[Q] S-OFF and Bootloader Unlocked - HTC Wildfire S

I have the Marvelc with Virgin Mobile US and I originally unlocked the bootloader using HTCDEV.com, however I later found the Goldcard S-OFF method.
Is there a way to relock it and regain my warranty? Will an unlocked bootloader and S-OFF cause any issues?
The HBOOT screen presently says:
***Unlocked***
MARVELC EVT1 SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT - 1.09.0000
MICROP - 0354
RADIO - 0.94.000824
Dec 21 2011, 12:14:03

kalaker said:
I have the Marvelc with Virgin Mobile US and I originally unlocked the bootloader using HTCDEV.com, however I later found the Goldcard S-OFF method.
Is there a way to relock it and regain my warranty? Will an unlocked bootloader and S-OFF cause any issues?
The HBOOT screen presently says:
***Unlocked***
MARVELC EVT1 SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT - 1.09.0000
MICROP - 0354
RADIO - 0.94.000824
Dec 21 2011, 12:14:03
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Yes you can relock it to ***LOCKED (OOW)**** which shows you that you have warranty. You should visit this thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1530864 and remember to thank theq86 for the nice tutorial and exploit
S-OFF, from what I know doesn't harm much unless you do something stupid with it. S-OFF basically unlocks the NAND to the point where we can read, write, and update it components.
An unlocked bootloader is a "partial" piece of an S-OFF from what I see. Most people like me would consider it "a piece of ****" because there's nothing much too it than we thought it would be. It's a good idea to keep the bootloader unlocked unless you going to take in the phone to HTC fith warranty.

MrTaco505 said:
An unlocked bootloader is a "partial" piece of an S-OFF from what I see. Most people like me would consider it "a piece of ****" because there's nothing much too it than we thought it would be. It's a good idea to keep the bootloader unlocked unless you going to take in the phone to HTC fith warranty.
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That's exactly how I felt about it. That's why I decided to go for the S-OFF once I found out that there was one. The unlocked bootloader really just was good for a root, but the fact I had to lose my warranty to do it didn't really make me too happy (although the warranty is a piece of junk anyway).
I used theq86's tool and it worked perfectly. Is "OOW" an acronym for anything or is it just there?

kalaker said:
I used theq86's tool and it worked perfectly. Is "OOW" an acronym for anything or is it just there?
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To tell the truth, i dont know, you can check the glossary thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508149 and maybe its there, remember to thank benjamingwynn for the nice glossary
EDIT: Also "OOW" means you have warranty, you should also try to downgrade your hboot if you willing to take it in to HTC for repair because they would like it if there was some extra crap in the phone

MrTaco505 said:
EDIT: Also "OOW" means you have warranty, you should also try to downgrade your hboot if you willing to take it in to HTC for repair because they would like it if there was some extra crap in the phone
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Alright. I was afraid it meant "Out of Warranty". Thank you! And a downgrade wouldn't be a bad idea. Do you know the stock HBOOT version?

What OOW really is is unknown. it could be Out Of Warranty, that's probable.
But after you downgraded to a lower rom the hboot is overwritten.
LOCKED OOW means basically, you never unlocked the phone
RELOCKED means it was once unlocked and relocked again.
my tool can recover the LOCKED OOW state. So if you have an downgraded bootloader htc can only find out that you unlocked the phone if they look for the identifier token that you sent to get the unlock token. if they don't do this the phone just looks normal.

theq86 said:
my tool can recover the LOCKED OOW state. So if you have an downgraded bootloader htc can only find out that you unlocked the phone if they look for the identifier token that you sent to get the unlock token. if they don't do this the phone just looks normal.
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Yes! Your tool worked absolutely perfectly for me. I restored it to the LOCKED (OOW) state, so it's good to know that it simply means it was never (or at least appears to have never been) unlocked.
And as for checking the token, that isn't really concrete proof you decided to follow through the rest of the way, and I doubt they would take the time anyway.

kalaker said:
Yes! Your tool worked absolutely perfectly for me. I restored it to the LOCKED (OOW) state, so it's good to know that it simply means it was never (or at least appears to have never been) unlocked.
And as for checking the token, that isn't really concrete proof you decided to follow through the rest of the way, and I doubt they would take the time anyway.
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Of course they're too lazy to go and search out of millions of wfs handsets for your one and only unlock token
EDIT: Also if you rooted and forgot to remove root before locking your bootloader, its a good chance that if you take in your wfs to HTC, they could find superuser installed and suggest that you were a rooted victim with an unlocked bootloader.

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[Q] HBOOT Downgrade

My HBOOT presently outputs:
*** LOCKED (OOW) ***
MARVELC EVT1 SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.09.0000
MICROP-0354
RADIO-09.00.0824
Dec 21 2011, 12:14:03
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I used the HTCDEV unlock to unlock until I found the GoldCard S-OFF method to S-OFF and S-OFF, as we all know > Unlocked bootloader. I used theq86's tool to relock to the original state.
My first question is: what does the "OOW" mean? I have that it means "Out of Warranty" and that it means absolutely nothing.
My second question is: can I downgrade to my original HBOOT? I do not the remember the version, but I'm sure someone out there knows.
My third question: if I downgrade HBOOT, will I lose S-OFF? It's no big deal if I do, I just want to have my GoldCard ready.
Fourth: If I downgrade to the original HBOOT will it still report "LOCKED (OOW)" or will it just say "LOCKED" and does that have any benefit over "LOCKED (OOW)" (I have heard that it does when sending the phone back to HTC.
I simply want my phone to look as stock as possible (with the exception of my ROM, which can easily be stocked) in case it needs to be sent to HTC.
kalaker said:
My HBOOT presently outputs:
I used the HTCDEV unlock to unlock until I found the GoldCard S-OFF method to S-OFF and S-OFF, as we all know > Unlocked bootloader. I used theq86's tool to relock to the original state.
My first question is: what does the "OOW" mean? I have that it means "Out of Warranty" and that it means absolutely nothing.
It is not confirmed, but it seems to be Out Of Warranty because if you flash this bootloader HTC will reject warranty
My second question is: can I downgrade to my original HBOOT? I do not the remember the version, but I'm sure someone out there knows.
Yes, you can. Use my tool again and choose the third option "superversion"
Afterwards flash a STOCK RUU and hboot will be downgraded as well.
My third question: if I downgrade HBOOT, will I lose S-OFF? It's no big deal if I do, I just want to have my GoldCard ready.
I don't know, but S-OFFing again is no problem if it really goes away.
Fourth: If I downgrade to the original HBOOT will it still report "LOCKED (OOW)" or will it just say "LOCKED" and does that have any benefit over "LOCKED (OOW)" (I have heard that it does when sending the phone back to HTC.
If you downgrade HBOOT it will neither show LOCKED, RELOCKED or UNLOCKED because the standard hboots do not check this.
I simply want my phone to look as stock as possible (with the exception of my ROM, which can easily be stocked) in case it needs to be sent to HTC.
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10 chars. my answers in red.
When you say to flash a stock RUU do you mean one of the ones from HTC Dev or elsewhere? Can you provide a link. If it would help, I have a marvelc with Virgin Mobile US.
In the dev section there is a thread where many many stock rom RUUs are. so take a look at there. it's one of the sticky posts.
To downgrade your bootloader, since your s-off just take the ruu with the bootloader of your choice. Extract the rom.zip. open it up and you will find a file called bootloader or hboot or something to that effect. Take that file and the android update.txt file. Zip them both up and rename it pg76img.zip
Put it in the root if your sdcard and boot into hboot. The phone will find the update and just flash it. Done
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Is there a specific ROM I should be running? Using simonsimon34's CM7 port and with my PC running Windows 8 Consumer Preview (with HTC Drivers) I am told that the RUU utility is unable to find the Android phone.
Do I need a ROM with HTC Sync?
Which method are you trying?
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I'm just trying to run the RUU.exe.
EDIT: I installed Vista and so far it appears to work. I'm going to wait until later to actually go all the way through. (I just went far enough for it to verify my "PDA phone".)
Might just have been your win 8 pal.
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[Q] Out of options, please help me (BL unlock problem)

Hi there!
Info about my wildfire s:
Virgin mobile Canada
Marvel PVT Ship S-On RL
Hboot-0.90.0000
Microp-0451
Radio-7.53.39.03M
Android 2.3.5
Guess that's the last resort before i totally give up on that phone.
Here's my situation:
can't seem to unlock my bootloader using Htcdev method whatsoever.
When i type fastboot oem get_identifier_token, i always get:
(Bootloader) [ERR] Command error !!!
From what i have heard and guessed, it means my Hboot is not up-to-date.
(I was stock 2.3.3 btw)
Tried to flash some roms from the "Shipped Marvel roms collection" thread, and i get all sort of errors during the update, basically that the rom is older than mine.
I then resorted to that thread:
"[HBOOT] HBOOT update for EU users who's having problem with RUU":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432474
It worked...except it only updated the radio, not the Hboot... for the hboot part is only says "bypass", and then offer me to reboot the phone.
I also created a goldcard at some point.
While i can see its virtues, It did absolutely nothing for me.
Of course, i've been reading a lot of threads with problems simillar to mine, but didn't get any working solution out of it.
Here i am, and i sincerely hope someone can help me, because it's one good little phone, i like it, but we all know a device you can't root is a device you can't do much with, sadly.
Thanks a lot for the help!
You have not updated your bootloader to either 1.08.0099 or 1.09.0099 which are HTCdev unlockable.
MrTaco505 said:
You have not updated your bootloader to either 1.08.0099 or 1.09.0099 which are HTCdev unlockable.
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I know that already.
My problem is exactly that: managing to update my hboot.
have you tried simons wildfire s utility v2 to do the BL-Unlocking? doesn't need htcdev i think...give it a try
Bangoo said:
I know that already.
My problem is exactly that: managing to update my hboot.
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have you tried to take the hboot from a htcdev ruu, making a pg**img.zip with it inside and an androidinfo.txt and boot to bootloader to see if it will update? i cannot see why it wont, it shouldnt affect your rom (which will be carrier related) and IS htc signed. you might just get away from with ^^ after that, if it works use simonsimons unlock tool
Thanks Gloris and Heavy_Metal_Man, i'll try both, see how it turns out and report the results.
Didn't work.
To hell with this phone, i've been wasting to much time on this, that's the first time i have so much trouble unlocking/rooting a phone.
I'm done with HTC i believe, that locked bootloader really is a cheap shot from them.
Anyway, thanks a lot for the help, guys.

HTCDev Unlock & Warranty

Hi everyone,
I'm considering getting a Verizon HTC one, but I have a question about warranty coverage after I unlock the bootloader. HTC's website says that "not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty." This would seem to imply that my warranty is still valid after I bootloader unlock the phone, just not for issues arising from the unlocked bootloader. Is this correct?
Thanks,
Zane
Well HTCDev bootloader unlock doesn't work for Verizon anymore...
Elysium1215 said:
Well HTCDev bootloader unlock doesn't work for Verizon anymore...
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won't it once the phone is s-off? Or do you not need htcdev at that point? I can't remember from my rezound.
nrfitchett4 said:
won't it once the phone is s-off? Or do you not need htcdev at that point? I can't remember from my rezound.
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depends on the exploit. With s-off (I know revone can do this) you can unlock through htcdev and also use revone to remove the tampered and relocked flags. So theoretically you can remove all the flags and s-on and not leave a shred of evidence.
123421342 said:
depends on the exploit. With s-off (I know revone can do this) you can unlock through htcdev and also use revone to remove the tampered and relocked flags. So theoretically you can remove all the flags and s-on and not leave a shred of evidence.
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Ooh neat. I'll have to look into that
123421342 said:
depends on the exploit. With s-off (I know revone can do this) you can unlock through htcdev and also use revone to remove the tampered and relocked flags. So theoretically you can remove all the flags and s-on and not leave a shred of evidence.
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RevOne unlocks your device you don't need to use HTC-Dev

how do i get rid of the tampered and secruity warning flags

I had to turn s back on on my phone, but now i have three flags Tampered, Relocked, and Secruity warning, is there any way to get rid of the tampred and secruity warning and change the relocked back to locked?
Are you S-OFF if you aren't check if firewater it's compatible with your device and you can S OFF I don't suggest you do this if you don't have some experience with things like this..
Can I unlock bootloader and root and stuff using the AIO toolkit, then S-off from there?
nickrule1896 said:
Can I unlock bootloader and root and stuff using the AIO toolkit, then S-off from there?
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Yes you can but no guarantee that you can get s-off
So is it correct to say that if I S-off before doing any modding with the phone, s-off is guranteed? And will HTC check for S-off during warranty check?
nickrule1896 said:
So is it correct to say that if I S-off before doing any modding with the phone, s-off is guranteed? And will HTC check for S-off during warranty check?
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No its not guaranteed s-off depends on your phone international unlocked does not s- off and some others
maxrdlf95 said:
Are you S-OFF if you aren't check if firewater it's compatible with your device and you can S OFF I don't suggest you do this if you don't have some experience with things like this..
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I am S-off, had to go s-on because I need to send phone into htc

Sunshine says I'm already s-off, Boot loader says locked.

I'm not sure what I flashed to cause this issue. I used sunshine months back and acquired s-off and unlocked bootloader. Now when I go to bootloader, it says locked and s-on. I ran sunshine again and it told me I was already s-off, and there was nothing to do. How do I get things back to saying s-off and unlocked?? Is there a tool to flash and toggle?? I was going to use my unlock key from HTC dev, but I don't want to wipe all my data. What is the best solution??
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rwagner74 said:
I'm not sure what I flashed to cause this issue. I used sunshine months back and acquired s-off and unlocked bootloader. Now when I go to bootloader, it says locked and s-on. I ran sunshine again and it told me I was already s-off, and there was nothing to do. How do I get things back to saying s-off and unlocked?? Is there a tool to flash and toggle?? I was going to use my unlock key from HTC dev, but I don't want to wipe all my data. What is the best solution??
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I have no solution for you, and I doubt anyone here will. Post your problem on the Sunshine S-Off thread. You will probably find some help there.
Copy and paste what you posted here in the reply I am quoting. Also state that you started a thread and you are sorry for cross posting, but that is what was advised. Good luck! I hope you get your stuff fixed up right.
maybe you have custom bootloader with faked S-ON and faked LOCKED message?

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