Hi everyone,
I'm considering getting a Verizon HTC one, but I have a question about warranty coverage after I unlock the bootloader. HTC's website says that "not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty." This would seem to imply that my warranty is still valid after I bootloader unlock the phone, just not for issues arising from the unlocked bootloader. Is this correct?
Thanks,
Zane
Well HTCDev bootloader unlock doesn't work for Verizon anymore...
Elysium1215 said:
Well HTCDev bootloader unlock doesn't work for Verizon anymore...
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won't it once the phone is s-off? Or do you not need htcdev at that point? I can't remember from my rezound.
nrfitchett4 said:
won't it once the phone is s-off? Or do you not need htcdev at that point? I can't remember from my rezound.
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depends on the exploit. With s-off (I know revone can do this) you can unlock through htcdev and also use revone to remove the tampered and relocked flags. So theoretically you can remove all the flags and s-on and not leave a shred of evidence.
123421342 said:
depends on the exploit. With s-off (I know revone can do this) you can unlock through htcdev and also use revone to remove the tampered and relocked flags. So theoretically you can remove all the flags and s-on and not leave a shred of evidence.
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Ooh neat. I'll have to look into that
123421342 said:
depends on the exploit. With s-off (I know revone can do this) you can unlock through htcdev and also use revone to remove the tampered and relocked flags. So theoretically you can remove all the flags and s-on and not leave a shred of evidence.
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RevOne unlocks your device you don't need to use HTC-Dev
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I have the Marvelc with Virgin Mobile US and I originally unlocked the bootloader using HTCDEV.com, however I later found the Goldcard S-OFF method.
Is there a way to relock it and regain my warranty? Will an unlocked bootloader and S-OFF cause any issues?
The HBOOT screen presently says:
***Unlocked***
MARVELC EVT1 SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT - 1.09.0000
MICROP - 0354
RADIO - 0.94.000824
Dec 21 2011, 12:14:03
kalaker said:
I have the Marvelc with Virgin Mobile US and I originally unlocked the bootloader using HTCDEV.com, however I later found the Goldcard S-OFF method.
Is there a way to relock it and regain my warranty? Will an unlocked bootloader and S-OFF cause any issues?
The HBOOT screen presently says:
***Unlocked***
MARVELC EVT1 SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT - 1.09.0000
MICROP - 0354
RADIO - 0.94.000824
Dec 21 2011, 12:14:03
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Yes you can relock it to ***LOCKED (OOW)**** which shows you that you have warranty. You should visit this thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1530864 and remember to thank theq86 for the nice tutorial and exploit
S-OFF, from what I know doesn't harm much unless you do something stupid with it. S-OFF basically unlocks the NAND to the point where we can read, write, and update it components.
An unlocked bootloader is a "partial" piece of an S-OFF from what I see. Most people like me would consider it "a piece of ****" because there's nothing much too it than we thought it would be. It's a good idea to keep the bootloader unlocked unless you going to take in the phone to HTC fith warranty.
MrTaco505 said:
An unlocked bootloader is a "partial" piece of an S-OFF from what I see. Most people like me would consider it "a piece of ****" because there's nothing much too it than we thought it would be. It's a good idea to keep the bootloader unlocked unless you going to take in the phone to HTC fith warranty.
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That's exactly how I felt about it. That's why I decided to go for the S-OFF once I found out that there was one. The unlocked bootloader really just was good for a root, but the fact I had to lose my warranty to do it didn't really make me too happy (although the warranty is a piece of junk anyway).
I used theq86's tool and it worked perfectly. Is "OOW" an acronym for anything or is it just there?
kalaker said:
I used theq86's tool and it worked perfectly. Is "OOW" an acronym for anything or is it just there?
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To tell the truth, i dont know, you can check the glossary thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508149 and maybe its there, remember to thank benjamingwynn for the nice glossary
EDIT: Also "OOW" means you have warranty, you should also try to downgrade your hboot if you willing to take it in to HTC for repair because they would like it if there was some extra crap in the phone
MrTaco505 said:
EDIT: Also "OOW" means you have warranty, you should also try to downgrade your hboot if you willing to take it in to HTC for repair because they would like it if there was some extra crap in the phone
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Alright. I was afraid it meant "Out of Warranty". Thank you! And a downgrade wouldn't be a bad idea. Do you know the stock HBOOT version?
What OOW really is is unknown. it could be Out Of Warranty, that's probable.
But after you downgraded to a lower rom the hboot is overwritten.
LOCKED OOW means basically, you never unlocked the phone
RELOCKED means it was once unlocked and relocked again.
my tool can recover the LOCKED OOW state. So if you have an downgraded bootloader htc can only find out that you unlocked the phone if they look for the identifier token that you sent to get the unlock token. if they don't do this the phone just looks normal.
theq86 said:
my tool can recover the LOCKED OOW state. So if you have an downgraded bootloader htc can only find out that you unlocked the phone if they look for the identifier token that you sent to get the unlock token. if they don't do this the phone just looks normal.
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Yes! Your tool worked absolutely perfectly for me. I restored it to the LOCKED (OOW) state, so it's good to know that it simply means it was never (or at least appears to have never been) unlocked.
And as for checking the token, that isn't really concrete proof you decided to follow through the rest of the way, and I doubt they would take the time anyway.
kalaker said:
Yes! Your tool worked absolutely perfectly for me. I restored it to the LOCKED (OOW) state, so it's good to know that it simply means it was never (or at least appears to have never been) unlocked.
And as for checking the token, that isn't really concrete proof you decided to follow through the rest of the way, and I doubt they would take the time anyway.
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Of course they're too lazy to go and search out of millions of wfs handsets for your one and only unlock token
EDIT: Also if you rooted and forgot to remove root before locking your bootloader, its a good chance that if you take in your wfs to HTC, they could find superuser installed and suggest that you were a rooted victim with an unlocked bootloader.
May I know if One X is able to be S-OFF, is it mean that even the bootloader status is locked and we still can root and flash custom rom? How it different with unlock bootloader using HTCDev? sry for noob question..
No you need to be unlocked to root and flash custom roms. As of now HTCDev is the only method to allow unlocking.
Simple method. We don't know when Revolutionary will release their tool.
S-ON + LOCKED = You can only use official HTC firmware and only for the specific branded version you have.
S-ON + UNLOCKED = You unlocked it via htcdev. You're able to change the system and recovery images to allow for custom firmware. You can't alter anything regarding the baseband aka cell radio. HTC know you unlock via htcdev as they make you enter your serial number and other details to generate a phone specific unlock token. This will affect your warranty as any software caused faults are your own problem. General hardware warranty is still the same.
S-ON + RELOCKED = You relocked it after unlocking via htcdev. Same as S-ON + LOCKED except it shows you relocked.
S-OFF = No restrictions at all by the bootloader. You can alter everything. HTC don't let you do this and you need somebody else to work out a flaw in the bootloader to do it. Technically this voids your warranty as well but if you relock and don't leave any evidence that you did so then HTC won't know.
ken-ywk said:
May I know if One X is able to be S-OFF, is it mean that even the bootloader status is locked and we still can root and flash custom rom? How it different with unlock bootloader using HTCDev? sry for noob question..
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No one knows about S-off.
It doesn't mean we can root and flash custom roms even on the locked bootloader. It was a different and unofficial way of unlocking the bootloader which can be locked again when we need.
We can do the same thing even in this HTC dev method, I mean locking the bootloader, but after that the status of the bootloader will be RELOCKED not locked. That means HTC people may know that our device is already unlocked before.
One more thing (which I heard and I am not sure), we can't flash ported roms on our device unless and until we have S-off.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
I had to turn s back on on my phone, but now i have three flags Tampered, Relocked, and Secruity warning, is there any way to get rid of the tampred and secruity warning and change the relocked back to locked?
Are you S-OFF if you aren't check if firewater it's compatible with your device and you can S OFF I don't suggest you do this if you don't have some experience with things like this..
Can I unlock bootloader and root and stuff using the AIO toolkit, then S-off from there?
nickrule1896 said:
Can I unlock bootloader and root and stuff using the AIO toolkit, then S-off from there?
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Yes you can but no guarantee that you can get s-off
So is it correct to say that if I S-off before doing any modding with the phone, s-off is guranteed? And will HTC check for S-off during warranty check?
nickrule1896 said:
So is it correct to say that if I S-off before doing any modding with the phone, s-off is guranteed? And will HTC check for S-off during warranty check?
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No its not guaranteed s-off depends on your phone international unlocked does not s- off and some others
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Are you S-OFF if you aren't check if firewater it's compatible with your device and you can S OFF I don't suggest you do this if you don't have some experience with things like this..
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I am S-off, had to go s-on because I need to send phone into htc
What does sunshine do that HTCDev doesn't do? I'm really very confused.
Sunshine S-off's your phone, as well as unlocking the bootloader. HTCdev unlocks your bootloader but leaves security/signing on (S-on) Also, the method Sunshine uses to unlock your bootloader doesn't trip a factory reset.
You don't typically need to turn security/signing off unless you want to change your CID/MID (to convert your handset to a different region) or go back to an older version of firmware/software.
AlecRobertson said:
What does sunshine do that HTCDev doesn't do? I'm really very confused.
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HTC dev only unlocks the boot loader, sunshine or firewater provides full s off which lifts restrictions to partitions that are normally locked down.
Check the below thread for explanations.
Thread updated
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2744194
Thank link is invalid.
Also, I have got s-off previously without using this?
AlecRobertson said:
Also, I have got s-off previously without using this?
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So in bootloader (or alternately, adb getvar all) it indicates s-off?
If so, and you didn't do firewater or sunshine, then its factory s-off. Its rare, but I've seen it here from time to time.
How do you do the above for warranty claim
I need to send the phone in for replacement / maintenance
it is unlocked US version running Verizon ROM on Verizon network
How do I unroot, lock the bootloader, and s-on?
I know they might not care, I still would like to restore everything to prevent any surprises or rejection
please list the steps. Thank you very much
ahgahg said:
How do you do the above for warranty claim
I need to send the phone in for replacement / maintenance
it is unlocked US version running Verizon ROM on Verizon network
How do I unroot, lock the bootloader, and s-on?
I know they might not care, I still would like to restore everything to prevent any surprises or rejection
please list the steps. Thank you very much
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First thing to do is backup everything from your phone to your PC. Then run a RUU ( I guess that would be US unlocked, not Verizon). After RUU is flashed, go to download mode and issue a command "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" (without quotes). That will restore your security flag back to s-on. Then use Sunshine to set bootloader status to LOCKED and s-off (really the easiest way to set it to LOCKED, not RELOCKED). Finally, run "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" once again, and done. You are 100% stock. It's much faster and simpler than it looks from my description.
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First thing to do is backup everything from your phone to your PC. Then run a RUU ( I guess that would be US unlocked, not Verizon). After RUU is flashed, go to download mode and issue a command "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" (without quotes). That will restore your security flag back to s-on. Then use Sunshine to set bootloader status to LOCKED and s-off (really the easiest way to set it to LOCKED, not RELOCKED). Finally, run "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" once again, and done. You are 100% stock. It's much faster and simpler than it looks from my description.
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Does this remove the red text on the start up screen? One look at that and HTC knows the phone has been altered. On Samsung devices once Knox is tripped you get a message saying so and it's permanent. Just curious.
comstockload said:
Does this remove the red text on the start up screen? One look at that and HTC knows the phone has been altered. On Samsung devices once Knox is tripped you get a message saying so and it's permanent. Just curious.
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Red text will be removed after you flash a RUU. HTC is much simpler than Samsung regarding that. Just to be on the safe side, check bootloader status after each step. It's a quick procedure, but you're safe
S-off should be ok just make sure its locked not unlocked.
https://www.xda-developers.com/htc-...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
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First thing to do is backup everything from your phone to your PC. Then run a RUU ( I guess that would be US unlocked, not Verizon). After RUU is flashed, go to download mode and issue a command "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" (without quotes). That will restore your security flag back to s-on. Then use Sunshine to set bootloader status to LOCKED and s-off (really the easiest way to set it to LOCKED, not RELOCKED). Finally, run "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" once again, and done. You are 100% stock. It's much faster and simpler than it looks from my description.
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Did all that (installing the RUU) and received only "re-locked" since it already was S-ON. Sunshine now cannot be used, because the RUU was installed. What did I do wrong, then?
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Did all that (installing the RUU) and received only "re-locked" since it already was S-ON. Sunshine now cannot be used, because the RUU was installed. What did I do wrong, then?
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You can use Sunshine. But, if I understood correctly, your phine was never s-off. If that's true, you need to unlock your bootloader again, use Sunshine to get s-off, and then follow my steps
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You can use Sunshine. But, if I understood correctly, your phine was never s-off. If that's true, you need to unlock your bootloader again, use Sunshine to get s-off, and then follow my steps
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I see, so the only way to have the phone LOCKED is to root it and use Sunshine?
Matt.Murdock said:
I see, so the only way to have the phone LOCKED is to root it and use Sunshine?
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Tecnicaly, you only need to unlock the bootloader and use Sunshine. No need to root, but, in general, the answer is yes
rooting without s-off
donkeykong1 said:
Tecnicaly, you only need to unlock the bootloader and use Sunshine. No need to root, but, in general, the answer is yes
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how do you even get a verizon htc 10 with oreo installed rooted in the first place if the HTCdev site is unable to unlock your bootloader, Sunshine is unable to unlock your bootloader or S-Off? There is nothing on the internet that has this "Solved" issue that I've read. However after reading your response, are you sure anyone can unlock bootloader and then use sunshine without root?
pearson_1974 said:
how do you even get a verizon htc 10 with oreo installed rooted in the first place if the HTCdev site is unable to unlock your bootloader, Sunshine is unable to unlock your bootloader or S-Off? There is nothing on the internet that has this "Solved" issue that I've read. However after reading your response, are you sure anyone can unlock bootloader and then use sunshine without root?
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If you read the first post, you will see that OP is running an US unlocked with Verizon ROM. In that case my steps are correct. If you have Verizon phone, you can't even unlock bootloader, so this is of no use for you
donkeykong1 said:
First thing to do is backup everything from your phone to your PC. Then run a RUU ( I guess that would be US unlocked, not Verizon). After RUU is flashed, go to download mode and issue a command "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" (without quotes). That will restore your security flag back to s-on. Then use Sunshine to set bootloader status to LOCKED and s-off (really the easiest way to set it to LOCKED, not RELOCKED). Finally, run "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" once again, and done. You are 100% stock. It's much faster and simpler than it looks from my description.
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Hi. Sunshine .Pay once Or pay every time you use.
osakajung said:
Hi. Sunshine .Pay once Or pay every time you use.
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Once
pearson_1974 said:
how do you even get a verizon htc 10 with oreo installed rooted in the first place if the HTCdev site is unable to unlock your bootloader, Sunshine is unable to unlock your bootloader or S-Off? There is nothing on the internet that has this "Solved" issue that I've read. However after reading your response, are you sure anyone can unlock bootloader and then use sunshine without root?
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Only way is to mail your phone to the sunshine team
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I pay on the first to s-off/unlock bootloader.
I flash other rom.
I set "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" to s-on.
I download Sunshine to set s-off/Lock bootloader is not pay?
osakajung said:
I pay on the first to s-off/unlock bootloader.
I flash other rom.
I set "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" to s-on.
I download Sunshine to set s-off/Lock bootloader is not pay?
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No. Once you pay for Sunshine, it's free for you to use as many times sa you need, as long as you don't change your motherboard
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No. Once you pay for Sunshine, it's free for you to use as many times sa you need, as long as you don't change your motherboard
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Thank you