No problem. I'm not sure what this "counter" app/widget does, but look around on the market you might find something relatively similar to it.
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no maybe i did not explained what i mean . on the gs2 there is a counter that if you exceed the limit of flasshed rom the device stops working i think it bricks the device. is there a same thing on the nexus.

zephiK said:
No problem. I'm not sure what this "counter" app/widget does, but look around on the market you might find something relatively similar to it.
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On the GS2 the bootloader keeps track of flashes. Any time your flash counter increments and it's an unsigned (by Samsung) image you get a wonderful yellow triangle on your boot splash and possibly no boot at all.
I had a GS2 for three days before I jumped carriers and got the GN... so I don't know all the details but that's the gist of it. It's lame.
AFAIK, there shouldn't be such a thing on the GN.

so my doubt is confirmed ???

That sounds silly if there are a number of flashes that you can do on a phone. That just seems pure bogus if there is a number of flashes on a phone.
Don't worry, flash all you want on the Galaxy Nexus. The device won't brick.

I don't think there was a limit to anything. I think the counter was there for ota and warranty purposes. Flashing should only be limited by the write cycles of your NAND. most people won't encounter that problem. Flashing a rom everyday then you might hit write cycle limit.
My grandma beat me down and took my nexus. Sent from a jitterbug with beats by dre.

@rbiter said:
I don't think there was a limit to anything. I think the counter was there for ota and warranty purposes. Flashing should only be limited by the write cycles of your NAND. most people won't encounter that problem. Flashing a rom everyday then you might hit write cycle limit.
My grandma beat me down and took my nexus. Sent from a jitterbug with beats by dre.
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Doubt it. On my G1, I flashed like a new ROM every day and never had a problem. Same with my Nexus S (on CM kangs/nightlies).
I wouldn't be scared to flash anything. Just flash and have fun with it. I'm positive that the OP will be fine.

you guys are wright because i dont think tht on nexus devices there is any limitation for flasshing. but when this person told me i just get little bit scared you know i care about my device ahahah

qamrij said:
you guys are wright because i dont think tht on nexus devices there is any limitation for flasshing. but when this person told me i just get little bit scared you know i care about my device ahahah
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I wouldn't worry about it lol. That's like saying a keyboard has a key span of X amounts of taps before it stops fully working.
Just flash and have fun with it. You'll be fine. Nothing to be scared about

zephiK said:
I wouldn't worry about it lol. That's like saying a keyboard has a key span of X amounts of taps before it stops fully working.
Just flash and have fun with it. You'll be fine. Nothing to be scared about
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flashing the aokp update and franco kernel

The GS2 just kept track of custom ROM flashes and had that yellow alert triangle on boot. You could easily get rid of it with a USB jig with a certain resistance, purchased from eBay. I had one that was meant to be for the Galaxy S, but also worked with the GS2, and if you flashed then booted the phone plugged into the PC with that, the triangle would be gone, and any ROM would be recognised as an official Samsung binary with the counter reset to 0. Best £3 USB cable I ever bought.
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I think the counter is meant to keep track whether you have done something that would void your warranty.
Imagine this scenario: you have rooted your device and unrooted it or flashed it to a custom rom and then back to your stock rom and then ask for a replacement or warranty service. Even you have unrooted your device or flashed it back to stock rom (if that's possible), the counter will tell them that your warranty is void.

[Q] Boot loop problem

Hi, I have a few questions I hope you can help me with?
My wife has a galaxy nexus, stock and unrooted. It is only around 6 weeks old and last week it started crashing, turning off then getting stuck in a boot loop just displaying the starting colours. I understand this is a known problem, she has software version 4.0.2 and it says her phone is up to date.
I "fixed" her phone once with a factory reset however this time she is away with work till Friday and now has no use of her phone or contractual minuets or data ect.
To make things worst she was planning on using the sat nav and wireless tethering to her laptop. It is the second time this has happened and she has lost all faith in her phone. She can maybe upgrade the software by downloading the 4.0.4 software but she/I don't see why she should have too. She just wants a phones that does what it says on the tin without needing to mod or mess around with it.
My questions are...
Is this problem enough for her to exchange the phone for another phone all together, she fancies a One X. Has anyone here managed to exchange the phone for this reason?
If not will updating the software to 4.0.4 fix the issue for sure? She really needs a reliable phone. Maybe it will be best to send it back under the warranty but we are afraid she will get another GNex with the same issue.
Any advice will be much appreciated
Sorry for the long post and thanks for reading,
Oliver

I would just try updating it and then wipe it. If that doesn't fix the issue it's most likely a hardware issue and I would warranty the phone.
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Hey there,
Well first I would suggest calming down and not reverting to hardware issues just yet, Bootloops are pretty common, especially when using phones which were meant for the (a bit) more advanced user, it's advantage is also it's flaw, being a modding monster that it is..
And this is by no means a flame - but I wouldn't want my wife to have a GN for that exact same reason, yes - she knows about flashing roms and stuff, but she needs a reliable phone, that will work and do what she needs it to do and nothing more, as opposed to me, I like to mess around a bit with my phones (also not that much, I plan to stay stock with my GN).
To your question, I don't have any experience with RMA's but it maybe worth a try.
You also mentioned she fancies the one-x.. that means she wasn't really keen on buying the GN in the first place (I believe).. and also - and don't take this the wrong way - I think she\you don't really know what the GN is all about, this isn't a phone for everybody, I mean - it is, but it's a shame to see it fall into hands that do not appreciate it for what it is, think of it as a nice new Ferrari, sure - it'll get your wife to work But she is not going to the Nurborgring to time her laps with it.. she'll complain that once in a while the clutch is too sensitive and that she cannot count on the car to take her to work every day, and that she really fancies the new Volkswagen beetle... you get my drift
Also - I believe that flashing to the 4.0.4 will sort the bootloops, which usually has everything to do with the kenrel.
Best of luck!
p.s. All of the above is said in a humoristic way!

omricn said:
Hey there,
Well first I would suggest calming down and not reverting to hardware issues just yet, Bootloops are pretty common, especially when using phones which were meant for the (a bit) more advanced user, it's advantage is also it's flaw, being a modding monster that it is..
And this is by no means a flame - but I wouldn't want my wife to have a GN for that exact same reason, yes - she knows about flashing roms and stuff, but she needs a reliable phone, that will work and do what she needs it to do and nothing more, as opposed to me, I like to mess around a bit with my phones (also not that much, I plan to stay stock with my GN).
To your question, I don't have any experience with RMA's but it maybe worth a try.
You also mentioned she fancies the one-x.. that means she wasn't really keen on buying the GN in the first place (I believe).. and also - and don't take this the wrong way - I think she\you don't really know what the GN is all about, this isn't a phone for everybody, I mean - it is, but it's a shame to see it fall into hands that do not appreciate it for what it is, think of it as a nice new Ferrari, sure - it'll get your wife to work But she is not going to the Nurborgring to time her laps with it.. she'll complain that once in a while the clutch is too sensitive and that she cannot count on the car to take her to work every day, and that she really fancies the new Volkswagen beetle... you get my drift
Also - I believe that flashing to the 4.0.4 will sort the bootloops, which usually has everything to do with the kenrel.
Best of luck!
p.s. All of the above is said in a humoristic way!
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Thanks for your post.
My wife wanted to upgrade her htc desire to a faster phone with bigger screen, she loves android and Google products and the Google nexus seemed like the best choice at the time (b4 the one X was released) she loved the phone till now.
The phone has twice randomly gone into a boot loop and twice we managed to get it working again both times within the week. This has caused her to lose faith in the phone. I guess the update should fix the issue but it doesn't seem to be available on her phone just yet.
A basic phone would not be enough 4 my wife, as I said in my first post she uses it to connect her laptop to the Internet and as a satnav. Also she watches youtube videos (720p screen is handy here) and for facebook.
We never had any such issues with our desires. When my wife returns home we will update her phone via pc if it doesn't void warranty (I'm sure it won't ) and hopefully the issue will be fixed for good.
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Sounds like our wives can get along my wify loves her htc desire hd! and to be honest, in my opinion in many ways it's much better than the sensation I had (stock).
And by what you described, if I was your wife (lol ) I'd also go for the GN.. I trust you know how to upgrade to 4.0.4, if you need any help just say so and I'll be more than happy to help
Also - from what I know upgrading will not void you warranty, you can simply lock the bootloader once you're done upgrading if you wish.
I really wish the bootloops will stop and that you wife will continue to enjoy her GN!

Hi again
I unlocked, rooted and installed Android Revelution HD 3.0.0 (based on 4.0.4) by mike1986 on her phone.
She is happy with her phone again.
Now it's rooted she likes the extra apps she can now install like AdFree.
I have a quick noob question though..
After installing the new rom her phone it said their is an update available. I understand that she should NOT accept over the air updates now she has a custom rom, and is that right?
Cheers, Oliver
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Hey Oliver, sorry.. seems I didn't get subscription notifications on your reply...
anyway, she "can" download the update, but it will not install, it will simply give an error upon installation, the reason is the original files that the update needs to update are not there anymore, or they are but have changed, so it will just give an installation error.. that's the only downside to having a custom rom. me personally - I like mine stock at the moment

Just a quick update, I rooted, s- offed and install Arhd rom on my wife's gnex.
She says her phone is running faster/smoother than ever and has not restarted since. It's running great and she is happy again
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[Q] To root or not to root that is the Question

I am seriously agonizing over whether or not to root my HOX, I have had a desire and rooted and flashed it to within an inch of its life and never had an issue, and its still going strong and running Shaky153's new ICS Sense rom.
My only concern is that I am unsure whether the HOX is as technically or physically robust as the Desire, and I keep getting the impression that it could breakdown at anytime, I'm not too bothered about physical damage as the phone is insured, but if it has to be returned to HTC I'm F*!£^%.
Please someone help me make this decision, should I root, if so why?
If not why?

Its totally up to you mate, but I will say that I had my HOX rooted a couple hours after purchasing it! And I love it!!

your decision mate...or wait for S-OFF..if you have a solid handset and no defects or issues with software then i would unlock it as by rooting this bad boy is the whole point of getting this phone. just do not forget about the bad stuff like voiding warranty though there is a couple of threads regarding this issue in the general section have a read through before unlocking...
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I am seriously agonizing over whether or not to root my HOX, I have had a desire and rooted and flashed it to within an inch of its life and never had an issue, and its still going strong and running Shaky153's new ICS Sense rom.
My only concern is that I am unsure whether the HOX is as technically or physically robust as the Desire, and I keep getting the impression that it could breakdown at anytime, I'm not too bothered about physical damage as the phone is insured, but if it has to be returned to HTC I'm F*!£^%.
Please someone help me make this decision, should I root, if so why?
If not why?
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I would wait for s-off. I'm not going to fiddle with mine until that is achieved. In the meantime, my desire will handle my flash addiction .

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If not why?
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You do know that it voids warranty, right ??
If you just got it, then wait at least a week, test everything properly and make sure there aren't any hardware faults/manufacturing defects.

I have always rooted my devices after few hours of purchases. Except this one x. I actually cant wait to try custom roms and use root apps like i always do but sense 4 is beautiful and enough to keep me away from modifying it. So i think, i can wait for s-off. Plus, hearing the defects here and there, it would actually worth it to wait. I only have this device for 5 days so nothing to be rushed.
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I would
It's totally up to you but I would root just for some root apps (completely remove system apps, etc.). You should always be able to unroot.

cronus101 said:
will handle my flash addiction .
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I'm starting to have withdrawals.....lol. My head is just going... I need to flash, I need to flash, and it's really getting hard not to be tempted and wait for S-OFF.

I wasn't planning to root but I'm tempted to now just for the sake of 2 things, the 3dot menu remover patch and the font changer.
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iximages said:
Its totally up to you mate, but I will say that I had my HOX rooted a couple hours after purchasing it! And I love it!!
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hahaha. same here. I'm still new to the flashing rom even using android phones (Coming from iOS) and yet i took the risk of rooting it and applying custom roms. ARHD is the best!!!

[Q] [POLL] Is it worth to root at the expense of loosing warranty?

I am thinking of installing custom rom on my phone for last few days. I know there is no S-off yet. So, i will be loosing my warranty after using HTCDev.com. Overall i am okay with stock rom, except overheating and wi-fi issues. You think any of the current rom will solve any of these issues and still be stable.
Is it worth to root now OR wait for S-off?
Are current custom ROMS for the HOX good enough for me to root and lose my warranty?

I voted YES! Why not?

trongnghia2411 said:
I voted YES! Why not?
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lol, cuz you probably lose your warranty ?

Is it worth to root at the expense of loosing warranty?
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The question you have to ask yourself, is do you want to take that risk?
you're potentially giving up a fully tested operating system and a safe guard against any potential hardware related problems down the track, for something that could be better / worse / same
That said, the warranty "MAY" be voided, doesn't mean it WILL (obviously it depends on alot of variables). You may not have any problems down the track, or the battery could superheat and melt through the phone casing

mcintoan said:
The question you have to ask yourself, is do you want to take that risk?
you're potentially giving up a fully tested operating system and a safe guard against any potential hardware related problems down the track, for something that could be better / worse / same
That said, the warranty "MAY" be voided, doesn't mean it WILL (obviously it depends on alot of variables). You may not have any problems down the track, or the battery could superheat and melt through the phone casing
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I unlocked. I rooted. Phone is now in repairs due to creaking and basically my whole phone was messed up. Phone was send with stock firmware and not locked. And they are still fixing it at no cost. So all under warranty. And will be rooting once I get it since my phone is unlocked
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mcintoan said:
The question you have to ask yourself, is do you want to take that risk?
you're potentially giving up a fully tested operating system and a safe guard against any potential hardware related problems down the track, for something that could be better / worse / same
That said, the warranty "MAY" be voided, doesn't mean it WILL (obviously it depends on alot of variables). You may not have any problems down the track, or the battery could superheat and melt through the phone casing
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Thats exactly my question in the first place. I would take a risk, no problem. But is it worth? I mean to ask, whether custom roms are that much better in terms of performance and solving issues such as overheating and wifi that i should root now and not wait for S-off?
Many Thanks for your responses.

veerm said:
Thats exactly my question in the first place. I would take a risk, no problem. But is it worth? I mean to ask, whether custom roms are that much better in terms of performance and solving issues such as overheating and wifi that i should root now and not wait for S-off?
Many Thanks for your responses.
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if you are worried about bloatware then you can disable the ones you do not want from settings-apps. that way bloatware gets disabled and phone runs more smoother..but if you are a flashsaholic then i still feel it deserves to root..but it is all about what you are after really and what you are use to

It would be easier for people to vote if your question was phrased as:
"Are current custom ROMS for the HOX good enough for me to root and lose my warranty?"

Its worth loosing your warranty, it will take still more months to s-off and even more and there may be chance for 1 year too. any way you are going to loose your warranty in one year.
Just loose your virginity and flash custom rom , it is fun to have custom rom in hox and it will show you some better performance.
and the recommended rom is charmeleon rom.
Did i say virginity , sorry warranty!

I heard its possible to unroot device, so you can get back your warranty.

Goku80 said:
I unlocked. I rooted. Phone is now in repairs due to creaking and basically my whole phone was messed up. Phone was send with stock firmware and not locked. And they are still fixing it at no cost. So all under warranty. And will be rooting once I get it since my phone is unlocked
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Actually real question for me is whether it is WORTH rooting for the custom roms available? Are custom roms that much better than stock in terms of performance as well as ironing out bugs such as overheating and wi-fi?
I do understand that HTC will probably honor the warranty (if needed), in case the cause is not root related.
Many Thanks...

junialum said:
It would be easier for people to vote if your question was phrased as:
"Are current custom ROMS for the HOX good enough for me to root and lose my warranty?"
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Thanks for suggestion, will edit my post...

veerm said:
Actually real question for me is whether it is WORTH rooting for the custom roms available? Are custom roms that much better than stock in terms of performance as well as ironing out bugs such as overheating and wi-fi?
I do understand that HTC will probably honor the warranty (if needed), in case the cause is not root related.
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Honest answer then yes. Worth rooting just for the performance as well and for custom kernels. current state of the kernels is messed up. Franco kernel has been cleaned up and reworked from source and well it is a beast of a kernel. i will say this again. my phone was unlocked and rooted. it is currently in repairs due to some manufacturers errors. it is all being covered by warranty and no mention that my phone is unlocked. so. only way to lose the warranty is if you overclock and the motherboard gets fried then yes the warranty is voided. but if you have like a screen that has came off or gap on either side and you still have your phone unlocked you are covered as it was not caused by any third party software.

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Honest answer then yes. Worth rooting just for the performance as well and for custom kernels. current state of the kernels is messed up. Franco kernel has been cleaned up and reworked from source and well it is a beast of a kernel. i will say this again. my phone was unlocked and rooted. it is currently in repairs due to some manufacturers errors. it is all being covered by warranty and no mention that my phone is unlocked. so. only way to lose the warranty is if you overclock and the motherboard gets fried then yes the warranty is voided. but if you have like a screen that has came off or gap on either side and you still have your phone unlocked you are covered as it was not caused by any third party software.
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if you are worried about bloatware then you can disable the ones you do not want from settings-apps. that way bloatware gets disabled and phone runs more smoother..but if you are a flashsaholic then i still feel it deserves to root..but it is all about what you are after really and what you are use to
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I am not a big flashaholic. At least not yet
I am interested in custom roms mainly to see if it fixes overheating and poor wifi issues. Better performance could be bonus. So my question is narrowed down to (as we probe further), is there a rom i can install which will fix overheating and wifi while keeping it stable?
this is been very helpful, really appreciate it.

Serge.C said:
I heard its possible to unroot device, so you can get back your warranty.
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AFAIK, you can unroot it but it will say "Relocked" not "Lock". In other words HTC will know that you have rooted it at least once even if you are on the stock rom at that moment

I just returned my phone to Expansys for an exchange and it was unlocked.

Goku80 said:
Honest answer then yes. Worth rooting just for the performance as well and for custom kernels. current state of the kernels is messed up. Franco kernel has been cleaned up and reworked from source and well it is a beast of a kernel.
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Does it get hot on that kernel? I havent rooted because ive been thinking of sending this thing back for an exchange cause it keeps getting to 45 deg just when browsing 52-54deg when on 5min gaming. Since it seems like 8/10 HOX have the same issue either i root and get a rom that fixes it, or just send this back for a refund with seller.
PS: Not to mention i the left side of screen does pop out a bit i have to keep bending it in. but i can live with that for a while then just replace, but i cant live with a HOT Phone!!!!

droidpr said:
Does it get hot on that kernel? I havent rooted because ive been thinking of sending this thing back for an exchange cause it keeps getting to 45 deg just when browsing 52-54deg when on 5min gaming. Since it seems like 8/10 HOX have the same issue either i root and get a rom that fixes it, or just send this back for a refund with seller.
PS: Not to mention i the left side of screen does pop out a bit i have to keep bending it in. but i can live with that for a while then just replace, but i cant live with a HOT Phone!!!!
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Return it my friend. Or speak to them to find out why the phone is like that. And no my phone never gets hot. Kernel is just fine.
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Goku80 said:
Return it my friend. Or speak to them to find out why the phone is like that. And no my phone never gets hot. Kernel is just fine.
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+1 for sending it back. Screen flex can't be caused by a custom Rom so they should fix/replace no problem
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Not worth it.
Unless HTC confirm on HTCDEV that unlocking the bootloader will in no way void the warranty, I will not do it.
For me to do it, they need to specify in clear English that this act alone will not void warranty.
I can understand software faults due to custom roms, bricked devices or CPU GPU issues due to overclocking, but unlocking a bootloader alone shouldn't void it, nor should the use of a custom rom.
Alot of people will want to do it just to get superuser to use rooted apps & will want to keep using official HTC OS - it annoys me that this alone would void warranty.
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Sleep of Death

I'm root and unlocked bootloader and I want to know if xperia ZL suffers from "Sleep of Death" issue like the Z...and does the fix applied to ZL as well..
Cause my zl kinda suffer from it...after a reboot the phone shut itself..it will stay longer if I connected to a charger but after a long period it will shut it self again...I think it's a software issue cause when in cwm, it doesn't shut down...but I have formatted to factory state and everything stock but the problem still persist...
I'm on latest 2.67 firmware and stock kernel but will relocking the bootloader will save my phone...if not, I'm gonna try to claim warranty and hopping they don't detect I'm already void the warranty even I'm relock again...
Hope someone can help....tq
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martin132014 said:
I'm root and unlocked bootloader and I want to know if xperia ZL suffers from "Sleep of Death" issue like the Z...and does the fix applied to ZL as well..
Cause my zl kinda suffer from it...after a reboot the phone shut itself..it will stay longer if I connected to a charger but after a long period it will shut it self again...I think it's a software issue cause when in cwm, it doesn't shut down...but I have formatted to factory state and everything stock but the problem still persist...
I'm on latest 2.67 firmware and stock kernel but will relocking the bootloader will save my phone...if not, I'm gonna try to claim warranty and hopping they don't detect I'm already void the warranty even I'm relock again...
Hope someone can help....tq
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Well, im 100% sure that problems on phone comes put when people root, change firmware, custom. etc all kind of (pirate stuff) not officilly from sony to the phone, i have always been stok official on every phone i had ( S2, S3, NOTE2, ZL) and nothing has happened to me with sudden death or sleep of death.
I just want to know WHY PEOPLE KNOWING ALL THIS ISSUES ON CUSTOM, LIKE BUGS ETC THEY STILL LIKE CUSTOM.... lol thats like to be MASOCHIST..
STICK to the stock.

danieldp1990 said:
Well, im 100% sure that problems on phone comes put when people root, change firmware, custom. etc all kind of (pirate stuff) not officilly from sony to the phone, i have always been stok official on every phone i had ( S2, S3, NOTE2, ZL) and nothing has happened to me with sudden death or sleep of death.
I just want to know WHY PEOPLE KNOWING ALL THIS ISSUES ON CUSTOM, LIKE BUGS ETC THEY STILL LIKE CUSTOM.... lol thats like to be MASOCHIST..
STICK to the stock.
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I agreed with you, I always been stock, no root or unlocked bootloader. I rather be with a phone that have warranty just in case something happen, than been with a modified phone, death and not warranty if Sony found out.
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Every phone I had I've modded the **** out of it. Yet I never had the problem that I've broken the phone. I don't know how people get their phone destroyed, the only reason I can think of is the fact that people don't read carefully and miss important details in a description or tutorial.
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maclancer said:
I agreed with you, I always been stock, no root or unlocked bootloader. I rather be with a phone that have warranty just in case something happen, than been with a modified phone, death and not warranty if Sony found out.
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Well that's good for ordinary people with ordinary stuff on their hand...other people doesn't like that and I'm one of it...well this is personal liking anyway...
I have used many android phone in range of model including iphone and all root and jailbreak...and some people love the change and love to put their phone to the limit...
Only recent phone I have problem with and old model don't have any problem...
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einfachgaer said:
Every phone I had I've modded the **** out of it. Yet I never had the problem that I've broken the phone. I don't know how people get their phone destroyed, the only reason I can think of is the fact that people don't read carefully and miss important details in a description or tutorial.
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I'm considered myself an experience on rooted phone...always double check when trying to flash or modded something....and always successful on it...if I brick it I always recover it again...only the current flagship I got problem with...I think this is a problem with some Sony phone that have problem on some of it...that something they miss...I work in Japanese factory and I know how they work....
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martin132014 said:
I'm considered myself an experience on rooted phone...always double check when trying to flash or modded something....and always successful on it...if I brick it I always recover it again...only the current flagship I got problem with...I think this is a problem with some Sony phone that have problem on some of it...that something they miss...I work in Japanese factory and I know how they work....
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bad luck you got a defective phone, cause mine is working like new with 0 issues.
I had rooted many other phones and also moding, but the truth is that nothing is much better than STOCK = 0 BUGS, and troubles.

danieldp1990 said:
bad luck you got a defective phone, cause mine is working like new with 0 issues.
I had rooted many other phones and also moding, but the truth is that nothing is much better than STOCK = 0 BUGS, and troubles.
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Well that's true...I'm root and modded my phone always use stock rom...I am not a fan of custom rom but always modding to the limit...always trying to put something on to maximize it...
Bad luck or not, today I'm trying my luck again to go to Sony center to claim warranty on my defective phone...I have made a factory reset and relock my bootloader...so hoping Sony wont find out...if they did...moneys going down the drain...
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I think we are to premature to say about issues with root, modified or custom roms because the Zl, Z ,Z1 they are babys come out few mounts ago and all the developers are trying hard to make it fly. I remember my HD2, I get that phone after 2 years of his release and I was flashing tons of roms everyday and I find many powerful and stable roms. So be patient.

eclyptos said:
I think we are to premature to say about issues with root, modified or custom roms because the Zl, Z ,Z1 they are babys come out few mounts ago and all the developers are trying hard to make it fly. I remember my HD2, I get that phone after 2 years of his release and I was flashing tons of roms everyday and I find many powerful and stable roms. So be patient.
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Well, maybe but i think the problem is not in root or any roms...the phone is just defective..i got mine back from repair and work ok again...
And thats true about old phone...i used some HTC, and Sony's old phone, always flash something, and no problem occur...only todays phone, i always encounter many defects on it...great technology, but also fragile...
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as far as i understand, its not because u rooted or unlocked but bcuz of a problem with the battery management syste(BMS).
there appears to be sum fault with battery or the bms, which causes the phone to shutdown.
unfortunately, the only solution is to change the battery. u will have to return ur phone to sony. but to claim warranty, u must unroot and relock the bootloader.
mind you, there is only a small number of phones with this problem.
this same issue happend with my ZL too. i returned and within one week, they returned a brand new phone to me.
mine was fully stock, locked bootloader and unrooted(the previous and the newer too)
new is working awesome.
hope this helps, if it does, u know where the thanks button is!

control freak said:
as far as i understand, its not because u rooted or unlocked but bcuz of a problem with the battery management syste(BMS).
there appears to be sum fault with battery or the bms, which causes the phone to shutdown.
unfortunately, the only solution is to change the battery. u will have to return ur phone to sony. but to claim warranty, u must unroot and relock the bootloader.
mind you, there is only a small number of phones with this problem.
this same issue happend with my ZL too. i returned and within one week, they returned a brand new phone to me.
mine was fully stock, locked bootloader and unrooted(the previous and the newer too)
new is working awesome.
hope this helps, if it does, u know where the thanks button is!
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Was going to say I haven't experienced this issue... and my phone is rooted and unlocked...