I'm still new to smartphones/Androids...
After experimenting with the lastest update, it appears to me that turning on the hotspot option automatically turns off WiFi reception, and vice versa. If I'm wrong about that, please let me know.
Otherwise, I was a surprised and a little disappointed at that, since I can think of several instances in which it would be very useful to establish a wireless connection to the G2, and then re-serve that out as a hotspot.
I'm wondering if it's a hardware, legal, software, or simple greed reason that prevented TMO from making that option available?
Yes the hotspot feature doesnt serve as a repeater of sorts for wifi, it simply turns your 3G 4G signal to wifi. Imagine if you could do that though. You could share your wifi to yourself and somebody on another device could make a wifi call through your wifi, being repeated through your router. Clearly this would cause a glitch in the time/space continuum.
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KeithAdv said:
I'm still new to smartphones/Androids...
After experimenting with the lastest update, it appears to me that turning on the hotspot option automatically turns off WiFi reception, and vice versa. If I'm wrong about that, please let me know.
Otherwise, I was a surprised and a little disappointed at that, since I can think of several instances in which it would be very useful to establish a wireless connection to the G2, and then re-serve that out as a hotspot.
I'm wondering if it's a hardware, legal, software, or simple greed reason that prevented TMO from making that option available?
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Are you for real? To create the hotspot you're using your wireless card, the same one you'd normally be using to connect to wifi. Greed has little to do with this short of the phone only having a single wireless card. But no worries, laptops can't do this, either, unless they have a second wireless card.
It's a hardware limitation. The wifi chip can only do one thing at a time: either connect to an existing wireless network as a client, or serve it's own internet. Not both.
Got it. Thank you!
first id like to say lol to the time space joke
next... why on earth would u even want to get a wifi signal from ur g2... and then broadcast the signal you get from the wifi? why not just connect whatever your gonna connect to the g2 straight to the source..?
If you are on an airplane using Wifi (which is paid, and usually cheaper from a phone than from a laptop), and someone you want to broadcast that Wifi signal to your laptop and a partner's laptop --- thus not paying twice. It could be useful then.
You can do one laptop with wired tether, but not two or more.
cparekh said:
You can do one laptop with wired tether, but not two or more.
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Yeah, you can. Share the wifi through the laptop.
kidd657 said:
first id like to say lol to the time space joke
next... why on earth would u even want to get a wifi signal from ur g2... and then broadcast the signal you get from the wifi? why not just connect whatever your gonna connect to the g2 straight to the source..?
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Well, I know now that re-serving/repeating a wifi signal is a physical impossibility with the G2; however, to answer your question, there are several instances where such a capability would be useful:
1. Our company's wireless network is pretty secure. We do also have a server for guest access but the password changes daily. So, if a vendor or other person drops by and wants to show me a demo or catalog that's on-line, I have to hunt down a tech guy who knows today's password. That's been a bit of a time-waste to me in the past.
2. I'm on the road with a few colleagues. I get my hotel room's wireless access set up but I sometimes have to fiddle with my other various wireless devices to get them to work and a colleague might bring a laptop over to my room if we want to work on something. It's not unusual these days for road warriors to take a wireless router with them just for these circumstances.
3. I'm at the airport with a couple colleagues and we're all working. If we all need to get on-line, we each have to buy an hour's access (which never, ever gets fully used) at $10 a pop.
4. I'm at some research facility or client's and I manage to get the wireless key for their network. But, while I'm there, other colleagues drift in and out and it's always another mad dash for them to find the sacred piece of paper with the key.
Now, there are various ways to solve all of the above (and all of them are real-world experiences), but by in each case the easiest and most economical would be for me to re-serve a wireless signal and give my key to my vendors/associates, if the G2 actually had that capability. I know it doesn't and can't now.
Still love it, though.
There's nothing wrong that mobile hotspot and wifi can't co-exist (one is server and another is client).
Same thing happens on my nexus one.
dude seriously
KeithAdv said:
Well, I know now that re-serving/repeating a wifi signal is a physical impossibility with the G2; however, to answer your question, there are several instances where such a capability would be useful:
1. Our company's wireless network is pretty secure. We do also have a server for guest access but the password changes daily. So, if a vendor or other person drops by and wants to show me a demo or catalog that's on-line, I have to hunt down a tech guy who knows today's password. That's been a bit of a time-waste to me in the past.
2. I'm on the road with a few colleagues. I get my hotel room's wireless access set up but I sometimes have to fiddle with my other various wireless devices to get them to work and a colleague might bring a laptop over to my room if we want to work on something. It's not unusual these days for road warriors to take a wireless router with them just for these circumstances.
3. I'm at the airport with a couple colleagues and we're all working. If we all need to get on-line, we each have to buy an hour's access (which never, ever gets fully used) at $10 a pop.
4. I'm at some research facility or client's and I manage to get the wireless key for their network. But, while I'm there, other colleagues drift in and out and it's always another mad dash for them to find the sacred piece of paper with the key.
Now, there are various ways to solve all of the above (and all of them are real-world experiences), but by in each case the easiest and most economical would be for me to re-serve a wireless signal and give my key to my vendors/associates, if the G2 actually had that capability. I know it doesn't and can't now.
Still love it, though.
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Dude seriously... its called an ad-hoc network... you tether your phone to your computer and then broadcast an ad-hoc network from your computer and there you go... I've used this for counter-strike lan games with 8 players before on the g1 and the moto cliq and my g2... goggle how to set up ad-hoc
hi, i just want to know if is there any solution to use Tethering (on Froyo) like a wifi repeater? can i do it? thanks
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Would it new possible to give a regular router sprints wimax credentials and connect to it
? Since they both operate in the same frequency range for the most part out seems possible right?
"why not just connect to wifi you retard?"
Because you can't use wifi for voice unless you use some stupid voip/sip program. Screw that
"why not just buy an airave you cheap ass?"
Because why spend the money on something you could possibly do for a free? That's like paying a hooker when you could just crash a party or hit the club? (not counting cover and pumping drinks in the girl but that's still probably cheaper and less likely to be a cop lol)
No, WiFi and WiMax are different protocols. And even if it were technically possible, Sprint uses encrypted keys to ensure only their devices can connect.
damn
oh well
Because you can't use wifi for voice unless you use some stupid voip/sip program. Screw that
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And you can't use wimax for voice either.
I do wonder if this would be possible using a clear wimax router/modem.
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Hi!
I don't know if this is an actual "issue" I'm having with my phone but when I am about 15 feet away from my router and in my living room trying to make a wifi call, I am unable to do so. If I am within a few feet of my router, I am able to make wifi calls. I would like to add that when I am in my living room, I can use wifi to go on the internet and it works perfectly.
I called up T-Mobile and spoke to their technical support department and was told if you are more than 15 feet away from your router and/or there is a wall that is separating you from the router, you will not be able to get wifi calling. Is this information correct? Thanks!
lostincyberspace said:
Hi!
I don't know if this is an actual "issue" I'm having with my phone but when I am about 15 feet away from my router and in my living room trying to make a wifi call, I am unable to do so. If I am within a few feet of my router, I am able to make wifi calls. I would like to add that when I am in my living room, I can use wifi to go on the internet and it works perfectly.
I called up T-Mobile and spoke to their technical support department and was told if you are more than 15 feet away from your router and/or there is a wall that is separating you from the router, you will not be able to get wifi calling. Is this information correct? Thanks!
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its hard to explain but..uh...
my old phone I could be outside..in my detached garage (and wifi router is below ground in basement) and get wifi calling on my old phone.
on this phone...if i walk to the other end of the house or upstairs its pretty much game over.
Wifi on this phone just isn't so hot, range is probably only 1/2 - 2/3 of what I've seen on my old phones, not much we can do about it, to my knowledge unless some kind of software tweak can help but I haven't seen it yet.
Since I'm pretty sure others here have used their ZLs for tethering via portable hotspot (I hope), has anyone had Internet speed issues when using the phone as a portable hotspot (from the perspective of the tethered device)?
Here's the whole story -- both myself and my husband have the ZL (6506). He has a tethering-permitted data plan with AT&T, and he uses the portable hotspot feature to tether to his Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet. He previously used the same functionality on the Galaxy S3 without issue, however since switching to the ZL, he's had serious lag in the Internet connectivity on the tablet. It seems to be a function of power saving features, because when the phone is plugged in and charging, the speeds are decent, but when the phone isn't plugged in, they begin to degrade. They get worse when the screen shuts off, too. We've checked everything related to sleep settings, Wi-Fi, etc -- everything to keep it all "awake" while using the hotspot to no avail. The data speeds become worse than dial-up and connectivity is very choppy. Stamina mode is disabled, as is low battery mode.
So, I'd like to know if anyone else has seen this on the ZL? I'd test it on my own phone, but I am not on a data plan that allows tethering.
I'm asking because we also suspect that this phone may have some bad hardware or a firmware issue (related to 2 now-dead microSD cards within the span of 1 week, but that's another story) -- if he is alone in this problem, then perhaps it's just a bad unit overall & it should be replaced or repaired. He's going to try repairing the firmware via PC Companion later today.
Thanks in advance!
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Since I'm pretty sure others here have used their ZLs for tethering via portable hotspot (I hope), has anyone had Internet speed issues when using the phone as a portable hotspot (from the perspective of the tethered device)?
Here's the whole story -- both myself and my husband have the ZL (6506). He has a tethering-permitted data plan with AT&T, and he uses the portable hotspot feature to tether to his Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet. He previously used the same functionality on the Galaxy S3 without issue, however since switching to the ZL, he's had serious lag in the Internet connectivity on the tablet. It seems to be a function of power saving features, because when the phone is plugged in and charging, the speeds are decent, but when the phone isn't plugged in, they begin to degrade. They get worse when the screen shuts off, too. We've checked everything related to sleep settings, Wi-Fi, etc -- everything to keep it all "awake" while using the hotspot to no avail. The data speeds become worse than dial-up and connectivity is very choppy. Stamina mode is disabled, as is low battery mode.
So, I'd like to know if anyone else has seen this on the ZL? I'd test it on my own phone, but I am not on a data plan that allows tethering.
I'm asking because we also suspect that this phone may have some bad hardware or a firmware issue (related to 2 now-dead microSD cards within the span of 1 week, but that's another story) -- if he is alone in this problem, then perhaps it's just a bad unit overall & it should be replaced or repaired. He's going to try repairing the firmware via PC Companion later today.
Thanks in advance!
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I haven't tested this for you but as far as I know, your factory unlocked phone can use this function without any tethering data plan because your phone is not restricted from tethering comparing to locked phones.
So the fastest way is to test it yourself.
I'm gonna my hands on C6506 in couple days
lonelyguy4ever said:
I haven't tested this for you but as far as I know, your factory unlocked phone can use this function without any tethering data plan because your phone is not restricted from tethering comparing to locked phones.
So the fastest way is to test it yourself.
I'm gonna my hands on C6506 in couple days
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True, sort of. As I understand it, AT&T is still capable of blocking tethering with unlocked phones -- not on the phone itself via a tethering manager, as they do on AT&T locked phones, but certainly the network traffic, if it isn't masked, can be blocked. I suppose I could try FoxFi to mask the traffic, but that's a whole lot of hassle and risk (I'd rather not have my contract canceled, thanks) for very little reward.
I'm mostly wondering if anyone else has noticed an internet speed issue when using the portable hotspot on the ZL (even on any of the other models, not necessarily the 6506), especially when the phone goes to sleep. If you don't have a ZL in your hands yet, then you can't really help me .
I used stock tethering apps on unlocked and att phones. I have the unlimited 30 dollar plan that does not allow tethering
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Last time when I use stock Portable hotspot
Without any problem but I am only test like half hour
And I am tmobile user and having c6506 too
Did either of you notice anything with upload speeds (especially if you run speedtest)? What we're seeing seems to be intermittently poor or nonexistent upload speeds when tethering a tablet to the ZL via Wi-Fi portable hotspot.
Bluetooth / WiFi Tether
Interesting post...
I usually tether over bluetooth, and while I'm pretty new to this device I know that I have had trouble trying to tether with various devices over AT&T before. I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, and rarely tether, but once (~ a year ago) I received messages stating that if I attempt to tether again than my data plan would be changed to a tethering plan (limited data & much more expensive).
On my previous phone (HTC One X+, stolen) - i had to change a line in the telephony.db from 'broadband' to 'pta' in order to avoid this. ( I think the argument was that 'broadband' notified AT&T that the device was being used as a hotspot and 'pta' acted like it was a cell phone accessing the data..
I am currently using the PAC (Paranoid/AKOP/CyanogenMod rom) at the moment, and it will allow me to tether, but is there something I can change so that AT&T won't be (so readily) alerted about it?
Is it possible to use Verizon aircard to get wifi on the Nexus 7? I looked around and it seems like you need to buy a travel router. Now, have anyone here actually used a travel router? My main question is can it be used to give the tablet wifi while outside, for example, like driving?
If it can, can anyone point me to one that would do exactly that. The routers that I saw needs some sort of power source (wall adapter or usb, but N7 doesn't have usb port to supply the power). Any way to make it work?
Thanks
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Is it possible to use Verizon aircard to get wifi on the Nexus 7? I looked around and it seems like you need to buy a travel router. Now, have anyone here actually used a travel router? My main question is can it be used to give the tablet wifi while outside, for example, like driving?
If it can, can anyone point me to one that would do exactly that. The routers that I saw needs some sort of power source (wall adapter or usb, but N7 doesn't have usb port to supply the power). Any way to make it work?
Thanks
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If you have a 4G aircard, the easiest way to get it to work would be to pick up a hotspot from ebay or just buy it from Verizon depending on what you want to spend. It will have its own battery and connect via wifi. You may want to search the net to see if someone has been able to get your model aircard to work with a N7 but it probably needs power from the USB port and I don't think the N7 supplies very much.
I use my phone as a hotspot with Verizon frequently. No issues but Verizon's service is really suffering in NYC lately. Also try FreedomPop (depending on where you live you can get free 500mB) its the lowest cost data I've seen.
Hello everyone,
I wonder if anyone has experienced the following problems and if they have resolved them. My Lg G4 is having some serious problems with my 5ghz WiFi network at home. The 2.5 ghz works reasonably well but the speed of my 5 Ghz is more than twice the 2.5. So here is what happens, I am in the room of the router, excellent connection and all of a sudden during browsing facebook/random internet search about c++ programming/linux command the the internet cuts out. There is no internet on my phone what so ever, going to any page yields the same result. I pulled out my laptop and tested the connection on the 5 ghz and 90 megs per second.
If I turn the wifi off and turn it back on the phone reconnects and regains internetability (or the traffic starts going again).
I have tried resetting my phone, getting a replacement, changing router settings - I did everything from removing the key, leaving it unprotected to changing channels to doing firmware updates to no avail.
Has anyone had this issue and solved it?
Wireless on this device is seriously broken in every aspect. I've been battling the 5ghz issue for months now. They (VZW) know its an issue, LG knows it an issue. They credited me for two months but now say they wont do any more and I have to buy a new device out of my pocket. Even went as far as to tell me the G4 doesn't support 5ghz band and that they were sorry that I don't understand how WiFi works. They also refuse to warranty because its a software bug and any additional G4's will have the same issue. So its an issue, but its not an issue...according to them....Totally over it, and their lack of support.
Sorry, I don't have a solution for you, but I can confirm the G4 has 5ghz issues. The LG G2 also does, but much worse.
I have my G4 connected to 5ghz only (802.11ac) at home, and I experience this issue about once a week. (I'm sure it would be more if I used my phone at home more). The traffic all of the sudden just stops. Toggling wifi on/off or just waiting a long time solves it. My two other devices on 5ghz have zero issues. I can live with it because, so far, it has never interrupted important stuff like wifi calls.
Same result here on the 9th device stupid VZW has sent me and the 5ghz still dont work. I still cannot understand how it is that these people sell a broken device and can get away from the lemon laws. It is like a bank all we do is we take in the money and the broken product we sold to you is something you have to deal with.