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Grack is reporting that holes in Sense have made it ridiculously easy for any app to escalate itself to root. He notes in the post that "both Google and Sprint have been very proactive in plugging this hole." He also notes that, while he will be releasing his rooter tomorrow, he won't be explaining it for a week. This makes me wonder if there's an OTA in the works that will close at least his vulnerability in the meantime.
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Grack is reporting that holes in Sense have made it ridiculously easy for any app to escalate itself to root. He notes in the post that "both Google and Sprint have been very proactive in plugging this hole." He also notes that, while he will be releasing his rooter tomorrow, he won't be explaining it for a week. This makes me wonder if there's an OTA in the works that will close at least his vulnerability in the meantime.
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wow, this sounds like a serious security flaw. i'd prefer not to see a worm or malicious 3rd party app gaining root access through poorly coded HTC sense apps.
dont think it will remove NAND protection of /system in normal android mode.
it will provide an alternate way to achieving root access in normal android mode besides loading Flipz ROM.
wonder if removing all sense related software will remove this exploit?
guess we'll be able to start testing tomorrow...
joeykrim said:
wow, this sounds serious.
wonder if removing all sense related software will remove this exploit?
guess we'll be able to start testing tomorrow...
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That's a good point, I guess AOSP 2.1 doesn't have this problem since he says its due to Sprint's additions.
Has HTC / Sprint ever been fast at rolling out an update?
I wouldn't worry, maybe an OTA months down the road, but I wouldn't count on anything within weeks...
The last Sprint phone I had was a RAZR, so I'm a bad source as to their history of timeliness; however, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a different strategy for pushing out a critical security patch than they would for a new system build.
They don't have to rewrite thousands of files against a new trunk build, bounce it between vendors, run extensive Android compatibility suites, etc. It's quite possible they have a few relatively simple changes to make to close grack's hole.
i bet they will patch it when they patch the tethering so that you have to pay for it. some time in july
there will be an update tomorrow. dont know the change log.......
so is it better to root or not to?
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Wow, you had to dig up this thread over a year old just to post "lawl". I'm proud
Usually I hate resurrected threads, but this one deserves a second look.
At this point should we continue to wait for 2.3 root, or build a time machine to prevent the update from being rolled out?
Actually, yeah, this is definitely something worth looking at.
If the exploit still exists, it might be able to get root for people on the OG Evo 2.3.
Anyone look (like teamwin) look into this yet?
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Wow, you had to dig up this thread over a year old just to post "lawl". I'm proud
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Lmao I just hit the last page button
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Nick N said:
Usually I hate resurrected threads, but this one deserves a second look.
At this point should we continue to wait for 2.3 root, or build a time machine to prevent the update from being rolled out?
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Actually, yeah, this is definitely something worth looking at.
If the exploit still exists, it might be able to get root for people on the OG Evo 2.3.
Anyone look (like teamwin) look into this yet?
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Nope, sorry, this was right after the phone was released and long been fixed. All those with the original stock 2.3 are still SOL for now.
Seen this:
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at samsung mobile singapur's facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileSingapore?v=wall&viewas=0)
Don't know if it's, as some people posted after flashing jph, good news.
since JPH is still buggy, they'd better work harder and give it some time
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6 Days To supposedly release
http://www.timeanddate.com/counters...&month=09&day=23&hour=12&min=00&sec=00&p0=195
It wouldn't surprise me.. Software development is never a definitive process. It's impossible to determine how long something will take. Sometimes it takes quicker than expected, sometimes longer.
as i said elsewhere, if they cancel release and work on it further before releasing it's a good thing for us.
if they release the current version they will prolly stop working on fixing the important stuff
if they dont and delay further it means they have realized the "important stuff" REQUIRES fixing before release
in a nutshell:
- RFS performance (replacement would be neat but they are too proud of their own FS or smth.. weird)
- GPS accuracy ( /pray ?)
- Reported critical software bugs (exchange, etc)
Luckily they read XDA
Just a question - how is this question for development section?
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Reported. Please take that racist [email protected]# elsewhere, or if you think you're THAT cool, show me what YOU can do better! Kernel patch to fix lag, stereo FM radio, longer battery life, etc. would do.
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Seen this:
at samsung mobile singapur's facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileSingapore?v=wall&viewas=0)
Don't know if it's, as some people posted after flashing jph, good news.
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Please note that this message is for the Singapure upgrade:
Jerahmeel Zacky Chua So Galaxy S was first released in SG... Are we the first to get Froyo too?
Wednesday at 5:09pm · Flag
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Samsung Mobile Singapore Hi Jerahmeel, unfortunately not. Europe will be getting it first. SG should still be getting at end of Sep.
Samsung UK mobile on twitter are still giving out the "end of September " answer on Twitter so...... who knows. I'd say samsung but I'm starting to doubt that!
We'll just have to wait and see right?
I prefer they another week or 2 to really finalize it and fix all the bugs before releasing instead of rushing for a release which only disappoints.
cheers man, I am personally not offended but some people might be a bit more PC
ontopic: i wouldn't mind upgrading to froyo knowing it had bugs, but at the same time knowing it would get updated within a reasonable time frame. the problem we have with samsung (apart from having to put up with their developing "skills") is that they are very quiet. you only find out about stuff per semi-dodgy twitter or facebook accounts.
very likely samsung is rushing froyo to pre-empt the Desire HD which ships with froyo. (and early previews seems to indicate a very mature froyo at that) and latest reports says the Desire HD may even ship a week earlier...so our buddy Mr Sam Sung is in a bit of a bind here....lol.
rushed the 2.1 to pre-empt the iphone4 and now trying to rush 2.2 to pre-empt the HD....tough being mr sam.
And then they'll rush their new gingerbread phone to market and forget all about their galaxy s customers..... :/
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very likely samsung is rushing froyo to pre-empt the Desire HD which ships with froyo. (and early previews seems to indicate a very mature froyo at that) and latest reports says the Desire HD may even ship a week earlier...so our buddy Mr Sam Sung is in a bit of a bind here....lol.
rushed the 2.1 to pre-empt the iphone4 and now trying to rush 2.2 to pre-empt the HD....tough being mr sam.
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in a way i feel they will struggle from rushing so much...we will see
Maybe it's just how long it takes for every country to customize it or something like that. I read it somewhere.
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And then they'll rush their new gingerbread phone to market and forget all about their galaxy s customers..... :/
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Well if they forget about their Galaxy S customers with regard to Gingerbread, they wont be doing themselves any favours with a phone that's been on the market a less than a year.
I know new Android phones are constantly being released but Samsung will not announce a new phone as soon as Gingerbread is released.
The Galaxy S will still be a flagship product and companies will need to take a leaf out of Nokia's book.
Look how many people stuck with the likes of Nokia for many years.
Companies like Samsung producing Android phones need to start getting their act together with the OS, otherwise it'll end up as a one horse race and the likes of HTC will end up with the largest slice of the market.
I don't expect to see any proper froyo for SSGS in the near future.
However Samsung should at least release the official GPS fix within this September since this problem is already a know issue for a long time and they can have separate development between this and the froyo one.
the galaxy s line is selling very well, so i'd guess that they can not afford to let us standing in the rain when comparable htc/motorola devices get gingerbread. as to the froyo update: i hope they take their time to improve speed and fix the remaining bugs. at least for us 'power-users' (flashers) it would be preferable that they release an official froyo firmware (INCLUDING the SOURCE -> voodoo fix) but improve it further over the next month or 2...
I just got a notification...
I've never had a "non rooted" android phone before, lol...
Do I trust this?
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Yes, you can trust it. Its the EK02 over-the-air update from sprint. It'll update you to Android 2.3.6
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youll loose root, but take the official update anyway as you wont have to erase your data. then simply install root from the EKO2 sticky at development!
I actually HAVEN'T rooted my phone yet, in part because I was curious how OTA updates went, lol.
Still considering holding out for ICS update... But my guess is there will be was too many tasty enhanced ICS-based roms to wait for the stock vanilla-ish one.
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I actually HAVEN'T rooted my phone yet, in part because I was curious how OTA updates went, lol.
Still considering holding out for ICS update... But my guess is there will be was too many tasty enhanced ICS-based roms to wait for the stock vanilla-ish one.
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Don't hold your breath for the official ICS update that Samsung/Sprint will push to our phones. Word last month per Samsung, was that the Galaxy SII line won't see the update until 2nd Qtr 2012 = April-June. And that the Galaxy S3 will be on sale right around that time.
This is very believable too, HTC took 6+ months to update their flagship device at the time, the EVO 4G to Gingerbread, which was originally released on the Nexus-S in December 2010, and the EVO 4G finally got it officially through HTC/Sprint in June 2011.
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Don't hold your breath for the official ICS update that Samsung/Sprint will push to our phones. Word last month per Samsung, was that the Galaxy SII line won't see the update until 2nd Qtr 2012 = April-June. And that the Galaxy S3 will be on sale right around that time.
This is very believable too, HTC took 6+ months to update their flagship device at the time, the EVO 4G to Gingerbread, which was originally released on the Nexus-S in December 2010, and the EVO 4G finally got it officially through HTC/Sprint in June 2011.
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Not to mention, if you ask an OG Epic owner, you'll find that in some cases, you could potentially be waiting 1+ years for an official update from Samsprint... but at least the hardware's nice
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Not to mention, if you ask an OG Epic owner, you'll find that in some cases, you could potentially be waiting 1+ years for an official update from Samsprint... but at least the hardware's nice
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I can confirm that..
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Dude, you're on XDA. Do whatever you want, someone will have a fix for just about everything.
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youll loose root, but take the official update anyway as you wont have to erase your data. then simply install root from the EKO2 sticky at development!
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I realize the OP hasn't rooted his phone and was asking whether or not he can trust the update so where I'm going is somewhat off topic, but...
I've been running rooted but stock. Yesterday Sprint started nagging me about the update. On my old phone, when I said "install later" I would be reminded again in a few days. On THIS phone, it felt like I was being nagged every 15 minutes.
Because Sprint was so insistent, I came here with the same question: "can I trust it?" I read the above post, double checked the EKO2 sticky to make sure I'd still be able to root, then decided to let the Sprint update do it's job. The above post because it lead me to believe I would be unrooted as part of the process.
I let the phone reboot to apply the update. When I checked my phone later it had a warning triangle displayed (not sure if this is the "yellow triangle" or not). I panicked, swore a lot, prayed, and pulled the battery... my phone works. I'm running 2.3.4. I have the EG30 baseband. I still have root. As far as I can tell nothing happened.
In case I decide to stay stock and Sprint starts nagging me about updates again, do I need to unroot in order for the update to work?
This is my concern too. I only recently decided to root my phone and wonder if rooting it will mess up the update. I used the automated root method, and the one that doesn't use ODIN.
Once we get the OTA update will we be able to do a factory reset while retaining that new 2.3.6? Or will the factory reset takes us back to the older version?
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I think I found the answer to my own question, here.
In order to get the OTA update you have to unroot and return to stock.
Blah blah blah, I don't care, please post here if you do because no one will read it because no one cares.
This thread is to gather you all in one place for summary execution.
Thank you for your co-operation.
Better yet. Hopefully an interested party starts another thread.
some members on this forum reported that yesterday/today they have recived an official OTA 4.0.4 for GSM Nexus S.....maybe that is a good sign for us (GNX users)
i bet this won't be the only thread about it
The neckbeards will be agitated tonight.
Honestly I don't care. 4.0.4 leaked way before anyways and if you own the Nexus and didn't flash, well shame on you.
Anyways why do people feel the need to start these kind of threads about the Nexus? Seems like people love trolling on the Nexus. Carry on with your day now.
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I sorta care because I want the update but at the same time I dont care because I can do fine without it and my phone is working just fine on 4.0.2
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i bet this won't be the only thread about it
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I was trying to make it the only one by being a **** about it.
A preemptive thread!
Some people don't understand the purpose of it tho, if they read the op they might.
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Better yet. Hopefully an interested party starts another thread.
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You are first for the firing squad.
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latest picture of xda galaxy nexus owners heading toward google headquarters
Nexus isn't Nexus anymore.
i don't really care if the xoom gets 4.0.4 now and we are up for 4.0.5 in a week. however, what is going on with the ics source code? why isn't 4.0.4 up and available?
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Nexus isn't Nexus anymore.
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Personally, I could care less about when we get the update as long as it's bug free. What bothers me is Google isn't even saying whether they are working on it. I don't care if they don't give us a release date BUT when all these other phones and tablets are getting 4.0.3 and higher, the supposed base version of ICS, it's frustrating. At least give us whatever source code you're working on, Google. But, until then, my Nexus doesn't have any real issues (I think one reboot in the 3 weeks I've had it, and that's the only issue other than battery life I've had) so I can wait. The update will come soon enough, I guess.
agree, pissed off, however I do think we will see 4.0.5 before all the other devices out there..I really hope so
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i don't really care if the xoom gets 4.0.4 now and we are up for 4.0.5 in a week. however, what is going on with the ics source code? why isn't 4.0.4 up and available?
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LOL....way to release rumors. Now we will see 12324345433 threads next week on, "Where is 4.0.5?"
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Haha!
I expected someone to not notice who was posting that and flame me all to hell
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agree, pissed off, however I do think we will see 4.0.5 before all the other devices out there..I really hope so
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But they saw 4.0.3 before we did. Now 4.0.4. Why would 4.0.5 be any different?
*Fans the flames*
ok
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Haha!
I expected someone to not notice who was posting that and flame me all to hell
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The question remains if the Nexus was ever really a Nexus above a Nexus...?
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Hi everybody,
I heard some rumors about the Nexus listed as EOL in various big electronic shops in Germany.
In addition to that, lots of european webshops stopped selling the Nexus after a nasty rise in selling price for the last weeks.
Can anyone comment on that with reliable informations?
the internet told me the phone was at EOL 1 year ago!
My carrier in Canada dropped the Nexus 3 months after first putting it on sale. Even Samsung has admitted in one of the patent trials with Apple that Nexus sales have been "insignificant". The Nexus has been dead as a consumer product for at least 6 months. However, that doesn't mean it is a bad phone. It just means that all the sheeple swayed by CPU cores and megapixels quickly move on to the newest and "best" thing.
EOL means that a certain carrier or OEM will stop giving updates. Since the updates come directly from Google, only Google can determine the EOL, not some shop in Germany or a Canadian carrier. Keep in mind, the Nexus S has received its jellybean update, so I don't think EOL will come anytime soon for the Gnex.
All major stores in the UK have stopped selling it and haven't had it for about 7 months.
I suspect it'll get at least the next update (4.2? 5.0?) If google gets their act together, possibly even more - it's not like the hardware is too limited.
And, of course, xda end of life would be at least a year after that, if not more.
^ Yep. It will be a looong time before the software is too much for the hardware..if ever.
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I suspect it'll get at least the next update (4.2? 5.0?) If google gets their act together, possibly even more - it's not like the hardware is too limited.
And, of course, xda end of life would be at least a year after that, if not more.
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all you gotta do is look at the Nexus S. Still kicking, and strongly. And the Galaxy Nexus is a stronger device hardware-wise.
no EOL in sight!
Yes OP it has been EOL-ed in Malaysia. However, like everyone mentioned, nothing to worry about flash yakju or a custom rom and you will never worry about EOL. Unless if you want to buy another galaxy nexus. Then the best time to buy is now before they go out of sale if they haven't already. Or wait for the next nexus.
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It's a nexus....
end of life is when you break it, lose it or wear it out from so much use.
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All major stores in the UK have stopped selling it and haven't had it for about 7 months.
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Out of Stock has nothing to do with End of Life.
Uh... EOL means the device is no longer manufactured, which will usually follow with less to no software support. The Galaxy Nexus won't be EOL anywhere for quite, quite some time.
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educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-of-life_(product)
granted, the definition is not carved in stone, but as for the Galaxy Nexus I guess we're nearing EOS after the price drops and massive sales in the states and elsewhere. nothing to worry about, Apple does the same with "discontinued" hardware still piling up in their warehouses such as the iPad 2 or iPhone 4S as soon as a successor device is on the horizon. and with the GNex it seems we're in for quite a selection of successor devices before year's end so it's just natural that Google and Samsung stopped production probably some months ago and cleared their warehouses over the last 2 months.
remember, in August 2012 the Nexus S (introduced in December 2010) got upgraded to 4.1.1 JB. I'd guess the GNex will get current firmware versions from Google well into 2014. Keep calm and carry on, guys. It's a Nexus after all ^^
LONG LIVE NEXUS!!
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the internet told me the phone was at EOL 1 year ago!
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This post seems awfully random...
I guess just as much as mine...
Even if the Nexus reaches EOL, it was a pretty decent phone and will have community support for a good while. My ONLY complaint about my Nexus is the USB storage transfer fiasco. I understand technically what its doing, and I understand why they did what they did. That don't make me any happier though. I've found newer ways to transfer files from my pc or other devices to my Nexus, I just wish the ease of USB Mass Storage was there...
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LONG LIVE NEXUS!!
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Our new battle cry!
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so wait a business that deals with cell phones, wants to remove old stock for the latest and greatest, no way
EOL for mainstream consumer and hipsters i guess..
No one mentioned HTC HD2?
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No such thing as eol for a Nexus.
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No such thing as eol for a Nexus.
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Nexus One is the closest thing to it.
But stores not selling it is not the same as EOL.
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