Looking To Get a HTC One But Have Some Questions - Verizon HTC One (M7)

I currently have a Verizon S4 that I might be looking to trade for a HTC One. I've never owned an HTC device before so I have some questions. What's going on with the menu overflow? Do we still have that or is there a way to customize one of the other buttons to trigger the menu? Also what is required to get my device ready for flashing ROMs? Thanks in advance!

You can set long press of home button to be the menu button which makes swiping up from home screen to open google now.
Right now, the only way to flash ROMs is to have your phone hardware s-off'd by sending it to sonic. He has a java card (dev tool) that can do it. No software exploits have been released yet though some are speculating that one has been found but won't be released until after the 4.3 update which is supposed to come in October.
Also, coming from the note 2, the one is just so much a sexier device to hold and use. Screen is amazing and battery life has been very good compared to my past phones (not named note 2).

if you know the how to do it you can code those buttons to do anything, say long press back for menu, or long press home to turn off screen for example, I used to LOVE that feature in our Team Venoms Inc4 ROM

czonin said:
I currently have a Verizon S4 that I might be looking to trade for a HTC One. I've never owned an HTC device before so I have some questions. What's going on with the menu overflow? Do we still have that or is there a way to customize one of the other buttons to trigger the menu? Also what is required to get my device ready for flashing ROMs? Thanks in advance!
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If you haven't made a decision yet, I've owned several Samsungs and this device is great. First device that I have wanted to keep stock. No need for CM10 anymore.

I had the s4 for about a week with my recent upgrade and decided to switch to the htc one and I've liked it a lot better. It's more snappy than the s4 and the metal body is pretty nice. I also like sense much better, I used to load up roms all the time on my razr but since getting the one I haven't felt the need to, I haven't even used a custom launcher since I like blinkfeed and the stock launcher. I have a feeling they might find an exploit soon too if they haven't yet. The s4 does have safestrap though so if you really need roms then I'd stick with the s4 but personally I'd switch if I were you.

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[Q] Is HOX a bad phone? Thinking of returning

This is my first Android phone. I had iPhone, 3g, and 4 before grabbing the One X. I thought spec wise this phone is amazing, I love the screen and camera so much and ICS finally made Android as smooth if not smoother than iPhones with GPU acceleration. Now I am having issues that's making me think about returning it.
Issues
-Pandora randomly skips songs and buffers a lot
-No lock screen controls on Pandora
-Bought two games on the Play store (Worms & GTA3), they do not work
-The main home screen (the one that it goes to when you hit the home button), changes on me, and nobody seems to know how to set it.
-If you use a pattern screen lock, you still have to slide the ring open before you can do the pattern
Are these Android issues or One X issues? Do you think they will get solved, and how soon? I have 9 days to return this, seriously considering it and just using my iPhone 4 until the new iPhone comes out. Any and all opinions are appreciated.
Thanks
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If you felt like reading more... I absolutely love the HOX. The screen is gorgeous and such a pleasure to use. I love the camera as well, it takes amazing pictures, and they looks great on said gorgeous screen. I really want to like this phone, but some of these issues are deal breakers for me and worry me about just putting up with issues like these for two years.
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I would return my phone if the battery life was extremely poor, too much lag, too many bugs or screen flickering. Not cause there no lock screen controls for pandora or you have to unlock the ring after a password. But if those are deal breakers for you then yes, you should return it.
To be honest, this is an amazing phone, it is beautiful, fast and smooth.
To optimize it however, I would suggest rooting it and using a custom rom, which might (just might, don't know for sure) fix your homescreen problem, and for the Pandora and the games you bought, try un-installing and re-installing, if that doesnt work ; email the developers asking for help or answers, I emailed before for 'ISyncr' and got a reply and a fix in less than 2 hours.
Also, for the pull the ring before pattern, im sure on an iphone you haveto slide it before you can put it in number to unlock? Hope this helps
Thanks for the replays. since I want to like this phone so much, I'll try to.root it tomorrow. I work tomorrow so it will be later.
Not sure if I'll get an answer here, but if I root and try some roms will I be able to return it to stock and return it? as I said above, I'm on the AT&T one x.
Valitri said:
Thanks for the replays. since I want to like this phone so much, I'll try to.root it tomorrow. I work tomorrow so it will be later.
Not sure if I'll get an answer here, but if I root and try some roms will I be able to return it to stock and return it? as I said above, I'm on the AT&T one x.
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You're in the wrong forum, go to the AT&T and Rogers One X forum because it is specialized and the AT&T One X has many subtle details that must be followed compared to the HTC One X.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
You're in the wrong forum, go to the AT&T and Rogers One X forum because it is specialized and the AT&T One X has many subtle details that must be followed compared to the HTC One X.
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Quoting myself...
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So being a good xda noob, should I go create another thread while this one is still open? I don't know why they don't have the option to delete your own threads, especially when I had no replies on it.

I am currently Evo LTE coming to SGIII

I have been a EVO users for (2) years making the change to SGIII. I hope I am making the right decision. Couple of questions:
S-off obtainable?
Bootloader Y/N?
Battery Life?
Good Stable Rom?
Tell me what you guys think.
We don't need some soff because Samsung usually isn't a ****
Everything else hell yeah
Some things even hit this phone first
Hell I'm testing something for a guy that will be one of a kind once he shows it off
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The bootloader on the SGIII is not locked (so the equivalent of S-OFF on the HTC bootloaders does not apply). You simply use the Samsung Odin tool to flash a custom recovery so that you can then root or install a custom ROM. It is very easy to do.
The battery life has been good in the two weeks that I have had the phone but of course it depends on phone usage. I can burn the battery down if I am using the phone constantly but with my normal usage it lasts considerably longer than my Evo did.
When I look around I do find some other ROMs around but I have not made that leap yet. I am just running rooted stock. There is enough of an adjustment for me coming from Gingerbread Sense to Samsung ICS. I have not felt the need to do anything other than simple mods at this time.
I came to the SGIII after being on the Evo 4G for two years... I was torn between the Evo LTE and the Galaxy SIII. The things that drove me to the SIII were: replaceable battery, 2GB RAM, USB OTG...
m20120 said:
The bootloader on the SGIII is not locked (so the equivalent of S-OFF on the HTC bootloaders does not apply). You simply use the Samsung Odin tool to flash a custom recovery so that you can then root or install a custom ROM. It is very easy to do.
The battery life has been good in the two weeks that I have had the phone but of course it depends on phone usage. I can burn the battery down if I am using the phone constantly but with my normal usage it lasts considerably longer than my Evo did.
When I look around I do find some other ROMs around but I have not made that leap yet. I am just running rooted stock. There is enough of an adjustment for me coming from Gingerbread Sense to Samsung ICS. I have not felt the need to do anything other than simple mods at this time.
I came to the SGIII after being on the Evo 4G for two years... I was torn between the Evo LTE and the Galaxy SIII. The things that drove me to the SIII were: replaceable battery, 2GB RAM, USB OTG...
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Thanks for the update. I came for OG EVO to EVO LTE which I currently have but many problems have pushed me away. I did an (OTA) and brick my first EVO LTE. One thing that drives me nuts when i am in a call screen goes black. Non removable battery not a big fan either.
I will see tomorrow when I get my SGIII!!
S-off obtainable?
Samsung doesn't have S-On and S-Off but instead Locked and Unlocked. Unlike HTC's ****ty unlock, the samsung unlock fully unlocks your phone.
Bootloader Y/N?
There's a bootloader, but the place where you flash stuff like radio, recovery, etc. is in something called Download Mode. You can use an official samsung tool called ODIN to flash the stuff really easily.
Also every computer has a bootloader. A bootloader is what checks if all your hardware is working and initializes it when you start the device.
Battery Life?
Excellent. I can get 5 hours of screen on time. Similar to the Evo LTE.
Good Stable Rom?
All of the touchwiz ROMs are stable and good. They are all pretty similar so I'd recommend Blazer or FreeGS3.
If you want AOSP, Cyanogenmod nightlies are the best in terms of stability but AOKP and Paranoidandroid are still pretty stable. Keep in mind that none of the AOSP ROMs are stable, but are good enough for a daily driver. If you need stability, use touchwiz.
Wont regret it, my wife has an Evo LTE which i rooted (what a pain in the ass to get s-off) and the Gs3 feels way superior. Dev support for evo lte is not even close to the GS3. My previous phone was an EVO 3d and after having this phone no way im going back to HTC.
Sent from my GS3 on the **** network
That is exactly want I was hoping to hear. I am unrooting LTE as we speak and taking it back later today.
Thanks
Welcome to lag free world.
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Derekao said:
That is exactly want I was hoping to hear. I am unrooting LTE as we speak and taking it back later today.
Thanks
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I think you'll be a happy camper. Just make sure you don't root it the second you get it out of the box. Make sure you provision everything first and make sure your 3G connection is working. I jumped too quick and didn't have any data and had to call Sprint.
Check the Dev sub forum and you'll find videos by qbking that will guide you step-by-step on how to root your phone. It's a simple process if you have any knowledge in the subject at all.
Yep... I think if HTC wants to survive, they need to take a few lessons from Samsung. They need to give up on the control thing. They are gaining nothing by doing that.
edufur said:
Yep... I think if HTC wants to survive, they need to take a few lessons from Samsung. They need to give up on the control thing. They are gaining nothing by doing that.
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I never thought I'd ever hear anyone say this! Back when I was suffering through my T-Mobile Vibrant (Samsung Galaxy S) days, I was firmly in the #neveragain camp. I couldn't wait to jump to HTC. Then sometime around a year or so ago, things started changing. First, I guess because of the success of the galaxy line in general, a lot of devs started working on the Samsung phones. The Vibrant still suffered, because it had horrendous GPS (still does to some extent) locks and Samsung wouldn't release either the source code or updates. But the open source community worked wonders. I think the Vibrant was possibly amongst the first phones with an ICS ROM - working ICS ROM. I have been using ICS since December on my Vibrant. It got the JB ROM almost 2 months ago - a stable daily driver JB ROM.
Even so, this was all the open source community with Samsung doing Jack. When I saw the specs for the HTC One X, I was sure I was switching to HTC. Then Samsung hired Steve Kondik and I'm sure he's had something to do with this, but Samsung suddenly started releasing source codes left right and center. As others have said, they never locked the boot loader in the first place and now with the same device on millions of phones (with very minor changes), they have the best of both worlds. But I was still determined to get the One X - especially when Sprint added a SD Card, a kickstand and a dedicated camera button. The display is phenomenal (the one place it totally kicks the S3's butt), but the non removable battery was giving me some pause. I spent some time in the HTC EVO LTE forums and started seeing the multi tasking problems and decided that with the 2GB RAM and the removable battery and the developer community, I was better off with the S3. On top of that, I think HTC went in the other direction. From a nudge-nudge-wink-wink co-inhabitation with the open source community, they went with locked boot loaders, slower releases of the source code.
I finally pulled the plug and decided to go with the S3 - although I must say, I did debate for 5 minutes whether I should wait for the Note 2.
I don't anticipate running any custom ROMS yet on the S3 that I'll be getting next week. But I'll definitely be rooting it and installing Nova launcher. If Samsung hasn't released JB by next month, I'll probably be using CM10. It's already very stable on my Vibrant. It's sure to be stable on the S3 in a month's time.
I wish HTC well and hope they come out with a good phone the next time I'm in the market for a phone.
Made the switch myself today after my 4th defective evolution lte..
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I had the evo lte for 3 days and could not get a 4g lte signal in my house. I never loose lte in my house with the s3
Sent from my bad ass Odexed Blue SIII
When I was due for an upgrade, well a line was eligible on my account, I was looking at going with the HTC LTE and decided that I wanted to be able to pull my battery so I didn't give it another thought. I upgraded from the S II to the S III, it was a good move. I had the phone for about 4 hours before I decided to root it and about a day and a half before I decided to put a custom ROM on it
I chose Team Sonic-FreeGS3 mainly because it has the same look and feel as the original stock with added tweaks.
I unplug my phone at around 7 am each morning and use my phone for email and text mainly while at work with some phone calls peppered in, when I get home usually around 530pm, I will have 75% battery life left. I'm very impressed with this ROM and it continues to get better and better. It's very stable and I haven't run into any issues with this ROM
You should check Motorola's policy. No single way to unlock bootloader :crying:
Next phone...definitely Samsung, maybe from Nexus line
Hey Derek, I came from the originals evo also. This has some keyboard lag at random times, and very minor issues, but hardly noticeable. Better than the new evo, compared to the old evo, this is heaven. Look at this, just from texting all day, kik, facebook, xda, and some web browsing and YouTube a little. But one thing I must warn you about, when you get it, at first battery life will seem to suck but it doesn't. You just happen to be going crazy with it not putting it down XD and downloading stuff and personalizing and all that. Screen on in the screen shot is total time on.
I sold my EVO 4G LTE and got a S3. Couldn't be happier.
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james33440 said:
I sold my EVO 4G LTE and got a S3. Couldn't be happier.
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why sell it? Its so new you can go back to sprint and ask to return it for the S3? XD
after reading this thread, glad I'm getting a s3 over the evo 4g lte!
ReapersDeath said:
why sell it? Its so new you can go back to sprint and ask to return it for the S3? XD
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I used my upgrade for the iPhone 4S is why. Bought the EVO new for $549.95 from Sprint.
Sold the iPhone for $450 on eBay 2 weeks prior to the EVO release. I pre-ordered two. Sold one EVO for $350 and bought the S3 for $360 with an otterbox case of eBay. Couldn't pass that deal.
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[Q] Thinking about getting the One

Hey guys,
I was thinking of getting the HTC One and had a couple of questions,
1) Can you fully root, unlock bootloader, s-off and everything a new HTC One, if I just bought one from the store today, or a week from now or maybe in January? The reason I ask is is if there is an impending update that you guys know about and the fact that if you got the earlier Droid DNAs, you could unlock it fully but Verizon locked it down later. Just wanted to know that that is not the case.
2) Can you put a reliably functioning AOSP ROM (CM10.x, AOSPA, etc.) on the One? I'm guessing the answer is yes if the answer for 1) is yes but I was also looking for comments on the stability.
3) Is the IR sensor active if you flash an AOSP ROM? Can you get that functionality restored?
4) Can the HTC logo be made a button? I saw something like that when the phone came out and was wondering if that ended up becoming a thing.
5) How's the battery life on AOSP ROMs, can you get through a day's worth of moderate usage, email, lots of texts, a couple calls and twitter?
Bit of background, I have a Droid DNA, unlocked everything, running CM10.1. Was fixing my car, shattered the screen and looking to buy a new phone. Also looking at the S4 Dev Edition but that seems to not be in stock right now.
Thanks in advance for all your help!
OctaviusMaximus said:
Hey guys,
I was thinking of getting the HTC One and had a couple of questions,
1) Can you fully root, unlock bootloader, s-off and everything a new HTC One, if I just bought one from the store today, or a week from now or maybe in January? The reason I ask is is if there is an impending update that you guys know about and the fact that if you got the earlier Droid DNAs, you could unlock it fully but Verizon locked it down later. Just wanted to know that that is not the case.
2) Can you put a reliably functioning AOSP ROM (CM10.x, AOSPA, etc.) on the One? I'm guessing the answer is yes if the answer for 1) is yes but I was also looking for comments on the stability.
3) Is the IR sensor active if you flash an AOSP ROM? Can you get that functionality restored?
4) Can the HTC logo be made a button? I saw something like that when the phone came out and was wondering if that ended up becoming a thing.
5) How's the battery life on AOSP ROMs, can you get through a day's worth of moderate usage, email, lots of texts, a couple calls and twitter?
Bit of background, I have a Droid DNA, unlocked everything, running CM10.1. Was fixing my car, shattered the screen and looking to buy a new phone. Also looking at the S4 Dev Edition but that seems to not be in stock right now.
Thanks in advance for all your help!
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Maybe this will help -
1) I just got an HTC One from Verizon this past Friday (11/29) and was able to fully root, unlock the bootloader, and s-off without a hitch.
2) I'm running tikTak 4.4 and it's a great daily driver. It's stable, and obviously there are some small bugs here and there, but overall it's fantastic.
3) I can't speak on this one, as I don't have an IR blaster app to test it with.
4) Kind of. The reality is that certain kernels make a small section of the very bottom of the screen above the logo the menu button. Your thumb tends to overlap the screen and logo, making it seem like the logo is the menu button. It does work, though I personally don't use it.
5) Battery life is okay, but I seem to be getting through the day with usage similar to yours.
I hope this helps!
garrett08 said:
Maybe this will help -
1) I just got an HTC One from Verizon this past Friday (11/29) and was able to fully root, unlock the bootloader, and s-off without a hitch.
2) I'm running tikTak 4.4 and it's a great daily driver. It's stable, and obviously there are some small bugs here and there, but overall it's fantastic.
3) I can't speak on this one, as I don't have an IR blaster app to test it with.
4) Kind of. The reality is that certain kernels make a small section of the very bottom of the screen above the logo the menu button. Your thumb tends to overlap the screen and logo, making it seem like the logo is the menu button. It does work, though I personally don't use it.
5) Battery life is okay, but I seem to be getting through the day with usage similar to yours.
I hope this helps!
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Yeah it does, thanks very much! Are you able to disable the hardware buttons and switch to onscreen ones at all? Do you know of any ROM that does that? I don't particularly like the button layout so wondering of you could change that at all. Also, how's the camera?
Honestly, all these questions could be answered by looking around this forum.
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OctaviusMaximus said:
Hey guys,
I was thinking of getting the HTC One and had a couple of questions,
1) Can you fully root, unlock bootloader, s-off and everything a new HTC One, if I just bought one from the store today, or a week from now or maybe in January? The reason I ask is is if there is an impending update that you guys know about and the fact that if you got the earlier Droid DNAs, you could unlock it fully but Verizon locked it down later. Just wanted to know that that is not the case.
2) Can you put a reliably functioning AOSP ROM (CM10.x, AOSPA, etc.) on the One? I'm guessing the answer is yes if the answer for 1) is yes but I was also looking for comments on the stability.
3) Is the IR sensor active if you flash an AOSP ROM? Can you get that functionality restored?
4) Can the HTC logo be made a button? I saw something like that when the phone came out and was wondering if that ended up becoming a thing.
5) How's the battery life on AOSP ROMs, can you get through a day's worth of moderate usage, email, lots of texts, a couple calls and twitter?
Bit of background, I have a Droid DNA, unlocked everything, running CM10.1. Was fixing my car, shattered the screen and looking to buy a new phone. Also looking at the S4 Dev Edition but that seems to not be in stock right now.
Thanks in advance for all your help!
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1) As far as dates go, I would try and shoot for before the 2nd week of December...That's when they're releasing the 4.3 update that will likely block s-off.
3) Theres an app called IR Smart Remote (I think that's the name) that works on AOSP ROMs.
Regarding your camera question, some have hardware issues, but if you avoid those the camera is great.
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OctaviusMaximus said:
Yeah it does, thanks very much! Are you able to disable the hardware buttons and switch to onscreen ones at all? Do you know of any ROM that does that? I don't particularly like the button layout so wondering of you could change that at all. Also, how's the camera?
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I'm not sure of any AOSP roms that let you do that just yet. I'm sure it's on it's way. As far as the camera goes, I'm pretty happy with it. I'm coming from the S4, which has an excellent camera, and the One isn't as good, but still takes great shots, especially in low light.
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Honestly, all these questions could be answered by looking around this forum.]
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Yeah, but we all start somewhere. :good:
OctaviusMaximus said:
Yeah it does, thanks very much! Are you able to disable the hardware buttons and switch to onscreen ones at all? Do you know of any ROM that does that? I don't particularly like the button layout so wondering of you could change that at all. Also, how's the camera?
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you can disable the buttons if you like and even turn off the lights. Im running silimbean and can do this.
I was weary about the buttons too but its not too different than using the nav bar that I was used to. I have a long press home button set to bring up recents.
The camera works. Im not relaly a camera person but it takes good enough pictures for me.
if you utilize the forum and do some searching nay question you ask can probably be answered without posting.
I came from droid bionic and I am enjoying HTC one. Right now i am running BoneStock v1.4 and [KERNEL] OBOne KernOB [3.4.10][Sense JB-4.2.2] . no issue
Mardoon
Coming from OG Thunderbolt the HTC One is amazing. Seen alot of phone come out during the gap from then til now, nothing really grabbed my attention like the One!

Looking to go to M9 from s5

I am looking at buying an m9 but had a few questions. Are the m9s able to get s off and rooted with unlocked boot loader ?
I looked around and found varying answers. Are only certain android versions root able and s off?
I was going to buy a note 4 but I feel Samsung's phone can be laggy due to their software.
Thanks
thrgk said:
I am looking at buying an m9 but had a few questions. Are the m9s able to get s off and rooted with unlocked boot loader ?
I looked around and found varying answers. Are only certain android versions root able and s off?
I was going to buy a note 4 but I feel Samsung's phone can be laggy due to their software.
Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9/general/m9-java-card-t3063247
Yes, you need to send it to someone to S-Off it. I did, rooted/unlocked running Viper.
But with that said...I hate this phone. First time the HTC One has disappointed me. Guess they assume everybody on the planet is right handed...the power button is located in the dumbest location. Everytime I pick up the phone, I'm either turning the flashlight on, hitting the power button etc..with my fingers...just no way around it..stupid design.
Unless HTC pulls some serious improvements, likely the shortest time I will ever own an HTC...and I love the Sense interface..but can't take this M9, and even worse, being on VZW since there is such limited support.
Might just change phones altogether.
But, have fun, it is a pain to get the phone S-Off, even knowing somebody with javacard, sending it off, then the ROMs available for limited etc...sad to say the least.
Good luck.
techlogik said:
Yes, you need to send it to someone to S-Off it. I did, rooted/unlocked running Viper.
But with that said...I hate this phone. First time the HTC One has disappointed me. Guess they assume everybody on the planet is right handed...the power button is located in the dumbest location. Everytime I pick up the phone, I'm either turning the flashlight on, hitting the power button etc..with my fingers...just no way around it..stupid design.
Unless HTC pulls some serious improvements, likely the shortest time I will ever own an HTC...and I love the Sense interface..but can't take this M9, and even worse, being on VZW since there is such limited support.
Might just change phones altogether.
But, have fun, it is a pain to get the phone S-Off, even knowing somebody with javacard, sending it off, then the ROMs available for limited etc...sad to say the least.
Good luck.
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To each their own. I love this phone. I have had a test handset since January, mostly stock, only sometimes rooted and I like pretty much everything about it. The camera is great; the screen is better than the M8; the speakers are phenomenal (and I use Boomsound a lot). I eventually sold my M8 and bought a second-hand M9 for when I have to turn this one back in to HTC. The overheating problems have largely been resolved, at least on the latest ROM I'm running, which should go public before too long at this point.
And it was no problem to hook-up with @dottat and get my non-UT handset S-OFF and rooted. It's ready to roll as soon as I send my UT device back to HTC.
Camera is an embarrassment still compared to iPhone...my wife's 6 plus and daughter's regular 6 still take much more accurate and better pictures by miles compared to the M9, I'm running Viper, have been for years on their Roms. Tried other things.
It is just the annoyance of the design/button layout that bothers me the most, and complete lack of support almost of the VZW users. There are better improvements I like with Sense, and as I said, I love Sense. Only reason I still have the Android phone...regular Android is still pretty pathetic..particularly the applications compared to WinMo and Apple. Like HTC/Sense, they make their mail and other apps built into the phone very slick/polished and nice. The regular android mail/calendar apps look like some 10yr old Linux mail app running under xwindows. Kind of sad that in 2015, regular Android apps are so sucky compared to HTC/Apple/MS apps in general that come on the stock android platform. If it weren't for HTC and Sense, not sure, probably have a stupid iPhone or WinMo.
Still hate apple iPhone though and Windows latest is kind of a mess as well.
Just wish somebody would make some really nice clean looking apps/interfaces with Android with good features similar to Sense, that isn't HTC...the M9 is their best effort so far with the camera, but the button layout is just a step backwards.
So, HTC still is the leader when in comes to much things Android from my perspective...
As you said, to each their own...but become left handed, then come back and tell me how many times a day you turn the flashlight on accidentally, hit the up/down volume buttons etc...their location are a mess compared to the M8, which besides the camera, never had really a complaint with that phone.
Maybe should have stuck with the M8..haha...
But have no fear the all new M9 will solve everything!!!!
See ya around guys. Or maybe over on the new Google Nexus forum or something...rofl.
Sorry...off topic I know.
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but the button layout is just a step backwards.
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When I first picked up the M9 the first thing I noticed was how much I liked the button layout

Changing back/recents button?

If I DO get this phone, I will be new to HTC. Debating on this or the G5. Looking at the pics of this phone, the back button is on the left, recents on right. Can this be swapped? If not, I will not be getting the HTC. Sounds stupid, I know, but super OCD about that and I'm a righty.
The buttons are in the right way, they are even in the Google's way, there are some manufactures who like to use it in a different way.
If you can't adapt to that change and that is a deal breaker, you should probably go with another phone or an iphone, no back button there
On another note there might be someone who makes a mod to add this if you're rooted...
L->R back-home-recents....
Standard android layout. This isnt an HTC issue.
codeglitch said:
The buttons are in the right way, they are even in the Google's way, there are some manufactures who like to use it in a different way.
If you can't adapt to that change and that is a deal breaker, you should probably go with another phone or an iphone, no back button there
On another note there might be someone who makes a mod to add this if you're rooted...
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SteelH said:
L->R back-home-recents....
Standard android layout. This isnt an HTC issue.
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I never said this was an issue with HTC at all. I was just asking if you can change these buttons (like LG). Samsung also has them L->R Recents-Home-Back.
Since I'm right handed with shorter thumbs, I can't deal with having to cross over to back out of something rather than a quick press near where my thumb hovers.
Bringing up an iPhone is completely irrelevant as I never said I don't like a back button (don't get me started how annoying that is that they don't have one when I'm showing someone who has one something).
I figured a mod, but didn't know if this was changeable without it.
I'm sure everyone has stupid reasons why they won't get a certain phone, guess I found mine. Thanks for the replies.
You can possibly do it via root and xposed, but it would only change the function of the buttons.
Dennisg34 said:
If I DO get this phone, I will be new to HTC. Debating on this or the G5. Looking at the pics of this phone, the back button is on the left, recents on right. Can this be swapped? If not, I will not be getting the HTC. Sounds stupid, I know, but super OCD about that and I'm a righty.
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You are right. It does sound stupid. Buttons are as Google intended.
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