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Now I seem to remember that after X amount of replacements sprint is "supposed" to reccomend another phone as a replacement...
Could anybody in the know tell me/PM me what might be on the WEL list?
Big TIA!
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to my knowledge/experiences it is totally up to the stores discretion. ive seen people as of late going on the 4th, 5th device of the same model. this isnt just due to the store, but also because with certain models there is no comparable phone that isnt a downgrade.. that being said, its not likely they are going to give you an evo or a nexus, may be best to work the angle of an early upgrade with a discount to the equipment if they are continuing to offer the same equipment
Ya that's what I thought...not trying to get a nexus, but was wondering if the evo could be an option...
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Good luck is all I can really say.
Our store is only Advanced exchange, and we've got to look at device history, and decide if the person is just trying to get into a different model. We would either order another Epic (depending on what broke on this one, and what broke on the previous ones... might just be an education issue rather than something defective) or see what else is on the WEL. (BTW, WEL list is redundant, kind of like ATM machine.)
Really, it depends on the store you go to, and how you handle the situation.
What is wrong with this phone and what was wrong with the previous ones?
NO. I worked in a group called Multiple Device Exchange. There is no policy that says we will exchange the device for another one. Sprint is a warranty replacement. There is a program called WE'LL, but that is few and far between. It is Sprint policy that after 3 Advanced Exchanges in a 12 month period, the customer has to go to the repair center for the device to be looked at. There is a 35 mile exception to that rule.
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What is wrong with this phone? It honestly sounds like u want an evo
"The greatest respect you can earn is self respect" Louie Simmons
Okay, it really depends on who you are dealing with.
Here is the thing, to qualify for the WEL Program you must have at LEAST 3 replacements that involved a tech store. It depends the person you talk to, but that is the minimum, and it must be pretty close together.
Now it depends on your issue. If you feel that your problem or problems were hardware related, you most likely couldn't switch to a Nexus S as it is similar hardware UNLESS your issue is physical keyboard related.
If it is software, Nexus S may be up for grabs, since it is google.
As for getting an Evo, it is possible, usually they try to stay within the same manufacturer, but it is not unheard of to switch out,
Unfortunately the Evo is on nationwide back order (so is the Epic) so it may be hard to get that. I hear the Samsung Within is coming July 24th, I would wait for that, and keep getting your Epic replaced so you have more to complain about.
Well I've been hella nice about having to go in... its not their fault that refurbs just show up jacked...
First epic bought on launch day, the processor fried, wouldn't update...
Second one.. immediately the accelerometer was wildly funky, couldn't play any games.. brought it back the same day at 5:50 and waited until about 8:30pm.. then the tech came out and told me that it makes texts and calls now :-( appearantly nobody told him what I said about that not being the issue... had to bring it back the next day.... had to wait a week since it was memorial day...
Third (current).... the home, back, menu, and search buttons choose when to work. Usually after hitting them about 6+ times...
So on Friday when they told me to come get the next one... it wasn't there, the phones back ordered.. so at this point after being there about 10 times in 2 weeks.. I asked what I'm supposed to do about a phone? The girl rudely told me there's nothing they are going to do... I asked about a nib epic... flatly told no, they won't do that and I have to wait.. even though the TEP sign flatly states "next day replacement".. so I got pissed and said **** sprint and stormed out (this being the only time I've been out of line)
Called sprint and some blow hard said what do you want from us? I said a phone that works.... he said that he can't bring me one since he's in new mexico and cali is to far for him to drive. ****in dumb ass...
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Google Voice (with record) is your friend in those cases.. CS Reps shouldnt be saying stuff like that. (nor should the customer be a ****)
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Google Voice (with record) is your friend in those cases.. CS Reps shouldnt be saying stuff like that. (nor should the customer be a ****)
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dangit wish i though of using that.. i was really professional the whole process.. minus the rude asst. manager setting me off..
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Well I've been hella nice about having to go in... its not their fault that refurbs just show up jacked...
First epic bought on launch day, the processor fried, wouldn't update...
Second one.. immediately the accelerometer was wildly funky, couldn't play any games.. brought it back the same day at 5:50 and waited until about 8:30pm.. then the tech came out and told me that it makes texts and calls now :-( appearantly nobody told him what I said about that not being the issue... had to bring it back the next day.... had to wait a week since it was memorial day...
Third (current).... the home, back, menu, and search buttons choose when to work. Usually after hitting them about 6+ times...
So on Friday when they told me to come get the next one... it wasn't there, the phones back ordered.. so at this point after being there about 10 times in 2 weeks.. I asked what I'm supposed to do about a phone? The girl rudely told me there's nothing they are going to do... I asked about a nib epic... flatly told no, they won't do that and I have to wait.. even though the TEP sign flatly states "next day replacement".. so I got pissed and said **** sprint and stormed out (this being the only time I've been out of line)
Called sprint and some blow hard said what do you want from us? I said a phone that works.... he said that he can't bring me one since he's in new mexico and cali is to far for him to drive. ****in dumb ass...
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First phone - how did the processor fry? Custom ROM/Kernel?
Second phone - Did you calibrate the accelerometer? Did they hard reset to see if the issue remained?
Third phone - Do you have a screen protector that covers the buttons and is starting to wear out? This actually sounds hardware related, but there may be some other things killing the buttons.
TEP next day replacement applies to deductible based claims. If you want to call Asurion and pay $100 to get a replacement Epic next day, you do have that option (if they have any in stock.)
Based on the situation, I would definitely not switch you out of this device yet. The issues are not recurring (different issue on different devices) and even though the button issue is a legitimate concern, I would want to know more about the first two swaps before considering a device change.
Yes, the phone is backordered, just like the EVO (so even if they approved a different device, you still wouldn't get it right now anyway.) and we aren't typically able to switch you to a NIB phone, unless your existing one is completely non-functional, and the manager allows us to take the hit for breaking WEL.
I'd be willing to bet that the issue can be fixed with a new digitizer, which the tech stores *might* be able to replace if they have one.
Did you leave the device with the techs on the home keys issue or was this a non-tech store you went to? Which of these stores were corporate owned or third party?
1st one I did root and try an older oc rom.. but I went back to stock almost immediately, like back in january.. its not a windows phone and I like how stock performs..
2nd Yes I did calibrate through the display settings...and hard reset.. multiple times..
3rd.. no screen protectors required with this bad boy! The buttons just would pick and choose when to work... mostly not..
The store I bring it to (but not ever again) is a corporate repair center..
I try EVERYTHING I can before I bring any phone in.. including formating the sd card.. but this all happened within a 2 week period. Frustrating...
I actually just got a nib epic today... after a politely worded email to every sprint exec I could find an address for... they even had it set up at a sprint store close to where I am working today since I work in other cities a lot..
All I wanted was a phone that works.. period. Been a customer for 9+ years.
Much love sprint!! Guess I won't be getting that dell streak5 anytime soon..
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Very similar thing happened to me and I can understand the frustration of taking the time to get to the Sprint store, wait 2+ hours, only to be told everything is OK or just come back in 3 days plus holidays. The wait through the line, the tech inspection, and the decision making with the best course of action are not very well documented nor advertised in their TEP literature.
I would qualify my rage as "murderous" at times, and it was very difficult to stay professional at various stages of dealing with some employees. I was fortunate to get a NIB Epic after 3 bad refurbs and a friendly discussion with the store manager... the reps on the phone were beyond useless, however. Did you deal with any of the 17 departments that insist on transferring you before taking any initiative whatsoever?
I was even asked if my issues had been resolved and if I would give them a good rating. I said that I'd be lying if I said I would since the phone was about as functional as an underweight paperweight... after being offered to escalate things to a resolution specialist, I kindly declined to hold insisting that I'd be busy looking for a bat to test against my phone instead.
It would've been cheaper to pay the $100 and get a temp job in place of listening to crappy music at the Sprint store. /rant
lmao... i refuse to go back into that store ever again. rude, incompetent, pea brained, number conscious NOT customer conscious ass hole managers.. the techs and others were cool however .. i went through 12 touch pros LEGITIMATELY before i had to go scout out another store that would order me a tp2 or ANYTHING else for that matter. (guess i didnt learn my lesson). talk about wanting to drive my car full speed into the store window.
but the only bad thing about spending the 100 bucks is that, i think, they pull the phones from the same place that sprint does... so youre 50/50 on what you get anyway... but the next day policy is definitely worth the c-note.
on the phone transfer thing.. i only spoke to the girl that answers the phone her supervisor and then "account management"? the last one was the douche that said he couldnt bring me a phone from new mexico.. i told him thanks for wasting both of our time for the last 15 minutes, ill be going with att, thanks for the inspiration to do it asap...
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I am an employee and went through 6 pre's before I was able to upgrade into the EPIC (out of my pocket, btw, not as an ESRP exchange.) My device exchanges have to go through my District Manager, and he is really picky about letting an employee switch devices. I even made the case that each pre I switched to cost the company a lot of money, and it would have made business sense to switch me to the next option on WEL (which had less device problems)
I started in '04 with Sprint, and I learned early on that the only department over the phone that gets anything done is Retention. Your best bet is to find a sales rep that cares about service (as well as numbers) and who is willing to do what they can to get you taken care of (within reason.)
Nah it makes me sad... that even employees get the jacked up run around... all my buddies with their iphones look at me puzzled when I tell them what we go through sometimes..
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After replacing 5 Samsung Moments due to the radio locking up constantly someone in corporate retentions showed some mercy and gave me a free month of service and a $200 credit to put to a new phone. I made up the difference with cash and bought an Epic at the no contract price.
TEP - said you get refurbs or NEW... so if the refurbs are on backorder then you should be able to get a NEW PHONE.
just saying
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TEP - said you get refurbs or NEW... so if the refurbs are on backorder then you should be able to get a NEW PHONE.
just saying
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If you want to call Asurion and pay $100 to get a replacement Epic next day, you do have that option (if they have any in stock.)
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Asurion has a different inventory of phones. If they have a refurb in stock, they will send you a refurb, if they don't and they do have new stock, that is what they will send.
The store has to go by the WEL, whatever the highest priority number is on the list is what we are officially allowed to swap to. This is almost always a refurb of the same model. If that's not available, then the next in the list is usually the NIB from the store stock, but only if the WEL says we can use those. Right now, the EPIC refurbs are backordered, and WEL says NO for swapping to a NIB. Anything beyond that is up to the discretion of the store manager.
So my phone was stolen on Friday. Saturday I filed the claim.
Says it will take 1-3 days. Wed after getting no updates I call, they say should ship that day. Today I call they say it is now 10-14 days.....call Sprint they say there is nothing they can do.
So basically:
1) Go 14 days without a phone
2) Buy a new phone out of my pocket (what was the purpose of insurance again?)
3) Accept a different model phone (what was the purpose of me buying my phone just 2 weeks ago?)
That sucks, but don't you have an old crappier phone you can use while you wait? I know if you get your phone from best buy and buy your insurance through them, they'll give you a loaner phone while you wait for your replacement.
Post like this makes me wonder about insurance. I would not get off the phone till someone helped me.
Did you have lookout or tp app on it? I think your insurance can try to ping it also. But it is probably to late. Still, I would try.
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That sucks, but don't you have an old crappier phone you can use while you wait? I know if you get your phone from best buy and buy your insurance through them, they'll give you a loaner phone while you wait for your replacement.
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Thats only for damage, Best Buy doesn't cover lost and stolen. Hence why they have no deductible.
Its not a cell phone but I have magic jack for exactly this reason. Awesome device that just plain works and costs almost nothing.
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The reason you cannot get one for two weeks is because they are completely sold out and backordered. Sales cannot even get their hands on these phones right now. There is no magic warehouse of high demand phones strictly for insurance reasons. The fact that they offered you a similar device until you can get another is proof that they are doing what they can to work with you on it. Let this simply be a lesson that one needs to be more careful with their expensive electronics. You wouldn't leave $600 in cash laying around anywhere someone could even remotely consider walking off with it, why would you do the same with the phone? If in your case it was something more severe such as house being broken into or you were physically assaulted and mugged, then law enforcement should be stepping in so you can receive proper restitution. If you left it in your car and it was broken into, then you should know in times like this to never leave so much as spare change in your car.
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Wow. Just wow.
First off, you're right about there being no magic warehouse of them, and that they're simply unavailable. That's the part that sucks. But you're making a lot of other unreasonable assumptions here. For one thing, they're not offering him another model until his becomes available, they're merely offering him another model. PERIOD. They will not then say, "oh, hey, we got these back in, so we're going to send you one and you send the loaner back." That's not them trying to assist, that's them giving up on a reasonable solution. I think working with a local store to provide a loaner until it's available would be the reasonable solution here, but they're clearly not set up for that, and that's a shame.
And nice "blame the victim" mentality. You sound like the jerks who tell rape victims that it was their fault for dressing that way. The guy got his phone stolen. No world is it his fault that it was stolen. Someone still broke the law and TOOK his property without permission. Period. There's no logic behind telling him that's HIS fault and HE should have known better. How exceptionally rude and thoughtless.
Besides, he did protect himself by buying insurance on his new phone. He did the right thing, knowing stuff happens and these problems occur. He's one of the responsible ones. And the insurance isn't paying off. That's the reality.
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The reason you cannot get one for two weeks is because they are completely sold out and backordered. Sales cannot even get their hands on these phones right now. There is no magic warehouse of high demand phones strictly for insurance reasons. The fact that they offered you a similar device until you can get another is proof that they are doing what they can to work with you on it. Let this simply be a lesson that one needs to be more careful with their expensive electronics. You wouldn't leave $600 in cash laying around anywhere someone could even remotely consider walking off with it, why would you do the same with the phone? If in your case it was something more severe such as house being broken into or you were physically assaulted and mugged, then law enforcement should be stepping in so you can receive proper restitution. If you left it in your car and it was broken into, then you should know in times like this to never leave so much as spare change in your car.
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Nice troll!
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Not trolling. It's called playing the devil's advocate. Working for Sprint, I see a lot of bs every day where people do stupid things and result in their phone being lost/stolen. Asurion often times will offer a temporary replacement unit until theirs is available if you escalate the issue. Never once did I say it doesn't suck that his phone was stolen, I'm merely pointing out that in the future this can all be alleviated by being more careful. Starting a thread to flame Sprint/Asurion will result in said person being questioned as to their reasoning for doing so.
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You're a pretty good troll, indeed. Where did you learn these skills?
Troll techniques uses so far:
1. Its OPs fault
2. tl;dr original post --> talk about other crap not relevant to post (like he was offered a loaner phone)
3. Call OP stupid, careless, other flame names
4. Lie blatantly.. about phone availability, policies, etc.
Need I go on?
Didn't know Sprint policies included telling people it's their own fault their phone was stolen. That's a pretty poor reflection on the company, I must say.
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Didn't know Sprint policies included telling people it's their own fault their phone was stolen. That's a pretty poor reflection on the company, I must say.
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He's just a troll and hes playing a sprint employee on TV.. err.. internet.
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He's just a troll and hes playing a sprint employee on TV.. err.. internet.
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Actually I completely agree with him. I was just as irritated when I read the OP's post. I've had the most top of the line phones since smart phones were on the market, and I've never once been even close to a situation where my phone could get stolen. He's lucky Asurion covers theft at all. Theft is one of the most preventable problems there is.
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Actually I completely agree with him. I was just as irritated when I read the OP's post. I've had the most top of the line phones since smart phones were on the market, and I've never once been even close to a situation where my phone could get stolen. He's lucky Asurion covers theft at all. Theft is one of the most preventable problems there is.
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This. Very much this. The amount of irresponsibility i see every day as a tech is sickening. What is even more disheartening is the greater amount of entitlement.
On that i won't be elaborating, but needless to say I am sorry for the OP, but surely you can comprehend that there simply are little to no refurbs available. Refurbs have to come from somewhere, and that would be returned phones. The phone is little over half a month old, so its not hard to see that the amount of refurbs made and phones returned is creating a backorder limbo, with the rates being about equal. Also, exacerbating the problem is the fact that many are out of 14 days so issues dealing with defects no longer qualify for a new, but a refurb instead.
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How is this Sprints fault?
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I haven't had problems with misplacing my phone, but it does happen. Trust me I treat it like a brick of gold. Fiancée is always saying you care more about your phone, etc. Anyways isn't a replacement what why we pay insurance? If some dumbass hits your car you sure aren't gonna wait two weeks for a rental. Cut the man some slack, **** happens and it could happen to you. At least he's wanting another Epic Touch and not jumping on the iPhone bandwagon. I mean let's go wait in line for a phone that's already outdated...
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Actually I completely agree with him. I was just as irritated when I read the OP's post. I've had the most top of the line phones since smart phones were on the market, and I've never once been even close to a situation where my phone could get stolen. He's lucky Asurion covers theft at all. Theft is one of the most preventable problems there is.
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Stuff happens. You can't assume that every person who has something does it by ignorance. Now, let's assume I had it stolen because of my ignorance. I am STILL paying $8 a month to cover that ignorance, and it isn't being done.
I just had to go out and buy an Evo 4G in the mean time (obviously I could have bought something less expensive, it was $150, but still). So now I will wait for my Samsung to get to me and promptly cancel my insurance coverage. If I'm going to be SOL anyway paying $96 a year and $100 for the deductible and $150 for a replacement in the meantime I might as well just go without it.
And for the record, I have had more smartphones than I can count on my hands and possibly my toes and have never had one lost, stolen, or KIA due to user error before. But like I said at the beginning, stuff sometimes happens.
So for all those saying that if someone gets something stolen thy are irresponsible? So if I go to work and my house gets broken into its my fault? That is what insurance is for. They cover lost/stolen phones and that is why he pays the $8 bucks a month. I'm glad he told me how asurion works.
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People hate to take any blame for their own mistakes, and often times it is best that they hear something that they don't want to hear. As I've clearly stated, not every theft leaves the owner at fault, but often times it does. Phones are constantly left laying on counters at bars, in lunch rooms at work, on benches in locker rooms, etc. and then they are angry for having to pay the deductible. I may piss some individuals off when I ask them how it came about being stolen, but finding out actually is part of my job. Teaching people a little responsibility can go a long way considering they get a limited number of claims.
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your blatant disregard for anything as far as customer service is concerned is scary, now this has turned into a flame war, but oh well you brought it onto yourself. in no way shape or fashion is it your job to see why it was stolen , its your job to hear him say it was stolen ask for the police report and that's it.
So your telling me that if i go into a convenience store leave my phone on the counter for a second while my head is turned that its MY FAULT no its the thief who took it. I have had my car stolen and the police tried to grill me because i left the keys in the car and it running but yet it was my fault. in fact no it was not, because how many people leave their doors unlocked at night does that mean its their fault if they get their house broken into NO!
Now i can see that they may be back ordered and if asurion offered a different phone in the meantime then i would do it.
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your blatant disregard for anything as far as customer service is concerned is scary, now this has turned into a flame war, but oh well you brought it onto yourself. in no way shape or fashion is it your job to see why it was stolen , its your job to hear him say it was stolen ask for the police report and that's it.
So your telling me that if i go into a convenience store leave my phone on the counter for a second while my head is turned that its MY FAULT no its the thief who took it. I have had my car stolen and the police tried to grill me because i left the keys in the car and it running but yet it was my fault. in fact no it was not, because how many people leave their doors unlocked at night does that mean its their fault if they get their house broken into NO!
Now i can see that they may be back ordered and if asurion offered a different phone in the meantime then i would do it.
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And I'm even saying ASSUME I was ignorant. I wasn't, but assume it. Because I agree a little bit you can prevent things from getting stolen, but the point still is they offer the insurance for lost/stolen property, so the ignorance on behalf of the person who loses or has something stolen is irrelevant.
And your last point is the best one. What I was looking for them to do was say "OK, we will send you a comparable device in the meantime, and then you have to send it back to us when yours is returned". If I'm paying the price I do I should not be left without a phone for two weeks.
Instead they told me, BUY a comparable device, use it, send it back in two weeks, and we will refund you.
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And I'm even saying ASSUME I was ignorant. I wasn't, but assume it. Because I agree a little bit you can prevent things from getting stolen, but the point still is they offer the insurance for lost/stolen property, so the ignorance on behalf of the person who loses or has something stolen is irrelevant.
And your last point is the best one. What I was looking for them to do was say "OK, we will send you a comparable device in the meantime, and then you have to send it back to us when yours is returned". If I'm paying the price I do I should not be left without a phone for two weeks.
Instead they told me, BUY a comparable device, use it, send it back in two weeks, and we will refund you.
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i would get that in writing , now i dont know your financial situation but comparable would mean another 600 buck phone, in my mind i would do it knowing i would get that money in cash in hand , but if they dont and say we will credit your account i wouldnt do it.
I don't think people are understanding the arguments here.
In the past I worked with security to try to help with campus crimes. Main problems being rape and thief. We could have easily have cut down on these problems if it weren't for one greater problem. Just plain stupidity. People ignore the safety advice we were giving them. Late class at night? No friend to walk home with? Call this number and we will come and get you. Guy or girl, it didn't matter. Follow these paths that we have clearly outlined for you while security is beefed up in other places, and still people choose to take short cuts that saved them maybe a few minutes and put their lives at risk. We did everything we could to prevent this from happening and it was as if they did everything they could to make something happened. Police have a negative stereotype and it frustrates me to no end when people ignore them when they are putting their lives on the line to save these people.
But lets get closer to the subject. I had my car broken into. Jacked up my dash taking out my radio. GF was driving it at the time and she forgot to lock my car door. I called the police and once they figured out my door wasn't locked they didn't do anything. It was my fault for not locking my doors and I had told my GF to make sure she locked them and she didn't. If my doors had been locked with my security alarm active my insurance and the police would have been a lot more helpful to me. And who knows, maybe the alarm would have scared them off and avoid the whole situation(broken window at the worse?).
I was personally shocked that the op didn't try to track their phone down. Lookout, plan b, he has insurance so the TEP app would have helped him to. I keep my phone on a belt holster. A few people have grabbed that holster when I was walking in crowded areas and without a quick reaction my phone would have been stolen. Before I had a holster one of my older smart devices fell from my pocket when I was playing games. None of the employees knew where it was. Used another customers smart phone to track mines down behind the employees desk and they just so happened to find it there. Last but not least, it is possible to be robbed and have your phone forcefully taken. You can't plan for every possible thing that could happen to your device. But you can get insurance and install at least one program to help track it down in the event that it is lost.
Any of could be where the OP is right now despite however much planning we do. I personally don't like the way the insurance is handling this. I would expect a loaner device during these times because it helps ease the pain of waiting. And of course the OP is mad at Sprint. They sold him the insurance that put him in this place. Wouldn't you be mad at me if I sold you something and it didn't work when you tried to use it? It should lower your trust in me despite the fact that I didn't have any control over what happened and it worked great for everyone I knew.
Hey guys, assuming all goes well I am going to buy a e4gt off someone from craigslist and was wondering what I should do to make sure it works 100% aside from checking the ESN (which I believe I can use an app to do right?) Any tips will be greatly appreciated!
Have them meet you at a Sprint store.
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I would say, the most important is making sure you can activate it. (making sure the esn is clean) not too sure if there's an app that can do that though. not to my knowledge. and of course make sure it turns on!! lol. check camera make sure lens aint scratched up. and anything software wise, wouldn't matter cause you could always factory reset everything.
Tip to not get ripped off: Don't buy it from Craigs List... just my advice
You have very limited legal recourse if something goes wrong. If you do insist on purchasing this device from some random person on CraigsList here are a few things I would do if I were you..
Print the listing of the device off of CraigsList and keep it for your personal records
Take a pen and some paper, you'll need this in reasons I'll mention later
Take someone with you to witness the transaction
Pay with cashiers check or money order
Get a receipt!!!!!!! Have the seller sign it along with your signature, make two copies, one for you and one for them. Get the person you take with you to write the documents and sign it as a witness
If you have to pay cash, make sure you have proof of withdrawing that amount from your bank, don't use an ATM
Ask to get a warranty ensuring fuctionality and ability to activate the phone in writing and have both parties sign the document, again not just verbally. Get the person you take with you to write the documents and sign it as a witness
Call Sprint to check the ESN, don't just rely on the app to check it
Make sure the seller can provide you with a valid ID so you can get their home address and other information just in case you MIGHT need the information later
Basically you want to protect yourself from being ripped off
By getting their personal information, you will know who to contact if you need to sue them in small claims court. The steps above will also help protect you in the case you do need to take them to court
If they're not willing to do any of the steps, you might want to consider backing off from making the purchase
Sure this might seem overkill, I think they are good steps to take though
I know this is going to sound funny or silly or what ever, most of the tips I have given I have learned from watching judge shows!!
Craigslist cases are on People's Court a lot
Dude wtf
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Thanks for the responses guys. I had written craigslist to keep things simple, but judging by how much the situation changes when its someone you don't know, to clarify I am buying it from someone I know who has a connection with someone else, so I essentially do have a guarantee for getting my money back.
I have purchased and sold so many things on craigslist and truthfully I have never gotten ripped off. One time I bought something that was defective but the person claimed they never knew and gave my money right back.
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I have purchased and sold so many things on craigslist and truthfully I have never gotten ripped off. One time I bought something that was defective but the person claimed they never knew and gave my money right back.
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Same here. I have bought and sold many of things on CL, and things usually go well, Although the post above with the suggestions is a good idea. It may seem like overkill, and some of it may be, but precaution is always best when dealing with CL, its sooo random.
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Tip to not get ripped off: Don't buy it from Craigs List... just my advice
You have very limited legal recourse if something goes wrong. If you do insist on purchasing this device from some random person on CraigsList here are a few things I would do if I were you..
Print the listing of the device off of CraigsList and keep it for your personal records
Take a pen and some paper, you'll need this in reasons I'll mention later
Take someone with you to witness the transaction
Pay with cashiers check or money order
Get a receipt!!!!!!! Have the seller sign it along with your signature, make two copies, one for you and one for them. Get the person you take with you to write the documents and sign it as a witness
If you have to pay cash, make sure you have proof of withdrawing that amount from your bank, don't use an ATM
Ask to get a warranty ensuring fuctionality and ability to activate the phone in writing and have both parties sign the document, again not just verbally. Get the person you take with you to write the documents and sign it as a witness
Call Sprint to check the ESN, don't just rely on the app to check it
Make sure the seller can provide you with a valid ID so you can get their home address and other information just in case you MIGHT need the information later
Basically you want to protect yourself from being ripped off
By getting their personal information, you will know who to contact if you need to sue them in small claims court. The steps above will also help protect you in the case you do need to take them to court
If they're not willing to do any of the steps, you might want to consider backing off from making the purchase
Sure this might seem overkill, I think they are good steps to take though
I know this is going to sound funny or silly or what ever, most of the tips I have given I have learned from watching judge shows!!
Craigslist cases are on People's Court a lot
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Hahahahahahaha is it me or the pay by check and receipt line definitely made me laugh... Thousands of transactions happen on Craigslist without an issue but the dozens that go through hit the web and the world is now afraid... I have sold a dozen or more phones on Craigslist without an issue. Just did a Iphone for a Galaxy 2 trade yesterday. Don't look like or act like a victim and have a little street smarts and you will be ok...
Surprise you did not ask them to fill out a W-9 for the sale.....LOL
I got my et4g on craigslist with no problems. The key is know what you are buying and to meet at a Sprint store. I got a near Mint one for 275 in the phx area. I didn't pay the guy till the service was on my phone either. First time getting a phone used and it was easy. Good luck
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Thought ill do this to help people that are thinking of sending their phone in for repair.
If its fast, if they do a good job etc..
I called up Samsung UK at 9am UK time 21/05/12 and told them what's wrong with it
This is what is wrong with it;
The screen pops out about quater of a MM on the bottom right
-The phone doesnt always charge when connected to the charger (this has happened about 5times within a month)
-The phone switches off randomly sometimes (This has happened about 3 times within a month)
-Sometimes when i remove the charging cable. On the screen it says charging/ disconnected continuously, If i wasnt aware of it, it would keep happening and burn my screen since the same image is on the screen none stop (This has happened 2 times within two weeks)
-If i shake my phone i hear a rattle sound on the upper back of the phone (This has been there since i bought the phone)
-The touch screen isnt as responsive from when i bought it (I have to take my finger off the screen and try again sometimes)
-WiFi and 3G stops working and i have to reboot my phone to be able to use it (This has happened countless of times)
Some of these faults only happen sometimes but they have happened more then once within a short period of time.
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Quite a lot right? lol. The women took it quite well haha.
They said the bag will be sent out within two working days with Royal Mail, and the repair will take from 5 to 10 working days. I have to send it with other information like proof of purchase contact details etc..
I asked what happens if they send it back and the same/ new faults are still there?
She said we will try and repair it again and if its no good on the 3rd try then they will send me a new one.
The call took about 20minutes. I was on hold for about 5minutes total.
So let the games begin.
ps I set this as my background for fun
LoL @ background!
hope they take care of it...
I got the package this morning around 11am while i was sleeping (i work nights) so i could of sent it today if some one woke me up -_-
Another thing.. the packaging they gave me is an utter joke.
Cheap bubble wrap thats about 2ft by 1ft and a plastic bag(envelope)
I used my own bubble wrap, cardboard, bubble wrap jiffy bag, some more bubble wrap then put it in the envelope with all the information they needed.
I think i over did it a bit but what can i say? Im a bit OCD on stuff like that lol.
I took lots of pictures of my phone so when they send it back to me.. if there is one mark that wasnt there before/ still has the same or new problems its going straight back.
I want to send it back three times because then they will send me a brand new one on the 3rd go haha.
I'm going to post it tomorrow morning.
Hope it works out for you.
You complained about a rattle when you shook your phone? Dude, you're nit picking.
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You complained about a rattle when you shook your phone? Dude, you're nit picking.
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I know. I'm trying to give them as many faults as possible to make it harder for them. I just want a new one cause the current one i have has problems.. i dont like repaired phones
My brother had an iphone4.. about 20days before the 1 year warranty ran out he went into the apple store and said the home button doesnt always work. The guy didnt even check it and gave him a brand new one.
I wish all companies had customer service like Apple... even if their products are meh.
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I know. I'm trying to give them as many faults as possible to make it harder for them. I just want a new one cause the current one i have has problems.. i dont like repaired phones
My brother had an iphone4.. about 20days before the 1 year warranty ran out he went into the apple store and said the home button doesnt always work. The guy didnt even check it and gave him a brand new one.
I wish all companies had customer service like Apple... even if their products are meh.
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lmao. You obviously don't know much about Apple customer service, it costs $99/year per device + $49/"incident". If you call 91 days after you purchase your device they won't even talk to you about your device/software or anything until you purchase the $99 service.
Every iPhone comes with one year of hardware repair coverage and 90 days of telephone technical support. AppleCare+ for iPhone extends repair coverage and technical support to two years from the original purchase date of your iPhone and adds coverage for up to two incidents of accidental damage due to handling, each subject to a $49 service fee.1 With AppleCare+ for iPhone, Apple experts can help troubleshoot issues over the phone or at an Apple Retail Store. They’ll answer questions about iOS, Apple iPhone apps such as Mail, iMessage, and Calendar, and help you solve interconnectivity issues between your iPhone and Mac or PC. And if your iPhone needs service under the plan, Apple technical support representatives can even set up a repair during the same call.
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http://store.apple.com/us/product/APP_IPHONE_PLUS_AUTO-110480
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lmao. You obviously don't know much about Apple customer service, it costs $99/year per device + $49/"incident". If you call 91 days after you purchase your device they won't even talk to you about your device/software or anything until you purchase the $99 service.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/APP_IPHONE_PLUS_AUTO-110480
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My mom called at day 96. If you act like you now nothing about this then they might let it slide. She got a new phone free somehow.
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lmao. You obviously don't know much about Apple customer service, it costs $99/year per device + $49/"incident". If you call 91 days after you purchase your device they won't even talk to you about your device/software or anything until you purchase the $99 service.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/APP_IPHONE_PLUS_AUTO-110480
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I'm in the UK so its probably different over here.. no?
My brother didn't spend anything extra on the phone... just the phone itself.
Maybe you don't know much about Apples customer service?
I know Americans get f'ed a lot on phones.
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I know. I'm trying to give them as many faults as possible to make it harder for them. I just want a new one cause the current one i have has problems.. i dont like repaired phones
My brother had an iphone4.. about 20days before the 1 year warranty ran out he went into the apple store and said the home button doesnt always work. The guy didnt even check it and gave him a brand new one.
I wish all companies had customer service like Apple... even if their products are meh.
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I did something like this back when I had the 3GS. I waited until I decided I was buying the Nexus One, went to the Apple store and said the battery wasn't working correctly. The guy went in the back and came out with a brand new phone which went on Craigslist immediately after.
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I did something like this back when I had the 3GS. I waited until I decided I was buying the Nexus One, went to the Apple store and said the battery wasn't working correctly. The guy went in the back and came out with a brand new phone which went on Craigslist immediately after.
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Its quite funny.
The best thing is that the iPhone doesnt devalue much.
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My mom called at day 96. If you act like you now nothing about this then they might let it slide. She got a new phone free somehow.
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I'm in the UK so its probably different over here.. no?
My brother didn't spend anything extra on the phone... just the phone itself.
Maybe you don't know much about Apples customer service?
I know Americans get f'ed a lot on phones.
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One year hardware warrantee, 90 day tech support via phone. Which leaves much to be desired IMO. Almost all products offer 1yr hardware support, Android does not charge $99/yr to help you diagnose a problem over the phone. Imo saying Apple has superior customer service is so assbackards it borders on mentally challenged. As far as what I personally know about Apple and their CS, I've been an Apple device owner for years, same for Android. Both have good qualities, both have poor qualities. But I have no delusions of which are which. I'm not going off somebody else's experience, somebody who as far as I am concerned (since we don't have an XDA username for them) has no credibility on this forum. I posted the link and quote directly from Apples website, it's kind of hard to disagree with that, and if either of you would have actually read it you would have seen that hardware is warranted for 1yr.
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One year hardware warrantee, 90 day tech support via phone. Which leaves much to be desired IMO. Almost all products offer 1yr hardware support, Android does not charge $99/yr to help you diagnose a problem over the phone. Imo saying Apple has superior customer service is so assbackards it borders on mentally challenged. As far as what I personally know about Apple and their CS, I've been an Apple device owner for years, same for Android. Both have good qualities, both have poor qualities. But I have no delusions of which are which. I'm not going off somebody else's experience, somebody who as far as I am concerned (since we don't have an XDA username for them) has no credibility on this forum. I posted the link and quote directly from Apples website, it's kind of hard to disagree with that, and if either of you would have actually read it you would have seen that hardware is warranted for 1yr.
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The phone wasnt repaired. You go off of your experiance and ill go off of my own
Anyway.. lets ditch this Apple talk.. and stick with Samsung.
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The phone wasnt repaired. You go off of your experiance and ill go off of my own
Anyway.. lets ditch this Apple talk.. and stick with Samsung.
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You mean i go off my experience and you'll go off your brothers experience. You quoted me quoting Apple about the "repair" thing btw, just follow the link and see for yourself, that's what is written on Apples website.
Sure we will drop the Apple talk, just thinking about AppleCare pisses me off, don't know why anyone would prefer it.
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You mean i go off my experience and you'll go off your brothers experience. You quoted me quoting Apple about the "repair" thing btw, just follow the link and see for yourself, that's what is written on Apples website.
Sure we will drop the Apple talk, just thinking about AppleCare pisses me off, don't know why anyone would prefer it.
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well me and my dad was with him so its basically my own experiance too..
I dont see why anyone would buy extended warranty .. its a rip off.
btw just one hour and i can post my phone =O
That was my whole reasoning, I don't see why anyone would rather HAVE to pay for the extended, much less pay for phone support during the normal warrantee period. Hopefully you are more than satisfied with your new device, I will be asleep in an hour but I'll come check it out tomorrow.
Sent it!
I'm using my mums HTC wildfire for now lol
Curious to see how it goes - Samsung USA wouldn't accept my European GN to repair a broken screen...not even for money. I may have to send it back to Europe to get it fixed.
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Curious to see how it goes - Samsung USA wouldn't accept my European GN to repair a broken screen...not even for money. I may have to send it back to Europe to get it fixed.
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That sucks. How much does it cost to ship over to.. lets say the UK
Still haven't received it yet
I think it should come today or tomorrow.
Hello, pls see my story below: - Anything I can do by tracking the IMEI ? etc ?
MY STORY -------
I was robbed on craigslist, NYC MIDTOWN?
To sum it up:
I was robbed by a con artist on craigslist pretending to buy my phone.
I sold many things on craigslist in the past, high end and small end. Whatever..
I posted an ad to sell my Samsung galaxt s3 tmobile phone for $540, and the buyer called with 1 number and ask if Its available and that his wife saw the ad and hes buying it for her. Then he asks me if I’m a business and I said no. Then he said he will call me back and I said ok.
He called again in a few minutes and said hes interested and asked my location and he will be coming so I said ok , I gave him location, on park avenue and 58th street at TD BANK. When he got there he was driving was in his car so I got him to show him the phone.
He asked nicely if I can just go with him to tmobile store around the area to make sure the phone is not stolen so I said okay sure. Its 2-3 blocks away. We was driving and he was telling me this whole store how he and his daughter went to check out a phone and after he bought it the phone turns out to be stolen and it took him a week to return it back to the seller and such and he thanked me for going with him to the store.
Finally, we parked RIGHT in front of the tmobile store by a fire hydrant. He asked if I can watch his car while he goes in to make sure its legit and to activate his simcard for the phone so I said ok pls make it quick. He went in for a few minutes and I was wondering what if this car is stolen ? or he ran away ? anyways so I took a peak and saw him on the line and speaking to the representative so I thought okay its cool. He came out and said something is not working and if I could go and talk to her, so I can ok.
I was in the passenger seat , now the keys are in the car. He ask if I can turn off the car so I turn it off and I took the keys with me when he said he needs to get something real quick and go in first, I went in for less than a minute. LESS THAN A MINUTE OR 1 MINUTE!!! Then I turned around and POOF!
HE IS GONE…. HE IS GONE!! I got scammed and wow, I was shocked and laughing.. I tried running up the block but his car is nowhere to be found!
I called the cops and gave a report, waiting for a call back from the detectives hopefully.
I have received a call back from 1 of his numbers he called me with , and it was lady claiming she don’t know what happen. I have a feeling she is linked to him, I don’t know.
What should I do now ? What can I do ? I want to catch this sucker!
His appearance:
Age 19-25
Skin: Dark / Tone
Nationality: Hispanic Hair: Curly hair Attire:
He was dressed in a white button up with dress dark khankis or dress pants and shoes
. ( his attire indeed let my guard down )
Tattoo: He had a tattoo on his right hand
Name he goes by: Andy , Jason , Alex , Alec -
His accent is a bit weird.
Numbers he is using: 917-549-9112 347-340-6348
these other numbers were called from a phone store with demo phones or something: 718-733-7119 646-296-3081
Regards,
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Another victim's story, happened before I got robbed-
Has anyone gone through this? I got robbed on craigslist?
Postby hawly » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:20 pm
Ok here's how this went. I was selling a samsung galaxy s III (for about $500) on craigslist. I live in queens, NYC, so I arranged for the exchange in midtown manhattan. I drove there with my bro and parked my car in a parking lot. The guy who i was selling to, arrived in a family van with his 2 year old daughter. He wanted me to drive down the street to the "Fossil" store where his "wife" worked at as she was "the one he was buying the phone for". Seeing his daughter, his demeanor, as well as the fact that we were in a heavily populated area, I thought nothing of it. He seemed like a reasonable person.
We get to the fossil store, he asks me if I can go to the driver's seat as he goes into the store to speak to his "wife" in case cops request for the car to be moved. At this point, his 2 yr old daughter and I are in the car alone. He asks me if I can give him the phone so that his wife can test it out. I say fine as I have his car and his kid is in the car. He comes back later and says he's having a problem testing out the phone. He asks me If I can check it out. I say no problem, I step out of the car, turn off the car and hold the keys with me (the keys also included 4 other keys). All of a sudden, he disappears literally into thin air. I take a few steps to look around. This is 7th ave manhattan, so there's alot of people walking up and down. I then turn around, and boom...car is gone. All happened within 1 minute. Literally, 1 Minute. I literally started laughing in amazement.
I am not one to get scammed..very rarely have i been in a fraud situation. I've seen everything...but This.
How could a guy use an innocent little kid to scam people? Is this a new Craigslist scam? I am being reimbursed for the phone by my credit card company as they cover theft. What do you take of this?
is this for real?
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is this for real?
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Yes.
I know it might look confusing and have typos and such but I am so heated and still cant believe I was conned like that. Its just shocking!
I went to the precinct on my lunch break to give the cops more details and that other post I found a day earlier of my incident indicating the same pattern of crime.
Its the same guy!!
new member first posts sounds weird but still it was a entertaining read whether real or fake
why would you let him out of 2 feet if he has your phone, you let this happen to yourself learn a lesson from it
this is a reason why I never sell phones on Craiglist, I always sell them on Ebay is more secured and no way for you to get scammed, I have seen a couple of friends that actually sold their phones and got fake $100.00 dollar bills, with Ebay you get backed up by paypal.
Sounds like some next level ninja sh!t, I hope by some strain of luck you get your S3 back.
Get Chance and Luck
This is happening more and more!
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why would you let him out of 2 feet if he has your phone, you let this happen to yourself learn a lesson from it
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What caught me was maybe the office attire, the area and the fact i had his keys...
It was pretty good scam.....
I have up to date, sold over 500 phones just on craigs...
Sucks... Lesson Learned, gotta be alert... Luckily he didnt have a gun to my head..
sniper1087 said:
this is a reason why I never sell phones on Craiglist, I always sell them on Ebay is more secured and no way for you to get scammed, I have seen a couple of friends that actually sold their phones and got fake $100.00 dollar bills, with Ebay you get backed up by paypal.
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if a customer on ebay, insists to their credit card that they did not purchase the item. I think they can get away with it just as easy like how this happened to me, however this guy took a lot of time to develop his scheme..
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if a customer on ebay, insists to their credit card that they did not purchase the item. I think they can get away with it just as easy like how this happened to me, however this guy took a lot of time to develop his scheme..
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That's why PayPal has certified mailing addresses tied to the account. It's a way to track someone down...
You do realize that you can reverse lookup his telephone numbers right?
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why would you let him out of 2 feet if he has your phone, you let this happen to yourself learn a lesson from it
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There's always one " **** wouldn't happen to me" Superman!
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If you still have the box that you got the phone in you can ask T-Mobile to block the IMEI. That way it's useless to him.
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You morons need to stop being so cheap and use ebay and just pay the damn auction fees. That is why they guarantee their buyer and seller protection.
Now you don't have a phone, I would never trust Craigslist for selling or buying anything.
Also why would you get into a car with a stranger? Why not just say go park and I will meet you at the store?
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try plan b or prey
Ask T-Mobile or Samsung if they can track
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CRAIGS LIST IS WHERE THE PROCESSED GO TO MINGLE. It has perverts, murderers, cons, and thiefs, and much more crime that you have never even heard of. STAY AWAY from that worthless site.
You got some real balls to get in a strangers car anyway, you are lucky you are here even posting this stupid message.
Good luck, cost you $500+ to find out.
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There's always one " **** wouldn't happen to me" Superman!
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What? It's common sense. If I'm selling on CL the person doesn't even get to touch the phone unless they're in the middle of me and a friend on the street or sitting down inside somewhere.
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That's why you meet up and it's either buy it on the spot or go buy else where. No taking it to show his "wife" bull****
Craigslist - Not even once.
lol... wow... I've sold tons of phones on cl. Never this happened to me. But then again I live in Virginia, where its legal to open carry a gun. And anytime I have a item for sale and someone wants to buy it, when we meet up they always notice that I'm not one to scam or rob.
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