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so my phone i bought off craigslist is blacklisted. what do i doo? can i delete the efs folder and it will work? or like unlock it and it will work on att? what do i do!?
You may be stuck. Did you get any type of proof of purchase off the person. Anyway to prove you bought it from a legitimate owner?
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i bought it off craigslist so i have to proof and the person wont pick up. what do i do!?
Without being able to prove you bought the phone in a legit deal probably nothing. Craigslist is full of this. I also got my phone from craigslist but had the guy meet me at a t mobile store and got a t mobile rep to verify the transaction.
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You may be stuck. There have been three other posts that I can remember about same thing happening. Unless you can providetmobile that you bought it feom that perso. And show he purchased it and didnt steal it, they may be able to take it off blacklist.
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i bought it off craigslist so i have to proof and the person wont pick up. what do i do!?
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chib1panda said:
You may be stuck. There have been three other posts that I can remember about same thing happening. Unless you can providetmobile that you bought it feom that perso. And show he purchased it and didnt steal it, they may be able to take it off blacklist.
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Something i have been wondering lately... So far, i have only seen documents of the sk4g (my own personal experience) and gs2 being blacklisted. Do all phones now qualify? Only samsung?
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Good job, admitting to insurance fraud on a public board...
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Good job, admitting to insurance fraud on a public board...
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^ hahaha
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There is one of three reasons you're blacklisted.
The phone was reported lost/stolen to Asurion and a claim was made.
The phone is a T-Mobile demo device that was stolen.
It was purchased on a Value plan and the customer defaulted on the bill.
You can try tinkering with the efs but no idea what trouble that will get you in or if that works on the GS2. If you can find the craigslist ad or money order receipt they may reverse it but it might have to go to risk assessment and take awhile.
ungarisch said:
WTF??? blacklist? there is no such thing, I'm currently using a GS2 that was "lost" by my GF, claimed on insurance, and "found" by me.
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I was wondering if they considered a difference between lost and stolen. But again, i was told they blacklist for reasons that directly affect them - fraud, theft from a store, or not making payments.
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I thought asurion required that you file a police report if you told them someone stole it before they filed your claim? If you say its lost and found it later they may not blacklist it assuming that most people will . I have heard that at times asurion will allow you to keep your found phone if you claim lost then found it later. Not 100% sure on that.
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I was wondering if they considered a difference between lost and stolen. But again, i was told they blacklist for reasons that directly affect them - fraud, theft from a store, or not making payments.
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i change any phone imei before using it.
who cares blacklist or not, it is censorship, same as SOPA and PIPA.
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I thought asurion required that you file a police report if you told them someone stole it before they filed your claim? If you say its lost and found it later they may not blacklist it assuming that most people will . I have heard that at times asurion will allow you to keep your found phone if you claim lost then found it later. Not 100% sure on that.
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Yep. I have a manager friend at a T-Mobile store who advised me and others to NEVER report stolen.
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cgigate said:
i change any phone imei before using it.
who cares blacklist or not, it is censorship, same as SOPA and PIPA.
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Lol
I wasnt sure you existed
yeah I don't think tmobile or asurion will blacklist a phone if it was lost because if found, it can still be used. However, if someone purposely stole a phone from a store/person, then it would be blacklisted. Not 100% sure but sounds about right.
well the phone is brand new condition. no scratches nothing. you think ill be able to sell it for only $200?
no, keep it as a tablet, or file a police report, and hope to get your money back
Don't sell it or your just as bad as the person who sold it to you
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Don't sell it or your just as bad as the person who sold it to you
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true statement.unless you tell the person exactly the situation the phone is in.maybe a developer can use it
From a glaxay better than yours.
AllGamer said:
no, keep it as a tablet, or file a police report, and hope to get your money back
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Seconded like in every other fraud or stolen phone thread
Long story short...my wife as a NS4g and has had intermittent data connection problems ever since buying it. Finally decided to start taking it in to Best Buy(has Black Tie ins). Currently on 3rd or 4th phone and they all have the same issue. She's ready to jump ship but I thought about finding a used Epic on Ebay or something similar that I know is solid. If I can find one for around 150$ refurbed is that a good route and how trustworthy is it? There's a long wait for the next upgrade and I don't think paying for something that isn't reliable is a good idea.
Thoughts?
Id look for one that has a good esn that'll cost you around 150$ or so. Hope you find what your looking for. If push comes to shove buy a bad esn and you'll have to flash it to cricket, although not all the bad esn's are very reliable. If anything stick to a good clean esn. =]
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Id look for one that has a good esn that'll cost you around 150$ or so. Hope you find what your looking for. If push comes to shove buy a bad esn and you'll have to flash it to cricket, although not all the bad esn's are very reliable. If anything stick to a good clean esn. =]
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Thanks for the input. I definitely don't want to run into flashing it to another provider. I'm too stubborn to roll on Sprint yet.
Make sure the seller states a Good ESN and has a 7 day return policy.
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Make sure the seller states a Good ESN and has a 7 day return policy.
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This..
ebay is always kinda sketchy for buying phones, but if you look at the seller's rating, and the return policy, you should be good to go.
Hey guys, phones with bad esn still can use wifi right? I got my girl using a samsyng moment with wifi n textfree since her parents won't buy her a sell phone lol, I figured I should upgrade her
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You cannot use one with a bad esn on Sprint. You can use wifi services and music and stuff but nothing on the Sprint network. It could be flashed to some other carriers.
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I got mine on ebay for about 130 or so, rock solid but a couple of scratches on the screen, a few months later though the front camera went out (probably my fault) and got the screen replaced for 30 bucks, so basically a new phone completely
You can try Swappa.com I seen some Epics listed there.
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i would look local first b4 trying online, look for places the sell/buy used phones. check them 1st.
I might be the luckiest person ever. I found a T-Mobile Galaxy S3.
Anyways, can I get in trouble for using the phone? Can T-Mobile somehow track the phone and disable it.
Thanks for your answers.
P.S. The phone has no contact store, so I can't really return it to the owner. The only dialed number is a company.
Go to t mobile store and return it. They will use IMEI to find the owner. If the owner report it stolen tmobile will black list the phone and you may not be able to use it anyway.
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You're not the luckiest person ever. You're a dishonest person who's trying to keep something that's not theirs. Do what the person above me said and contact T-Mobile.
I'd really like to hear how you "found" it.
Just replace the Sim card and use it. Founder keeper. Loser file insurance claim.
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ill buy it from you for $100 bucks
You "found" it lmao..
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Thank for you response
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Thanks
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I'll buy it from you for $200 even after t-mobile has the imei black listed *my secret*
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sarajlija said:
I might be the luckiest person ever. I found a T-Mobile Galaxy S3.
Anyways, can I get in trouble for using the phone? Can T-Mobile somehow track the phone and disable it.
Thanks for your answers.
P.S. The phone has no contact store, so I can't really return it to the owner. The only dialed number is a company.
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What is wrong with you? Return the damn phone. Don't be a loser, thief, lowlife. Do the right thing. Stealing is stealing. Good grief. Is that how your mom raised you? Sad....
toanau said:
Just replace the Sim card and use it. Founder keeper. Loser file insurance claim.
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I hope someone steals an expensive item near and dear to you. We clearly understand your lack of morality. Karma is a *****.
The damn entitlement generation on display. Dumb, greedy, lazy, self centered kids. Just what this world needs more of.
I have witnessed this in forum after forum. Thieves that are too stupid to know what they are doing are coming to the Internet begging for us to help them with their heist. Pathetic.
It won't work after black listed so be careful I would try to take it to tmobile store to
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I am really surprised at all of the responses from people suggesting yuo should keep the phone or better yet, sell it to them! That is really the worst advice anyone can offer, what the hell are you guys thinking? It's dishonest and kind of sh..tty to suggest that they should keep the phone and hope the owner had insurance... if that's how you live your life, I am hope I don't live nearby you - - Karma my friends - the best thing to do would be to return the phone to any T MOBILE Store - what would you want them to do if it was your phone?
the poor soul who lost his/her galaxy s3 is probably pulling there hair and gouging there eyes out by now... so sad...
If I had found this phone, I would do everything in my power to get it back to its owner. When the owner finally gets reunited with the phone I doubt they would leave you walking empty handed however even if they do at least you know you have done a very amazing deed.
Who knows someday you may lose something and some generous soul will return your lost item to you. :angel:
Oh my feelings are hurt by all these strangers judging me online. Why don't you people believe me hehe
I think, I will just keep the phone on for a couple days and hopefully the owner will call
What the hell man, leave the phone in a T-Mobile store.
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so if the phone still has a sim card and it works, just return the phone to tmobile and they will track the number and they could see who it belongs to!
do something great, people will do the same to you.
I agree with everyones (some) responses. I found a iPhone 4S with a pink case. I was able to get ahold of the owner (beautiful girl) and she cried and gave me so many thank yous. She offered $50 but i declined it. If i ever lose my baby (gs3) ...I would hope someone would do the same. Return the phone man..
My insurance was canceled....if I were to lose my phone I'd have to pay full price for a new one. I couldn't afford another Siii.
Return it to Tmo as has been suggested. To do anything less is theft.
If it was my phone, I would activate the mobile security app on the phone and track you down and then the police would arrest you for stealing my phone. But that's just me. By the way, mobile security comes free on most t mobile phones with the correct insurance. I wouldn't risk being labeled as a thief, even if you did somehow "find" it.
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It won't work after black listed so be careful I would try to take it to tmobile store to
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I can make a black listed phone from t-mobile work again with t-mobile not gonna say how but it's possible ....
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Of i report my Galaxy S2 lost, will they lock the phone when I use my insurance for a replacement? And what if I don't want them to lock it
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How bout you just flat out buy a replacement?
Don't scam dude. Makes it harder for honest customers to get help when actually need it...
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I know what you trying to do. Karma is a bi.....
Stevesteve64 said:
Of i report my Galaxy S2 lost, will they lock the phone when I use my insurance for a replacement? And what if I don't want them to lock it
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That's called insurance fraud what your doing. Technically its a felony.
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I think the guy just asked a question about what would happen. But yes, this is insurance fraud and if you get caught doing this you're slapped with a felony. I'd advise you not to do it.
They would more than likely block the old IMEI anyways since they have it in their database and the old phone becomes a paperweight MP3 player.
TL;DR : The risks are too high and the outcome is too little and more than likely to backfire. Be legit about it.
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Straight Answer
Once a device is replaced using insurance or warranty, they will blacklist the IMEI so that it can't be used again on the network in the event that they don't actually receive it.
If a device is reported lost, they blacklist the IMEI immediately and you go about processing your claim.
There is nothing you can do to prevent this, it's automatic, that phone will be blacklisted, no exceptions. If it's found, to whitelist the IMEI again, you have to go through insurance, which will promptly send out a return kit for said device.
You can't ask questions like this on here. This isn't the place for stealing, scamming or anything not legal. This thread will be closed by an administrator
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So a couple weeks ago you were on here asking to buy a T989 to replace your Amaze because you wanted a bigger screen, It appears that you decided to buy it new thinking you can just scam the insurance thing and not actually have to pay for it, or get a second one for free. Not saying you are doing this, just that it appears pretty darn shady when seeing this post along with your previous post a couple weeks ago asking to buy one.
As said above, insurance fraud is a felony but honestly go ahead and report it stolen, wait a few days and call TMO and tell them you bought a used phone. Give them all the info on it they ask for, go ahead, or try to sell it. The buyer will find out it was an insurance scam and TMO knows it's connected to you. Who knows you might(not a chance) have a lucky one that didn't get blacklisted. In reality, I will ROFL when the police show up at your door with an arrest warrant, and they will...but go for it, see what happens. It may be multiple serious federal charges. If you bought it online and it was mailed to you via USPS, they will add the charges of Felony Mail Fraud for USPS shipping, and Felony Wire Fraud for ordering it online. If you bought it in the store then you can expect Retail Fraud to be added.
Let us know how that works out for ya.
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You're not gonna get a lot if helpful responses on XDA when you ask a question pertaining to something illegal.
The forum rules clearly state that these topics are not allowed to be discussed, and no one wants to risk getting banned or even worse the site getting in trouble..
I personally don't care what you do but please take it somewhere else
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So I might be purchasing a new phone through Craigslist, the guy doesn't have a receipt but claims to work for T-Mobile, and has the phone bought out right paid in full... If I just go to a T-Mobile and have them check the IMEI and the dudes plan, they can pull a receipt for him and me showing that it is paid up correct? Also, how can I go about preventing him from calling it in stolen or lost, and then me having a IMEI corrupted phone? Any word of advice fellas?
He will have to be present to give them permission to access his account. Then he will have to ask for the specific info and let you view it with him.
Then ask a store employee, not him, to remove the s3 from his account and make note of it in yours.
Make sure you view either an e-receipt, or his last two phone bills. Check if he's paying on an eip.
This is just what common sense would tell me to do. Not sure if there's an actual transfer of ownership they can do or what. But I would have to be highly satisfied with the info before handing over my cash!
Its a little extreme, but you could have a bill of sale written up, kinda like when you buy a car from an individual.
Just be comfortable with the situation and seller. It doesn't matter what steps you take, if he does something to get it blacklisted, you'll have no recourse w tmobile I don't think.
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He will have to be present to give them permission to access his account. Then he will have to ask for the specific info and let you view it with him.
Then ask a store employee, not him, to remove the s3 from his account and make note of it in yours.
Make sure you view either an e-receipt, or his last two phone bills. Check if he's paying on an eip.
This is just what common sense would tell me to do. Not sure if there's an actual transfer of ownership they can do or what. But I would have to be highly satisfied with the info before handing over my cash!
Its a little extreme, but you could have a bill of sale written up, kinda like when you buy a car from an individual.
Just be comfortable with the situation and seller. It doesn't matter what steps you take, if he does something to get it blacklisted, you'll have no recourse w tmobile I don't think.
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Almost exactly what I asked from him and the second I did ask, he backed out and said its too complicated and furthermore removed the post from CL... I didn't think about the last two bills but will if I decide to try again on another seller. Doubt I will though. Will just wait to see if someone buys my s3 or til next paycheck. Thanks Doc.
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mt3g said:
Almost exactly what I asked from him and the second I did ask, he backed out and said its too complicated and furthermore removed the post from CL... I didn't think about the last two bills but will if I decide to try again on another seller. Doubt I will though. Will just wait to see if someone buys my s3 or til next paycheck. Thanks Doc.
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Lol he ran away. Can't trust people
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daxecutioner24 said:
Lol he ran away. Can't trust people
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I don't haha.
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Yeah total scammer. Be careful bro, try Swappa.com
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TheLastSidekick said:
Yeah total scammer. Be careful bro, try Swappa.com
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I'm in az and I personally carry so not too worried. Most wouldn't do a thing if the situation arises to it, all sneaky crack heads lol.
People are super sketch though,I had a conversation yesterday with the person not wanting to meet up at a T-Mobile and wanting my address to come buy my phone lol, they refused the idea of meeting public haha. Ya I resorted to just wanting to buy it at a store instead now. Still wanna sell the s3 though.
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I'm in az and I personally carry so not too worried. Most wouldn't do a thing if the situation arises to it, all sneaky crack heads lol.
People are super sketch though,I had a conversation yesterday with the person not wanting to meet up at a T-Mobile and wanting my address to come buy my phone lol, they refused the idea of meeting public haha. Ya I resorted to just wanting to buy it at a store instead now. Still wanna sell the s3 though.
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Like I said lol, definitely try Swappa.com
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Like I said lol, definitely try Swappa.com
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I might sell the s3 over swappa, I will definitely look into posting it there next week if need be. Thanks.
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