After returning my previous nexus 7 because of a dead pixel, I'm happy to confirm my new new nexus 7 is working perfectly! No GPS problems, no dead pixels, no super weird touchscreen problems.
But here's a thing I'm uncertain about. I can confirm this happened on both JSSR66N and JSS15R. Although I don't have phantom touches, and my screen supports 10 finger multi touch, there's a little bit of interference when using two fingers: when I hold one finger steady and slowly move another finger so that one of the axles is aligned, the screen registers movement in that same axle on the non moving finger as well. Usually It jumps about 10 pixels.
This results in unsmooth aiming when playing fps games, or other 2-thumb games. It's not game breaking or anything, its just noticeable.
I was wondering if this is normal for capacitive touchscreens, if its just a software bug, or maybe it is indeed a hardware issue in MY tablet, in which case it can be returned, since I'm on day 3 of my 14 day return period.
It isn't normal for touchscreens in general.
However on the Nexus 7 2013, many units will exhibit this behavior. If you don't have any other issues, I wouldn't return it for what you are describing. There are far worse issues you might encounter.
This behaviour is pretty normal for touchscreen when crossing axis with two fingers.
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Your answers seem a bit contradicting. Could one elaborate?
The nexus 7 just has a batch of issues. That is not normal, try it out on a different device like a Nexus 4, HTC One or any other device that doesn't have a crop of issues.
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You are not talking much about this in the forum, i don't know if people don't realise about it or just don't have it but there's a big issue with the grounding of many devices. In a Spanish forum we have a big post open about it, one is back from asus and mine is going tomorrow. Mine works well, not perfect, in my hands but over a table works bad, it changes a lot. I guess it works as the creator from the thread says.
I haven't seen a capacitive touch screen that doesn't have this issue to some extend. The touch screen uses a line grid to sense capacitance; so if you have two fingers at the same line-pair, they will influence each others capacitance reading.
My N7 touchscreen definitely works better than my Galaxy i9000 one.
Multitouch in my 2 years old and much more used samsung galaxy s2 works much much much better than the n7. One and multi as far as the s2 can go
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I haven't seen a capacitive touch screen that doesn't have this issue to some extend. The touch screen uses a line grid to sense capacitance; so if you have two fingers at the same line-pair, they will influence each others capacitance reading.
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It is the job of the DSP to filter out noise and produce smooth data.
There is absolutely no jitter on my GS2.
Apple iPhone 5 also has no jitter.
Therefore I make the claim that the jitter is not "normal" for touchscreens in general, but for the N7 2013, many units exhibit this behavior, so it isn't worth trying to get a new one, because there are worse things than minor jitter.
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It is the job of the DSP to filter out noise and produce smooth data.
There is absolutely no jitter on my GS2.
Apple iPhone 5 also has no jitter.
Therefore I make the claim that the jitter is not "normal" for touchscreens in general, but for the N7 2013, many units exhibit this behavior, so it isn't worth trying to get a new one, because there are worse things than minor jitter.
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So you are saying, if you take something like 'Yet Another MultiTouch Test' that displays coordinates and a cross; put one finger on the screen and then cross the displayed lines with a second finger that the first pos doesn't move at all?
As long as I don't cross those lines there is no movement/jitter for the first finger.
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On 9 out of 10 Nexus 7 2013 I tried there is movement. On my GS2 there is no movement, nor was there movement on the iPhone 5.
I don't need to use YAMTT, the jitter is immediately apparent when doing rotations in Google Maps. The axis cross when rotating clockwise, counterclockwise.
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On 9 out of 10 Nexus 7 2013 I tried there is movement. On my GS2 there is no movement, nor was there movement on the iPhone 5.
I don't need to use YAMTT, the jitter is immediately apparent when doing rotations in Google Maps. The axis cross when rotating clockwise, counterclockwise.
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I don't need to use YAMTT, the jitter is immediately apparent when doing rotations in Google Maps. The axis cross when rotating clockwise, counterclockwise.
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That's not a challenging test - my N7 has no problem with that. But maybe, I have have one of the better ones...
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That's not a challenging test - my N7 has no problem with that. But maybe, I have have one of the better ones...
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You are welcome to your opinion.
It is very challenging for 9 of 10 N7 2013 I tested. I have never seen jitter in YAMTT that was not also reflected in Google Maps.
On N7 I turn on developer options show touches and show pointer location which is actually more direct than YAMTT because it is at the OS level.
I have run YAMTT on three units, but the reason I don't run YAMTT on all units is because some of the units I test do not have access to Internet to download it, while developer options and Google Maps are on every unit.
Just to satisfy you, I installed YAMTT on my GS2 and it is rock solid with
2 finger overlap, pinch-zoom
one finger static, the other sliding to overlap
two finger rotating and overlapping clockwise, counterclockwise
two finger overlap sliding down the screen
It is a shame that folks have gotten so used to buggy touchscreens that they are convincing themselves it is normal.
I know people who think jumpy Google maps is normal because they think it is downloading data. When they see maps on my phone, they are amazed how smooth it is on 2.5yr old technology.
I can just agree with sfhub, many people just agree with the problem an see it normal as some people said in this and other posts related. Your money doesn't have problems, why would you accept a faulty device? It's not just my GS2, even the touch screen of my galaxty 3 (low end from samsung) performs better than this, less points but all are still working today and that's a 4 years old 2.2 froyo (back up phonein case of xtreme necesity).
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So, in conclusion, the touchscreen's behaviour is not normal for touchscreens in general, but it is very common among nexus 7's.
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So, in conclusion, the touchscreen's behaviour is not normal for touchscreens in general, but it is very common among nexus 7's.
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From my experience experimenting with many units, that is accurate.
If your jitter progressed to ghost taps, stuck taps, spasdic multi-touch, dead spots/bands, then I'd start to worry.
Minor jitter, don't worry about it.
There are 2 separate issues. Jitter issue, which is not OK and should not happen. However a slight shift in position when using 2 fingers, one static and the other crossing the same axis, the static finger always has a slight shift. That is normal for many touch screens.
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Had my s4 for about two weeks and I've only encountered problems with it. It scratches easily, the screen smearing in the settings, the screen flickering when opening and closing the keyboard on low brightness, the stuttering when opening and closing apps and swiping left to right on the home screen, the pixels looking terrible when watching a movie scene in low lighting. Im disappointed in Samsung. A quad core device shouldnt have all of these problems. Especially if we're shelling out 630 dollars for these phones.
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I traded my HTC One on craigslist for this Galaxy S4 and I didnt have any of those problems.
I had one dead pixel, called tmobile and they sent me a brand new S4 to my house to swap out becaue of the dead pixel.
Not sure why your having so many problems.
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Had my s4 for about two weeks and I've only encountered problems with it. It scratches easily, the screen smearing in the settings, the screen flickering when opening and closing the keyboard on low brightness, the stuttering when opening and closing apps and swiping left to right on the home screen, the pixels looking terrible when watching a movie scene in low lighting. Im disappointed in Samsung. A quad core device shouldnt have all of these problems. Especially if we're shelling out 630 dollars for these phones.
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i could agree with you on the smearing but other than that i havent faced any of the other issues you mention, and regarding scratches are you talking about the screen or the back cover?
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i could agree with you on the smearing but other than that i havent faced any of the other issues you mention, and regarding scratches are you talking about the screen or the back cover?
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Im talking about the bezzle around the phone and around the home button. Mine came scratched out the box.
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Im talking about the bezzle around the phone and around the home button. Mine came scratched out the box.
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i am not sure if you have noticed this but the bezzle more like around the side of the phone where the aluminum body is has a plastic film covering all around (you have to look closely) , maybe the film is scratched try peeling that off and see if you notice the scratches anymore.
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i am not sure if you have noticed this but the bezzle more like around the side of the phone where the aluminum body is has a plastic film covering all around (you have to look closely) , maybe the film is scratched try peeling that off and see if you notice the scratches anymore.
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Lol yeah I know i took it off a while ago
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Im talking about the bezzle around the phone and around the home button. Mine came scratched out the box.
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I have gone caseless about 50% of the time since day one launch and my phone is still flawless. Not a single blemish anywhere. The bezel dents far less easily than my S2 that is for sure.
I get the lag from swiping left to right when touch wiz first loads, it is smooth after that. Try another launcher if you don't like that as that is touch wiz only, not the hardware. Or wait for a custom kernel.
Or get the HTC One which is nearly the same hardware aside from the screen. Or sell and try the ASOP S4?
Your post gives off an air of trying to bring others down with you. Not sure how successful you will be with that here. There are alot of ppl who like there phones on this forum
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I have gone caseless about 50% of the time since day one launch and my phone is still flawless. Not a single blemish anywhere. The bezel dents far less easily than my S2 that is for sure.
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Amen to that! I traded my s2 for the s4 and the worst issues I get are lint and a crash here or there from playing Ravensword 2 while keeping other apps open (which is my own fault). Are you able to have your phone replaced? Cause it sounds like they sold you a returned phone by mistake or intentionally
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To protect any scratches I use 2 cases. One flip cover to protect screen and another gel case outside it to protect edges. And its not bulky at all.
I am going to order s view case with extra holding (no need to change back cover ) to replace this combination.
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it's there a slim non bulky kickstand case yet? I know to look on Amazon or eBay but do anyone have personal recommendations?
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I think its your phone dude, I don't have any of those issues minus the slightest amount of lag when wiz kicks in. Return it, tell them it stopped turning on, no Samsung boot screen, nothing, that way they don't run you through a million troubleshooting steps.
Everyone here loves their phone, I think you need to just be patient and wait for devs to make some ROM tweaks and it'll blow the HTC One out of the water...
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I have gone caseless about 50% of the time since day one launch and my phone is still flawless. Not a single blemish anywhere. The bezel dents far less easily than my S2 that is for sure.
I get the lag from swiping left to right when touch wiz first loads, it is smooth after that. Try another launcher if you don't like that as that is touch wiz only, not the hardware. Or wait for a custom kernel.
Or get the HTC One which is nearly the same hardware aside from the screen. Or sell and try the ASOP S4?
Your post gives off an air of trying to bring others down with you. Not sure how successful you will be with that here. There are alot of ppl who like there phones on this forum
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Not trying to bring any one down with me. I'm expressing my experience with the s4. I love it but there are a lot of issues.
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I think its your phone dude, I don't have any of those issues minus the slightest amount of lag when wiz kicks in. Return it, tell them it stopped turning on, no Samsung boot screen, nothing, that way they don't run you through a million troubleshooting steps.
Everyone here loves their phone, I think you need to just be patient and wait for devs to make some ROM tweaks and it'll blow the HTC One out of the water...
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Thanks, I actually posted this so someone could help change my mind about sending it back.
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Thanks, I actually posted this so someone could help change my mind about sending it back.
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Well I hope we change your mind man, the more people with these phones is more incentive for the devs to work on them!!
I feel like people here are disillusioned by their own experience with the device. If you're honestly saying you don't notice a screen smear at the lowest brightness or any kind of banding whatsoever in greys at the lowest brightness, you're obviously not using an S4, or you have some rare perfect unit that Samsung had blessed by their unicorn god.
I've personally played with three S4's including my own which I've obviously spent an extensive number of time with. The AMOLED screen at low brightness definitely has a number of artifacts which someone who is sensitive too could find annoying or troublesome. I personally am used to it, because the Galaxy Nexus had the same issues at low brightness, even worse in some cases. I find it really hard to believe that all three units I used were broken in some regard and I find it even tougher to believe because AMOLED has had this problem for a while now.
As for the Touchwiz lag, that will most likely be corrected via software. As flashing Faux's kernel and using interactive governor pretty much removes the lag completely. It's obviously some type of governor scaling issue.
The other issue the S4 has is the audio crackling with low impedance IEM's. Currently there is no workaround, aside from using different headphones as Samsung calls my UE900's "not compatible" with their device. The reason why I played with three different S4's is because of this problem, which was present in all three S4's to a varying degree of annoyance.
Don't get me wrong -- the S4 is a great device, I'm keeping mine for the time being, but to pretend like it's some flawless experience is downright incorrect. It has a number of design issues that need to be remedied in order for me to go ahead and purchase another Samsung S(Anything) in the future.
Mass hysteria. Can't wait for this device. Switching to T-Mobile tomorrow =]
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Bless the unicorns, I don't have these issues. Any of them aside from touchwiz lagging after a reboot. I've turned my brightness all the way down and used the stick keyboard, Swiftkey and Swype with zero flickering; I've watched videos with no issues and examined several grey panels desperately trying to find faults and coming up blank.
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I feel like people here are disillusioned by their own experience with the device. If you're honestly saying you don't notice a screen smear at the lowest brightness or any kind of banding whatsoever in greys at the lowest brightness, you're obviously not using an S4, or you have some rare perfect unit that Samsung had blessed by their unicorn god.
I've personally played with three S4's including my own which I've obviously spent an extensive number of time with. The AMOLED screen at low brightness definitely has a number of artifacts which someone who is sensitive too could find annoying or troublesome. I personally am used to it, because the Galaxy Nexus had the same issues at low brightness, even worse in some cases. I find it really hard to believe that all three units I used were broken in some regard and I find it even tougher to believe because AMOLED has had this problem for a while now.
As for the Touchwiz lag, that will most likely be corrected via software. As flashing Faux's kernel and using interactive governor pretty much removes the lag completely. It's obviously some type of governor scaling issue.
The other issue the S4 has is the audio crackling with low impedance IEM's. Currently there is no workaround, aside from using different headphones as Samsung calls my UE900's "not compatible" with their device. The reason why I played with three different S4's is because of this problem, which was present in all three S4's to a varying degree of annoyance.
Don't get me wrong -- the S4 is a great device, I'm keeping mine for the time being, but to pretend like it's some flawless experience is downright incorrect. It has a number of design issues that need to be remedied in order for me to go ahead and purchase another Samsung S(Anything) in the future.
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Like I said before, warranty your device. Smearing and audio crackling are a known issue but only on certain batches mailed out. Surely, future ROMS will have audio patches to fix that but the screen is internal, obviously. We haven't figured out what caused it or who all has the issue but its a known thing. I wont speak on behalf of T-Mobile but being an employee I recommend just to tell them it randomly boots or doesn't power on at all; so you don't have to go through a million troubleshooting steps.
Just don't do the OTA when you get it lol
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I feel like people here are disillusioned by their own experience with the device. If you're honestly saying you don't notice a screen smear at the lowest brightness or any kind of banding whatsoever in greys at the lowest brightness, you're obviously not using an S4, or you have some rare perfect unit that Samsung had blessed by their unicorn god.
I've personally played with three S4's including my own which I've obviously spent an extensive number of time with. The AMOLED screen at low brightness definitely has a number of artifacts which someone who is sensitive too could find annoying or troublesome. I personally am used to it, because the Galaxy Nexus had the same issues at low brightness, even worse in some cases. I find it really hard to believe that all three units I used were broken in some regard and I find it even tougher to believe because AMOLED has had this problem for a while now.
As for the Touchwiz lag, that will most likely be corrected via software. As flashing Faux's kernel and using interactive governor pretty much removes the lag completely. It's obviously some type of governor scaling issue.
The other issue the S4 has is the audio crackling with low impedance IEM's. Currently there is no workaround, aside from using different headphones as Samsung calls my UE900's "not compatible" with their device. The reason why I played with three different S4's is because of this problem, which was present in all three S4's to a varying degree of annoyance.
Don't get me wrong -- the S4 is a great device, I'm keeping mine for the time being, but to pretend like it's some flawless experience is downright incorrect. It has a number of design issues that need to be remedied in order for me to go ahead and purchase another Samsung S(Anything) in the future.
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THANK YOU. +10000 I definitely LOVE my s4, but these problems are VERY annoying. My OCD is making me want to return it. Apple has definitely won the war of UI smoothness.
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THANK YOU. +10000 I definitely LOVE my s4, but these problems are VERY annoying. My OCD is making me want to return it. Apple has definitely won the war of UI smoothness.
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Well Apple has a couple of distinct advantages in that area. For starters they only have to worry about their hardware. So they can optimize all their software, SDK's, drivers, etc all for their one device. They also prioritize the graphics above everything else on the phone. Nothing short of a kernel panic is going to make the graphics hiccup/jitter in iOS. These two examples apply to other areas as well, like their audio processing latency being so low. Despite what people here say, the iPhone is definitely a sweet device.
That being said, if you haven't already you should try the HTC One. The LCD screen doesn't suffer from the same problems the AMOLED does. The interface is also much smoother. Plus you get better front facing speakers. You obviously trade off SD Card (which was one of the reasons I didn't get the One), replaceable battery, the S-Features if you like them, etc. But overall I think the One is a better experience if little things bother you.
You can try trading in your S4, but you're probably just going to end up like me, trading it and receiving a device with the same problems back.
Hello all. I just got my note 10.1 2014. I haven't been able to play a lot with it but I just noticed a serious flaw.
If I use it vertically and go let's say to a long page and scroll up or down , then the right part of the screen responds faster and the page scrolls unevenly. If I move my hand slow up and down the page scrolls like a wave.
This does not happen horizontally where everything remains straight while scrolling.
It happens on everything. Long contact list , developers option menu, gmail widget etc.
Can someone please check that? Is my note faulty or this is common?
Thanks
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Tested in Play Store, Gmail, Reddit Sync, and Tapatalk. No such issue. Little less smooth vertically, but no left/right imbalance.
Mine is very heavily imbalanced. Can this be hardware issue?
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Couldn't reproduce it, neither on the standard internet browser nor on Chrome. Maybe there is a lot going on in the background. Can you Restart the Note 10.1 and see if the problem goes away?
yes, it's there. it's also visible on the galaxy note 8. if you scroll up and down you'll see a distorted text line. it's only when scrolling, not when reading so it's not really much of an issue.
I did a factory reset. Update to latest software. Etc. It's still there. And I'm not talking about distorted text. The right party of the screen scrolls faster than the left part so the screen looks like it's bending. When I stop the scrolling its fine.
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that's what i'm talking about. a slight wobbly effect. it's just more noticable with straight objects like type. a guy posted a video on the gn 8 forums:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4-tKflikYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
That is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. It's more noticeable if I have the Samsung logo on the right hand. So strange but seems that I have to live with it.
Thanks!
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Hello all. I just got my note 10.1 2014. I haven't been able to play a lot with it but I just noticed a serious flaw.
If I use it vertically and go let's say to a long page and scroll up or down , then the right part of the screen responds faster and the page scrolls unevenly. If I move my hand slow up and down the page scrolls like a wave.
This does not happen horizontally where everything remains straight while scrolling.
It happens on everything. Long contact list , developers option menu, gmail widget etc.
Can someone please check that? Is my note faulty or this is common?
Thanks
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Ahhhh yes...This is a hard one to explain but I know exactly what you are talking about. I first noticed this occurrence when I briefly had the Nexus 10. It was really bad on that tablet. So bad it was to the point where I could not hold it in portrait any more. It was so annoying. I ultimately returned it for light bleed but blamed the screen "wave" while scrolling to an under powered GPU.
So after I returned the N10 I went back to my HP Touchpad with ICS to await the next great 10 inch tablet to come out (took a year). Anyways, I started to notice it on there as well!! But it was much harder to see. I did a little researching on the interwebs and its a hard thing to describe and search for.
I tested it on many tablets in store to see if I could replicate it and the only ones that had it bad were the high def ones with high PPI counts. 1920 x 1200 pixels and up mainly.
I did more research and from what I read it is the fact that there are so many pixels that when you scroll they all are not changing exactly accross at the same time. So as the screen refreshes there is a slight delay from the first row to the last row when scrolling.
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Warning this is one of those "once you see it you cant unsee it ever again" things.....have your note 2014 in portrait with the buttons on the left, find a website with a lot of text that you can scroll (reddit.com), now scroll up and down in a fluid motion going about a full page length each way. The pixels on the left side of the screen are slightly behind the ones on the right. I guarantee it happens on yours too....
There is no fix for this. It just comes with the territory when you start getting into big ultra high def screens. I'm sure in the future they will probably hash this out but right now this is what we get. But I will say the screen on the Galaxy Note 2014 is far less "wavy" than the Nexus 10. If you don't believe me go to a store with an N10 put it in portrait and scroll with that. It's pretty bad.
All in all the "scroll wave" on the Note 2014 is not bad at all in my opinion. I just wanted to let you know that you are not the only one and it happens all across the board in varying degrees. I'm happy with mine just how it is and use it in portrait all the time
Side note: It's much harder to see on cell phones if at all. Not sure why but it's probably easier to see when you have a 10 inch.
Side note 2: When you hold it in landscape the effect is much harder to see because you are not scrolling left to right much it's up and down. But if you look closely you can see a slight "accordion" effect. Its the same principle but just harder to see. Again it's really not that bad on the Note 2014.
On a site note, I've seen that wobbly scrolling get introduced with a recent OTA on Note 8.0 so it's a software/driver issue.
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On a site note, I've seen that wobbly scrolling get introduced with a recent OTA on Note 8.0 so it's a software/driver issue.
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Interesting....I can replicate it on many devices across many different hardware manufacturers though. It's like one of the first things I check when I play around with tablets. The constant is that it seems to be the high res ones and only in certain holding positions like portrait or landscape. But most of them do it from what I recall. I do want to try it on an ipad though...I tend to steer clear of those
Also with that thinking then my HP Touchpad, Nexus 10 and Note 2014 all have software/driver issues. Let alone all the ones in the store you can replicate it with like the note 8, ASUS tranformer infinity, etc. So then they all have bad software/drivers? I just don't think it's likely. Some screens are better than others with this but there seems to be a common theme here...high PPI count on large screens.
Bumping an old post, but has anybody seen any improvement with this in the last 10 months?
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Bumping an old post, but has anybody seen any improvement with this in the last 10 months?
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Of course not since we haven't received any update anyway. Just use it horizontally and you won't notice it
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Hello everyone,
after 4 returns of LG G Pads, all of which had screen issues (adhesive yellow lines, light bleeding, 7 light spots of doom at the bottom) I've decided to up my game and move to 10.1 as something futureproof and fun to own...
However most issues pop AFTER we get our hands on the tablet. As such, I would like to ask the owners. Hand over heart - what are the + and - and what are the most common issues (if any) reported with this tablet?
Thinking of buying it from Pcworld today.
Thank you
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Hello everyone,
after 4 returns of LG G Pads, all of which had screen issues (adhesive yellow lines, light bleeding, 7 light spots of doom at the bottom) I've decided to up my game and move to 10.1 as something futureproof and fun to own...
However most issues pop AFTER we get our hands on the tablet. As such, I would like to ask the owners. Hand over heart - what are the + and - and what are the most common issues (if any) reported with this tablet?
Thinking of buying it from Pcworld today.
Thank you
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There were some early assembly issues (S Pen loose in silo, speaker grills uneven or loose, BT connectivity issues) that seem to have abated because after the wave of early builds they haven't been mentioned lately. If you're a lag-freak the N10.1-14 does suffer from the occasional transition stutter or milliseconds of lag opening and closing apps. I'd peg it as lag free 95% of the time. We're getting Magazine UX/4.4 soon and the Tab/Pro's shown on video from their CES launch looked much smoother than the N10.1-14. Do you have better than 20/20 vision? A couple of people who do (or apparently do) have noticed some display anomalies when looking at certain content; most likely because of the N10.1-14's RGBW PenTile display. I can't replicate it but have only mere mortal vision.
The top reasons to get the N10.1-14 are:
Display. I think it's gorgeous no matter what anyone else says and I compare it against my N3 everyday.
Form factor. Amazingly light, slim, and small for a 10" tablet.
Doing stuff. S Pen, S Note, Multi View, Action Memo, Scrap Book and the like are huge productivity benefits and once you start using them they are hard to live without. I'm on my second round of "Notes" with the N3 and N10.1-14 replacing my N2 and N10.1-12.
The top reasons not to buy it:
You're a pure consumption user. All of the extra features of the N10.1-14 use a lot of resources and if you're not going to use them will just be annoying. You pay a lot of money for the N10.1-14 because of those features (and premium h/w that's needed to power them) and to not use them will leave you frustrated.
You're a lag-freak. As it stands there's some stuttering, hesitation, and lag about 5% of the time. It's most prominent when there's a bunch of background processing going on. Some of the proprietary apps can throw up a spinning wheel while they're processing. For example you can move content between two apps open in Multi View. It's not always instant. You can also use Air Command to copy full screens of content from various sources to be saved in your Scrap Book. It too isn't instant.
You have super human vision or live-and-die by a "perfect" display. Some people here (a half dozen?) are really freaking out about some anomalies they've detected in the display. Interestingly, other than a single reviewer who actually has 20/15 vision mentioning he noticed "something different" about the display no one outside XDA has mentioned what some folks here have found/described. The difference between a RGB display and the N10.1-14's PenTile display is that because of an indirect sub-pixel arrangement, in certain situations like specific saturated colors on specific backgrounds, there can be detectable imperfections on certain content. You can read more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2615750. Since you're leaving the G Pad over its display do yourself (and the forum ) a favor and make sure your display expectations are met before you buy a N10.1-14.
Assuming you're not buying an LTE version, the Wi-Fi and 3G versions take a looong time to charge; as long as seven hours to get to 100%.
Happy shopping.
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There were some early assembly issues (S Pen loose in silo, speaker grills uneven or loose, BT connectivity issues) that seem to have abated because after the wave of early builds they haven't been mentioned lately. If you're a lag-freak the N10.1-14 does suffer from the occasional transition stutter or milliseconds of lag opening and closing apps. I'd peg it as lag free 95% of the time. We're getting Magazine UX/4.4 soon and the Tab/Pro's shown on video from their CES launch looked much smoother than the N10.1-14. Do you have better than 20/20 vision? A couple of people who do (or apparently do) have noticed some display anomalies when looking at certain content; most likely because of the N10.1-14's RGBW PenTile display. I can't replicate it but have only mere mortal vision.
The top reasons to get the N10.1-14 are:
Display. I think it's gorgeous no matter what anyone else says and I compare it against my N3 everyday.
Form factor. Amazingly light, slim, and small for a 10" tablet.
Doing stuff. S Pen, S Note, Multi View, Action Memo, Scrap Book and the like are huge productivity benefits and once you start using them they are hard to live without. I'm on my second round of "Notes" with the N3 and N10.1-14 replacing my N2 and N10.1-12.
The top reasons not to buy it:
You're a pure consumption user. All of the extra features of the N10.1-14 use a lot of resources and if you're not going to use them will just be annoying. You pay a lot of money for the N10.1-14 because of those features (and premium h/w that's needed to power them) and to not use them will leave you frustrated.
You're a lag-freak. As it stands there's some stuttering, hesitation, and lag about 5% of the time. It's most prominent when there's a bunch of background processing going on. Some of the proprietary apps can throw up a spinning wheel while they're processing. For example you can move content between two apps open in Multi View. It's not always instant. You can also use Air Command to copy full screens of content from various sources to be saved in your Scrap Book. It too isn't instant.
You have super human vision or live-and-die by a "perfect" display. Some people here (a half dozen?) are really freaking out about some anomalies they've detected in the display. Interestingly, other than a single reviewer who actually has 20/15 vision mentioning he noticed "something different" about the display no one outside XDA has mentioned what some folks here have found/described. The difference between a RGB display and the N10.1-14's PenTile display is that because of an indirect sub-pixel arrangement, in certain situations like specific saturated colors on specific backgrounds, there can be detectable imperfections on certain content. You can read more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2615750. Since you're leaving the G Pad over its display do yourself (and the forum ) a favor and make sure your display expectations are met before you buy a N10.1-14.
Assuming you're not buying an LTE version, the Wi-Fi and 3G versions take a looong time to charge; as long as seven hours to get to 100%.
Happy shopping.
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I have owned (and loved) an S4 before it got stolen and I moved to my Z1.
I never had an issue with Samsung, but I do remember the occasional lag/stutter. I think it's to be used to.
The main reasons why I opted for the 10.1 are:
- The stylus + multi window. I do a lot of reading/writing and I often carry a paperbook around when I read a book to keep notes. But I am not the most tidy of persons, and I thought that operating a 10.1 in multiwindow instead would allow me to keep notes as I kindled through content.
- The specs appear future proof and XDA appears to have a good community for customing Samsungs. With cleanroms and what not, I am hoping to be able to keep the functionality of the Stylus along with a more lag free experience.
- Yes, I enjoy my movies and online magazine content, so the screen is important to me.
I will order one and hope to see it arrive by tomorrow. I can always return it within 7 days, but I doubt I will (Light bleed or faulty screens however are an immediate no go for me ! )
AS a 10.1 owner, do you think my reasons are valid? Thanks for your feedback
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I have owned (and loved) an S4 before it got stolen and I moved to my Z1.
I never had an issue with Samsung, but I do remember the occasional lag/stutter. I think it's to be used to.
The main reasons why I opted for the 10.1 are:
- The stylus + multi window. I do a lot of reading/writing and I often carry a paperbook around when I read a book to keep notes. But I am not the most tidy of persons, and I thought that operating a 10.1 in multiwindow instead would allow me to keep notes as I kindled through content.
- The specs appear future proof and XDA appears to have a good community for customing Samsungs. With cleanroms and what not, I am hoping to be able to keep the functionality of the Stylus along with a more lag free experience.
- Yes, I enjoy my movies and online magazine content, so the screen is important to me.
I will order one and hope to see it arrive by tomorrow. I can always return it within 7 days, but I doubt I will (Light bleed or faulty screens however are an immediate no go for me ! )
AS a 10.1 owner, do you think my reasons are valid? Thanks for your feedback
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Up until a few days ago everyone here almost universally loved the display. A couple of people started ragging on it just recently. I wouldn't have even mentioned the display as anything but "outstanding" if not for those few people's recent comments. I've tried to replicate each of the scenarios they are bothered by and just can't. One of them admitted to 20/15 vision so s/he may be seeing imperfections I don't. People that have bought the N10.1-14 on my recommendation (with the display playing a large part) have been universally pleased.
As for lag and such my i7 gaming desktop with 12GB of RAM and 10K RPM drives lags occasionally. I shrug while others will blow away and rebuild Windows over it. To each their own.
Based on what you've described you'll be blown away by the N10.1-14's productivity features. But give them some time before drawing a conclusion. Being developed by Asian's for Western users the functionality isn't always intuitive or well presented. It is logical though and the more you use it the more comfortable you become with it.
I have a 3G version that I bought in the U.S. as an import and paid an un-Godly price for it. Almost twice the $389 some people that are complaining about certain aspects of the N10.1-14 paid during a recent refurb promotion that ran. I'm happy but it's hard to anticipate what makes others happy. After the past couple of days of pretty brutal discussion on lag and the display (which I don't personally agree with) I've learned not to project my expectations and what satisfies them on to others.
Based on your list I think you'll be happy though. And even happier when we get moved to 4.4/M-UX which is imminent because leaks have started to appear.
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Up until a few days ago everyone here almost universally loved the display. A couple of people started ragging on it just recently. I wouldn't have even mentioned the display as anything but "outstanding" if not for those few people's recent comments. I've tried to replicate each of the scenarios they are bothered by and just can't. One of them admitted to 20/15 vision so s/he may be seeing imperfections I don't. People that have bought the N10.1-14 on my recommendation (with the display playing a large part) have been universally pleased.
As for lag and such my i7 gaming desktop with 12GB of RAM and 10K RPM drives lags occasionally. I shrug while others will blow away and rebuild Windows over it. To each their own.
Based on what you've described you'll be blown away by the N10.1-14's productivity features. But give them some time before drawing a conclusion. Being developed by Asian's for Western users the functionality isn't always intuitive or well presented. It is logical though and the more you use it the more comfortable you become with it.
I have a 3G version that I bought in the U.S. as an import and paid an un-Godly price for it. Almost twice the $389 some people that are complaining about certain aspects of the N10.1-14 paid during a recent refurb promotion that ran. I'm happy but it's hard to anticipate what makes others happy. After the past couple of days of pretty brutal discussion on lag and the display (which I don't personally agree with) I've learned not to project my expectations and what satisfies them on to others.
Based on your list I think you'll be happy though. And even happier when we get moved to 4.4/M-UX which is imminent because leaks have started to appear.
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Just came home from pc world and saw the note...
It has yellow discoloration at the edges, and on the sides, visible on the whites..Just like the lg g pads i was forced to return...
I am terrified my unit tomorrow will suffer from the same. Can I be that unlucky?
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Or your eye's are extremely sensitive to light? My Note 10.1 2014 is my 4th tablet to own. Out of the one's I've owned, only my original Nexus 7 had a slight light bleed on one side. I've not experienced such an issue with my Note 10.1 2014.
I also do not notice the PenTile grid that some people keep pointing out on the Note 10.1 2014. I've seen the PenTile grid a couple times on my Galaxy S3 when fooling with the brightness and depending on the lighting, but I've yet to see it on my Note 10.1 2014.
As Barry has mentioned, there are a lot of different factors that could be an issue for some folks. If you have the brightness up, you're sitting under a bright light, you have better than average eye sight, there are many reasons you could see an anomaly or part of the device such as the PenTile grid.
Generally the picture is really crisp and clear unless I load a website that is using some low resolution images on the site. Those appear fuzzy and stand out compared to the crisp text.
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No,no, I had a friend with me. We were both mocking Ipads and how they had a known yellow tint issue on left hand side.
Then I walked over to the note 10.1 2014 (mine is arriving tomorrow by delivery), and against whites there was an obvious yellow discoloration on the bottom right corner, as if from leftover adhesive or what not. I've not read ANYTHING like that for the notes, but I just finished returning the 4th lg g pad over it (if you go over to the lg g pad section of xda, under general and QA/Screen quality, you will see what I speak of..)
At this point all I can do is pray haha
Good luck with your note. I have had mine for a few months now and have yet to experience any sort of issues with the screen. Demo units at stores I think are more likely to have issues because of the amount of wear and abuse they get rom random people/kids fondling them.
So far this tablet is totally forgotten by Samsung.
I'm still at mj6 for 3 months, the tablet lags , the lock screen takes 3 secs to wake up and Samsung does not even care.
My advice stay away from note 10.1 2014.
Why care for a product that's already forgotten by the manufacturer?
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Lympe said:
So far this tablet is totally forgotten by Samsung.
I'm still at mj6 for 3 months, the tablet lags , the lock screen takes 3 secs to wake up and Samsung does not even care.
My advice stay away from note 10.1 2014.
Why care for a product that's already forgotten by the manufacturer?
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I've hard of occasional lag but I doubt a 3-4 month old tab has been forgotten
Well here is my first review.
A beautiful tablet, but a bit on the heavy side. Unfortunately I am returning this one as well - severe light bleeding on the bottom and right side in landscape mode. at least 8-9 spots illuminating the screen.
I think God's telling me to drop the tablet idea altogether..
I might try once more with the note though, it really does look beautiful
Tablets as a form factor
evak2979 said:
Well here is my first review.
A beautiful tablet, but a bit on the heavy side. Unfortunately I am returning this one as well - severe light bleeding on the bottom and right side in landscape mode. at least 8-9 spots illuminating the screen.
I think God's telling me to drop the tablet idea altogether..
I might try once more with the note though, it really does look beautiful
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This tablet is fast and smooth. I have noticed light bleed on all tablets that I have owned (nexus 7, nexus 7 2013, Asus Tranformer Ifinity TF-701, Samsung Note 10.1 2014.
I am happy with this new tablet, since some selfish bastard broke into my house and stole my TF-701. This tablet by far has the best resolution, and the best display of all I have owned. The light bleed is minimal compared to the nexus 7s.
Maybe I got a good one, or I have just gotten used to light bleed on larger formats.
I would recommend this tablet, as long as you are comfortable with Touchwiz, and Samsung's way of doing things.
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This tablet is fast and smooth. I have noticed light bleed on all tablets that I have owned (nexus 7, nexus 7 2013, Asus Tranformer Ifinity TF-701, Samsung Note 10.1 2014.
I am happy with this new tablet, since some selfish bastard broke into my house and stole my TF-701. This tablet by far has the best resolution, and the best display of all I have owned. The light bleed is minimal compared to the nexus 7s.
Maybe I got a good one, or I have just gotten used to light bleed on larger formats.
I would recommend this tablet, as long as you are comfortable with Touchwiz, and Samsung's way of doing things.
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It looks wonderful but mine had severe light bleeding, 6 distinct spots at left side, 4 at bottom, nothing symmetrical about them. Getting one from John lewis tomorrow hoping I will be lucky ☺
evak2979 said:
It looks wonderful but mine had severe light bleeding, 6 distinct spots at left side, 4 at bottom, nothing symmetrical about them. Getting one from John lewis tomorrow hoping I will be lucky ☺
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New unit light bleed as well. 5 spots at bottom (which i didn't really mind, small ones), big one at top though...
Let's see how the next one does. I'll be getting a note, for sure. But I want to get bang for my buck Thank God for John Lewis return service, so let's see...
P.S. Whomever stated that Ipad air is superior to this device is a moron like no other...
I just picked one up about 2 hours ago from Brandsmart. With the display at 100% on a black background it has 6 at the bottom. It looks like small spot lights shinning up. It's charging now but if I notice it with normal use I will return it. I also have the tab 3 10.1 I got for Xmas. It had a few bad spots so I swapped it out. Now I'm good to go. Some are just worse then others. Kind of like women
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Peeodee said:
I just picked one up about 2 hours ago from Brandsmart. With the display at 100% on a black background it has 6 at the bottom. It looks like small spot lights shinning up. It's charging now but if I notice it with normal use I will return it. I also have the tab 3 10.1 I got for Xmas. It had a few bad spots so I swapped it out. Now I'm good to go. Some are just worse then others. Kind of like women
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Look at this :/
I am going to try a couple more times and then give up altogether.
P.S., this is the second one., compared to my new N 7 2013. First was FAR worse. Seeing this comparison I think I'll pass on the excuse that lightbleeding is part of the LCD technology
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Look at this :/
I am going to try a couple more times and then give up altogether.
P.S., this is the second one., compared to my new N 7 2013. First was FAR worse. Seeing this comparison I think I'll pass on the excuse that lightbleeding is part of the LCD technology
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Whatever note you get you will get light bleed, but don't see the problem if it isn't noticeable in normal use, I never sit in dark room with the brightness full with a black screen, do u?
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Whatever note you get you will get light bleed, but don't see the problem if it isn't noticeable in normal use, I never sit in dark room with the brightness full with a black screen, do u?
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It was visible watching a movie full brightness in a lit room, and very noticeable at 40% brightness in a dark room. For 450 pounds I definitely have a problem with it especially since my travelling budget device (199 pounds) out performs with same style of panel...
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It was visible watching a movie full brightness in a lit room, and very noticeable at 40% brightness in a dark room. For 450 pounds I definitely have a problem with it especially since my travelling budget device (199 pounds) out performs with same style of panel...
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Mine is fine. At 100% brightness on a black background it shows a little on some angles but watching movies or viewing pics it's not bleeding into the screen.
Yeah yours looked bad.
Good luck
Peeodee said:
Mine is fine. At 100% brightness on a black background it shows a little on some angles but watching movies or viewing pics it's not bleeding into the screen.
Yeah yours looked bad.
Good luck
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Thanks mate I am glad you got a good unit....3 pieces inc tomorrow. 3 pieces. One has to be good !!!
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Thanks mate I am glad you got a good unit....3 pieces inc tomorrow. 3 pieces. One has to be good !!!
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Here's mine at 100%
Hi Guys,
Recently reverted back to Android from iOS. I have had low end and mid range Android devices for development purposes as well as a Windows Phone devices all the way through.
Since taking up the HTC M8 as my day to day device, I have been noticing issues (teeth grindingly frustrating issues) regarding touch screen accuracy and responsiveness.
A prime example of this is when using a browser (Any browser, on both GPE and Sense editions). When making a pinch to zoom gestures, my fingers can move almost half an inch apart before the actual zoom process begins. I have tested this on a Samsung GS4 and found this not to be the case on that device. I believe the root cause of this problem is also behind the poor accuracy when typing on *any* keyboard (i find myself re-writing words again and again despite the larger screen size, you'd expect larger on screen keys would equal less frequent miss stokes...). Again this is not the case on the GS4.
I have used a multitouch testing tool to gauge some measure of response time and touch latency. I have found when moving points at any rate of velocity they begin to lag quite substantially behind my finger. I don't know if this is part of the same problem.
I am wondering if anyone could shed light on whether this is an issue with display touch sensitivity settings, something which could be changed at the kernel level or a limitation with the hardware itself,
Is it also possible that the same algorithm used to detect and handle touch for devices with smaller screen real estate is still being used and that the distances and tolerances for touch and gesture recognition are acting proportionally to the screen size.
Hopefully this is something we can fix, it makes the device tiresome to type with and feel clunky and unresponsive.
The screen on this phone has a higher touch response then the iPhone
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Go in a store and check out another phone. If yours turns out to be defective (which should be the case), you should get it replaced
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No issues with mine.it's better than iPhone5s I had. Which had some issues sensing touch on corners of display
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sabianadmin said:
Hi Guys,
Recently reverted back to Android from iOS. I have had low end and mid range Android devices for development purposes as well as a Windows Phone devices all the way through.
Since taking up the HTC M8 as my day to day device, I have been noticing issues (teeth grindingly frustrating issues) regarding touch screen accuracy and responsiveness.
A prime example of this is when using a browser (Any browser, on both GPE and Sense editions). When making a pinch to zoom gestures, my fingers can move almost half an inch apart before the actual zoom process begins. I have tested this on a Samsung GS4 and found this not to be the case on that device. I believe the root cause of this problem is also behind the poor accuracy when typing on *any* keyboard (i find myself re-writing words again and again despite the larger screen size, you'd expect larger on screen keys would equal less frequent miss stokes...). Again this is not the case on the GS4.
I have used a multitouch testing tool to gauge some measure of response time and touch latency. I have found when moving points at any rate of velocity they begin to lag quite substantially behind my finger. I don't know if this is part of the same problem.
I am wondering if anyone could shed light on whether this is an issue with display touch sensitivity settings, something which could be changed at the kernel level or a limitation with the hardware itself,
Is it also possible that the same algorithm used to detect to handle touch for devices with smaller screen real estate is still being used and that the distances and tolerances for touch and gesture recognition are acting proportionally to the screen size.
Hopefully this is something we can fix, it makes the device tiresome to type with and feel clunky and unresponsive.
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If you have just moved from the iPhone, then this is a slight orientation problem ... and actually the M8 is the nearest you can get in terms of responsiveness to an iPhone, thanks to the fastest screen response time on the market ... for keyboard, you need to deliberately slow your finger speed down for few days and then you get used to it ... Screen/phone size also play a part in your typing because your mind can remember sub-consciously how much finger movement to do for typing ..
All the above is assuming you were an avid typist for long time on an iPhone
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If you have just moved from the iPhone, then this is a slight orientation problem ... and actually the M8 is the nearest you can get in terms of responsiveness to an iPhone, thanks to the fastest screen response time on the market ... for keyboard, you need to deliberately slow your finger speed down for few days and then you get used to it ... Screen/phone size also play a part in your typing because your mind can remember sub-consciously how much finger movement to do for typing ..
All the above is assuming you were an avid typist for long time on an iPhone
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Thanks for all the replies, it is likely that its a transitional issue alright. But before i write it off as such, can anyone verify the issues regarding pinch to zoom? Just trying to figure out if it is a faulty device i have on my hands or not
I get the exactly the same issues. I really thought it was me .
However I had the HTC One M7 and had no issue whatsoever.
LG G2 also same no issues .But since getting
HTC One M8, the touch accuracy is well absolutely useless. I am forever correcting what I type.
I don't think its the hardware but something to do with the Algorithm..No matter what keyboard you use or calibration you do. doesn't make any difference
I am hoping that lollipop cures this problem..
My touch accuracy has always been great. I'd say that if yours isn't it's a hardware problem.
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The screen on this phone has a higher touch response then the iPhone
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I tried the m8 and iphone 6 instore and compared them. The m8 screen is very sensitive, requiring minimal touch to be activated. This may be why tests are showing that the m8 has a faster touch response. However, when dragging your finger along the screen, such as swiping launcher screens, the iphone is more responsive.
I then tested "show touches" on the m8, the touch lags behind my finger.
Hello everyone,
I was wondering is there a way in increase the sensitivity on the edges of the screen or disable the palm rejection feature with APK on the pixel 6 pro?
I'm having a difficult time hitting certain ticks or cues on the edges of the screen when using certain apps. I've found myself having to purposefully aim slightly to the left or right depending on which side of the screen I am on.
Thanks for any input!
Hi esoplayer,
What kind of navigation do you use on your phone? Gestures, or the navigation bar. I was wondering if it was the gesture navigation that was getting in the way, possibly. I use gestures too, now, but I stuck with the navigation bar before I got my P6P.
Hey RoirraW,
I started with the gestures, but I found myself having to reach too far sometimes with my thumb in one handed use, or I would be swiping in a photo app and cause the back function to trigger.
I am currently using the navigation bar because of that, and it's also what I'm used to using coming from using the galaxy line of phones.
I thought that would clear it up too, but it's still giving me some troubles when trying to interact close to the fold of the edge screen.
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I thought that would clear it up too, but it's still giving me some troubles when trying to interact close to the fold of the edge screen.
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I see, well that's one possibility eliminated. For what it's worth, using my P6P in an OtterBox Defender case, I assumed my occasional trouble at the sides of the screen (but not that often) was because of the curve combined with the edge of the case, but maybe not.
Yeah I have the same issue and my case is not the culprit for sure, the screen edge does not respond to clicks even most times scrolling can be very frustrating if your trying to scroll to a very specific spot, very often I have to click or press that part of the screen 3-4 times before it registers
esoplayer said:
Hello everyone,
I was wondering is there a way in increase the sensitivity on the edges of the screen or disable the palm rejection feature with APK on the pixel 6 pro?
I'm having a difficult time hitting certain ticks or cues on the edges of the screen when using certain apps. I've found myself having to purposefully aim slightly to the left or right depending on which side of the screen I am on.
Thanks for any input!
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There is a bug that has been appearing since Feb with the Pixel 6 Pro. I experienced it a few months ago when re-flashing stock (it's an AOSP bug that has also appeared in custom ROMs).
This bug makes an invisible border around all edges (about 1 inch). When you long press on say the outer edges of Gboard (say numbers 1 and 0, q and p), do you experience issues?
Palm rejection has never been great on Pixels. It's decent, but it's not great. It's an old problem of Android (even though Samsung has it worked out mostly), plus Windows laptops also struggle with that. Only products I've seen yet with decent palm rejection are IPads.
Hmmm, perhaps this is a hit or miss issue amongst different apps as I rarely experience this problem. IIRC, I think I have experienced it in the Outlook app and haven't noticed it in any other applications. Weird...