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I'm still new to smartphones/Androids...
After experimenting with the lastest update, it appears to me that turning on the hotspot option automatically turns off WiFi reception, and vice versa. If I'm wrong about that, please let me know.
Otherwise, I was a surprised and a little disappointed at that, since I can think of several instances in which it would be very useful to establish a wireless connection to the G2, and then re-serve that out as a hotspot.
I'm wondering if it's a hardware, legal, software, or simple greed reason that prevented TMO from making that option available?
Yes the hotspot feature doesnt serve as a repeater of sorts for wifi, it simply turns your 3G 4G signal to wifi. Imagine if you could do that though. You could share your wifi to yourself and somebody on another device could make a wifi call through your wifi, being repeated through your router. Clearly this would cause a glitch in the time/space continuum.
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KeithAdv said:
I'm still new to smartphones/Androids...
After experimenting with the lastest update, it appears to me that turning on the hotspot option automatically turns off WiFi reception, and vice versa. If I'm wrong about that, please let me know.
Otherwise, I was a surprised and a little disappointed at that, since I can think of several instances in which it would be very useful to establish a wireless connection to the G2, and then re-serve that out as a hotspot.
I'm wondering if it's a hardware, legal, software, or simple greed reason that prevented TMO from making that option available?
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Are you for real? To create the hotspot you're using your wireless card, the same one you'd normally be using to connect to wifi. Greed has little to do with this short of the phone only having a single wireless card. But no worries, laptops can't do this, either, unless they have a second wireless card.
It's a hardware limitation. The wifi chip can only do one thing at a time: either connect to an existing wireless network as a client, or serve it's own internet. Not both.
Got it. Thank you!
first id like to say lol to the time space joke
next... why on earth would u even want to get a wifi signal from ur g2... and then broadcast the signal you get from the wifi? why not just connect whatever your gonna connect to the g2 straight to the source..?
If you are on an airplane using Wifi (which is paid, and usually cheaper from a phone than from a laptop), and someone you want to broadcast that Wifi signal to your laptop and a partner's laptop --- thus not paying twice. It could be useful then.
You can do one laptop with wired tether, but not two or more.
cparekh said:
You can do one laptop with wired tether, but not two or more.
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Yeah, you can. Share the wifi through the laptop.
kidd657 said:
first id like to say lol to the time space joke
next... why on earth would u even want to get a wifi signal from ur g2... and then broadcast the signal you get from the wifi? why not just connect whatever your gonna connect to the g2 straight to the source..?
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Well, I know now that re-serving/repeating a wifi signal is a physical impossibility with the G2; however, to answer your question, there are several instances where such a capability would be useful:
1. Our company's wireless network is pretty secure. We do also have a server for guest access but the password changes daily. So, if a vendor or other person drops by and wants to show me a demo or catalog that's on-line, I have to hunt down a tech guy who knows today's password. That's been a bit of a time-waste to me in the past.
2. I'm on the road with a few colleagues. I get my hotel room's wireless access set up but I sometimes have to fiddle with my other various wireless devices to get them to work and a colleague might bring a laptop over to my room if we want to work on something. It's not unusual these days for road warriors to take a wireless router with them just for these circumstances.
3. I'm at the airport with a couple colleagues and we're all working. If we all need to get on-line, we each have to buy an hour's access (which never, ever gets fully used) at $10 a pop.
4. I'm at some research facility or client's and I manage to get the wireless key for their network. But, while I'm there, other colleagues drift in and out and it's always another mad dash for them to find the sacred piece of paper with the key.
Now, there are various ways to solve all of the above (and all of them are real-world experiences), but by in each case the easiest and most economical would be for me to re-serve a wireless signal and give my key to my vendors/associates, if the G2 actually had that capability. I know it doesn't and can't now.
Still love it, though.
There's nothing wrong that mobile hotspot and wifi can't co-exist (one is server and another is client).
Same thing happens on my nexus one.
dude seriously
KeithAdv said:
Well, I know now that re-serving/repeating a wifi signal is a physical impossibility with the G2; however, to answer your question, there are several instances where such a capability would be useful:
1. Our company's wireless network is pretty secure. We do also have a server for guest access but the password changes daily. So, if a vendor or other person drops by and wants to show me a demo or catalog that's on-line, I have to hunt down a tech guy who knows today's password. That's been a bit of a time-waste to me in the past.
2. I'm on the road with a few colleagues. I get my hotel room's wireless access set up but I sometimes have to fiddle with my other various wireless devices to get them to work and a colleague might bring a laptop over to my room if we want to work on something. It's not unusual these days for road warriors to take a wireless router with them just for these circumstances.
3. I'm at the airport with a couple colleagues and we're all working. If we all need to get on-line, we each have to buy an hour's access (which never, ever gets fully used) at $10 a pop.
4. I'm at some research facility or client's and I manage to get the wireless key for their network. But, while I'm there, other colleagues drift in and out and it's always another mad dash for them to find the sacred piece of paper with the key.
Now, there are various ways to solve all of the above (and all of them are real-world experiences), but by in each case the easiest and most economical would be for me to re-serve a wireless signal and give my key to my vendors/associates, if the G2 actually had that capability. I know it doesn't and can't now.
Still love it, though.
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Dude seriously... its called an ad-hoc network... you tether your phone to your computer and then broadcast an ad-hoc network from your computer and there you go... I've used this for counter-strike lan games with 8 players before on the g1 and the moto cliq and my g2... goggle how to set up ad-hoc
hi, i just want to know if is there any solution to use Tethering (on Froyo) like a wifi repeater? can i do it? thanks
SOrry for bad english
Folks....
I have read that Radio Shack has some WiMAX repeaters installed before the HTC EVO was rolled out. Anyone here know the make and model number of this repeater? Why is it that we can not buy WiMAX repeaters? You can buy repeaters for 3G. They are all over the place. Some in home units to units that have a big external antenna.
Where I live in Portland Oregon my WiMAX reception in my yard, outside is "fair". If I walk about a block, it quickly turns to good, then excellent. However when I am inside, my WiMAX reception is "poor". I would think by now smart phone WiMAX repeaters would be off the shelf. Is this a legal issue, or has no one developed a repeater for home/business owners?
htc evo owner.
Thanks
jack
+1 on this. But I think they were micro cells and not repeaters.
EVO Sent
The only way this would be necessary is if you think your home network would be to "slow" and you had to use Wimax as the speedier alternative...
as soon as I walk into my house I connect to wifi and have great speeds and save tons of battery life by having a strong consistent signal.
Tuffgong4 said:
The only way this would be necessary is if you think your home network would be to "slow" and you had to use Wimax as the speedier alternative...
as soon as I walk into my house I connect to wifi and have great speeds and save tons of battery life by having a strong consistent signal.
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I believe he meant to use his wimax connection for tethering and the like. If you dont have a home connection, thats why you need a repeater.
It doesnt make sense to use a microcell (i.e. your home internet) to generate a wimax signal (wimax uses so much more battery that its crazy) instead of just hooking up to wifi to begin with.
i'd LOVE to stick a wimax repeater in my car... then all that's left is VPN to my home network and cifs mount my music & video library so apps can natively access them... say hello to my new flawless 2TB-music-and-video-filled Evo machine
might as well mount a small tablet-size lcd in the dashboard and play movies through the HDMI and wiring audio to in-car sound
WiMax repeater?
gtkansan said:
I believe he meant to use his wimax connection for tethering and the like. If you dont have a home connection, thats why you need a repeater.
It doesn't make sense to use a microcell (i.e. your home internet) to generate a wimax signal (wimax uses so much more battery that its crazy) instead of just hooking up to wifi to begin with.
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No Wifi where I am. It is just the htc evo and a laptop. The sprint map says I am in the best area I can be in. But my phone calls it "fair" outside and "poor" inside.
I called it a repeater, but you can use words like booster, microcell, amplifer, etc.
What I am looking for is something that is common and off the shelf in the 3G world. Some of the 3G repeaters (use you own word here) are small self contained units with a built in antenna. And some can take a external antenna mounted on the roof and RG6 running to the repeater. They come in all sizes and ranges and cost.
I can find correct antennas for 802.16e (2100 -2700Mhz - same as 2.5 -2.7Ghz), but I can not find any WiMax repeaters/amps/boosters, etc. Is it a legal thing? I would think that this stuff would be available.
Anyway, if any one can point me to a unit I would appreciate it. If you know why none seem to being available, maybe you can fill me in.
Thanks everyone for the good info and feedback.
jack
http://www.now-tel.com/eng/product/sub_01.asp
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/wimax-repeater.html
I go into work on Friday and will take a picture of our WiMAX repeater. They aren't really designed for residential use.
repeater
aimbdd said:
http://www.now-tel.com/eng/product/sub_01.asp
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/wimax-repeater.html
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What a huge list. All in China or Korea. I have shot off some emails. I'll report back what I find. I hope they do not make me buy 20 of them. I only need one.
jack
mraroid said:
What a huge list. All in China or Korea. I have shot off some emails. I'll report back what I find. I hope they do not make me buy 20 of them. I only need one.
jack
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Hopefully they can help out.
Would it new possible to give a regular router sprints wimax credentials and connect to it
? Since they both operate in the same frequency range for the most part out seems possible right?
"why not just connect to wifi you retard?"
Because you can't use wifi for voice unless you use some stupid voip/sip program. Screw that
"why not just buy an airave you cheap ass?"
Because why spend the money on something you could possibly do for a free? That's like paying a hooker when you could just crash a party or hit the club? (not counting cover and pumping drinks in the girl but that's still probably cheaper and less likely to be a cop lol)
No, WiFi and WiMax are different protocols. And even if it were technically possible, Sprint uses encrypted keys to ensure only their devices can connect.
damn
oh well
Because you can't use wifi for voice unless you use some stupid voip/sip program. Screw that
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And you can't use wimax for voice either.
I do wonder if this would be possible using a clear wimax router/modem.
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y is every1 on wifi everytime i see screen shots ppl have there phones on wifi...u have 4g! my 4g tends to be faster then wifi lol ...do ppl use it just to conserve battery or is there another reason behind it that i dont no about
mightymike889 said:
y is every1 on wifi everytime i see screen shots ppl have there phones on wifi...u have 4g! my 4g tends to be faster then wifi lol ...do ppl use it just to conserve battery or is there another reason behind it that i dont no about
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I use wifi on my laptop... because its connected to my phone... via wifi hotspot
But yeah, I never turn on wifi and I have 0 use for wifi calling.
I don't know about you, but my Wifi at home is on a 110mbit cable modem. Beat that with your "4G" HSPA+
Wifi also uses less battery, and anything you do on wifi doesn't chew up your monthly Gigabyte allowance.
raduque said:
I don't know about you, but my Wifi at home is on a 110mbit cable modem. Beat that with your "4G" HSPA+
Wifi also uses less battery, and anything you do on wifi doesn't chew up your monthly Gigabyte allowance.
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i dont have a monthly gig i have unlm. so im good money...idk my wifi is mad slow but even so...im not home all that much ...idk i guess its a personal preff
mightymike889 said:
i dont have a monthly gig i have unlm. so im good money...idk my wifi is mad slow but even so...im not home all that much ...idk i guess its a personal preff
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hahaha! you really think your unlimited. your probably capped a 5 gb once you go over its throttle time
raduque said:
I don't know about you, but my Wifi at home is on a 110mbit cable modem. Beat that with your "4G" HSPA+
Wifi also uses less battery, and anything you do on wifi doesn't chew up your monthly Gigabyte allowance.
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That is true, i use it like that but if im on the bed or something at home. So i dont use up my 5gb, i use it real quick. Plus if people are at home why not use a laptop
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wifi is free
mightymike889 said:
y is every1 on wifi everytime i see screen shots ppl have there phones on wifi...u have 4g! my 4g tends to be faster then wifi lol ...do ppl use it just to conserve battery or is there another reason behind it that i dont no about
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your wifi is slow not because of the fact that youre on wifi, but because your own ISP's provisioned line is slow - thus, you have a slow internet package with your provider, either that or your having intermitten speed issues with the line. and there is no "100%" unlimited data on 4g/hspa+, max is 5gbs then youre throttled to be on edge. but really, i have the 2gb on 4G package and i can barely use a gig on a monthly basis from usual web browsing. i guess i shall start streaming some movies on the phone..
mightymike889 said:
y is every1 on wifi everytime i see screen shots ppl have there phones on wifi...u have 4g! my 4g tends to be faster then wifi lol ...do ppl use it just to conserve battery or is there another reason behind it that i dont no about
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Most of the time I'm at college and wifi is free so why not use it? Besides here the max down is 3mbs and wifi is 10. At home we don't have a dedicated internet connection so I tether to all my devices there.
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My Wifi is faster than my data.
Wifi is faster than my data. I dont want to get throttled because of how much data i use. Data uses more vattery because its onstantly searching and switching from hspa+, gms ,etc.
Message relayed from the dark side.
My wifi is faster than 4g. Also, my block has terrible service (previously had Verizon, it was horrible, my neighbors have sprint, it sucks too), so I use wifi calling because my wifi signal strength acts as my signal, so I get all calls, texts & don't drop calls.
the white unicorn.
It's typically better to use WiFi whenever it's available at your leisure.
Because when i play modern combat 3 online it requires wifi
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- wifi uses less battery
- its free.. doesnt use up my monthly 5gb so i dont get throttled
- ground level apartment doesnt get good service ..sometimes no service.. so wifi + wifi calling is almost necessary
- wifi is faster than 4g (unless you have crappy internet like OP must have)
- Having my phone on the same wifi network as my Samsung TV ( with built in wireless ) allows me to use my phone as a remote control for the TV and also i can send pictures , music, videos , whatever from my phone wirelessly to my tv
When did wifi become free? Am I missing something here? If your at home and your using a wireless router to use the wifi off, then is it really free. I can understand being out and using it but at home your paying your ISP and tmobile. I agree data speeds at home are usually faster but I get 12 and sometimes 16mb at home on tmobile. Currently tethering on my plan and it beat my ESP in downloads. Keep in mind my old plan with Comcast was 12mb and my most recent was only 1-1.5mb.
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elitox87 said:
your wifi is slow not because of the fact that youre on wifi, but because your own ISP's provisioned line is slow - thus, you have a slow internet package with your provider, either that or your having intermitten speed issues with the line. and there is no "100%" unlimited data on 4g/hspa+, max is 5gbs then youre throttled to be on edge. but really, i have the 2gb on 4G package and i can barely use a gig on a monthly basis from usual web browsing. i guess i shall start streaming some movies on the phone..
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actually Tmobile has a10gb package for the extreme users..at the end of my Billing cycle Im usually at 4.5GB of use so I downgraded from the 10 GB package. I have average download speeds of 13mb and 4mb up with this phone way better then the 3 down and.50 up my sensation got in the same place.
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I use wifi when available. Doesn't count against my data plan and my home internet is much faster then my home 4g data connection.
Why would anyone use 4g when wifi and a fast internet connection is available?
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Jjday7 said:
When did wifi become free? Am I missing something here? If your at home and your using a wireless router to use the wifi off, then is it really free. I can understand being out and using it but at home your paying your ISP and tmobile. I agree data speeds at home are usually faster but I get 12 and sometimes 16mb at home on tmobile. Currently tethering on my plan and it beat my ESP in downloads. Keep in mind my old plan with Comcast was 12mb and my most recent was only 1-1.5mb.
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Yes , it's free. I have a fast internet connection for my home network and it doesn't cost me any more to use wifi for my phone and tablet. I'm paying for the internet connection any way so why not take advantage?
i use wifi every chance i get! more stable and saves more energy.
Really OP? I get 20mb down at home and 15+ when at bdubs or starbucks or any similar place. It's 2012 man, who doesn't love free interwebs without eating at our data plans?
I'm going for an answer of no but thought it's worth asking.
Is there any way to broadcast the 3g/4g reception of my note 2 when wifi tethering to my tablet? I can't find any obvious apps so it's not looking likely.
It would be great to leave my phone in my pocket on the train and know when it's reception is getting low and going to loose internet that's being tethered to my tablet.