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I'm still new to smartphones/Androids...
After experimenting with the lastest update, it appears to me that turning on the hotspot option automatically turns off WiFi reception, and vice versa. If I'm wrong about that, please let me know.
Otherwise, I was a surprised and a little disappointed at that, since I can think of several instances in which it would be very useful to establish a wireless connection to the G2, and then re-serve that out as a hotspot.
I'm wondering if it's a hardware, legal, software, or simple greed reason that prevented TMO from making that option available?
Yes the hotspot feature doesnt serve as a repeater of sorts for wifi, it simply turns your 3G 4G signal to wifi. Imagine if you could do that though. You could share your wifi to yourself and somebody on another device could make a wifi call through your wifi, being repeated through your router. Clearly this would cause a glitch in the time/space continuum.
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KeithAdv said:
I'm still new to smartphones/Androids...
After experimenting with the lastest update, it appears to me that turning on the hotspot option automatically turns off WiFi reception, and vice versa. If I'm wrong about that, please let me know.
Otherwise, I was a surprised and a little disappointed at that, since I can think of several instances in which it would be very useful to establish a wireless connection to the G2, and then re-serve that out as a hotspot.
I'm wondering if it's a hardware, legal, software, or simple greed reason that prevented TMO from making that option available?
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Are you for real? To create the hotspot you're using your wireless card, the same one you'd normally be using to connect to wifi. Greed has little to do with this short of the phone only having a single wireless card. But no worries, laptops can't do this, either, unless they have a second wireless card.
It's a hardware limitation. The wifi chip can only do one thing at a time: either connect to an existing wireless network as a client, or serve it's own internet. Not both.
Got it. Thank you!
first id like to say lol to the time space joke
next... why on earth would u even want to get a wifi signal from ur g2... and then broadcast the signal you get from the wifi? why not just connect whatever your gonna connect to the g2 straight to the source..?
If you are on an airplane using Wifi (which is paid, and usually cheaper from a phone than from a laptop), and someone you want to broadcast that Wifi signal to your laptop and a partner's laptop --- thus not paying twice. It could be useful then.
You can do one laptop with wired tether, but not two or more.
cparekh said:
You can do one laptop with wired tether, but not two or more.
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Yeah, you can. Share the wifi through the laptop.
kidd657 said:
first id like to say lol to the time space joke
next... why on earth would u even want to get a wifi signal from ur g2... and then broadcast the signal you get from the wifi? why not just connect whatever your gonna connect to the g2 straight to the source..?
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Well, I know now that re-serving/repeating a wifi signal is a physical impossibility with the G2; however, to answer your question, there are several instances where such a capability would be useful:
1. Our company's wireless network is pretty secure. We do also have a server for guest access but the password changes daily. So, if a vendor or other person drops by and wants to show me a demo or catalog that's on-line, I have to hunt down a tech guy who knows today's password. That's been a bit of a time-waste to me in the past.
2. I'm on the road with a few colleagues. I get my hotel room's wireless access set up but I sometimes have to fiddle with my other various wireless devices to get them to work and a colleague might bring a laptop over to my room if we want to work on something. It's not unusual these days for road warriors to take a wireless router with them just for these circumstances.
3. I'm at the airport with a couple colleagues and we're all working. If we all need to get on-line, we each have to buy an hour's access (which never, ever gets fully used) at $10 a pop.
4. I'm at some research facility or client's and I manage to get the wireless key for their network. But, while I'm there, other colleagues drift in and out and it's always another mad dash for them to find the sacred piece of paper with the key.
Now, there are various ways to solve all of the above (and all of them are real-world experiences), but by in each case the easiest and most economical would be for me to re-serve a wireless signal and give my key to my vendors/associates, if the G2 actually had that capability. I know it doesn't and can't now.
Still love it, though.
There's nothing wrong that mobile hotspot and wifi can't co-exist (one is server and another is client).
Same thing happens on my nexus one.
dude seriously
KeithAdv said:
Well, I know now that re-serving/repeating a wifi signal is a physical impossibility with the G2; however, to answer your question, there are several instances where such a capability would be useful:
1. Our company's wireless network is pretty secure. We do also have a server for guest access but the password changes daily. So, if a vendor or other person drops by and wants to show me a demo or catalog that's on-line, I have to hunt down a tech guy who knows today's password. That's been a bit of a time-waste to me in the past.
2. I'm on the road with a few colleagues. I get my hotel room's wireless access set up but I sometimes have to fiddle with my other various wireless devices to get them to work and a colleague might bring a laptop over to my room if we want to work on something. It's not unusual these days for road warriors to take a wireless router with them just for these circumstances.
3. I'm at the airport with a couple colleagues and we're all working. If we all need to get on-line, we each have to buy an hour's access (which never, ever gets fully used) at $10 a pop.
4. I'm at some research facility or client's and I manage to get the wireless key for their network. But, while I'm there, other colleagues drift in and out and it's always another mad dash for them to find the sacred piece of paper with the key.
Now, there are various ways to solve all of the above (and all of them are real-world experiences), but by in each case the easiest and most economical would be for me to re-serve a wireless signal and give my key to my vendors/associates, if the G2 actually had that capability. I know it doesn't and can't now.
Still love it, though.
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Dude seriously... its called an ad-hoc network... you tether your phone to your computer and then broadcast an ad-hoc network from your computer and there you go... I've used this for counter-strike lan games with 8 players before on the g1 and the moto cliq and my g2... goggle how to set up ad-hoc
hi, i just want to know if is there any solution to use Tethering (on Froyo) like a wifi repeater? can i do it? thanks
SOrry for bad english
Folks....
I have read that Radio Shack has some WiMAX repeaters installed before the HTC EVO was rolled out. Anyone here know the make and model number of this repeater? Why is it that we can not buy WiMAX repeaters? You can buy repeaters for 3G. They are all over the place. Some in home units to units that have a big external antenna.
Where I live in Portland Oregon my WiMAX reception in my yard, outside is "fair". If I walk about a block, it quickly turns to good, then excellent. However when I am inside, my WiMAX reception is "poor". I would think by now smart phone WiMAX repeaters would be off the shelf. Is this a legal issue, or has no one developed a repeater for home/business owners?
htc evo owner.
Thanks
jack
+1 on this. But I think they were micro cells and not repeaters.
EVO Sent
The only way this would be necessary is if you think your home network would be to "slow" and you had to use Wimax as the speedier alternative...
as soon as I walk into my house I connect to wifi and have great speeds and save tons of battery life by having a strong consistent signal.
Tuffgong4 said:
The only way this would be necessary is if you think your home network would be to "slow" and you had to use Wimax as the speedier alternative...
as soon as I walk into my house I connect to wifi and have great speeds and save tons of battery life by having a strong consistent signal.
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I believe he meant to use his wimax connection for tethering and the like. If you dont have a home connection, thats why you need a repeater.
It doesnt make sense to use a microcell (i.e. your home internet) to generate a wimax signal (wimax uses so much more battery that its crazy) instead of just hooking up to wifi to begin with.
i'd LOVE to stick a wimax repeater in my car... then all that's left is VPN to my home network and cifs mount my music & video library so apps can natively access them... say hello to my new flawless 2TB-music-and-video-filled Evo machine
might as well mount a small tablet-size lcd in the dashboard and play movies through the HDMI and wiring audio to in-car sound
WiMax repeater?
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I believe he meant to use his wimax connection for tethering and the like. If you dont have a home connection, thats why you need a repeater.
It doesn't make sense to use a microcell (i.e. your home internet) to generate a wimax signal (wimax uses so much more battery that its crazy) instead of just hooking up to wifi to begin with.
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No Wifi where I am. It is just the htc evo and a laptop. The sprint map says I am in the best area I can be in. But my phone calls it "fair" outside and "poor" inside.
I called it a repeater, but you can use words like booster, microcell, amplifer, etc.
What I am looking for is something that is common and off the shelf in the 3G world. Some of the 3G repeaters (use you own word here) are small self contained units with a built in antenna. And some can take a external antenna mounted on the roof and RG6 running to the repeater. They come in all sizes and ranges and cost.
I can find correct antennas for 802.16e (2100 -2700Mhz - same as 2.5 -2.7Ghz), but I can not find any WiMax repeaters/amps/boosters, etc. Is it a legal thing? I would think that this stuff would be available.
Anyway, if any one can point me to a unit I would appreciate it. If you know why none seem to being available, maybe you can fill me in.
Thanks everyone for the good info and feedback.
jack
http://www.now-tel.com/eng/product/sub_01.asp
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/wimax-repeater.html
I go into work on Friday and will take a picture of our WiMAX repeater. They aren't really designed for residential use.
repeater
aimbdd said:
http://www.now-tel.com/eng/product/sub_01.asp
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/wimax-repeater.html
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What a huge list. All in China or Korea. I have shot off some emails. I'll report back what I find. I hope they do not make me buy 20 of them. I only need one.
jack
mraroid said:
What a huge list. All in China or Korea. I have shot off some emails. I'll report back what I find. I hope they do not make me buy 20 of them. I only need one.
jack
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Hopefully they can help out.
i really hope the title made since but if it didnt hear is what im wondering is possible to do in any way with any app. i know how to use my G2 as a wifi and usb hotspot via tmobiles blazing fast 2meg service here in louisiana but what i actually would like to be able to do is have my home charter internet from my wifi router to my G2 and from the G2 to my new desktop via usb cable (doesnt have wifi and im out of usb wifi adapters). So basically .....Netgear wifi router>HTC G2>Usb cable>Desktop. Is this even a remote possibilty or am i stuck using the 2meg (5gig limit) tmobile connection? thanks for any help that can be offered, veritasaequita
should probably just search/look/open your eyes:
Answered already just the other day: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260614
Or you could've just tried it for yourself
Not sure why you'd want to do this though. Just buy a $10 WiFi adapter on newegg etc. and it'll be at your house in 2 days.
also as an aside: that sucks your T-mo service is only pushing 2mbps. That's pretty slow compared to their usual HSPA+ numbers.
Has anyone used their VZN Gnex to tether to their laptop? I was just curious to how well it worked, if the phone got super hot, etc. Is it worth getting? Just explain your opinion on Gnex tethering if you will. Thanks
I should also add that I will be using the VZN mobile hotspot data package.
I have used my Gnex to tether my laptop and my friends laptops (Macs and PCs). The speed is okay. I did a speedtest.net run on it and it was around 10mbps, about the speed of any average, home wifi connection (4g). It drains the battery fairly quickly in my opinion, so only if I am without Wifi and I need to use the computer that absolutely required data connection (that my phone couldn't do), I would use it in that situation. Otherwise I would just always use wifi if I needed to use my computer. There is no problems with it though. The phone doesn't get hot, slow or buggy.I would say if you're in areas where you'd like to use your computer, but don't have wifi regularly, then get it. If not, just carry your phone around with you and use that, it's a mini laptop!
Well, getting back into school and my job requiring me to travel a lot, I planned on doing most of my classes online. Everywhere we go, i have great signal and hopefully this will be my solution to getting my coursework done before I get home. Thanks.
While not the CDMA version, I have used my GN for this and it worked flawlessly with my Wi-Fi-only tablet.
I appreciate the input so far. Anyone that reads this, I ask to write your opinion and experience using your GNex has a mobile hot spot. Preferably the CDMA version. Thanks again.
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I've used my VZW nexus to tether (using Android Wifi Tether app) occasionally, mostly using 3G, and it works like a charm.
I use it almost daily with no issues. Speeds rival what I get on the handset, but I'm also running a custom ROM and not paying to use Verizon's Hotspot Service.
I use roughly 10 gigs a month, half of it is via tether. I don't have issues with heat. I will say that if you're using WiFi Tether on LTE and having a phone conversation on a BT headset, the charger can't keep up with power consumption. Small price to pay for awesomeness.
Thanks for the input so much guys! So far nothing negative. I'll definitely have to put this to use then!
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So, not having run a speedtest on my laptop in a while, I actually thought my roommate was lying to me when he said we should be getting faster internet. Apparently he's not. Question being, with the speeds people are pulling on LTE, why can't I pull the same speeds from my wifi on my laptop as my GN2? My laptop is getting 50mbps down, while my Note tops out around 25mbps although yesterday I pulled a couple over 30mbps which has never happened before. Can anyone explain why I'm topping out like that when so much more is capable?
It can be a number of factors, buildings , wind , weather, static interference, anything could be a factor. It won't always be consistent.
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horr1blek1tten said:
It can be a number of factors, buildings , wind , weather, static interference, anything could be a factor. It won't always be consistent.
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Those factors have nothing to do with wifi or why my phone wont go over 25mbps when it can go way higher than that.
It could be the type of wifi antenna that we have on the phone. Max speed is achieved using MIMO streams which required multiple wifi antennas. I suspect that GN2 wifi have only one antenna, one stream up or down.
erm1001 said:
It could be the type of wifi antenna that we have on the phone. Max speed is achieved using MIMO streams which required multiple wifi antennas. I suspect that GN2 wifi have only one antenna, one stream up or down.
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Just seems odd that it maxes out at that speed on wifi yet with LTe its capable of double that. Does anyone else get more than 25mbps on their wifi?
Mobile app might not use as much data. Not as much time to optimize the connection and really fly.
The pc site may be allowed more bandwidth to get a speedy connection with.
My two cents.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
LTE and wifi are not using the same antenna. MINO is the basic for wifi (N) to achieve higher speed. If you go out and by wireless adaptor. Usually there 2 type of Wifi (N) offer 150N and 300N. The 150N has only one attenna, and the 300N usually has at least 2 or more.
So... still curious, what are others getting on their home wifi?
What is your link speed. My usually at home SD shows 39 or 52 mbit but I have seen 72 too. I dont have internet service fast enough to see if phone is the bottleneck.
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darekz said:
What is your link speed. My usually at home SD shows 39 or 52 mbit but I have seen 72 too. I dont have internet service fast enough to see if phone is the bottleneck.
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When I look at the network in the task manager on windows I believe its actually like 130? Im at work now, have to check when I get home? Is that the correct way to find out?
computer - 32
phone - 27
At home I have 40/20MB and on my phone I get 38/19 at work I have 100/100MB and on my phone I get 85/80MB.
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So my link speed right now is actually 144 mbps, though during busy times it might go down to 130. It definitely seems like we are supposed to have better internet because I remember a couple months ago it was only 72. Anyways, what exactly am I doing wrong? Shouldn't I be getting even better than 50mbps on my laptop, at least? Also, my router came from Comcast, do I need to upgrade it to get the full effect or are my laptop and phone somehow limited? At home I'm getting better than 50 on my laptop so shouldn't I be getting 35 or 40 then, no problem, on my Note? It would be aggravating if Comcast was charging me for faster internet but not telling me I needed a new modem to take advantage of it. Actually, more like stupid than aggravating.
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So my link speed right now is actually 144 mbps, though during busy times it might go down to 130. It definitely seems like we are supposed to have better internet because I remember a couple months ago it was only 72. Anyways, what exactly am I doing wrong? Shouldn't I be getting even better than 50mbps on my laptop, at least? Also, my router came from Comcast, do I need to upgrade it to get the full effect or are my laptop and phone somehow limited? At home I'm getting better than 50 on my laptop so shouldn't I be getting 35 or 40 then, no problem, on my Note? It would be aggravating if Comcast was charging me for faster internet but not telling me I needed a new modem to take advantage of it. Actually, more like stupid than aggravating.
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Yes you will always loose some throughput over wireless unless you have a beast of a router but plugged in with the hardwire should give you full speed. I would test by hard wiring to the router with your laptop and running a speed test then hard wire to the modem and do a speed test. If both router and modem are the same. Then its a wireless issue.
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gforceriders said:
Yes you will always loose some throughput over wireless unless you have a beast of a router but plugged in with the hardwire should give you full speed. I would test by hard wiring to the router with your laptop and running a speed test then hard wire to the modem and do a speed test. If both router and modem are the same. Then its a wireless issue.
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Well, I'm obviously not going to hardwire my laptop or Note. Would simply spending 50 bucks on a router from best buy, also avoiding a rental fee from comcast, improve my optimal speeds for my laptop and N2?
tony yayo said:
Well, I'm obviously not going to hardwire my laptop or Note. Would simply spending 50 bucks on a router from best buy, also avoiding a rental fee from comcast, improve my optimal speeds for my laptop and N2?
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That's just to trouble shoot if it is your router or modem that is bad so you don't buy a new one when that was not the problem.
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That's just to trouble shoot if it is your router or modem that is bad so you don't buy a new one when that was not the problem.
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Well it's just the normal router that comcast gave us but I believe this was actually the second time we've updated so couldn't it be possible our comcast issued router is outdated? I've never been able to get better on any public wifi. I've just always had this creeping feeling that my account is just old enough to be on a weird plan where I am throttled overall no matter where I'm at opposed to other people. I've just never been able to duplicate the speeds on any phone that other people in my same exact area have. Like I'm handicapped for some reason., I mean, I basically get the same speeds on my N2 that I got on my Sensation, if not lower sometimes, and that just makes no damn sense whatsover. Don't we have a kikass radio over the Sensation?
tony yayo said:
So, not having run a speedtest on my laptop in a while, I actually thought my roommate was lying to me when he said we should be getting faster internet. Apparently he's not. Question being, with the speeds people are pulling on LTE, why can't I pull the same speeds from my wifi on my laptop as my GN2? My laptop is getting 50mbps down, while my Note tops out around 25mbps although yesterday I pulled a couple over 30mbps which has never happened before. Can anyone explain why I'm topping out like that when so much more is capable?
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I'm seeing similar to what you're seeing. I just had Verizon replace my router with a new Actiontec MI424WR which has gigabit & 802.11n. I have FiOS 50/25.
On a laptop running Windows 7 with an Intel 6300n wireless adapter one room away from the router I get 48-55 down. Sitting next to the laptop with the GN2 running ParanoidAndroid 3.15 with the LTE updated modem I get no more than 20 down. If I hold the phone 12 inches from the router in the other room, my Speedtest result hits as high as 33 down. If I take the laptop into the room and run the test next to the router, I consistently see 58 down.
Edit: Prior to getting my router replaced, I had the old Actiontec with 802.11g and if I recall, the laptop & GN2 both got around 12-15 down. Never better. Replacing the router made a huge difference but the laptop saw a high max down.