Okay, I have a general question, can someone please help?
You can use your existing phone on T-Mobile network provided it is a GSM phone and unlocked.
I called T-Mobile and she said you can use AT&T phone on T-Mobile WITHOUT unlocking it because AT&T and T-Mobile have an existing service agreement. Yet, when I call my local store, they said it has to be unlocked regardless.
So which is true? Can I use at&t phone on t-mobile network just like that? Or it has to be unlocked no matter what.
Thanks.
You should just wait till tomorrow and buy the tmobile version. Atleast you know the bootloader will not be locked.
combatmedic870 said:
You should just wait till tomorrow and buy the tmobile version. Atleast you know the bootloader will not be locked.
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Yes, I will be buying t-mobile version tomorrow.
My question, is for another line where I want to use my existing phone from at&t.
Can it be used just like that? Or I have to get it unlocked first?
starrscream22 said:
Yes, I will be buying t-mobile version tomorrow.
My question, is for another line where I want to use my existing phone from at&t.
Can it be used just like that? Or I have to get it unlocked first?
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Need's to be unlocked. Maybe they were confused with roaming agreements. Tmobile has a roaming agreement with ATT to use some of their towers.
Make sure the phone supports freq bands for Tmo. I believe you need 1700/2100 for the regular network and 1900 for their refarmed LTE.
starrscream22 said:
Yes, I will be buying t-mobile version tomorrow.
My question, is for another line where I want to use my existing phone from at&t.
Can it be used just like that? Or I have to get it unlocked first?
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mircury said:
Need's to be unlocked. Maybe they were confused with roaming agreements. Tmobile has a roaming agreement with ATT to use some of their towers.
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boshindo said:
Make sure the phone supports freq bands for Tmo. I believe you need 1700/2100 for the regular network and 1900 for their refarmed LTE.
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best to test it out yourself with tmo sim and note3. nothing like a good experiment.
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Hi,
i am interested in buying the Rogers Nokia Lumia 900, unlock it with a code, and make it work on Telus.
Questions to those who bought the Nokia Lumia 900 from Rogers:
1) Does the LTE will work on Telus Network?
2) Is the Internet Sharing locked?
3) I figure we can still get the April 16th update when we unlock it?
4) Where did you bought your codes?
Thanks in advance!
not sure for questions 1-3.
4. I bought mine here... www.remotecellunlock.com
for the Rogers Nokia Lumia 900 it was USD$ 8.79 and code was delivered in 35 minutes
1. dont know
2. now this feature is locked.
3. yes
4.www.cellunlocker.net 7.99 USD, unlock it night before sleep and got it when i wake up
From what I can tell the Rogers version really doesn't have LTE.
Just pentaband.
Onced unlocked I will let you know about the AT&T version on Telus....still waiting.
geological1 said:
From what I can tell the Rogers version really doesn't have LTE.
Just pentaband.
Onced unlocked I will let you know about the AT&T version on Telus....still waiting.
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It's absolutely an LTE phone !
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...ductId_Detailed=LUM900BLKR&N=52+11+4294967039
or
http://www.nokia.com/ca-en/products/phone/lumia900/specifications/
(click on hardware specs)
Thanks guys for your replies.
However, I am surprised that no one on Telus is able to give me answers to my questions.
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Thanks guys for your replies.
However, I am surprised that no one on Telus is able to give me answers to my questions.
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my anwser is it canbe used on telus, but my region is not available for LTE at the moment, so i cant give u anwser for LTE
cao0215 said:
my anwser is it canbe used on telus, but my region is not available for LTE at the moment, so i cant give u anwser for LTE
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I see!
Did you receive the Nokia update yesterday/today? It is apparently available!
In what region are you? I am in Québec!
And i find it strange that the internet sharing option is locked out for your phone, did you bought the AT&T or Rogers device?
SlashMind said:
I see!
Did you receive the Nokia update yesterday/today? It is apparently available!
In what region are you? I am in Québec!
And i find it strange that the internet sharing option is locked out for your phone, did you bought the AT&T or Rogers device?
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i m in Newfoundland. Also i m still not receiving any updates. I was buying from ROGERS.
Does anybody got LTE in Montreal, because the higher I got was 4G. Strange or when Rogers says that LTE is deployed in Montreal it's only one cell tower near their shop in downtown ?
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Does anybody got LTE in Montreal, because the higher I got was 4G. Strange or when Rogers says that LTE is deployed in Montreal it's only one cell tower near their shop in downtown ?
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r ur data LTE data? coz LTE DATA is different with regular data
hum I got a data plan with my iPhone a few years back (6Gb), I never change it.
tewmgd said:
hum I got a data plan with my iPhone a few years back (6Gb), I never change it.
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u need switch to 6gb LTE data, my friends switch it and got the same price. Also, u need a LTE sim card, i think it's with ur purchase from Rogers
Oh thanks, I was looking indeed the data plans LTE on Rogers website but I don't see the 6Gb one, does it include teetering as well?
tewmgd said:
Oh thanks, I was looking indeed the data plans LTE on Rogers website but I don't see the 6Gb one, does it include teetering as well?
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samething but different data type
ATT Lumia 900 Unlock
geological1 said:
From what I can tell the Rogers version really doesn't have LTE.
Just pentaband.
Onced unlocked I will let you know about the AT&T version on Telus....still waiting.
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Hi I called AT&T International Services at 1-800-335-4685, you can use skype to call for free.. Anyways I asked if they could give me an unlock code if I bought a Lumia 900 to use outside the US.. the CSR said that it is available and asked for IMEI number and email to send the code to.. but I didn't have the IMEI # because I didn't receive my phone yet.. but Can you please try and let me know if it works??
Thanks
Peoples with unlocked phones, were you able to receive the Nokia update yet?
Is your device from Rogers or AT&T?
I have a Rogers Lumia 900, unlocked and using it on Telus. LTE does indeed work and is fast.
As for updates, I'm not sure how that's going to work, especially device specific updates since it's carrier dependant and Telus doesn't have the 900.
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I have a Rogers Lumia 900, unlocked and using it on Telus. LTE does indeed work and is fast.
As for updates, I'm not sure how that's going to work, especially device specific updates since it's carrier dependant and Telus doesn't have the 900.
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R u type apn into ur phone to get the internet?
KoshKosh said:
I have a Rogers Lumia 900, unlocked and using it on Telus. LTE does indeed work and is fast.
As for updates, I'm not sure how that's going to work, especially device specific updates since it's carrier dependant and Telus doesn't have the 900.
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I have a couples questions for you:
- After buying the device from Rogers, where did you get your 'Unlock Code'?
- Did you already had a Micro-SIM card or you went to Telus asking for one? and did you have to ask them to change your data plan for the LTE plan or something?
- You have an LTE icon on the phone?
- Is the Internet Sharing feature working?
- Did you have to make special changes to the settings for your LTE connection to work? Changing APN, etc...
- As for the update from Nokia, you tried the Zune trick of dropping and reconnecting your internet connection or something like that?
Which carrier will maximize the capabilities of the Note 2?
I can go on either carrier... If calling/data plans are not a concern which carrier should I go?
johnjph said:
Which carrier will maximize the capabilities of the Note 2?
I can go on either carrier... If calling/data plans are not a concern which carrier should I go?
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From the FCC documents I think the way to go is T-mobile.
T-mobile version will have all the bands needed for LTE in USA and all bands needed for use overseas.
spridell said:
From the FCC documents I think the way to go is T-mobile.
T-mobile version will have all the bands needed for LTE in USA and all bands needed for use overseas.
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But Tmobile will not have the LTE ready for another year or so. In the mean time will AT&T be faster?
johnjph said:
But Tmobile will not have the LTE ready for another year or so. In the mean time will AT&T be faster?
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If you live in an area where T-mobile is switching over their 1900mhz frequency T-mobile might be faster. If not ATT will probably be faster.
Here is a map of T-mobile progress.
http://www.airportal.de/#
Only problem is the T-Mobile sold the S3 at a significantly higher price then AT&T. Hope it does not happen with the Note.
gedster314 said:
Only problem is the T-Mobile sold the S3 at a significantly higher price then AT&T. Hope it does not happen with the Note.
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Assuming that the hardware for the TMO and ATT versions are different, will there likely be a substantially different price for the unlocked versions of these phones?
I'm currently on att with a note 2 and i've switched to t-mobile and will be recieving a new phone in the mail soon. Should i return it and just flash a t-mobile rom onto my current phone? or should i just sell my att one on craigslist and keep the new t-mobile phone? Any possible loss of features or functionality by sticking with the phone i have?
Keep the tmo one.
It dosent have lte yet, so hang on to att one too I suggest but tmo has added aws band.
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prepaidguy9081 said:
Keep the tmo one.
It dosent have lte yet, so hang on to att one too I suggest but tmo has added aws band.
Sent from my SGH-T889
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I don't understand your answer to the OP.
I'm in the exact same situation as the OP. I'm with AT&T but they just took my unlimited data plan away so I'm probably going to switch to T-Mobile.
Are there any bands that the T-Mobile Note 2 has that can't be unlocked on the AT&T model? According to Wikipedia both AT&T and T-Mobile version of the Note 2 have AWS. I heard that you can enable the high speed bands on AT&T's model to work with T-Mobile. Is taht not true?
rogerbacon50 said:
I don't understand your answer to the OP.
I'm in the exact same situation as the OP. I'm with AT&T but they just took my unlimited data plan away so I'm probably going to switch to T-Mobile.
Are there any bands that the T-Mobile Note 2 has that can't be unlocked on the AT&T model? According to Wikipedia both AT&T and T-Mobile version of the Note 2 have AWS. I heard that you can enable the high speed bands on AT&T's model to work with T-Mobile. Is taht not true?
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Tmo hasnt released the update to let tmo gnotes2 work on their lte network, because its not up and running most places... Possibly only update customers who are in Kansas City.
Not too clear if att gnotes2 with att specific firmware would work on tmo's network. Theoretically it should work, but their might be some radio issues that give u shoddy service. Unlocking phones is illegal now, so idk if u could sim unlock ur phone through att to work for tmo anyways. Might have to go through ebay or something to do so.
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This is my scenario. I own a galaxy SIII bought from ROGERS. I'm fed up with them and I want to switch to mobilcity. a customer rep from mobilcity told me that their simcard will not work on my phone . is that true? My phone is unlocked and I have a custom ROM. He mentioned because of the difference in the hardware. I'm not knowledgeable enough in this filed but I thought it was bull****. If my phone is unlocked how can it not work with their simcard?
That's interesting because they sell sims specifically for your gsm s3 here:
http://freeyourcellphone.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=121
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This is my scenario. I own a galaxy SIII bought from ROGERS. I'm fed up with them and I want to switch to mobilcity. a customer rep from mobilcity told me that their simcard will not work on my phone . is that true? My phone is unlocked and I have a custom ROM. He mentioned because of the difference in the hardware. I'm not knowledgeable enough in this filed but I thought it was bull****. If my phone is unlocked how can it not work with their simcard?
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It might be because mobilicity uses a different baseband. I'm not too sure about it though.
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neuropass said:
This is my scenario. I own a galaxy SIII bought from ROGERS. I'm fed up with them and I want to switch to mobilcity. a customer rep from mobilcity told me that their simcard will not work on my phone . is that true? My phone is unlocked and I have a custom ROM. He mentioned because of the difference in the hardware. I'm not knowledgeable enough in this filed but I thought it was bull****. If my phone is unlocked how can it not work with their simcard?
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The customer rep is correct. Mobilicity uses AWS spectrum for their network (1700 MHz), and the Rogers version of the S3 does not support this frequency. You need the T-Mobile version (SGH-T999).
ddt68 said:
The customer rep is correct. Mobilicity uses AWS spectrum for their network (1700 MHz), and the Rogers version of the S3 does not support this frequency. You need the T-Mobile version (SGH-T999).
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The 1700MHz LTE freq is supported by the i747m
xBeerdroiDx said:
The 1700MHz LTE freq is supported by the i747m
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Yeah, but Mobilicity uses HSPA/HSPA+ on AWS, not LTE.
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Yeah, but Mobilicity uses HSPA/HSPA+ on AWS, not LTE.
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I see. Are they the only network that operates that way? I've seen some of their Web ads and it appears deceiving, like any US/Canadian variant will work on their network
All SGH i747/747M have the exact same hardware. The only difference is the carrier
xBeerdroiDx said:
I see. Are they the only network that operates that way? I've seen some of their Web ads and it appears deceiving, like any US/Canadian variant will work on their network
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Mobilicity, Wind Mobile and Videotron are the three new competitors on the market, and they all use HSPA on AWS. They don't typically advertise that you need a specific phone, but the FAQs on their web site do, and their reps are quick to point it out.
All three are rumored to be looking at LTE, but that's only likely to occur after the upcoming 700MHz spectrum auction.
ddt68 said:
The customer rep is correct. Mobilicity uses AWS spectrum for their network (1700 MHz), and the Rogers version of the S3 does not support this frequency. You need the T-Mobile version (SGH-T999).
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Well I made a fool of myself... I had forgotten mobilecity was included in the t-mobile forum. It looks like t-mobile phones will but not one like rogers and at&t.
EDIT: Does Canada has a prepaid/no contract carrier that is compatible with the big three in canada ?
hednik said:
Well I made a fool of myself... I had forgotten mobilecity was included in the t-mobile forum. It looks like t-mobile phones will but not one like rogers and at&t.
EDIT: Does Canada has a prepaid/no contract carrier that is compatible with the big three in canada ?
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Yes, there are a few MVNOs, such as Petro-Canada Mobility, PC Mobility, Speakout Wireless; these all use either the Rogers or Bell 3G networks, but not LTE. Each of the big three also owns a few more companies: Fido and Chatr (Rogers), Koodo (Telus) and Virgin (Bell).
Hello,
I'm in a dilemma where I have personal T-Mobile service, and AT&T service with my work. I want to purchase the variant of the S4 that will have the best compatibility with both networks (including HSPA, HSPA+, LTE). T-Mobile LTE has also already gone live in my market.
It seems the international i9505 support's T-Mobile's LTE bands (AWS 1700 / 2100 MHz LTE)
However, AT&T's variant (SGH-i337) supports AT&T's LTE (LTE 700 MHz Class 17) and possibly the additional T-Mobile bands.
Can anyone confirm if the international model also supports AT&T's LTE 700 MHz Class 17 Network?
Thanks!
The T-Mobile version is pentaband. I cannot confirm LTE, but it should pick up AT&T bands. T-Mobile does use 850/1900 in some areas, primarily to support older iPhones, and you should be able to roam on their frequencies. The AT&T version does not support T-Mobile bands (AWS, also used by some Canadian carriers).
The T-Mobile version supports all of atts bands (including LTE) but adds support for AWS HSPA and LTE.
If you use an att S4 on T-Mobile, you will be locked to 1900 PCS only. No LTE, EDGE in most places, HSPA in refarm markets (but not DC-HSPA+ which means you will average 3-7 down)
It is much more advantageous to get the T-Mobile version than the att version as they are identical otherwise.
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EtherealRemnant said:
It is much more advantageous to get the T-Mobile version than the att version as they are identical otherwise.
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Save the critical bootloader difference.
Adam's teardown shows that the AT&T and T-Mobile versions are literally the same hardware. So it should be possible to unlock AWS on AT&T's model (might be as simple as flashing the T-Mo modem/firmware, as on the Note 2).
Thanks for all the responses. I bought the T-Mobile S4 and was happy to learn it is the pentaband variant. Since I travel abroad and also own an AT&T SIM through work.. it looks like I made the right choice!
ker0zene said:
Thanks for all the responses. I bought the T-Mobile S4 and was happy to learn it is the pentaband variant. Since I travel abroad and also own an AT&T SIM through work.. it looks like I made the right choice!
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Hi!
Did it work with AT&T SIM? I'm assuming that the sim is locked but I was am wondering if T-Mobile (If you buy at full prize) makes the device SIM unlocked or not?
If this is the case, TMo would be a smarter choice right now to use in AT&T to avoid that bootloader BS.
keplenk said:
Hi!
Did it work with AT&T SIM? I'm assuming that the sim is locked but I was am wondering if T-Mobile (If you buy at full prize) makes the device SIM unlocked or not?
If this is the case, TMo would be a smarter choice right now to use in AT&T to avoid that bootloader BS.
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I have a T-Mobile S4 and I can confirm it does get LTE on AT&T. I got a SIM unlock pin from an online site and then the device accepted my AT&T SIM. The only thing I had to do after that was change the APN to use "phone" instead of "wap.cingular" and LTE is working great!
intrepresentation said:
I have a T-Mobile S4 and I can confirm it does get LTE on AT&T. I got a SIM unlock pin from an online site and then the device accepted my AT&T SIM. The only thing I had to do after that was change the APN to use "phone" instead of "wap.cingular" and LTE is working great!
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whelp... looks like I'm getting the tmobile variant after all
keplenk said:
Hi!
Did it work with AT&T SIM? I'm assuming that the sim is locked but I was am wondering if T-Mobile (If you buy at full prize) makes the device SIM unlocked or not?
If this is the case, TMo would be a smarter choice right now to use in AT&T to avoid that bootloader BS.
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yeah tmobile phones are network locked, and if you are doing the monthly pay plan, tmobile wont give you the unlock code until it is paid off.
im the kind of person who likes to unlock my phone regardless of me leaving or staying with a specific network or not.
i chatted with tmobile and they wouldn't give me my code, so i went to cellunlocker (dot) net and got my code in ~7 hours.
(im not affiliated with cellunlocker in any way)
intrepresentation said:
I have a T-Mobile S4 and I can confirm it does get LTE on AT&T. I got a SIM unlock pin from an online site and then the device accepted my AT&T SIM. The only thing I had to do after that was change the APN to use "phone" instead of "wap.cingular" and LTE is working great!
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The question I have is that if you plan to use the phone on AT&T's network all of the time, will AT&T add the T-Mobile's phone IMEI to your AT&T account so it reflects the correct device on your line for account and possible insurance purposes?
scott14719 said:
The question I have is that if you plan to use the phone on AT&T's network all of the time, will AT&T add the T-Mobile's phone IMEI to your AT&T account so it reflects the correct device on your line for account and possible insurance purposes?
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Its not a native at&t device so you won't get any help from at&t or Asurion. Its not even worth keeping the device insurance if you arent using an at&t branded device. Huge waste of money.
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My plan is to just purchase Tmobile version of S4 (no contract), then purchase unlock code, then purchase squaretrade warranty ... Then use an AT&T sim.
My only question is, one you purchase the sim unlock code from a different company, will you purchase again if you (for example) flash CM, AOSP Roms - that includes modem firmware updates?
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If you are buying off contract, they should go ahead and give you unlock code or it may already be unlocked.
bookmonke said:
If you are buying off contract, they should go ahead and give you unlock code or it may already be unlocked.
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You'd be surprised. There is apparently some confusion with T-Mobile as to what exactly their unlocking policies are. I purchased my S4 from T-Mobile's website at full retail price. According to their website (support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1588) if you purchase the phone at full retail price, they will unlock it provided only that you have an account in good standing.
However, when I tried to get it unlocked yesterday the rep I was chatting with online said I had to have service active for at least 40 days (I am switching over to T-Mobile from Sprint) so she wouldn't even submit an unlock request. I went to the store and while they submitted an unlock request but were told on the phone that the 40 day period may apply (even though it does not say that on their website).
I am supposed to find out by Monday if they will unlock it or not. If they don't I will just buy an unlock code from one of the unlocking websites. Kind of crazy T-Mobile makes you jump through these hoops when you can just buy a code for $25.
What T-Mobile's Sim Unlock Department answered to my request..
BillBurn said:
You'd be surprised. There is apparently some confusion with T-Mobile as to what exactly their unlocking policies are. I purchased my S4 from T-Mobile's website at full retail price. According to their website (support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1588) if you purchase the phone at full retail price, they will unlock it provided only that you have an account in good standing.
However, when I tried to get it unlocked yesterday the rep I was chatting with online said I had to have service active for at least 40 days (I am switching over to T-Mobile from Sprint) so she wouldn't even submit an unlock request. I went to the store and while they submitted an unlock request but were told on the phone that the 40 day period may apply (even though it does not say that on their website).
I am supposed to find out by Monday if they will unlock it or not. If they don't I will just buy an unlock code from one of the unlocking websites. Kind of crazy T-Mobile makes you jump through these hoops when you can just buy a code for $25.
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I paid for the phone in full, and requested the unlocked code by phone. They told me it could take from 24 hours to 14 days.
This is the response they sent me thrue email yesterday"
"T-Mobile Sim Unlock Request
Sim Unlock Reference: *******
IMEI: **********************
Thank you for taking the time to contact T-Mobile. Unfortunately, we are unable to provide the unlock code at this time. After review of the account we have determined that the device is not in use with the corresponding mobile number. T-Mobile policies and procedures state that the device must be in use on the mobile number requesting the unlock code. If this is a new device please allow 3-4 business days prior to submitting a new request to allow your usage to update in our system.
Thank you,
SIM Unlock Department
Thank You,
Sim Unlock Department
T-Mobile USA, Inc."
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The question I have is that if you plan to use the phone on AT&T's network all of the time, will AT&T add the T-Mobile's phone IMEI to your AT&T account so it reflects the correct device on your line for account and possible insurance purposes?
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Asurion (the company most USA cellular networks go thur) is too expensive...you should look into squaretrade, ensquared, or buy it thru BestBuy and get BestBuy's warranty
wavrunrx said:
yeah tmobile phones are network locked, and if you are doing the monthly pay plan, tmobile wont give you the unlock code until it is paid off.
im the kind of person who likes to unlock my phone regardless of me leaving or staying with a specific network or not.
i chatted with tmobile and they wouldn't give me my code, so i went to cellunlocker (dot) net and got my code in ~7 hours.
(im not affiliated with cellunlocker in any way)
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intrepresentation said:
I have a T-Mobile S4 and I can confirm it does get LTE on AT&T. I got a SIM unlock pin from an online site and then the device accepted my AT&T SIM. The only thing I had to do after that was change the APN to use "phone" instead of "wap.cingular" and LTE is working great!
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how'd you manage to add the APN? i'm in the same situation and cannot add the APN. i'm trying to use an AT&T iPhone5 SIM in my T-Mo unlocked Galaxy S4 ... getting phone service, but no data. am confused.
jerzyboy2421 said:
how'd you manage to add the APN? i'm in the same situation and cannot add the APN. i'm trying to use an AT&T iPhone5 SIM in my T-Mo unlocked Galaxy S4 ... getting phone service, but no data. am confused.
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on the stock Galaxy S4, you just open apps drawer, go to <SETTINGS> <CONNECTIONS><MORE NETWORKS><MOBILE NETWORKS><ACCESS POINT NAMES> then hit the "menu button" on your phone and choose "New APN" type in your data and hit the "menu button" again and choose "Save"