I desperately want to use my phone with a usb OTG cable plugged into a USB DAC, (specifically the audioquest dragonfly), plugged into my power amp. I have spent hours scouring forums and articles trying to find out if this is possible and have come up with no good solid answer. Will someone please let me know if it is possible, and if it is, exactly, (step by step), what I need to do in order to make this work.
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I have an el-cheapo USB DAC and it works perfectly.
I also have a Behringer Xenyx mixer with USB interface which also works perfectly; stereo playback and stereo recording.
I use a hifime mini DAC via otg and a fiio Mont blanc amp, works well and drives my beyerdynamic DT 1350s well.
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Rebel908 said:
I use a hifime mini DAC via otg and a fiio Mont blanc amp, works well and drives my beyerdynamic DT 1350s well.
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how much did that setup cost you? i know the price of the beyer's. i mean the dac and the fiio? i'm not sure if i need the amp for the 32 ohm version of the dt 770's of do i? what ohm version are your's?
abrego47 said:
how much did that setup cost you? i know the price of the beyer's. i mean the dac and the fiio? i'm not sure if i need the amp for the 32 ohm version of the dt 770's of do i? what ohm version are your's?
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I would always recommend getting a amp for a portal device, although ultimately the question is if the device has enough juice to drive the full power of the amps.
My set up cost 150 bucks approximately. The biggest issue is that you need to make sure the device supports OTG. The one does but my N4 doesn't without custom kernel.
Nuforce makes a combined android dac/amp but it's roughly 300.
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Rebel908 said:
I would always recommend getting a amp for a portal device, although ultimately the question is if the device has enough juice to drive the full power of the amps.
My set up cost 150 bucks approximately. The biggest issue is that you need to make sure the device supports OTG. The one does but my N4 doesn't without custom kernel.
Nuforce makes a combined android dac/amp but it's roughly 300.
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thanks, i mainly use my one to listen to music while i play online. i plan on buying the 32 ohm beyer's, but if i need an amp for them i will buy one for them. thanks again for the reply :good:
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been searching and searching with no luck.
im using nschiwy-sparkplug120 rom
Any body know what chipset it has and if i can use the usb line out for audio?
and if yes on the usb line out.. can i just get a microusb to 3.5mm audio adapter from amazon?
Why not just use the headphones Jack?
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roflhorse said:
Why not just use the headphones Jack?
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I can use the headphone jack but its not a clean source.. like a line out.
I have audiophile headphones and want to connect the incredible to my fiio e17 portable dac/headphone amplifier... the best sound comes from a line out from the usb that will get amped from my dac/amp... then get sent to my headphones. Since i have my incredible sitting around.
a couple of companys make high end mp3/amplified portable players.. the Vamp from vmoda is a portable amp that allows an iphone 4 to doc in it is $600 so thats $600 plus an iphone 4.. Ibasso makes a high end android player with a awesome amp... is $800.. Hifiman makes an awesome portable mp3 player that can drive some pretty hard to drive headphones is $600..
So if i can use a clean line out audio signal from my free incredible and connect it to the line in from my pretty good Fiio dac/amp then i have a pretty darn inexpensive solution to my sensitive/subjective ears.
sorry to get too detailed.. but i am a audiophile with a severely limited budget.
Well, I did not know that. I would think the closest thing you will find is the video output cables to do this job. If memory serves, it is the standard left and right audio channels, and video. Of course you would need another cable to convert to 3.5mm jack, which is not a very clean or good looking method.
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Seeing threads about USB DACs around and the recent Jelly Bean update enabling USB DAC support, I thought we could compile a list of users who have tested their DACs with the HOX. Similar to the Jelly Bean update thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1967980) , we could share information on our update and the devices tested against that update.
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cccy said:
Seeing threads about USB DACs around and the recent Jelly Bean update enabling USB DAC support, I thought we could compile a list of users who have tested their DACs with the HOX. Similar to the Jelly Bean update thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1967980) , we could share information on our update and the devices tested against that update.
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hi sorry for digging out old topic, but i can confirm that Fiio E07k DAC is working perfectly with HOX via usb OTG cable, cheers, InsertCoin 15.0.1, HBOOT 1.39, CID:001
Sorry.. but usb dac is portable amp for speaker or headphone right? can anyone of you give suggestion to buy it? And is it really have high advantage over normal use of headphone? Thank you.
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Sorry.. but usb dac is portable amp for speaker or headphone right? can anyone of you give suggestion to buy it? And is it really have high advantage over normal use of headphone? Thank you.
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I'm using it mostly time as a portable amp form my headphones, sometimes with laptop. Is it big advantage? It really depends on headphones you are using, are they easy to drive by internal amp of the phone or not. In my case i have big difference in sound, my hox just couldn't manage to drive my AudioTechnica M-50s fully, so i bought an amp. Cheers.
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I'm using it mostly time as a portable amp form my headphones, sometimes with laptop. Is it big advantage? It really depends on headphones you are using, are they easy to drive by internal amp of the phone or not. In my case i have big difference in sound, my hox just couldn't manage to drive my AudioTechnica M-50s fully, so i bought an amp. Cheers.
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Thank you for reply.. Which mean i need semi pro or professional headphone to make it fully work? Can you suggest a good usd dac for me?
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nashshafrulrezza said:
Thank you for reply.. Which mean i need semi pro or professional headphone to make it fully work? Can you suggest a good usd dac for me?
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It's hard to say, there's two important things: first is which headphones you have or gonna buy, second which dac to buy then (there is many of them and i can't tell you which one is working with hox, that's why this topic was made for). Hopefully there will be bigger feedback from users, telling us which amps are working or not so you can pick up yours then, cheers.
where does it get the extra power from?
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where does it get the extra power from?
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They have built in battery which you can charge, so no problem with power.
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They have built in battery which you can charge, so no problem with power.
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I've seen plenty of DAC's without an internal battery but only usb-powered. You'll need an otg cable for that. I tend to use an external hdd for my tablet to watch movies down the road and I use one of those usb external batteries. Works like a charm. I myself use a DAC for my raspberry pi and it doesn't have an internal battery, do otg is yet again the way to go.
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I've seen plenty of DAC's without an internal battery but only usb-powered. You'll need an otg cable for that. I tend to use an external hdd for my tablet to watch movies down the road and I use one of those usb external batteries. Works like a charm. I myself use a DAC for my raspberry pi and it doesn't have an internal battery, do otg is yet again the way to go.
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You are right, but we are talking about amps you can use with hox, which means they must be portable, so they should have battery. Somehow can't imagine going outside with few batteries, hox and amp in my pocket cheers
Hey guys, nice to see this thread. I just want to buy a portable amplifier with my HOX. But I need your suggestion as I never use one. Currently, I have AKG 518DJ, and I think I am going to get a FiiO E7 or FiiO E11. What do you guys think? Is it worth? Thank you
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Hey guys, nice to see this thread. I just want to buy a portable amplifier with my HOX. But I need your suggestion as I never use one. Currently, I have AKG 518DJ, and I think I am going to get a FiiO E7 or FiiO E11. What do you guys think? Is it worth? Thank you
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Hi, as far i know e7 works with HOX for sure, don't know about e11, but if it does take e11, but if you'll take e7 better add few bucks and take e07k, as i see
u have akg 518dj and they are quite bassy headphones so u don't need an extra bass which e11 can deliver over e7, hopefully i could help cheers
Is there any way to get a line out cable for a HTC One X so I can use it with my FiiO amp?
I really miss the downgraded sound quality from my mp3 player.
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Is there any way to get a line out cable for a HTC One X so I can use it with my FiiO amp?
I really miss the downgraded sound quality from my mp3 player.
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A 3.5 adapter to the bigger one (forget size, the one for mics and guitar leads) you can get pretty cheap on eBay or if you're in uk (I think only uk) can try maplin.
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treebill said:
A 3.5 adapter to the bigger one (forget size, the one for mics and guitar leads) you can get pretty cheap on eBay or if you're in uk (I think only uk) can try maplin.
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thanks for the reply but that would double amp it
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thanks for the reply but that would double amp it
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I successfully plugged a usb sound card into mine as a test (i was after the Mic in function for recording) however the line out also worked. I just used a cheap one on ebay but you can get better. You need a usb otg cable which will allow you to plug a usb dongle into it.
You can do this test for under 10 EUR then think about more expensive devices if its what you need.
Good luck
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I dont think that it is possible to get line out from hox
Unless you are willing to do some serious modifications to your phone (eg soldering to the motherboard) your best bet is indeed using a usb sound card through usb-host. But like you said, this would still be double-amping. Depending on your budget you could find some pretty decent adapters on amazon or ebay. Top-of-the-line would be the Audioquest Dragonfly but It'd set you at around $250,- which for me personally is not worth the dollar.
An mhl adaptor will also get you audio out in hdmi format if that's any use.
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Does anyone know if one exists? I would love to have a single cable in my phone to charge and for audio. Unfortunately my car stereo (Audi rnse) doesn't support Bluetooth streaming.
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Does anyone know if one exists? I would love to have a single cable in my phone to charge and for audio. Unfortunately my car stereo (Audi rnse) doesn't support Bluetooth streaming.
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I really doubt this will work for your nexus 5, but a search on ebay found this to be the closest to what your asking for:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-B-USB...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item5d40faf05b
If your car at least has aux output, then you can either use a usb car charger as well. plug the audio into the aux port, the usb into charging port, and then the micro usb into your phone. The ebay listing states specifically for certain phone models, nothing even close to a nexus though. But for under $10, its worth a shot.
I have a USB charger and aux port but means two wires annoyingly. Does nexus 5 support audio out via USB?
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why not use a bluetooth audio adapter which connects to the AUX port if you have one, i have no wires anymore to my phone , i use the OWL Carpad Qi charger (i have some issues right now but seems like hardware issue) and i use a Belkin AirCast Car Audio Wireless Bluetooth AUX Music HandsFree Kit, i normally wanted to go with the Kinivo BTC450 Bluetooth Hands-Free Car Kit but thats no available in my country .
So i go into my car just mount the phone in the car pad were i also use a nfc tag to enable bluetooth and turn off other stuff, and start the engine, now my phone gets charged then I press the belkin and i am connected and music is playing , i also use it now as my handsfree because i am absolutely fine with the quality.
For USB audio you will need a car stereo that supports audio over USB. I suggest looking into Bluetooth. That's how I do it and I love it.
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Does anyone know if one exists? I would love to have a single cable in my phone to charge and for audio. Unfortunately my car stereo (Audi rnse) doesn't support Bluetooth streaming.
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Here ya go: http://www.amazon.com/iBOLT-xProDoc...=UTF8&qid=1384870435&sr=8-1&keywords=xprodock
Question is though....does the Nexus 5 support audio through USB????
No one? Does slim port or whatever the standard in nexus has, not support audio USB output?
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No one? Does slim port or whatever the standard in nexus has, not support audio USB output?
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http://www.gromaudio.com/
Try them out, that is what I use and I simply plug the usb cable into the GROM Audio box, then into my phone, and enjoy music from my phone and charging as well.
For the dock, I just use the InfiniApps Slyde Magnetic CD Slot Mount($25 on Amazon)
I tried with my old GSII car dock and it's not working.
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http://www.gromaudio.com/
Try them out, that is what I use and I simply plug the usb cable into the GROM Audio box, then into my phone, and enjoy music from my phone and charging as well.
For the dock, I just use the InfiniApps Slyde Magnetic CD Slot Mount($25 on Amazon)
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Does the Grom Audio box USB cable audio streaming works with the Nexus 5? I'm considering buying it but searching around I'm not sure it works with the Nexus 5.
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Does the Grom Audio box USB cable audio streaming works with the Nexus 5? I'm considering buying it but searching around I'm not sure it works with the Nexus 5.
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I don't know, it worked fine with my co-worker's nexus 4
Hi, I've found that the headphone output of this phone, while good for some headphones, has too much noise for sensitive IEMs and not enough power for some less efficient headphones, so I'm looking into a portable DAC/Amp. I tried this one with a USB-C adapter:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FJSEAZ4
But it didn't work. I know the USB-C adapter works, as I've used it with a thumb drive, and I know the DAC works on other Android devices, but apparently compatibility isn't universal. So has anyone successfully tried a portable DAC with this phone?
My Fiio Q1 works fine with the phone.
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My Fiio Q1 works fine with the phone.
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Thanks, that's good to hear. I was considering one of Fiio's products
I tried this one: http://hifimediy.com/android-dac
Works very well together with an USB B to C converter that supports USB OTG and drove even my good old 600 Ohm AKG K 141 loud enough!
It has a Sabre DAC. Bought it out of concern that the sound of the phone might not be good enough. But it is - at least with low impedance headphones like my Ultimate Ears UE 10 TF I don't find a difference to the 180 $ sony walkman of my GF.
(Small remark: Used a Samsung USB B to C converter first. This one, while doing very well on the PC and with ADB and also with the charger did not work as OTG adaptor.)
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I tried this one: http://hifimediy.com/android-dac
Works very well together with an USB B to C converter that supports USB OTG and drove even my good old 600 Ohm AKG K 141 loud enough!
It has a Sabre DAC. Bought it out of concern that the sound of the phone might not be good enough. But it is - at least with low impedance headphones like my Ultimate Ears UE 10 TF I don't find a difference to the 180 $ sony walkman of my GF.
(Small remark: Used a Samsung USB B to C converter first. This one, while doing very well on the PC and with ADB and also with the charger did not work as OTG adaptor.)
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Weird, that's the exact one I tried that didn't work. Maybe I needed a different USB-C OTG adapter
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Weird, that's the exact one I tried that didn't work. Maybe I needed a different USB-C OTG adapter
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For sure. It works for me without problems - plug and play.
I use this adaptor: http://www.delock.com/produkte/G_65678/merkmale.html
Side note: While I could use the Samsung adaptor for charging (but not for OTG devices) this one works well for OTG - but not for charging.
Edit: The price for te DAC on the amazon side is way higher than if you buy directly from the Hifimediy website.
And you should also note, that this DAC while it's pretty good for higher impedance phones did not work well with my low (32 ohm) impedance IEM's. But for those I found no need to use the DAC.
I ended up with a Fiio E18, I like the fact that it has playback control, plus B&H has it on sale right now. It doesn't seem to work with Poweramp, but it works perfectly with USB Audio Player PRO.
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I ended up with a Fiio E18, I like the fact that it has playback control, plus B&H has it on sale right now. It doesn't seem to work with Poweramp, but it works perfectly with USB Audio Player PRO.
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Will USB Audio Player read OTG storage?
Most file explorers do not see mnt/media_rw/0EB0-0FF. Do any players?
Quick, and hopefully not too stupid, question, do I need to root the phone to get the DAC working with Google Play Music?
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Quick, and hopefully not too stupid, question, do I need to root the phone to get the DAC working with Google Play Music?
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Gpm will not pcm to a dac.
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