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Wich is the Best tablet option to use with my SGN2?

My firends, I'm thinking that I really need a tablet to complement my SGN2. I don't want to close any option before I hear from you. I'm an advance user, and I'm looking for something that really gives me more that my sgn2. I used to have an iPad I sold it because only my children were using it to play around, but since the anounncement that office 365 was out in USA, I'm thinking to get me an iPad mini. Another choice might be an w8 tablet, since I want it only to get my job done (lots of reports and presentation, microsoft dominates my working environment). I was thinking also to let go my SGN2, get an HTC one and buy a note 10'. What do you think?? Please help me out here.
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My firends, I'm thinking that I really need a tablet to complement my SGN2. I don't want to close any option before I hear from you. I'm an advance user, and I'm looking for something that really gives me more that my sgn2. I used to have an iPad I sold it because only my children were using it to play around, but since the anounncement that office 365 was out in USA, I'm thinking to get me an iPad mini. Another choice might be an w8 tablet, since I want it only to get my job done (lots of reports and presentation, microsoft dominates my working environment). I was thinking also to let go my SGN2, get an HTC one and buy a note 10'. What do you think?? Please help me out here.
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I have been wondering same thing, as I don't want smaller than 10" tablet with my 5,5" phone, also I've been thinking about W8, because would it be slightly stupid to have android tablet with Note 2?
Can't you do everything as with android tablet with your Note 2?
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The thing that Ireally would love to do but I can't are working with powerpoint presentation and advance spread sheets from excell. That's a very down side for android OS. I also work with mindmaps but is very hard to do it right on my sgn2.
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I would honestly go with the iPad, despite what "some" people might say.
You already have an Android phone so you can get best of both worlds if you get an iPad. Similarily, it is hard arguing against the fact that iOS has a slightly better standard of apps than Android and is streets ahead on WP8 (which i actually quite like). Also, more apps are designed specifically for the tablet and you will get the benefits of this.
Therefore, despite how good something like the Nexus 7 and 10 may be, I would definately be more inclined to get an iPad if I ever decided to venture into the tablet world.

Yeah, I see your point. I was thinking w8, but I don't know if it is up to the challenge, and also creating a new account and buy all the software that I need again it just doesn't seems right
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Yeah, I see your point. I was thinking w8, but I don't know if it is up to the challenge, and also creating a new account and buy all the software that I need again it just doesn't seems right
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From my experience I like having Android tablets (a Galaxy 10.1 and an Asus EeeTab) to compliment my Android phone- lots of nice sync-ing between the two from factors is good to have. I also have a w8 RT tablet that gives me all the sync-ing between my PC's (both business and personal). I do have some cross-sync between my Androids and my w8 worlds with Lync and office using sky drive.
I've made a personal choice not to have any Apple in my tech Universe... I simply don't find it very appealing... Same goes for a windows based phone. But anyway, that's the spread that works for my wordl... both all Android and windows 8 based tech.
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How you w8 tablet behave with your work requirements?, does it has a good choice to use it office documents vewing and editing??
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How you w8 tablet behave with your work requirements?, does it has a good choice to use it office documents vewing and editing??
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I found it works fairly well, given of course the smaller screen size. I have the touch (the one with the raised keys) keypad that I can type really well with, plus having a full usb port I can attach a real mouse. Of course the big thing for me will be when windows blue comes to the RT tablet- this is promised to give full outlook. The native mail app is ok, but it's not outlook. Windows blue is due out in the next few months, so this should make my w8 tablet even better. As far as the other office apps, these are like the PC versions and come pre-installed on the RT. Of course, with office 365, web office apps are a possibility as long as you are connected.
Then there is the windows 8 pro tablet that is available now... this is full pc... not really sure it's worth the extra $$$ since the rt does what I like... super mobile, long battery life, inter-connected with the work life, etc. Until Office comes out for Android, I don't know that I can fully switch to the Android platform for my entire mobile life.
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Just an idea, but why not a note 2 with blutletooth mouse and keybord hooked to a monitor via mhl running teamviewer to control a real pc from remote. Or keep the note 2 and buy a 10in tablet and do the same as above?
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It's a good idea, but you'll have to carry all that with you. And I don't see myself leiying dow on my bed with all that, my wife will just kik me out of bed.
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I know exactly what you people need, wait for the samsung ativ q tablet it is bigger than 10 inches and has windows 8 and stock Android (dualboot). I am personally getting it as soon it hits the market
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It may not be to your liking however I have a samsung galaxy note 10.1" and it's been really great.

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It's a good idea, but you'll have to carry all that with you. And I don't see myself leiying dow on my bed with all that, my wife will just kik me out of bed.
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Just an idea, but why not a note 2 with blutletooth mouse and keybord hooked to a monitor via mhl running teamviewer to control a real pc from remote. Or keep the note 2 and buy a 10in tablet and do the same as above?
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One must always consider the possibilities... and indeed RDP into a remote PC... yes doable... then there's those Office Web Apps... but like lauchon... I was thinking about a single smaller than a PC larger than a cell phone device.... and the thought of carry all of that to my Starbucks - I hate lugging the laptop about... so a tablet is my ideal device foot-print. and the Surface tablets fit the bill for me... the touch pad is light and has a mouse area built-in... so a single device can be done... when you don't need the full keyboard and mouse.... like in the bed... you have the touch screen...

Today I saw this articule, what do you think??
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ativ-tab-3-hands-on-galaxy-form-empowered-for-windows-8-20287327/

I Always felt that tablets were useless, but i needed an office compatible device and I decided to go with the Acer iconia w7 .
It has changed my life. Great battery life (up to 6/7 hrs At minimum brightness) good performance (i have the i3 versione) and really awesome full hd display.
It also has Windows 8 pro, so I have a real pc in a really small form factor.
I bought mine for 450 euros, ir was used for one month and actually i was Lucky since it was like new
Give it a try if you can, no office suite on android is able to be a good substitute for office 2013

Did you try CloudOn app ? It might be enough for your MS Office needs (couples with an android tabler or iPad)

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Did you try CloudOn app ? It might be enough for your MS Office needs (couples with an android tabler or iPad)
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I'll give it a try!! thanks

I don't know if you made your mind already. But I must advise you to buy the iPad mini (32gb with cellular).
I played with lots of tablets in my work and I'm telling you, no tablet came near to the qualities of iPad mini.
It's perfect for writing with both hands, very fast, has beautiful screen.
I wanted to buy an android tablet, but when I played with iPad mini, I changed my mind

I compliment mine with a Note 8.0, I do use it for mind mapping but not for spread sheets so I can't comment in those
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Surface pro maybe.
What's better with a phone/tablet hybrid than a tablet/PC hybrid

planning to get one, how is it?

I'm planning to get one for college, how is it (overall)?
but if you're a student using this, please let me know too.

Have had mine for about right hours now. Was thinking of moving down from the 10.1 to something smaller for a while now (GT7.7 is current daily driver). The 10.1 is a great tab but the size is a bit too cumbersome for me. So far, very impressed with the overall experience. Typical quality Samsung build. Got root (MSkip's Tool Kit) no issue. Lecture Notes perform well. Will be doing more as the days go by for meeting notes.
You notice that at first the available space is limited to around 9GB. Plan to add a uSD you'll probably need it.
Screen is same resolution as 10.1 but looks a bit better (smaller screen size helps).
So far it's a keeper.

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Have had mine for about right hours now. Was thinking of moving down from the 10.1 to something smaller for a while now (GT7.7 is current daily driver). The 10.1 is a great tab but the size is a bit too cumbersome for me. So far, very impressed with the overall experience. Typical quality Samsung build. Got root (MSkip's Tool Kit) no issue. Lecture Notes perform well. Will be doing more as the days go by for meeting notes.
You notice that at first the available space is limited to around 9GB. Plan to add a uSD you'll probably need it.
Screen is same resolution as 10.1 but looks a bit better (smaller screen size helps).
So far it's a keeper.
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thanks for the info!

Yea I use mine for college... works well but you will need an sd card. Take a look at the new nexus 7 aswell.
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Honestly, if you want the spen, there is no real alternative. It's very light and thin... perfect for carrying around in public and taking notes.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291973
Here's my thread on my experience

I have had mine for about 2 weeks now and love it. I primarily bought it for the S Pen to use during my meetings at work and my classes at night. . I will say that I am still getting used to writing with the S Pen. I still have issues writing certain symbols and letters with the pen so I am not effective as I want to be. Hopefully that will change soon. As many have said, if you think you will use the S Pen feature a lot, I would highly recommend it. If not, for a cheaper price, I would look at a few other tabs out there.

I would say that unless you want/need/would use the S-Pen, the new Nexus 7 would be the best route to go....and it's half the price. That said, this is the best tablet in it's class for pen support.
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I noticed some people mentioning the Nexus 7, but it has its own drawbacks. Benchmarks posted on Youtube, show the Note 8.0 still beating the new Nexus 7 in some benchmarks. The gpu on the Nexus 7 probably is faster though.
But the Nexus 7" screen really is actually smaller than 7", due to the command buttons being on the screen itself. The Note pen also has more uses than just writing. I find the pen great for selecting items that are in tiny print on a web page, you can also view drop down boxes on websites with the pen by hovering the pen over them, something you can't do by hand.

Note 8.0 is so worth it imo. I wasnt sure like u, but I just went for it cause I wanted a tablet not big or small so of course tried 8 inch and havent regretted it. But I must admit, stock rom (out of the box) I did not like it. I was close to returning it but decided to root and installs civs rom. Since then, my tablet is pure awesome. To me its an ordinary tablet like theothers just has some special features which is modtly the spen and some spen apps.
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Very happy with this good battery life, smooth system, great performance :thumbup:
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im considering this myself. I was wondering, however, has anyone taking notes with the note 2, and how is it? I'd rather wait for the note 3 and basically compact all my devices into to one thing if possible.

Anyone know what gpu the Note 3 is getting? I'm only curious because that's what the Note 8.0 successor will be getting next year...
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thank you guys, i got one today!! although the new nexus is nice, i wanted the s pen!

Has Samsung made any announcements as far as the next generation of the Note 8? I love the S pen but I really need a display higher than 320 ppi...

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Has Samsung made any announcements as far as the next generation of the Note 8? I love the S pen but I really need a display higher than 320 ppi...
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not being a PITA but really would love to know what you'll be using yours for that truly requires that level of pixel density? We are always seeing new uses so it's great to share your use.
My use is just text with a handful of sketching so a screen PPI of 170ish is OK. Butaeyonehas different needs.
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not being a PITA but really would love to know what you'll be using yours for that truly requires that level of pixel density? We are always seeing new uses so it's great to share your use.
My use is just text with a handful of sketching so a screen PPI of 170ish is OK. Butaeyonehas different needs.
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All my books are digital now and unless the display looks like a page (pixels are indistinguishable), my eyes get tired after about half an hour of reading.

evernote. lecture notes, audio master floating, multiwindow. s pen perfect for notes
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I'm planning to get one for college, how is it (overall)?
but if you're a student using this, please let me know too.
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I've been using the note 8 for a while now and if what you want is work and note taking...it's just perfect: here's my set up for note taking:
1) With multiwindow on...
2) EVERNOTE on the left panel (window). --yep EVERNOTE supports MULTIWINDOW hurray!!!!
3) Lecture notes on the right panel(window)
4) Audio Master Floating....floating around.
I know evernote has skitch but switching between this and the main app loses valuable time when you're taking down notes. it's much easier to jot down text on evernote and scribble into lecture notes (side by side)...then if you're done with the lecture, you can just export the entire lecture note scribble onto evernote and everything get's synchronized...plus if you don't wanna export to evernote...that's fine too since images are really a lot of data to upload.
I know evernote also has a built in recording function but again switching between that and the actual text app again loses valuable time, Audiomaster floating is fast, pumps up the voice recording volume (if the speaker is far) and you can save the audio under various formats...and it can record while you write....I know lecture notes has an audiorecorder as well but as I said, it's much faster to have all three options available instantaneously while taking down notes and that's all made possible by...yep,...you guessed it...the note 8.
final APPS:
5) ES file explorer, camera ace on your android phone and FOLDER SYNCLITE:
--SET up es file explorer as an FTP server on your phone or tablet and assign a folder to store all your lecture pics (to be taken for a particular lecture) using camera ace on your phone. Then set up folder sync lite to synchronize those folders between the note 8 and you're android phone...voilia...no more flailing around the large note 8 to take pictures,,,you can take pics with your camera phone (less bothersome) and synchronize it striaght to your note 8 to annotate powerpoint slides captured directly from the phone but edited more efficiently on the larger screen of the note 8 (no internet requiring drop box or other cloud storage service required). This one I haven't had the chance to do yet...But I believe it is possible...
I know all these individual apps are already available on other devices...but none of these even come close to the sheer..."multitasking behemoth" that is the note 8. Actually, the "behemoth" would be the note 10 (which is also great for that size category) so this would make the note 8 the porsche....really easy to slip into a large enough coat pocket (side pockets of course). Built in 3G also adds functionality for early cross referencing using the internet.
Battery life is good...lasts a day (one app at a time use)...but when I use it for this type of simultaneous multitasking (s pen, hover, constantly updating evernote with imports from lecture note), it will probably only last half a day...still no tablet out there can do the same I think in half a day...You can always go back to one app at a time note taking to get the regular bat life...but the option for true multitasking will always be there.
note 8 is expensive but as the name emplies...It's for hard core note taking....
Just my 2 cents worth...good luck to you on your decision.

The Note 8 is a fantastic tablet. While the specs of the new Nexus 7 look impressive for the price, I find 7 inch screens too small. For me 8 inch is the perfect size. Also I actually like TouchWiz and prefer it to stock Android which looks kind of dull.
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Bulishor said:
All my books are digital now and unless the display looks like a page (pixels are indistinguishable), my eyes get tired after about half an hour of reading.
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I had a suspicion it was reading. I've been a longtime ebook guy so I know exactly what you are saying. Better fonts help some folks but not always.
As an aside for the N8. I set the system font to...ROSEMARY @ normal font size plus legibility set to ENHANCED and have been pleased. weirdly COOL JAZZ set to LARGE works for me as well. Those fonts are two I would never have considered because I am a pretty plain & boring Helvetica sorta guy but on the N8 they simply work for my eyes... who knew??
For me its the lighter weight fonts and smaller text where resolution becomes critical. Luckily for me there is something about the way Samsung seems to manage the color temperature of the backlight which helps me a great deal.
My Asus TF 700T (Transformer Infinity) has a lot higher PPI but I find I prefer the end result on my Note 8.0 over reading on the larger device. I will add I haven't put in any reading sessions ( literature not mags) > l-hr. on the N8. So how my eyes feel is still not fully determined.. I do use it all day long and several hours each night.
I have noticed we might have begun to see a return of importance of screen refresh rates. I suspect rhe IPS-type panels aredoing things to make them useless power but at the cost of eyestrain returning. d wish he trade rags had the stones to do real reviews like in the 80's & 90's but fear those days are long gone.
I still do most all my novel reading on my Kindle II.
Thanks for elaborating I'm sure it will help others trying decide which way to jump.
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[Q] Galaxy Note 2014 vs iPad Retina for studying

Dear friends,
I am thinking about trading my ipad 3 for a galaxy note 2014. My use is 90% of the time reading and studying (about 10 hours a day). I think the ipad screen is fantastic, but the software in it is crap.
Do you guys think that the note 2014 screen is better than ipad's? Will it generate less fatigue?
Thanks!

interesting topic...I've never had any tablet and like you I need one mostly for reading,highlighting, making notes, modifying PDF files etc etc
I wait for others to answer, but my pick would be GN 10.1 2014 Ed.

swamks said:
interesting topic...I've never had any tablet and like you I need one mostly for reading,highlighting, making notes, modifying PDF files etc etc
I wait for others to answer, but my pick would be GN 10.1 2014 Ed.
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I'm on the same boat, looking to buy my first tablet but haven't decided which. Main use would be the same as you.
I'm leaning toward the iPad though.. after handling a few tablets, I feel that the ones with 16:9 or 16:10 form factor are not too comfortable to use on portrait mode, it's like you're holding a TV on portrait mode..
I do like the idea of the S-Pen though.. and the Note 2014 was supposed to have the advantage of being released earlier than the iPad 5, but Samsung has missed the release date they had announced, so who knows when it comes out..

I think you'll find that for PDF viewing and editing the iPad is head and shoulders ahead of any Android device. iAnnotate is one of the best apps for editing PDFs on the iPad. Yes the app is available for Android but it isn't even close to as good. Go watch a couple YouTube videos on this subject.

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I think you'll find that for PDF viewing and editing the iPad is head and shoulders ahead of any Android device. iAnnotate is one of the best apps for editing PDFs on the iPad. Yes the app is available for Android but it isn't even close to as good. Go watch a couple YouTube videos on this subject.
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Being an iPad 4 owner, I can say that for annotation, Apple store apps are the best. But for viewing, it's pretty much a wash.
However, ezPDF Reader Pro, for Android, is pretty solid in my opinion, and I wouldn't mind using it as a daily driver. It's got good highlighting and sticky note features, which for me are musts.
It's not as nice as iAnnotate or GoodNotes for iOS, but it gets the job done. Plus you have widget support, whereas on iOS you don't.

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Being an iPad 4 owner, I can say that for annotation, Apple store apps are the best. But for viewing, it's pretty much a wash.
However, ezPDF Reader Pro, for Android, is pretty solid in my opinion, and I wouldn't mind using it as a daily driver. It's got good highlighting and sticky note features, which for me are musts.
It's not as nice as iAnnotate or GoodNotes for iOS, but it gets the job done. Plus you have widget support, whereas on iOS you don't.
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iAnnotate is good on ios but god-awful on android. They haven't bothered to update it. The apple app may be better but the s-pen makes the note a more accurate writing companion. I know, I sold my ipad 2 to get the Note 10.1 (last year's edition). Been waiting forever to upgrade to a clearer screen and stupid Samsung keeps being unclear about release dates.
Maybe it'll be for the best. The 12.2" note is still rumored to be coming out soon and I think that'll be far better for studying.

that s pen would be really really useful for taking notes/markiing on your pdfs and such. thats just me though. i think it's worth the upgrade.

I don't understand why some people are really stressing out about the release date!!! like their lives are at stake lol! we didn't have it so far, we can wait 3-4 more weeks also! I never heard Samsung say it will be released Sep 25th, they said 3rd quarter, and we're not passed the 3rd quarter yet!! not a big deal!! (to me!)

My 2 cents
I am a student in the IT program of a major university and I know for me the iPad was really frustrating. Mostly because of the limitations of ios and the lack of expansion memory. Android devices were much better for me because I could plug it in and transfer files directly back and forth like a portable hard drive, use microsd cards to swap files with people and/or computers and while the apps for the iPad were more polished the android market has been catching up very quickly. In my mind tablets are computers and ios is a phone/mp3 player operating system. For a portable media device the iPad is probably best but at least for me I much prefer the freedom android gives you for work/school productivity. There were apps on iPad that were very well done but in the end for a tablet I couldn't stand the lack of expansion and the shortcomings of the ios.
I should add that I am waiting for the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition myself, though I am without tablet at the moment and getting impatient to have one again so I don't know if I will make it to the release...

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I think you'll find that for PDF viewing and editing the iPad is head and shoulders ahead of any Android device. iAnnotate is one of the best apps for editing PDFs on the iPad. Yes the app is available for Android but it isn't even close to as good. Go watch a couple YouTube videos on this subject.
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In terms of software yes, but i assume that since the note has an active stylus it would be better for handwriting notes on top of PDFs. At least i hope so. This is the primary reason i was planning on buying the note. Should work fine with ezPdf, no?

I am also interested in the Note 10.1 for pdf reading and annotation.
And while the choice of annotation apps may be a bit better on iOS, there are decent enough apps on Android. Plus I think the inbuilt Samsung note-taking software and features like multi-window look very useful and you obviously can't get that on the iPad.
The biggest advantage of the Note 10.1 for annotation is obviously the stylus and IMO that trumps any app advantage on iOS. For me a proper Wacom stylus is far superior for annotation to either an on-screen keyboard or a capactive stylus.
I also prefer Android for general file management and transfer purposes as well as expandable storage. In my experience iTunes is a piece of crapware and I would like to stay as far away from it as possible.
Finally the Note 10.1 has higher pixel density (299 ppi versus 264 ppi) and is much lighter (535 grams versus 652 grams)
Overall it's a very easy decision for me.

I vote for Note 10.1, it has S Pen + Split screen where you open the slides and Note app at the same time, plus easier file transfer and management
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I'm on the same boat, looking to buy my first tablet but haven't decided which. Main use would be the same as you.
I'm leaning toward the iPad though.. after handling a few tablets, I feel that the ones with 16:9 or 16:10 form factor are not too comfortable to use on portrait mode, it's like you're holding a TV on portrait mode..
I do like the idea of the S-Pen though.. and the Note 2014 was supposed to have the advantage of being released earlier than the iPad 5, but Samsung has missed the release date they had announced, so who knows when it comes out..
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The GN 10.1 2014 edition will be available on October 10th and the writing is much more precise on the note. Plus the multi-window feature is great.

I think the displays will be a wash. For studying (I assume you are in school), EZpdf Reader Pro is indeed a very nice app. I also highly recommend LectureNotes and the add on audio app. I use it to take handwritten notes and record class lectures. Class Buddy Pro is also a good school app as you can imput all your schedules, when papers are due etc and have it sync with your google calendar.
I think the S Pen puts the Note 10.1 above all other tablets. I would like the price to be lower, but I will still buy it. Multi-window, the new screen, and all the other upgrades make this a must upgrade for me.
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wingdo said:
I think the displays will be a wash. For studying (I assume you are in school), EZpdf Reader Pro is indeed a very nice app. I also highly recommend LectureNotes and the add on audio app. I use it to take handwritten notes and record class lectures. Class Buddy Pro is also a good school app as you can imput all your schedules, when papers are due etc and have it sync with your google calendar.
I think the S Pen puts the Note 10.1 above all other tablets. I would like the price to be lower, but I will still buy it. Multi-window, the new screen, and all the other upgrades make this a must upgrade for me.
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you seem to have tried some of these apps. Which do you think is best for annotating pdf's. I mostly need something good for reading, highlighting and occasionally drawing diagrams and what not over top of PDF's. I'll probably want to quickly jot hand notes over top as well. I've used ezPDF and like it, haven't tried much else.

Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2
I don't want to derail this conversation, but since we're comparing different platforms I wanted to throw W8 into the mix. Specifically I was looking at the Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2.
It has a Atom Z2760 (2x 1.8GHz) processor, 2GB RAM, a Wacom stylus and full Windows 8. It would actually be cheaper than the GN10.1-2014 (32GB), even if I went with the 64GB version.
Has anybody had any experience using W8 as a tablet OS? Specifically with the pen, is there anything that compares to LectureNotes? There is OneNote, of course, but I have no experience with it.
What I just can't really imagine is using a W8 recreationally. I have no idea if there is, for example, a Feedly compatible RSS reader, a good podcast app (that syncs with my phone's podcast app), or a music app that supports Google Music.
What do you guys think?

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I don't want to derail this conversation, but since we're comparing different platforms I wanted to throw W8 into the mix. Specifically I was looking at the Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2.
It has a Atom Z2760 (2x 1.8GHz) processor, 2GB RAM, a Wacom stylus and full Windows 8. It would actually be cheaper than the GN10.1-2014 (32GB), even if I went with the 64GB version.
Has anybody had any experience using W8 as a tablet OS? Specifically with the pen, is there anything that compares to LectureNotes? There is OneNote, of course, but I have no experience with it.
What I just can't really imagine is using a W8 recreationally. I have no idea if there is, for example, a Feedly compatible RSS reader, a good podcast app (that syncs with my phone's podcast app), or a music app that supports Google Music.
What do you guys think?
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that thing runs full windows 8. it shouldn't have an issue running google music in the browser. I'd want to see the tablet myself before passing any judgment. Previous atom tablet were kinda clunky. The display seems pretty low res

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that thing runs full windows 8. it shouldn't have an issue running google music in the browser. I'd want to see the tablet myself before passing any judgment. Previous atom tablet were kinda clunky. The display seems pretty low res
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Yes, the display doesn't have a great resolution, more or less that of the original Note 10.1.
I guess you could say that, because it runs full Windows 8, there is no app-shortage. But I don't think it'd be very satisfying having to use the browser for many of your 'apps'.

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you seem to have tried some of these apps. Which do you think is best for annotating pdf's. I mostly need something good for reading, highlighting and occasionally drawing diagrams and what not over top of PDF's. I'll probably want to quickly jot hand notes over top as well. I've used ezPDF and like it, haven't tried much else.
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I have tried all the PDF apps and EZPDF Pro is by far the best IMO . iAnnotate is a Samsung suggested app but I personally do not care for it .
As far as note taking apps Lecture Notes is #1 in my book and Write is also liked. For my med classes I love Lecture Notes for ease of use and audio recordings. For the rest write is an incredible free app.
I have had several tablets over the last few years, the note Is my first "must have'' tool.
Sent from my Note 10.1 via tapatalk.

with the win 8 tab you can run the full version of adobe cs suite. i've got cs5 on mine and works without any problems. I'm not too familiar with the free alternatives since I pretty much have to use the full adobe suite for work.
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I don't want to derail we're comparing different platforms I wanted to throw W8 into the mix. Specifically I was looking at the Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2.
It has a Atom Z2760 (2x 1.8GHz) processor, 2GB RAM, a Wacom stylus and full Windows 8. It would actually be cheaper than the GN10.1-2014 (32GB), even if I went with the 64GB version.
Has anybody had any experience using W8 as a tablet OS? Specifically with the pen, is there anything that compares to LectureNotes? There is OneNote, of course, but I have no experience with it.
What I just can't really imagine is using a W8 recreationally. I have no idea if there is, for example, a Feedly compatible RSS reader, a good podcast app (that syncs with my phone's podcast app), or a music app that supports Google Music.
What do you guys think?
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[Q] Should i buy note 2014?

Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<

gintariukeas said:
Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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I also came from an iPad mini (the original one), so I'm right on the same page. The resolution on that device wasn't so hot.
1) I think it's perfect for reading. It really depends where you're reading, though. If you're worried about the size, just get a textbook or something of similar size, and judge it for yourself. For me, it works great for reading.
2) I haven't timed the battery myself. For the size, I feel like it has pretty decent battery life. I use it to take notes during classes, and in a 3 hour class, with the screen on the entire time, I see about a 100 to 70 percent drop. I'm happy with that.
3) The sPen is a LIFE SAVER! I use it all the time for taking notes. I use the Stylus Beta keyboard (on the Playstore) and it works exceptionally. With stylus beta and evernote, it's the perfect setup for me. Much faster than messing around with the onscreen keyboard.
4) It depends how much it is now. I haven't really looked recently. It has been out for awhile now, so I wouldn't pay full price now like I did when I bought it. Shop around, for sure. I've been really happy with my tablet though. It's a HUGE upgrade from the iPad mini in every way, shape, and form.

I've had them all ipad mini, air, note 8, note pro 12.2 and note 2014 10.1. The note 10.1 is perfect and I tell you why..
Ipad mini to restricted by Apple and I hate iTunes.
Ipad air, same reasons as mini.
Note 8, perfect portability, but s pen sucked because you had to write 45 degree angle or higher, plus s pen not good on small screen.
Note pro, loved it but portability sucked, to heavy, and not with $650.
10.1 perfect size and functions.
If you're smart buy a used one off ebay or Craig'slist. You can find them for $350
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gintariukeas said:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
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1. Very comfortable for me, I mainly use it for reading.
2. Without energy saving, I only charge it once every 3 days with my usage, but you can google for non-stop results. I think it's 11 hours for browsing and 4-5 hours for movies. Not sure.
3. I don't use it for anything.
4. If you buy on Amazon or Ebay, it's worth the money, but don't go to local shops if you live in EU, they have too high prices.

gintariukeas said:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
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It's thin and light enough, with a screen that's big enough. you were on an iPad, so you understand tablet reading -it is what it is... Never quite the same as the real thing, but an acceptable compromise.
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2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
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This really depends on what you've got running. If you let it idle, it will survive until day four. If you play some games watch some movies, browse some sites, it's possible to drain the battery in 5 hours. Generally speaking, on moderate to heavy use, you can get by on a charge per day.
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3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
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Somewhere between a gimmick and a handy tool. There are some apps that will let you take some advantage of the S-Pen's functionality, and Samsung has a few, especially if you're thinking of it as an alternate interface/input method (in which case it's superb). But if you're thinking this will replace your paper and pen; meh, I wouldn't throw away my notebooks and pencils just yet. The truth is the current technology (Wacom, N-Trig, etc.) will always lag behind your hand writing, and there will always be a glitch here and there (no matter how beastly the hardware you're using is). There will be people who swear by it. They are lying; most likely to themselves. This can be a tolerable compromise, but it will never match a [hardware] keyboard or a pen and paper -and it's not exactly the perfect amalgamation either. In a pinch it will certainly do, and for annotating PDFs and whatnot, it's tough to beat -but a real book and a real pen is just orders of magnitude superior. Where this compromise takes lead is in the fact that one book weighs several of these, while one of these can be multitudes of books, the internet, a gaming console, and so much more (which by now you understand -based on your iPad Mini experience).
gintariukeas said:
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
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Honestly? I really want to say yes, but the answer is no. Two reasons: 1 It's a Samsung. Samsung is shoddy workmanship backed by worse customer support. 2 At this price you're starting to encroach on surface pro price range, and the Fujitsu Stylistic Q584. Yes, these machines do cost a little more -but they also do everything you expect from a computer. And if you're thinking of the pen -OneNote is king among all. A [non-Windows] tablet is a consumption device with some communication and minimal productivity capabilities. At the price Samsung is asking, it's not worth it.
gintariukeas said:
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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So for question five [Do you recommend/would you do again]
I have a love-hate relation with android (especially Samsung). It promises so much, and the kicker is that it often does deliver... just not quite the way you'd expect. It's a little like "Bedazzled " where the devil grants your wish, but in a way that nearly renders it moot. I dislike iOS because of its limited functionality, general interface (lack of buttons and setting menus on apps themselves) -and quite frankly the active digitizer is a great tool. But iOS is consistent, robust and reliable. So, I will be forfeiting my Note 10.1 2014 in to an iPad Air [but I'll be forfeiting my iPhone 5s for a note 3 (or 4)].
If ever I do get another Android tablet -it will never cost this much again, because they're not worth it. I regret getting my note 10.1. You got to take that with a grain of salt, given my personal experience which is unlikely [yet possible] to be yours.
How do I reconcile paying nearly as much for a note phone? they're nearly everything the tablet ought to be in a much more wield-able form factor with an actual [good] usable camera. Who is going to tote around their tablet all day every day? Who is going to pull that behemoth out to snap a quick shot? Not I. But the Phablet? For me, it's just the right size to take everywhere every time; and it's smaller than most real cameras (or close enough).
How would I reconcile paying nearly as much for an iPad. Apple's customer service is a little more robust than Samsung. And limited though these devices are -they do what they are designed to do -far more reliably and consistently than most of the android devices I have owned. And like it or not, an Apple product is an Apple product. You take that out, and people around you know what's the deal. But when you unleash your Samsung Note 10.1 2014 people look at it, and know it's a tablet that wishes it could bear the prestige of an Apple product. True nerds will think "wow cool!" Everyone else will think "cheap knock-off wanna-be iPad". Who cares? You shouldn't. But I now realize, I do (a little), because for that price I prefer the prestigious ice-breaker, than trying to justify the awesomeness of my [now defunct, probably still working had it been an iPad] device. Last but not least, I was an early adopter of the Windows 8 tablets and I have a Sony Vaio 11 [regrettably -now that Q584 and Surface Pro 3 are viable options]; and thus it's going to have to be a while before I get another Windows tablet. (I'm inclined to wait until at least Windows 9+).
Maybe this is a little (or a lot) more than you asked for. But I wish someone would have warned me.
Lastly, on the note 8. Unless it's less than 1/3 the cost of the note 10.1 2014 -it's a bad move. Note 8 has all the shortcomings of the 10.1 plus the fact that it's inferior hardware (not least of which is the screen quality), thus amplifying all the pangs. Not to mention you just got done complaining about the iPad mini for being too small.
TLDR;
No. Don't get it. I'm sure there are tons of people who will tell you that it's a good get. I'm sure they have favorable experiences -and there is a lot to love there. But in the end it's not worth the price because it's Samsung and it's Android. At that price point you might as well spend a few bucks more and get Windows (but not RT!) especially if you're serious about it as a study tool: OneNote crushes everything that does and does not exists in the multi-universe. Otherwise pay less and get something else.

gintariukeas said:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
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i think it's a great size and light to hold, fine for reading texts, pdfs, books (Kobo), websites. i was surprised to find it was smaller than my TF700 (piece of crap!) -- Sammy did a great job with the side bezels.
gintariukeas said:
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
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depends on how much you use it. it's not my only tool for work/leisure, but i would charge between every one and two days. (also, for me it takes about 5hrs charge to go from 20% to 100%.)
gintariukeas said:
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
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very useful for me (print designer): making notes at meetings (sNote out of the box), marking up text and layouts and pdfs and images. doing revisions this way is much more efficient that printing out (or waiting for) a colour proof, marking that up, and then couriering it to a client — especially if i'm working remotely or in transit somewhere. i can't go entirely paperless of course, but for everything up to final colour proofs, it's works great.
scrapbook is also really handy when tripping through websites or videos. the one thing i've no use for is the windows function though. that said, the sPen really changed my perspective on what a tablet can/should do: i won't buy another tablet with out sPen or similar capability.
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4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
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if you need sPen, want a 2K screen, and you like Android, this is THE ONLY tablet to get. i waited until KK came out and a bunch of the earlier bugs (software and hardware build) were addressed though. with Sammy, i find it's good to wait for a few months after launch for them to get things right. also, now being able to get Samsung's Remote PC functionality is great.

gintariukeas said:
Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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Biggest issue. It's a Samsung! Plastic piece of ****. Build quality from hell. Have to return mine for creaky body and the bezel start to come loose from the glas. 750€ tablet with quality worse than a 129€ tablet.
The screen is nice, very bright and res is nice for reading, s pen is good for drawing and if u like to take notes but the apps that support stylus is quite few and samsungs s note and action memo is quite crappy. Besides the screen and the stylus which is nice if u need it. But its mostly a gimmick, i just cant recommend this POS. Did i mention that it lags like hell on stock firmware. Had to root and run custom to get decent performance and it still runs worse than my s4 with cm. I regret every day that I wasted over 700€ on this crap. Check around and you will see i ain't the only one who is dissatisfied with it. Buy something else than Samsung. Dont lesrn that lesson the hard way

If pen is not your critical.
Standby and wait for new Tab S series it will come with AMOLED display !!! .

I had an iPad Mini1, it was cute but that's it. The screen is not great and the battery wasn't as good as people say it is.
I also had an iPad3 and the screen was nice but it was uncomfortable to hold and I think the aluminium casing is slippery without a case.
iOS just sucks even though there are really good quality apps.
I've had a ton of android 10" tablets from Xoom, Tosh Thrive, Asus Transformers TF101, TF201, TF300, TF700 and Padfone Infinity.
I still have the TF700 and the Padfone Inifnity. The TF700 runs like a POS, slow and stutters and freezes up. I have a feeling the 1gb RAM is crippling it. I don't understand it when the prime and Tf300 was no where as bad, but I like the form factor very much and use it like a laptop and for remote desktops access it is great.
The padfone infinity is pretty awesome and it runs very fast, quadrant score is about 3 times that of the TF700 and feels like it. If it had an active stylus and a keyboad dock, I'd be happy with that as my only device since it is also a phone. My only problem with it is no SD slot so I got the 64gb version. I'm keen on the Padfone Infinity 2 but haven't tried it yet.
I also have a Surface RT and it is great for MS Office and File Explorer with a desktop. As well as that, I have an Asus Vivotab smart ME400C which is atom based Windows8 tab and runs full windows desktop apps.
Before I got my Note10 (P605) I had a Note 8 5100 (wifi+3G) and it is a GREAT tablet. It is snappy and light and runs soooo good. The only thing is the screen is not even as good as an ipad mini but it ****s on every other tablet I have owned for usability. IT IS THAT GOOD! if Samsung made a Note Pro 8.4 like their tab pro 8.4, I'd be there in a snap.
This brings me to my Note 10.1 2014 (P605 with 4G). The screen is awesome, the size is awesome, the speed is great (not as snappy as Note 8 in a lot of ways believe it or not!). I'm still on 4.3 but then my Note 8 is on 4.2. The pen is better on the Note10 than the Note8 and if you only got the Note10 to run Sketchbook ONLY, it would be worth every cent on that sweet screen. I do a lot of reading on it and the screen is just awesome. I photo edit and preview on it and its great. I also use it to annotate PDFs and draw stupid things for fun.
I'm still grabbing the Note8 most of the time when I head out of the house, simply because I can jam it into my coat pocket and cargo pants pockets. but at home, I'm on the Note10 all the time.
I love the Note10 and if I had to live with just 1 tablet and my Note 3 phone, I would pick the Note10 without hesitation.
PS. With regards to the negative comments, don't try to find the perfect tablet, it doesn't exist! Everything has a compromise but this Note10 hits a VERY NICE sweetspot and I would recommend it for student use if running windows apps is not a neccessity. Even then, I would try and get away with that by remote desktop because the Note 10 does everything else soooo much better.
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manhattan212;53168349: ...OneNote crushes everything that does and does not exists in the multi-universe. Otherwise pay less and get something else.[/QUOTE said:
Papyrus pen UI beats One Note windows for actual Notetaking. However One Note has better management, so the solution is to use Papyrus to take notes and then move it to One Note for storage and management thru Android OneNote.
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warboat said:
I love the Note10 and if I had to live with just 1 tablet and my Note 3 phone, I would pick the Note10 without hesitation.
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I'm sure Samsung must be proud to have such staunch supporters. But the key point isn't just how great the machine is. The keypoints are this, this, and this. And for every one of us that actually posts -imagine the countless others that don't go online to post questions in forums. The countless others who just take the loss in stride, because they have little or no recourse.
In short, the Note 10.1 2014 has great promise, but buying Samsung is like playing Russian roulette. The hardware has great probability of failing, and Samsung has no problem screwing customers over. So I for one feel it's wrong to not warn people against the Note 10.1 2014. Because chances are, the tablet isn't going to fail you in those first 30 days, when you can take it back to the store you bought it and get yoru money back -no questions asked. It's going to fail you 32 days in. And then you're relying on Samsung's warranty -which isn't just going to let you walk into a local Samsung shop and shove your defective tablet into one of their [non-geniuses] mouths and let you walk out of the shop with a new replacement in hand. Other companies do that, Samsung just gives you the runaround, and cheats you out of your money.
warboat said:
PS. With regards to the negative comments, don't try to find the perfect tablet, it doesn't exist! Everything has a compromise but this Note10 hits a VERY NICE sweetspot and I would recommend it for student use if running windows apps is not a neccessity. Even then, I would try and get away with that by remote desktop because the Note 10 does everything else soooo much better.
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When it comes to buying the Note 10.1 (2014)...
Harry Callahan said:
I know what you're thinking. 'Did the SM-P605 fire six shots or only five'? Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, i kind of lost track myself. But being that this is a Samsung, the most powerful tablet in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, punk?
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I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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paddycr said:
I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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There's no or very little lag on 4.4. I use my N10.1-14 probably heavier than most here because I'm a productivity user. I was just thinking to myself today what an amazing device it is (after owning it since October). I was working on a complicated Word document. I like to get the meat of a document done in Hancom locally and then finish it via RDP on my Windows desktop PC to guarantee the formatting's correct. Here's what I had open at the same time - Hancom (viewer and editor), Jump Desktop keeping a connection alive to my home PC with Word running, and two instances of Samsung's My Files in multi view to drag-and-drop files I needed between my device, home FTP server and Dropbox. On top of that I was watching Amazon Instant Video in a Pop-up-play window using PlayOn, connected to a BT keyboard and mouse, and listening to the audio via an AptX BT pendent. Also, so I didn't need to pull my phone out for calls or messages, I was using SideSync to display it on my N10.1-14 minimized. I have a 3G device so all this was being done over AT&T's HSPA+ network because the coffee house I was in had too many people on Wi-Fi. And that was all with little or no lag. Try that on another 10.1" tablet.
But as amazing as all that is to me, if you're purely a consumption user, you won't appreciate all the N10.1-14's features, the resources they take up, and Samsung's added UI clutter to get them all to work together. For consumption, stick to your N10, get an iPad, or consider the Teg4 Asus TF701 which is down to $299 new and has the same screen resolution as both the N10 and N10.1-14. The people *****ing about the N10.1-14 probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place based on what they use a tablet for.
Happy shopping.

BarryH_GEG said:
But as amazing as all that is to me, if you're purely a consumption user, you won't appreciate all the N10.1-14's features, the resources they take up, and Samsung's added UI clutter to get them all to work together. For consumption, stick to your N10, get an iPad, or consider the Teg4 Asus TF701 which is down to $299 new and has the same screen resolution as both the N10 and N10.1-14. The people *****ing about the N10.1-14 probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place based on what they use a tablet for.
Happy shopping.
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Thanks for your reply. I have a note 3 and love s-note for taking notes at work. The problem is that the screen is too small to use it on a regular basis - I find myself frequently going back to pen and paper. So i'm thinking of ditching the note 3 and getting a 10.1. Good excuse for a new phone too
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paddycr said:
I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
Sent from my Nexus 10 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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I have over a dozen Android devices and there is always some lag, somewhere in each of them.
As long as its not significant, you shouldn't get hung up about the lag.
The thing you want out of android is functionality and there isn't a better 10" weapon right now than the Note 10 2014.
In terms of raw potential, the Nexus 10 Mali 604 GPU will top out at 72gflops.
Note 10.1 2014 Exynos: 102gflops
Note 10.1 2014 Qualcomm SD800:130gflops
Ipad Air A7: 115gflops
Asus TF701 (Tegra4): 97gflops
You have 4 million pixels to push around. Gflops matter.

I'm not sure what your main use is, but if you are a student and you are in a major that requires a lot of math, BUY THIS TABLET. If you will not be using the stylus often, there may be better options. There is a noticeable amount of lag on the stock rom and stock firmware, which confused me because the specs seem great. After rooting the device and switching roms it is much smoother.
I literally bought this tablet to run LectureNotes for my math classes. I have had a big issue with lag specifically in that app (only that app - others had zero lag), but I finally got it down to probably <30ms response time in LectureNotes while writing. I had to find the OEM 4.4.2 firmware/rom and flash it prior to flashing a modded 4.4.2 rom. A bunch of tweaking was also necessary in the app's settings, but I actually found that the high resolution was my issue. I then lowered the resolution of my notebooks, turned fast rendering and page rendering OFF, used SetCPU to max out the CPU when the screen was on and LectureNotes was in the foreground. This significantly decreased my lag in LectureNotes. All of this only applies to that specific app. Nothing else had any lag once I was rooted and on a custom rom.
Would I recommend this tablet? It depends. If you are strictly going to use it out of the box, and keep it stock, my answer is no. I would get something with a lighter ROM out of the box. Possibly something AOSP. If you are a student and/or you plan on using the stylus often, it is worth every damn penny. My tablet replaced my math notebooks. Using LectureNotes to do math is SO much faster than pencil and paper, because of the custom tools that you are able to use. Constructing certain figures and graphs are so much quicker on the tablet than having to draw everything out.

warboat said:
I have over a dozen Android devices and there is always some lag, somewhere in each of them.
As long as its not significant, you shouldn't get hung up about the lag.
The thing you want out of android is functionality and there isn't a better 10" weapon right now than the Note 10 2014.
In terms of raw potential, the Nexus 10 Mali 604 GPU will top out at 72gflops.
Note 10.1 2014 Exynos: 102gflops
Note 10.1 2014 Qualcomm SD800:130gflops
Ipad Air A7: 115gflops
Asus TF701 (Tegra4): 97gflops
You have 4 million pixels to push around. Gflops matter.
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Have you had a Nexus 10 and is it's overall performance comparable to the Note 10.1? I get a little paranoid about these benchmarks - I had a TF700T before my Nexus 10, which I recall benchmarked well. Even after unlocking, rooting and flashing custom firmware it was a completely unusable POS because of the lag.
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Would I recommend this tablet? It depends. If you are strictly going to use it out of the box, and keep it stock, my answer is no. I would get something with a lighter ROM out of the box. Possibly something AOSP. If you are a student and/or you plan on using the stylus often, it is worth every damn penny. My tablet replaced my math notebooks. Using LectureNotes to do math is SO much faster than pencil and paper, because of the custom tools that you are able to use. Constructing certain figures and graphs are so much quicker on the tablet than having to draw everything out.
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I agree, my Note 3 flies now I have ditched stock. However, the only thing that worries me about this is the knox 0x1 issue. Has anyone reported getting warranty service with this flag on their Note 10.1 ? It is not an issue with my Note 3 because T-mobile couldn't care less...

Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=321428263654&alt=web
Price is a big issue but you can get it factory refurbished for $299. For that price this device looks a lot better imo

paddycr said:
Even after unlocking, rooting and flashing custom firmware it was a completely unusable POS because of the lag.
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That wasn't the SoC or even s/w. Asus is notorious for putting slow-as-crap bargain basement NAND in their devices.

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Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=321428263654&alt=web
Price is a big issue but you can get it factory refurbished for $299. For that price this device looks a lot better imo
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I was about to tell OP for this link. haha.
I bought one for 299-39 bucks ebay cash so total came out to be 260 which is fantastic deal. Still waiting for it to be shipped.
I am original Note 10.1 owner so I can't comment on this 2014 ones but with my original 10.1 being my main notebook in college, I can't recommend enough. Everybody experience may varies depending on the usage and expectation. I took all of my notes using the tablet with the LectureNote app. Fantastic tool.
I expect nothing less from 2014 10.1 and can't wait to get it.

[Q] Should I keep my Note 10.1 2014 or move on?

I have been a Samsung fan for a long time. I had the original Note 10.1 and loved it. I have had my 2014 model since it came out, so about 15 months now. I use it for business all day long and keep all of my client notes on it. I use it to consume media and the occasional game. I do not think I am rough on it but like I said I use it about 12 hours a day.
My issue is that it seems to be riddled with problems all of the sudden. Almost like it was not built to last. I did not think at the time to buy an extended warranty because I have never had an issue with Samsung quality. Now that I am 2 months out of warranty I have the dreaded black screen of death issue, which I have fixed several times by opening the device and disconnecting the cables. Now when it happens I do not have to open it up , I just press on the back a few times and it fixes it. The S-pen detached message is now a problem due to the s pen not making contact with the sensor which causes the screen to kick on making my battery drain because I do not see the screen on while in the case.
So my question is
1. Since I use it so heavily should I expect to replace it more often? Should I buy a new one and pony up for the square trade (or better) extended warranty?
2. Should I upgrade to the 12.2? Does it fix some of the problems that seem to be inherent to the 2014?
3. Do I bail all together and go with w Surface Pro 3? ( Really don't want to do this because I have the Note 3 phone and sync my notes between it and the note 2014. The note 3 phone may be the best phone I have ever had.
Thoughts?

It does sound like you've used your note pretty heavily and the problems sound like physical wear & tear. You definitely need a device that stands up to your use patterns. Spen will always be a point of wear with prolonged use, so other notes will prob see similar life spans in that regard. I have had note ii over 2 yrs and haven't used the spen the amount you say you have (I only used the spen for a prolonged, 6 month period- every day for class notes) on the note tablets, so I haven't ever experienced these problems. Other questions you have I cant answer.
Edit: so I guess all I can answer is; you will now probably have to expect getting a new device more often since you use them heavily. Although, I really would have thought these tab/phablets to last longer

Im in a similar situation as you. My screen is not working anymore. It has like a 10% chance of turning on. Im going to send it in and see if they repair it. If I have to pay I will open it up and have a look myself.
I have had 4 samsung tablets. The note 10.1 is the first tablet that has broken on me like that.
I also own a 12.2. I think it has a better build quality. It doesnt have the bubbles under the screen. I think they fixed some engineering errors that the 10.1 has.
I would consider selling the 10.1 and getting the 12.2 in your place. Im considering getting a second 12.2 as well.
Personally I dont see a benefit in a microsoft surface opposed to the note 12.2. Windows is not a touchscreen OS and its not fun to use. I only use my tablet for taking handwritten notes and the Samsung note series is the best at that specific task.

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Personally I dont see a benefit in a microsoft surface opposed to the note 12.2. Windows is not a touchscreen OS and its not fun to use. I only use my tablet for taking handwritten notes and the Samsung note series is the best at that specific task.
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I recently sold my Note 10.1 2014 for a Surface Pro 3 and will never look back. Nothing beats having a full desktop OS in this form factor. I am a student and use to use my Note for handwritten notes extensively. I always found the experience super frustrating. Firstly, a TON of websites that my school required me to use wouldn't work on a mobile browser. I tried everything. Different browsers, sideload flash, etc. Yes, the note was more of a productivity tablet than any other android tablet, but a lot of the productivity features felt extremely half baked.
Onenote. Full stop. /thread.
Once you have used Onenote on the SP3 there is nothing that compares on the android side of things. I used LectureNotes all the time for in class note, and it is AWESOME software with an AWESOME dev, but it just isn't capable of the same things that you can do with OneNote.
I have to disagree with you about windows not being a touch friendly OS. No, it isn't made specifically for touch, but it works to be sure. Until you use Windows for a couple of days on a touch device, can't really say it's terrible.
Anyway... I don't want to sit here and laud the Surface Pro 3 all day and detract from the overall topic sounding like a major fan boy, but in the week that I've owned it, I feel it has EASILY replaced my Note and even exceeded my expectations. This too is coming from a super huge android fan that thought android could do what any other OS could do by a long shot. I was super resistent to joining another ecosystem as I've used android exclusively since 2009, but I'm glad I did. OP, the ultimate decision is yours. Try a SP3 for 14 days and return if you dislike. I will say for me, it was time to move on from Samsung's Note line. With their locked down software and terrible update history...
Done.... I swear.
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rap6388 said:
3. Do I bail all together and go with w Surface Pro 3? ( Really don't want to do this because I have the Note 3 phone and sync my notes between it and the note 2014. The note 3 phone may be the best phone I have ever had.
Thoughts?
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Forgot to add, I think you can get Onenote for android now with support for handwritten notes. It would sync automatically with your SP3 if you purchase one.

Maybe moving for the NEXUS 9... What you guys think?
thnx

@supremekizzle
What makes OneNote better than similar apps on an android tablet? I watched some video reviews on the Surface3 and most reviewers say that OneNote has lots of features but what are those features?
I for example have a laptop and 2 android tablets. I really miss some kind of instant sync feature of notes between the devices. Open documents as tabs and a way to split the screen like in adobe PDF pro would be cool too.

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@supremekizzle
What makes OneNote better than similar apps on an android tablet? I watched some video reviews on the Surface3 and most reviewers say that OneNote has lots of features but what are those features?
I for example have a laptop and 2 android tablets. I really miss some kind of instant sync feature of notes between the devices. Open documents as tabs and a way to split the screen like in adobe PDF pro would be cool too.
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There are tons of features in onenote. I have only scratched the surface in exploring. This feature sounds super sick https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Take-linked-notes-19a63ea7-0559-46c6-bf1f-b6455e3e66c1
Basically when your in a note taking session, any webpage that you open and anything that you research is automatically tied into the notes.
The recording also works better than Lecturenotes. One of the biggest frustrations that was alleviated for me when switching to onenote was the importing of pdfs. I get huge PDF powerpoints from my professors and it always took a good 5 minutes to be imported into lecturenotes. With onenote it's almost instant.
Just overall the whole experience of note taking and school work is just better on a full blown PC. I know there are a lot of work arounds for android to make certain things work, but with SP3 I just don't feel that limitation at all. It makes for a liberating experience. Like wearing a latex suit all of your life and then joining a nudist colony

It sounds like you have similar usage as me and knock on wood I haven't had any issues besides the battery not lasting as long as it use to. I personally love the S Pen and nobody else has that function so switching platforms wouldn't be ideal for me.
If my tablet were to break I would look at the 12.1 or pick up a refurbished 10.1. with an extended warranty.

If you can get it fixed, I would keep it. I'm in a somewhat similar situation, but my Note isn't broken. I've used this thing for over a year and loved it. A couple of weeks ago I bought a surface pro 3 and ever since then I haven't touched the Note.
If you can't keep it, I would suggest moving onto a Windows tablet/hybrid if you value productivity. Many people will probably disagree with this, but it depends on what you want to use it for. Yes the Surface is much more expensive than the Note, but there are alternative Windows hybrids that are cheaper. If productivity is your main use, then I believe that Windows is way more superior, and aside from the Android games, it has all the media capabilities and more.
I noticed that there was some mention of writing on PDFs. In my experience, I haven't found very many apps that are smooth and good for taking notes on the Note. Windows has a few apps that can do this much better (Xodo Docs which is free and Drawboard which is 9.99). They offer a much smoother experience imo.

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If you can get it fixed, I would keep it. I'm in a somewhat similar situation, but my Note isn't broken. I've used this thing for over a year and loved it. A couple of weeks ago I bought a surface pro 3 and ever since then I haven't touched the Note.
If you can't keep it, I would suggest moving onto a Windows tablet/hybrid if you value productivity. Many people will probably disagree with this, but it depends on what you want to use it for. Yes the Surface is much more expensive than the Note, but there are alternative Windows hybrids that are cheaper. If productivity is your main use, then I believe that Windows is way more superior, and aside from the Android games, it has all the media capabilities and more.
I noticed that there was some mention of writing on PDFs. In my experience, I haven't found very many apps that are smooth and good for taking notes on the Note. Windows has a few apps that can do this much better (Xodo Docs which is free and Drawboard which is 9.99). They offer a much smoother experience imo.
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Totally agree with this. As far as productivity is concerned SP3>Note. Once Console OS is released...this thing will be a wet dream come true for me.

on day 5
I made the switch to the surface pro 3. Too soon to tell (sending this on my 10.1). Out of the gate was an issue with defective keyboard connection so had to return. Went to Microsoft store (did not buy from them) and customer service was incredible. Replaced tablet without question and went much further to make things right. I will give full review in few days after i get more acclimated

I'm on a note pro 12.2 and the surface pro 3 has me thinking about switching. OneNote on Android is horrible, but on a PC it's about the best program on the planet. I had no interest in the SP3, until I did three hours on lecture notes on OneNote for Android and went to paste a picture I thought was in the clipboard and instead a 5 page Word document was pasted over all my notes. Stupid Android version has no undo function. :facepalm:
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The thing is all those other comparable tablets are alot less mobile. More weight, more size, less battery.
I think the note 10.1-2014 is still the best device in its category. I'd love something better but for my needs there isn't. Maybe the first win10 tablet from MS will be the thing. Because samsung is just getting worse and worse..

wingdo said:
I'm on a note pro 12.2 and the surface pro 3 has me thinking about switching. OneNote on Android is horrible, but on a PC it's about the best program on the planet. I had no interest in the SP3, until I did three hours on lecture notes on OneNote for Android and went to paste a picture I thought was in the clipboard and instead a 5 page Word document was pasted over all my notes. Stupid Android version has no undo function. :facepalm:
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One note is probably the only thing tempting me to a windows tablet
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One note is probably the only thing tempting me to a windows tablet
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It's the only thing they have left to tempt me as well. Here's hoping that they do something with the Android client.

new tablets are coming

FWIW, on your next tab (whatever that is) think about getting an extended warranty from SquareTrade. I used to be pretty skeptical about extended warranties because of bad experiences, until I tried SquareTrade. Very good service, and the prices are reasonable. Now I buy on most big electronics purchases and have never been disappointed with the investment.