[Q] Does Rooting Cause Sane Chip - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

After rooting my Samsung Note2, and after 10 month from purchasing, I started to notice that its auto reboot.
I took it to the samsung shop, and they told me I have to replace the motherboard.
But because my note note2 was rooted, I had to pay QAR 1000.00 for the new motherboard.
After investigating I red about something called sane chip, which happens to some samsung devices with no reason, and I used a tool from the market called EMMC check, and it found a sane chip in my note2.
my questions are :
1- Does rooting cause this sane chip??
2- How may I get my warranty back after i root my device?

Yes, maybe not.

Last Samsung device i used was a s2 and 3, are you able to use the device at all? Does it power on like normal?
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dj2muchxx said:
Last sanding device i used was a s2 and 3, are you able to use the device at all? Does it power on like normal?
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Actually it looks so normal, but when i open any application, it stuck, and auto reboot.
I paid for a new motherboard and now it's ok, I just wanted to share what happened, and to know if i should root it again or not.

xinc.sgt said:
Actually it looks so normal, but when i open any application, it stuck, and auto reboot.
I paid for a new motherboard and now it's ok, I just wanted to share what happened, and to know if i should root it again or not.
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Sane Chip is an updated version of the MMC chip fitted to the motherboard. - The original Chip had a flaw and failure caused Sudden Death Syndrome (SDS). Newer versions of the chip fix the problem.
If you have the insane chip, then sooner or later the phone will die.
Rooting makes no difference to the hardware components at all.

What do you advice me to do?
Bulbous said:
Sane Chip is an updated version of the MMC chip fitted to the motherboard. - The original Chip had a flaw and failure caused Sudden Death Syndrome (SDS). Newer versions of the chip fix the problem.
If you have the insane chip, then sooner or later the phone will die.
Rooting makes no difference to the hardware components at all.
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Sooner or later my phone will die, is there any solution or anything i should do to it.
i think i have this sane chip even after i had the motherboard replaced.

xinc.sgt said:
Sooner or later my phone will die, is there any solution or anything i should do to it.
i think i have this sane chip even after i had the motherboard replaced.
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SDS related problem was found in 4.1.1 roms. It was sortout in latest 4.1.2 roms. So if you want to root phone, update to 4.1.2 rom and then root.
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My firmware was 4.1.2 when SDS happened.
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xinc.sgt said:
Sooner or later my phone will die, is there any solution or anything i should do to it.
i think i have this sane chip even after i had the motherboard replaced.
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You seem a bit confused about this chip.
Version 1 of the chip has the bug and can get SDS. it's known as the insane (crazy) chip.
Later versions (mine says 0xf7) DO NOT have the bug and DO NOT suffer from SDS. This is known as the sane (not cfazy) chip.
If you have 0xf7 then don't worry
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Help, bricked phone after flashing rom rebooting

the phone is bricked and nothing happen, no download mode, no clockwod mod and cannot detect by the computer.
What can I do? it becomes like that when after flashing the custom rom. Is there any force re-flashing program for me? I will be find till I can get to the clockwod mod.
Plz Help!!!! thx a lot
What file did you flash? Post a link to it.
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What file did you flash? Post a link to it.
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Android Revolution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797334
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Android Revolution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797334
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That is an international 19300 s3 rom. Only flash roms made for the t mobile sgh-t999. There are many methods for download mode. Try pulling the battery and then hold volume down and home and power while putting battery back into phone. Then put back cover on and then plug into computer and see if Odin recognizes it even if it does not show the download mode screen. If that does not work you could buy a download mode jig. But, unfortunately, it is known that flashing international s3 roms on a US variant results in an unrecoverable brick due to the rom flashing in the wrong mount points. So consider doing a replacement.
I know the feeling, I hard bricked my last phone and had to get it replaced.
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David1239 said:
That is an international 19300 s3 rom. Only flash roms made for the t mobile sgh-t999. There are many methods for download mode. Try pulling the battery and then hold volume down and home and power while putting battery back into phone. Then put back cover on and then plug into computer and see if Odin recognizes it even if it does not show the download mode screen. If that does not work you could buy a download mode jig. But, unfortunately, it is known that flashing international s3 roms on a US variant results in an unrecoverable brick due to the rom flashing in the wrong mount points. So consider doing a replacement.
I know the feeling, I hard bricked my last phone and had to get it replaced.
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Is it possible for me to take it back to tmoile to fix it? =[
Is there a way that use the window cmd.exe to rewrite the android system to the phone?
I tired it before for my phone before, but i forgot the way that I'd done last time.
Yes. I just bricked mine 3 days ago. Took it to t mobile and told them that it would not turn on. If it is not in your 14 day grace period they will have one shipped to your house. Free. And even next day air.
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michaeldotson817 said:
Yes. I just bricked mine 3 days ago. Took it to t mobile and told them that it would not turn on. If it is not in your 14 day grace period they will have one shipped to your house. Free. And even next day air.
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Really? Great, I bought it yesterday
The wait sucks, but time never slows down. When the replacement comes you don't have to baby it. Just flash anything that looks safe in these forums and you'll be fine. Definitely back up your imei though.
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alexlai2412 said:
Really? Great, I bought it yesterday
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So you got it replaced in the store for free with the 14 day grace period right?
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These threads make me sad. People brick their devices because they didn't do their research and flash the wrong ROM, and T-Mobile ends up being taken advantage of and replacing these devices. SMH.
Send it for a jtag fix... 50 bucks at least you learn some responsibilities in the way.
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-jtag-brick-repair/
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alexlai2412 said:
Is there a way that use the window cmd.exe to rewrite the android system to the phone?
I tired it before for my phone before, but i forgot the way that I'd done last time.
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NO, NO, and NO, go to device manager, I bet there is a device that says QLOAD**, if it is there, BRICKED. You will not recover without a JTAG service. If you CAN NOT get to download mode, there is NO fix. You can continue to look for a solution that does not exist, or get it over with, either exchange it with T-Mobile (good luck), or bite the bullet with the problem YOU CREATED, and pay 60.00 of the jtag service.
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chrisram88 said:
Send it for a jtag fix... 50 bucks at least you learn some responsibilities in the way.
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-jtag-brick-repair/
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good answer.
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adslee said:
These threads make me sad. People brick their devices because they didn't do their research and flash the wrong ROM, and T-Mobile ends up being taken advantage of and replacing these devices. SMH.
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I agree, I bricked my phone day 1 hr 2, CAUSE, I DID NOT READ. But I DID NOT once, even think of T-Mobile and a return, I bricked it, I paid for the service. The return service is for real problems, NOT for people who abuse the system with sh** like this. My opinion.
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So you got it replaced in the store for free with the 14 day grace period right?
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yes

Galaxy note 2 brick bug

Hi, I've read numerous posts relating to brick bug for SGS3 and other phones. Do we know if our beloved SGN2 phones are affected? I checked my phone with eMMC check and it does appear as if its using the same affected memory controller and it looks like it does, so are we next in line for this issue hats affecting the SGSIII and other phones?
Few minutes before I saw this post, I installed a application called "eMMC check" form play store and for the result i got "No san chip". Can anyone who is aware of this problem tell me what does that really mean. Does that mean having No san chip causes the brick, or having the san chip causes the brick or this application is to fool guys like us who is too much worry about this problem.
This app is for an older phone with brick bug. This is of no use for galaxy s3 or note 2. You will get the correct info about your hardware but brick status is of no use to you.
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By the way "no. sane chip" means the phone does not have brick bug hardware. It is good. But as I said it is of no use.
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I get the same message on my ohone (thats its sane) but after reading online I do have the ill chip.
My phone is ith custom FW and I dont want it to die suddenly. Its got 2 years warranty and it will be sad to loose it because of a stupid bug and not get it repaired.
I might go back to stock abd reset the counter to 0 and wait and see how thos develope later.
K.
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So that means i am safe right. I get No San chip
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Not to worry, it seems like someone has fixed the brick bug. Go to the link below to read more about SDS fix :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927852
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yeh its kind of worrying if the S3 has the issue, since Note2 shares so much of its little brother, perhaps Samsung should get on top of this before it starts to impact peoples phones. Since the Note2 isnt that old, its possible will start to see this issue in the not to distant future. Is SAMSUNG not good in the flash memory market anymore?

Where is my N2 from?

I haven't been able to solve this on my own.
I can't determine the country or region where my N2 was sold into.
Don't post imei.
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very helpful
And why would that be? The phone is bricked from SSDS.
UtkarshGupta said:
Don't post imei.
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doschico said:
And why would that be? The phone is bricked from SSDS.
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Because it can be copied to a stolen phone
Sent from the mighty Note II.
Issuer: BABT (British Approvals Board of Telecommunications) - so I'm guessing UK. And yes, remove it ASAP from OP.
My phone is made in Korea and assembled in Vietnam ,it clearly says that under the battery.Anyway,what version of android where you running?And do you had the faulty chip FwRev 0xf1?When do you bought it?This are important questions ,we need to know when sds is more likely to appear

Possible sds

Hello
5 month Note 2 user that had almost no complaints till early april where my phone started lagging, restarting every few hours(it did restart once every 2-3 days since they day i bought it) and touch screen not being responsive. Result was the problem becoming worse and me having to search for it and finding out about SDS. I checked my phone through EMMC and it says my chip is insane... as soon as I saw that I tried backing everything up but as it turned out, it was too late..I've lost all my game data (I've managed to copy a few games but its a few stages back..for example my subway surfers save is like 2-3 months back...), i've lost ALL of my contacts and my smscontact backup says it has no contacts on the backupfile...
regardless, I sent it to the local Samsung retail and they kept it for a week, got it back today, same thing happening...They told me they found humidity + errors on my phone and they had to clear/wipe it out completely. Its been like 3-4 hours since i got it and it already got stuck at a black home screen error + unable to swap applications and once on a non-responsive touch screen. I contacted the Samsung retailer and he told me that it could be an error from my SD card. I highly doubt that, am using a san disk 32gb ultra speed and I only have movies on it actually so...
Now my 'questions'...What can I do? Rooting it can fix it? Or will it void my warranty completely? If I root and it breaks again can I unroot and send it to have it fixed? And if they cant fix it, do they replace my phone with another one? Like a new note 2 or a new samsung phone?
Thanks
Ps: already posted this on sprint forums by mistake and it was suggested to me to try removing my sd card..no difference
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well it is what people say "symptoms of the sudden death" so probably and all says that( 5 months, strange behaviour. .) if they dont fix you can talk to them that probably it is SDS if not you'll have to wait until the phone dies or send lots of times (like a guy who said that here in xda) and they probably replace the motherboard. theres nothing at the moment to do if it have been affected by the corrupted data but you can update to the latest firmware which is suposed to have the fix
hope I answered your question
Bests
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aka_sirok said:
well it is what people say "symptoms of the sudden death" so probably and all says that( 5 months, strange behaviour. .) if they dont fix you can talk to them that probably it is SDS if not you'll have to wait until the phone dies or send lots of times (like a guy who said that here in xda) and they probably replace the motherboard. theres nothing at the moment to do if it have been affected by the corrupted data but you can update to the latest firmware which is suposed to have the fix
hope I answered your question
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Was the 5 months too late for it to take effect?i already called them and they told me that they know nothing about the SDS.. they said they can only change my phones internal/motherboard (as they said "just the plaque not ur device"
Latest update is 4.1.2? Thats what i have.. they gave me the option of buying another phone..should i? Am afraid of getting another sds affected note
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Shei77 said:
Was the 5 months too late for it to take effect?i already called them and they told me that they know nothing about the SDS.. they said they can only change my phones internal/motherboard (as they said "just the plaque not ur device"
Latest update is 4.1.2? Thats what i have.. they gave me the option of buying another phone..should i? Am afraid of getting another sds affected note
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well the problem is that if the phone send some corrupted data to the chip when you were at 4.1.1 there's nothing to do.
The repair centre "doesn't know about it" because if they do know they'll have to asume that problem and they will lose money. The correct procediment is to change de motherboard however sometimes they just put an old one with the insane chip again. If you really want this phone and I assume that you do like it, when they replace and send it back update to 4.1.2 ASAP therefore they usually update before sending back.
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They are already losing money when they fix my phone cause of full warranty.. i loved the phone but am disappointed right now and with the possibility of changing phones i dont mind..cause all in all it has its downsides..ie too big to carry, takes a looong time to charge and regardless ive already lost all my data so its already like i got a new phone..
How can i know if they changed my motherboard?
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You should have a new imei if they changed mb i think.
I bought note because of the screen,dont mind using it with both hands thats the price you have to pay if you want that commodity of big display.
And its charging like every phone,maybe a little longer but instead you have great battery life.
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ChobbyNS said:
You should have a new imei if they changed mb i think.
I bought note because of the screen,dont mind using it with both hands thats the price you have to pay if you want that commodity of big display.
And its charging like every phone,maybe a little longer but instead you have great battery life.
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How can i test if my imei is a new one and not from a previous user?
I did buy it too but any below 1.5A charger charges too slowly..and the size does matter for me cause am currently serving the army and its harder for me to handle...
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I use original charger at home and 2.1a car charger and it charges really fast.
You should maybe check out xperia z,it has ip57 certificate,it is lot tougher than note and a bit smaller.
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ChobbyNS said:
I use original charger at home and 2.1a car charger and it charges really fast.
You should maybe check out xperia z,it has ip57 certificate,it is lot tougher than note and a bit smaller.
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Cant find any good charger really..and car charging is not an option where i am...
Ive been thinking between one x+ or iphone5 to be honest but priority is trying to fix my note
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aka_sirok said:
well the problem is that if the phone send some corrupted data to the chip when you were at 4.1.1 there's nothing to do.
The repair centre "doesn't know about it" because if they do know they'll have to asume that problem and they will lose money. The correct procediment is to change de motherboard however sometimes they just put an old one with the insane chip again. If you really want this phone and I assume that you do like it, when they replace and send it back update to 4.1.2 ASAP therefore they usually update before sending back.
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Nobody loses money but Samsung. Your local samsung service center is not Samsung company. They are third companies that have an agreement with Samsung to fix samsung phones officially in your country.
They lose money only if they replace a motherboard that is already working or not covered under warranty (user faults).
Once I talked(personally) to one of Samsung services in my country, they said mostly they are not able to understand these new generation smartphones. Most of the time all they do is just replacing motherboards, they said
My suggestion to you, print several sudden death syndrome reported web pages and show them or email them if you can. Samsung is replacing bricked motherboards with no question asked (even rooted ones).
Media volume bar is disabled now...
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I find it very strange, especially since these issues do not seem related to eMMC commands. Did you ever try using the phone without the sd card to eliminate the possibility?
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Used it for a day and a half..it did had its reboots aswell...
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Shei77 said:
Used it for a day and a half..it did had its reboots aswell...
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Have you ever tried a factory reset and use it as stock as possible for a while?
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Have you ever tried a factory reset and use it as stock as possible for a while?
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I did actually when i got the phone from the retailer..it took 35minutes..
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Shei77 said:
I did actually when i got the phone from the retailer..it took 35minutes..
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That was your first bad sign :S
You're out of luck. Send it to a repair center asap.
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That was your first bad sign :S
You're out of luck. Send it to a repair center asap.
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Well not much i could do...shop had already closed
I will send it but what can i claim? New phone? New chip?
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CUSTOM BINARY DOWNLOAD: NO, do I still have my warranty?

Long story short my phone is hard bricked (I think that is what its called). I can go into recovery mode (Home+Down+Power) and then when I press up it says:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME:
CUSTOM BINARY DOWNLOAD: NO
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Custom
Pretty must im wondering since it says NO do I still have my warranty with Sprint (US)?
A hard brick implies your device doesn't even power on. Seeing as it does, I'd wager dollars to doughnuts that it is a soft-brick and recoverable by you. What symptoms make you think you have a brick?
I'm trying to put a stock recovery on the phone and when I use Odin it keeps saying it needs a pit. When I tried three different pits that I found none of them worked.
It's SDS, don't do anything and send to service station. Yes your score is fine to claim warranty. Just ask them, it was very fine till end of day, when you see after woke up, device never turned on. You don't know anything about flashing.
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A hard brick implies your device doesn't even power on.
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It can.
I have seen lots case of hard brick (sds) having accessible download mode, sometimes even recovery too.
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dr.ketan said:
It's SDS, don't do anything and send to service station. Yes your score is fine to claim warranty. Just ask them, it was very fine till end of day, when you see after woke up, device never turned on. You don't know anything about flashing.
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It can.
I have seen lots case of hard brick (sds) having accessible download mode, sometimes even recovery too.
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so you are saying even if download mode is accessible...with SDS we cannot repair the phone ourselves by flashing a stock ROM using Odin???
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SDS is hard brick. It needs motherboard replacement.
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Ok, I was under the impression that SDS caused the phone to never turn on again, thus the name: Sudden Death Syndrome... not ever being affected by it, I had no idea that wasn't the case.
For future reference, what information in this thread tells you this is SDS?
what about yellow triangle
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It's SDS, don't do anything and send to service station. Yes your score is fine to claim warranty. Just ask them, it was very fine till end of day, when you see after woke up, device never turned on. You don't know anything about flashing.
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It can.
I have seen lots case of hard brick (sds) having accessible download mode, sometimes even recovery too.
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Please help, I just have 2 weeks left for warranty.... I have the following
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME:
CUSTOM BINARY DOWNLOAD: NO
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Custom
and The Yellow triangle while entering the download mode!!!
should I take it for warranty or should I corrupt the boot loader as mentioned in this !! (search this on youtube Samsung and the eMMC Data Corruption Bug), i am not able to put links!!
which will not let them know if there was ever a triangle as phone will not boot at all!!!
Thanks!!
You can send to service station, your warranty Is intact
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Just in case anyone was wondering I took my phone to sprint and they were like "omg the motherboard just fried" and then they gave me a new one immediately and I did not have to pay anything.
I had a similar report when my N2 died of SDS. I received a message back from the Samsung service point here that my warranty was void because of the fact that the last line indicated a modified phone.
They agreed that SDS was acknowledged by Samsung on the S3 but not on the N2. I have filed a complaint against the decision and had to go to Samsung directly myself to have the warranty void decision overruled. Eventually Samsung agreed on a warranty repair though they made it sound as it was just because they did me a big favour, and not as it was a company all-customer-wide decision. This process took me nearly 2 months!
After I received my phone back, it was working again, though it did not register on the network. Somehow it lost its IMEI. I could have sent it back to the service point but as I didn't want to lose my phone again for a long time, I restored an EFS backup I still had. That fixed my problem!
A few days after getting my phone back, I read on a local tech site that Samsung has loosened they strictness on similar repairs so hopefully others suffering from sds benefit!
I checked my chip before and after the repair. Before I had a bad chip. After the fix the tool reported that the new chip was sane, thank god...
Now my next dilemma..... Get the Note3? ..
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