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Hi,
I have my contacts stored in Exchange.
I have - obviously - also a MOTOBLUR-Account that Motorola forced on me upon activation that I do not intend to use and a google-Account for the market.
Now, when I create a new contact on my defy, I can not choose wether to create it in MOTOBLUR or Exchange or have it in my google account, it is automatically created in all three and all three sets of data are joined together.
So as I only want to have the Exchange contact, everytime I create a new contact, I do have to un-join the contacts and delete the MOTOBLUR and google contact manually.
That is in my eyes a mayor design flaw.
I do NOT want my phone to store my data in some suspicious cloud service that has been forced upon me in the first place.
Is there a way to create a contact specifically in the Exchange and NOT in Motoblur / google?
Or would I have to use a different contact manager app? Any recommendations then?
That also allows me to query the global adress book of Exchange (which the standard app apparently can't).
I'd be grateful for any tipps and help,
southy
I've been bothered by this issue too. It would be the most intuitive to be able to select in which account(s) a contact should be created at the time it is created.
But there is a different way to accomplish similar, but it's a global setting. In Settings->Accounts you can specify which items (contacts, calendar, e-mail) are to be synched with a given account. Well, for all BUT the MotoBlur account ;(, and because it's a global setting I have not yet examined the full ramification of it, and it's a kludge; what if one would like to synch some of the contacts with all accounts, but others with just one or two, but it's at least something.
BTW, I have not tried other paid (some are quite expensive) Exchange clients, but the free ones don't come even close to the Email app that's included on the Defy. If you find one that may be worth spending money, let us know.
Hi,
thanks for your feedback, that way I can at least disable the google-Account completely (which is only configured for the market access).
That leaves motoblur.
Regarding the Exchange clients: Yes, I would actually be willing to pay for one, but have yet not found one that really satisfies me.
I have tested Touchdown (from nitrodesk) for some time now but didn't buy it:
In general it was pretty good, there's just one problem: There is no way to deactivate notifications (new mail) at nights. As I use my mobile as alarm clock, I can't turn the sound completely off and so it tends to wake me up with new mail at night.
That's really annoying.
Actually it's pretty strange that they didn't implement something that basic - as there are very unusual other notification settings. The whole configuration in fact is somewhat overwhelming because sometimes you can configure the same thing on more than one location.
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Or would I have to use a different contact manager app? Any recommendations then? That also allows me to query the global adress book of Exchange (which the standard app apparently can't).
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Maybe because I'm on the T-Mo USA 2.2.1 ROM, but in my Email app, when I'm entering letters into the <To> field, all matching names from the Exchange Address Book are being dynamically displayed. Not the same as browsing all of the Address Book and choosing one address, but good enough for me (I work in a relatively small organization). Doesn't yours do that?
Hi,
thanks for your reply,
I don't use the standard mail client any more. I stopped using it rather soon after I bought the Defy.
I just tried to figure out why, but sorry, I can't remember. But I remember that it was a rather important reason, because I started trying TouchDown as first alternative client and TD is such a pain to configure that it took me days.
I must have had a damn good reason to stick to trying.
But you are aware that there is a difference between personal contacts I store in exchange (which are synced with the mobile) and the global adress book of Exchange?
The global adress book is the complete dictionary of a company, AFAIK normally connected to the Active Directory-Accounts of the employees, which is centrally managed.
You can not sync it to your device, you can just search in it and pick a result.
Could it be you mixed those up?
Thanks anyway,
southy
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But you are aware that there is a difference between personal contacts I store in exchange (which are synced with the mobile) and the global adress book of Exchange?
The global adress book is the complete dictionary of a company, AFAIK normally connected to the Active Directory-Accounts of the employees, which is centrally managed.
You can not sync it to your device, you can just search in it and pick a result.
Could it be you mixed those up?
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You are welcome, and no, no mixup. In the <To> field, if I press the <search> icon, it gives me the list of my contacts (stored locally on the phone); but, if I start typing into the field, the Global Address Book (on the Exchange Server) is dynamically searched and displayed as I type.
Hi Mars,
thanks for clearing this up and sorry I suspected you to mix things up.
Good to hear the stock app can use the global adress book - I never tried that before switching to another client.
However I guess I might completely revert back to the original app soon in order to get rid of all alternative clients - I tried TD and wasn't convinced, now I got Moxier installed and suddenly my contacts don't sync anymore - no idea why.
It seems I should just stick with the preinstalled stuff even though it's not good.
Or perhaps get a blackberry.
ups. Did I really say that?
Touchdown is brilliant - been using it for long time. the BEST!
With reference to the original quesition; when you create a contact you CAN chose which cateogry it should go in. In contacts, chose settings and uncheck the cateogry you do NOT want the account to go in to. This way you can uncheck google (or multiple google accounts). When you create a contact it will not be assinged to a google category and therefore not sync with online google contacts
Of course touchdown keeps its contacts seprate but the above is very usful for your own personal contacts. I have all sorts of sync going on and am very confident that ONLY the info i want on the internet goes to the internet.
Motoblur: I dont use it - never have. You canbypass this at setup time.
Ref sync: worth playing with settings > accounts and also contacts > settings - very useful
Hi jeanluc,
that's interesting - I just realised i had never actually created a contact out of TD, but always out of the stock "contact search" app.
Sorry for judging too quick.
However, after 20 mins of using TD contacts, I can't say I like it.
but whatever. I just tried generating a new contact and it worked and got synced to exchange.
But when I open the stock contact app, curiously enough, the contact has not been present for ~30minutes - apaprently TD maintains a second adressbook apart from the builtin which has only been synced later.
Well I seem to have lost the overview what syncs to what here...
But back to the point, you are completely correct, when I generate the contact out of TD, it only is being created in Exchange and nowhere else.
However - and please, please forgive such ignorance - I have just tried that and find it so very un-intuitive that I will keep on searching for a decent contact app.
This is my comments after only 15 minutes of trying TD contact:
Problems with creating a contact:
- the adress fields are not labeled. where goes the street, where the city, where the postcode?
Problems in TD contact in general:
- seperate contact database apart from the built in
- no pictures of contacts are being displayed
- search function not as quick reachable as stock apps
But there's also a plus:
- searching in global adress book (Exchange) works and even returns a phone number, not only the e-mail.
one last thing:
Ref sync: worth playing with settings > accounts and also contacts > settings - very useful
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"contacts -> settings": I am searching for such a settings dialogue the whole time - but I can't find it (to check how and when the stock android contacts sync to my exchange - as this is apparently a seperate thing apart from TD sync).
But I can't find those settings. I only find "settings -> accounts" but there I can only define the user credentials, not the sync process (frequency, manual trigger,...)
Can you point me to the correct place, please?
Thanks!
Settings for sync of built-in adressbook with Exchange:
found it!
Overview:
If you just want to sync contacs (& calendar) because maybe you do not use the stock mail client for Exchange, you need to:
1. settings -> accounts -> <your corporate account> -> uncheck "e-mail"
2. messages -> message settings -> e-mail -> mail delivery
Yes, it sounds strange to configure the adressbook sync in "messages" as I did deactivate that account for e-mail before, but apparently that's the way it is...
Maybe you should flash Orange of Finnish rom, that doesn't have blur registration at all?
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Settings for sync of built-in adressbook with Exchange:
found it!
Overview:
If you just want to sync contacs (& calendar) because maybe you do not use the stock mail client for Exchange, you need to:
1. settings -> accounts -> <your corporate account> -> uncheck "e-mail"
2. messages -> message settings -> e-mail -> mail delivery
Yes, it sounds strange to configure the adressbook sync in "messages" as I did deactivate that account for e-mail before, but apparently that's the way it is...
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Hi Southy
I dont actually create contats in TD as these are work contats and am happy for them to be pushed down from outlook/exchange which Im using constantly
I love TD - it does everytihng that I need
I also Android contacts for personal information and manage to keep that isolated from the internet.
I sync my personal calendar wth internet (google) as it doenst contain anything confidential but i suppose if you wanted to you could stop that at the calendar level but still allow another google calendar to sync - that way you view both google calendars on the phone but only one syncs (for this you need to enable calendar sync in settings>accounts but disable calendar sync for the specific calendar in the calendar application
Note: Worth rememering that a lot of sync software (missing sync, TD etc) will create an account on the phone which is accessible via settings>accounts. Always worth checkign whats created here and what functionality it provides as far as modifying sync is concertned
NOTE1: Are allyour questions answered now or are you still waiting for something?
Hi,
I just switched from Desire to Galaxy Nexus and I'm desesperatly looking for the way to get access to the corporate directory (I have configured the Exchange account and sync okay emails, contacts and calendar).
Anyone found the way to get this?
Thank you.
Global address list? When I start typing a name in a new email it pops up matches from the list
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I'd love to know where to find the settings for my work email address. They make us use outlook web access.
I use Corporate Addressbook. Haven't tested if it works on the Galaxy Nexus though.
I use touchdown exchange. So much better than any built in exchange. Worth the money plus my company's security requirements are only applied to the app. I don't need a password just to get into the phone. Global address book works great.
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I'd love to know where to find the settings for my work email address. They make us use outlook web access.
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I use Enhanced Email. It automatically detects my Exchange server settings when i add my email account. That's where i got the correct settings for Corporate Addressbook.
I was after the access to the full set of info from the directory (i.e. phone numbers etc... on top of email address). I understand that this could be simply not part of "naked" android?
It then must have been from the htc contacts app on the desire, then? Not always easy to tell...
Now, what would be great would be something that integrates in the ics people app. Any hope?
I did use touchdown for a while but felt better with HTC email client...
Thanks for all the quick answers.
Hi,
I just found out that People app is now looking from corp directory. Anyone else is seeing that?
This is very good.
Hey
Just converted from Iphone. Today I setup my HTC one X and have few questions. I like the HTC One X stock email client but what I fail to understand that why when I search mails it only search emails which currently resides in my HTC One X phone and doesn't give me option to search on server, an option which I had in my Iphone. This lack of search feature is literally annoying me as sometime I had to search emails which are very old and search on server feature comes handy at occasions.
Note: I have setup sync download type: by number of mails and the number is setup to 40 emails.
I did try K9 mail but it doesn't search either on server. Am I doing some mistake. Is there any way to sort this issue?
Best wishes,
Z
I'm interested too... Would be like to know how to search email on server and how to look up to Exchange Global Address (or email address in Public folder)
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Hello, make sure you sync "all folders" and set the current folder to "all folders" and the search will surely be more accurate.
But, if it doesn't work why don't you use the dedicated app ? Gmail or Hotmail for example ...
The app on the HOX is just a "simple" synced app, in my opinion, not a true mail app like you had on your iphone which was surely more like a "web mail" so that it was always connected to the server. The HTC ( android ? ) mail app is more a way to be alert on new mails than a "full content" mail app, like thunderbird or other apps for PCs.
You surely don't want your 5000+ mails on your phone or even old joined files which takes lots of room.
Another option is to import other mails in your gmail and use the gmail app.
I tried on my gmail and it looks like it searches on all mails.
Try'n'see
Thanks DanRZ for your feedback. I get your point about HOX email client as simply sync application. The whole idea of using HOX client was to have one stop integrated experience for emails rather than accessing different email accounts through different application.You probably are right in pointing out that dedicated email app like gmail app on HOX will resolve the problem but what about mails residing on other private networks like emails from my work or university. I will still not be able to search old emails from these accounts and my work and university certainly has no dedicated email app that could do that either.
Your point of importing them to gmail sounds promising but I already have thousands of emails on my gmail account and I don't want to clutter it more by importing it through gmail. Plus due to reason of confidentiality, I am not allowed to import my work emails to gmail account
In short, I am stuck. Is there any paid well professional application that could offer similar features as Iphone email client use to offer?
One more question: When HOX client or gmail app store emails on the phone? Are they stored on the 2 gb application space or it is stored on 25 gb space available on the phone?
Best wishes,
Z
The mail app DOES search the server. The what it does NOT do is search the body of the messages.. Don't know why but that's just how HTC did it.
Unfortunately there really isn't a 3rd party client that does proper search AND can sync more than one activesync account...
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Thanks ewok666 for your response. When searching I clicked 'option' (top right hand side) and selected sender, to and subject fields and then gave the keyword that was the person's name whose email I was searching, I also tried giving full email address as well. But it only returned results that were residing in my phone (i.e. 40 messages that were synced) and there was no option to further search on server as one see it in Iphone. If your point is right that it does search on the server them am I doing mistake, in this case could you please guide me. I would be really thankful to you.
Best wishes,
Z
zaask said:
Thanks ewok666 for your response. When searching I clicked 'option' (top right hand side) and selected sender, to and subject fields and then gave the keyword that was the person's name whose email I was searching, I also tried giving full email address as well. But it only returned results that were residing in my phone (i.e. 40 messages that were synced) and there was no option to further search on server as one see it in Iphone. If your point is right that it does search on the server them am I doing mistake, in this case could you please guide me. I would be really thankful to you.
Best wishes,
Z
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Sorry this has taken a while...are you trying to search an Exchange server? I don't know what other servers (if any) support server search. For me (using Exchange 2007 and 2010), as soon as I enter the search string I get some results and on the bottom I get "Search Server".
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Sorry this has taken a while...are you trying to search an Exchange server? I don't know what other servers (if any) support server search. For me (using Exchange 2007 and 2010), as soon as I enter the search string I get some results and on the bottom I get "Search Server".
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got the "search server" option too when connected to lotus traveler with default HOX email client.
Thanks for a reply. I have one email setup on exchange server and I found the search on server option as you mentioned but other accounts like my university email and gmail which uses IMAP protocol don't perform search on server or give that option, though they used to give it when I was using Iphone.
zaask said:
Thanks for a reply. I have one email setup on exchange server and I found the search on server option as you mentioned but other accounts like my university email and gmail which uses IMAP protocol don't perform search on server or give that option, though they used to give it when I was using Iphone.
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I have been using HTC phones since I switched from Windows Mobile 6 to Android. Whenever I needed to get any mail older than 2 weeks, I would have to go to the browser and search. I am not a fan of using the dedicated apps because the mail client seems like a one-stop-shop for aggregating all emails. I was surprised when I recently found that the iPhone email client does search the server.
I am rooted and decided to try a vanilla version of Android for sometime. I noticed that the stock Android email client does search the server for emails not on the phone. Let me see if I can find a way for you to download the email client...
Eyong
Unfortunately, it looks like you can't use Google's email client independently. Sorry
Eyong
In the normal email app (not Gmail) I can set up my email as POP and everything is fine but when I set up as Exchange, the option for 'sender name' is gone. The only thing I can do is name the account which has no affect on the senders name that shows up when I email someone. When I send an email my name shows as the first part of my email address (the part before the @ symbol).
When I send email from my providers web mail it shows correctly. The problem only exists when setting up my phone to use Exchange.
Many thanks in advance!
Hi!
I believe this is tied to the way an Exchange server works. The Email app will use the name set by the Exchange administrator.
Alexandre-P said:
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I believe this is tied to the way an Exchange server works. The Email app will use the name set by the Exchange administrator.
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Who is the Exchange administrator? So how can I change the name setting?
The Exchange administrator is your email provider.
It's possible your sender's name is automatically updated in Exchange when you modify your name in a web interface from your provider -- usually a "Settings" or "Account info" or something like that setting page. You may want to try this, if your email provider offers you a webmail interface and you can cange your account's info.
If your sender's name does not get updated or if you don't have access to that kind of settings from your webmail -- for example, it is usually the case for an enterprise email account --, then you might want to talk directly to your email provider's administrators to see what they can do for you.
Alexandre-P said:
Hi!
I believe this is tied to the way an Exchange server works. The Email app will use the name set by the Exchange administrator.
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Alexandre-P said:
The Exchange administrator is your email provider.
It's possible your sender's name is automatically updated in Exchange when you modify your name in a web interface from your provider -- usually a "Settings" or "Account info" or something like that setting page. You may want to try this, if your email provider offers you a webmail interface and you can cange your account's info.
If your sender's name does not get updated or if you don't have access to that kind of settings from your webmail -- for example, it is usually the case for an enterprise email account --, then you might want to talk directly to your email provider's administrators to see what they can do for you.
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As I mentioned, when I send email from the web interface (Webmail) it shows my name fine. I can access my account name and info on my web provider's site (Shaw) and change it to whatever I want but email sent from every account set up with Exchange on my phone strips the name and adds the first part of the email address before the @ symbol. I've spent a long time talking to their 'tech' guys with no help. They say it is a setting in my phone.
Anyone?
Does anyone have any other thoughts on how to fix this?
Anyone?
Nobody has ever seen this?
According to Google, I'm not the only one who has experienced this but it seems that nobody has figured out a solution...
johnny340 said:
Does anyone have any other thoughts on how to fix this?
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Have you tried deleting the account and then reentering the account? I think you may be presented this when you set up the account but not later (I have three accounts and I remember being prompted for something like name you want to appear, etc.
Yes, I've deleted and recreated that account. I never had an option to enter a name; only a name for the account which doesn't show up in sent emails...
johnny340 said:
Yes, I've deleted and recreated that account. I never had an option to enter a name; only a name for the account which doesn't show up in sent emails...
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Too bad ( it was just a thought). I just checked my exchange account and, if I go in to settings, I get an option for "Your Name" and another for " Signature." Not sure why yours does not give you the same options. Have you tried a third-party app that can handle exchange server accounts? I had to use one when my office switched their software and it wouldn't connect to Android devices.
good luck.
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Too bad ( it was just a thought). I just checked my exchange account and, if I go in to settings, I get an option for "Your Name" and another for " Signature."
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Based on Google reading, if you're quick enough, you should be able to see this "Your Name" setting in your Exchange's email preferences. And if you're very quick, you might be able to access this setting and modify it. I myself did not succeed in this operation.
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The only way (as of now and to my knowledge) to change the "sender name" in the stock android mail app while still using the exchange setup (Hotmail service, or any other mail service that dont sync your correct sender name with the mail server) is as follows (requires root):
- Set up your account and assure yourself that all basic features function properly (sending-, receiving mails, etc.)
- get a SQLite editor app (of your choice, Google Play is your 'friend')
- launch the SQLite editor and find the stock android mail app (com.android.email) and explore its databases (*.db)
- navigate and open "EmailProvider.db"
- open the "Account" table and change the "senderName" string to your desired "sender name" and save
- at this point you are done, and its advised to reboot your phone or completely restart the mail app
Voilà!
Alexandre-P said:
Based on Google reading, if you're quick enough, you should be able to see this "Your Name" setting in your Exchange's email preferences. And if you're very quick, you might be able to access this setting and modify it. I myself did not succeed in this operation.
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No matter how 'quick' I am I can't see something that is NOT there.
ImproAptoVictum said:
The only way (as of now and to my knowledge) to change the "sender name" in the stock android mail app while still using the exchange setup (Hotmail service, or any other mail service that dont sync your correct sender name with the mail server) is as follows (requires root):
- Set up your account and assure yourself that all basic features function properly (sending-, receiving mails, etc.)
- get a SQLite editor app (of your choice, Google Play is your 'friend')
- launch the SQLite editor and find the stock android mail app (com.android.email) and explore its databases (*.db)
- navigate and open "EmailProvider.db"
- open the "Account" table and change the "senderName" string to your desired "sender name" and save
- at this point you are done, and its advised to reboot your phone or completely restart the mail app
Voilà!
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Thanks for this suggestion! I will use this method.
I recently picked up a Verizon LG3 and love it so far. I do have one issue where my corporate global address list doesn't show up in contacts. My personal contacts from my Exchange account show up, and no problems with calendar or email. Any suggestions on what I need to do to get the GAL contacts?
When you say GAL contacts do you mean the actual global address list or the contacts you have saved into your corporate exchange account?
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When you say GAL contacts do you mean the actual global address list or the contacts you have saved into your corporate exchange account?
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The corporate global address list is missing. Personal contacts that I have saved in Outlook come through fine, but the company address list does not.
Okay you should be able to open the people/contacts app and then press the search button and be able to search for anyone within your corporate organizations.
They aren't there. My personal contacts are there, but not the corporate list.
You will need to search them using the search function as the GAL will not save locally to your device... Just press search and type someone's name and that person should pop up. It may take a moment as it has to pull from the exchange server
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You will need to search them using the search function as the GAL will not save locally to your device... Just press search and type someone's name and that person should pop up. It may take a moment as it has to pull from the exchange server
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Is there not a way to pull all of the contacts into the contacts file of the phone? I've setup other users with other Android phones and the entire GAL is available on the phone.
I work in the IT department of a corporate company and I have not seen anyone set up like this. I am going to test myself with my own corporate email account to see what can be done
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I work in the IT department of a corporate company and I have not seen anyone set up like this. I am going to test myself with my own corporate email account to see what can be done
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I also work in the IT department of our company, but I don't handle any Exchange related duties. I believe they are using Epicenter to create a cached copy of the GAL for mobile users. It may just be a case where my user account isn't included in the list of users to receive this GAL list.
Yep I reckon you would need to request access to this from your manager... Anything for these corporate companies to save money