So, since Sonic has this javacard that is able to get s-off for us on the HTC One, is anyone still looking at getting bootloader unlock / root / s-off in any other fashion? Or has this line of thinking been dropped all together? As in devs thinking it's not possible? Just curious as I would really like to get it done, but can't, because of my job, be without my phone. If it all comes to that, I will figure a way to get my phone to him. I have not pledged anything as of yet as I was waiting to find out what was going to happen.
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a dev just got enough donations to get the htc one and is going to work on a software exploit. Apparently the new hboot (1.54?) is so far locked down across carriers/ countries so hopefully, there will be plenty of devs working on this in the future.
Though I probably will get impatient and mail mine off in a week...
I personally don't think anyone would start working on this until the 4.3 update is out. With a new update, there could be a new hboot and different exploits.
I am a pretty new dev but I have not abandoned finding an exploit. Be patient, we will find one eventually.
I was just concerned that it had kinda fallen to the wayside since there is currently another way to get s-off. I hadn't seen anything in the last few days about finding a software exploit and it got me thinking about it. I never made a pledge in that thread due to that line of thinking. Figured if someone gets us root / unlocked I would send to them directly.
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Inane65 said:
I was just concerned that it had kinda fallen to the wayside since there is currently another way to get s-off. I hadn't seen anything in the last few days about finding a software exploit and it got me thinking about it. I never made a pledge in that thread due to that line of thinking. Figured if someone gets us root / unlocked I would send to them directly.
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This is true, but the bounty still re-mains for whomever cracks the code.
If you pledged and then did S-OFF with Sonic, your pledge still counts, and I feel most members will honor their word.
So one would hope anyway.
Just because none is posting about their progress doesn't mean it isn't being attended to. There is a lot of talent poking at it. It'll happen.
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Just because none is posting about their progress doesn't mean it isn't being attended to. There is a lot of talent poking at it. It'll happen.
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very true, take a look at older devices for example, some took up to 6 months..
you can send the phone to sonic or play the waiting game.
I am sending to Sonic personally. Got a nice box with some good bubble wrap and feel comfortable enough that it will hopefully not get lost and or stolen.
no risk no reward.
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very true, take a look at older devices for example, some took up to 6 months..
you can send the phone to sonic or play the waiting game.
I am sending to Sonic personally. Got a nice box with some good bubble wrap and feel comfortable enough that it will hopefully not get lost and or stolen.
no risk no reward.
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I was heartbroken to send my new toy out so soon but it will be back today!
Probably worth it in the end.
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I was heartbroken to send my new toy out so soon but it will be back today!
Probably worth it in the end.
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I think it will be, I am a bit weary sending my $600 phone without insurance from NY to CO, but still worth it for me.
(does the $15 include the $600 insurance for the phone when he ships it back? or if it's lost or stolen on way back to you, what happens?)
I was hoping I could get my phone out today, but it looks like business calls again and can't be without it.
I am HTC Dev unlocked so I am not in NEED necessarily of S-OFF, just would like to have it to poke around.
I am going to lay low let those who really need it, the ones who got stuck not being able to do HTC Dev, then if credits are still there I will send it out. No need for me to be greedy and use a credit when it's not needed, yet anyway, I really want S-OFF, but I think others deserve it first since I am already rooted.
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I think it will be, I am a bit weary sending my $600 phone without insurance from NY to CO, but still worth it for me.
(does the $15 include the $600 insurance for the phone when he ships it back? or if it's lost or stolen on way back to you, what happens?)
I was hoping I could get my phone out today, but it looks like business calls again and can't be without it.
I am HTC Dev unlocked so I am not in NEED necessarily of S-OFF, just would like to have it to poke around.
I am going to lay low let those who really need it, the ones who got stuck not being able to do HTC Dev, then if credits are still there I will send it out. No need for me to be greedy and use a credit when it's not needed, yet anyway, I really want S-OFF, but I think others deserve it first since I am already rooted.
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Insurance is included on the way back. I shipped mine for $16, 2-day shipping with insurance.
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Insurance is included on the way back. I shipped mine for $16, 2-day shipping with insurance.
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how much insurance did you put on the phone, also how does it work do you need a receipt to prove that the item is worth that much, do you just pay for insurance, also how much insurance did you get for the $16?
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how much insurance did you put on the phone, also how does it work do you need a receipt to prove that the item is worth that much, do you just pay for insurance, also how much insurance did you get for the $16?
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Got $650 of insurance for like $6.75.
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I have a feeling that a lot of people will be receiving XTC clips soon. Would any of you be feeling so kind as to share them with other XDA members? Personally I would be willing to pay the shipping both ways (I'm in San Diego), for my credit if it's a pay as you go model, and whatever reasonable fee on top of that you feel like charging. This might be a good way to make back some of the money you sank on the clip, and for me it's probably faster than waiting for a clip to get here from Europe or China.
Please reply here or PM me if interested
i'd be willing to. just have to wait for it to get here, hopefully next week.
Cool, thanks, I'll probably take you up on that unless someone offers one up sooner than that. PM me when you get it to sort out payment details.
Not trying to mooch or anything... But I'd be willing to pay as well if anybody's up for it.
Looks like this thread wont be needed anymore.. and of course my purchase is totally useless. I didn't even get it yet. Just my luck.
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Looks like this thread wont be needed anymore.. and of course my purchase is totally useless. I didn't even get it yet. Just my luck.
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I feel your pain, but I knew this was going to happen as I ordered. My clip has been in customs for 2 days now.
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Ok so I flashed a ROM for an International Galaxy S3 and I have a Sprint Galaxy S3.
The ROMs I found all being on the same forum really messed with my head...
But it will not do anything. The screen is black. If i plug it in nothing happens. If i press buttons nothing happens.
If I take it to Sprint do you think they will be able to get it to work again?
They won't be able to check if i am rooted since it doesnt show anything...
I already looked at the whole JTAG REPAIRs everywhere and I dont want to pay 60$ to fix my phone if Sprint can do it for free
Also I dont want to buy a USB JIG either.
I got this phone couple months back by the way
Sprint won't do it for Free if you are out of warranty. Maybe $35 with luck, $150 if you have TEP.
But you can try... Play the "it just stop working" game.
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Sprint won't do it for Free if you are out of warranty. Maybe $35 with luck, $150 if you have TEP.
But you can try... Play the "it just stop working" game.
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Yeah cuz fraud is awesome when you act irresponsibly....:victory:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156714
So then what do you suppose I do?
I could also say," oh I was watching a video on YouTube on how to restore my phone to like make it fresh new; and when I went to recovery mode or something, I guess I made a wrong turn and ended up here "
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So then what do you suppose I do?
I could also say," oh I was watching a video on YouTube on how to restore my phone to like make it fresh new; and when I went to recovery mode or something, I guess I made a wrong turn and ended up here "
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The primary option you're looking for is a JTAG repair.
I believe you can purchase the materials yourself to do it, but if I've read correctly, you'd most likely have to solder stuff to other stuff (technical answer, I know!).
If you don't mind paying someone to repair it, you might want to try out Mobile Tech Videos. I haven't used their services personally and their website looks a bit on the low-budget end of the spectrum, but other XDA members have gone to them and they gave them a positive review.
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The primary option you're looking for is a JTAG repair.
I believe you can purchase the materials yourself to do it, but if I've read correctly, you'd most likely have to solder stuff to other stuff (technical answer, I know!).
If you don't mind paying someone to repair it, you might want to try out Mobile Tech Videos. I haven't used their services personally and their website looks a bit on the low-budget end of the spectrum, but other XDA members have gone to them and they gave them a positive review.
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I did check out their website before but I was just wondering if sprint would do it for less to nothing $
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I did check out their website before but I was just wondering if sprint would do it for less to nothing $
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I'm gonna stick with what The Root said, and say the following:
You done messed up, son. You flashed a ROM knowing full well that there was a chance it'd brick your phone. Now it's bricked because you didn't read all the information available to you. To expect Sprint to pay for your mistake is, if I may be frank, irresponsible. I know $60 may be a lot to some people, but you were messing around with a $500 piece of technology. But I'd say it'd be much better to take this situation as a learning experience, and in the future you'll never brick your phone again because you'll make sure to do 3 or 4 google searches and really do your due diligence before flashing something on your phone.
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I'm gonna stick with what The Root said, and say the following:
You done messed up, son. You flashed a ROM knowing full well that there was a chance it'd brick your phone. Now it's bricked because you didn't read all the information available to you. To expect Sprint to pay for your mistake is, if I may be frank, irresponsible. I know $60 may be a lot to some people, but you were messing around with a $500 piece of technology. But I'd say it'd be much better to take this situation as a learning experience, and in the future you'll never brick your phone again because you'll make sure to do 3 or 4 google searches and really do your due diligence before flashing something on your phone.
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For what it's worth, I just paid the $150 TEP on my phone because I was trying to upgrade my TWRP to 2.4.2.0 and something happened that caused me to brick my phone. I know lots of people have said 'Oh, just go in and they'll do a factory replacement' but honestly you can get a phone the next day if you pay the fee.
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For what it's worth, I just paid the $150 TEP on my phone because I was trying to upgrade my TWRP to 2.4.2.0 and something happened that caused me to brick my phone. I know lots of people have said 'Oh, just go in and they'll do a factory replacement' but honestly you can get a phone the next day if you pay the fee.
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Yes, but that's a bit different than "wondering if sprint would do it for less to nothing $"
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Yes, but that's a bit different than "wondering if sprint would do it for less to nothing $"
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That's my point.........just accept that you screwed up and pay the consequences of your actions.
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For what it's worth, I just paid the $150 TEP on my phone because I was trying to upgrade my TWRP to 2.4.2.0 and something happened that caused me to brick my phone. I know lots of people have said 'Oh, just go in and they'll do a factory replacement' but honestly you can get a phone the next day if you pay the fee.
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Wait what you are saying is I can just take it into the sprint store and I'll get a new phone the next day? Yes I know it is really irresponsible but like other people I have seen, we got confused with how the rooms are placed on the threads I am not saying that I will just give sprint my phone and make them suffer for my mistakes, but I was just asking
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Wait what you are saying is I can just take it into the sprint store and I'll get a new phone the next day? Yes I know it is really irresponsible but like other people I have seen, we got confused with how the rooms are placed on the threads I am not saying that I will just give sprint my phone and make them suffer for my mistakes, but I was just asking
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What I was saying is that if you file a replacement claim with Assurion, then they'll overnight you a phone.
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Wait what you are saying is I can just take it into the sprint store and I'll get a new phone the next day? Yes I know it is really irresponsible but like other people I have seen, we got confused with how the rooms are placed on the threads I am not saying that I will just give sprint my phone and make them suffer for my mistakes, but I was just asking
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It depends. Do you pay the monthly TEP fee for your phone? If you're enrolled in the program (and pay the monthly fee), you can walk into a store and (for most situations) get a new (or most-likely refurbished) phone the same or next day (for the low, low cost of the $150 deductible). Typically no questions asked.
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It depends. Do you pay the monthly TEP fee for your phone? If you're enrolled in the program (and pay the monthly fee), you can walk into a store and (for most situations) get a new (or most-likely refurbished) phone the same or next day (for the low, low cost of the $150 deductible). Typically no questions asked.
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They can't give you a new one, they can only send you the 'certified replacements'......it has to do with agreements they have with Samsung. You can get a swapped brand spanking new one provided you are within the 14 day post purchase window.
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They can't give you a new one, they can only send you the 'certified replacements'......it has to do with agreements they have with Samsung. You can get a swapped brand spanking new one provided you are within the 14 day post purchase window.
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Ah, I stand corrected. Also, I just remembered that you don't have to go into the store, just file a claim online.
I have only used the TEP once (for my old EVO 4G). Do you have to return the old phone?
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Ah, I stand corrected. Also, I just remembered that you don't have to go into the store, just file a claim online.
I have only used the TEP once (for my old EVO 4G). Do you have to return the old phone?
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Yeah....but when they ship you the replacement phone, they also ship you the pre-paid envelope to ship back the defective device.
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Ok so I flashed a ROM for an International Galaxy S3 and I have a Sprint Galaxy S3.
The ROMs I found all being on the same forum really messed with my head...
But it will not do anything. The screen is black. If i plug it in nothing happens. If i press buttons nothing happens.
If I take it to Sprint do you think they will be able to get it to work again?
They won't be able to check if i am rooted since it doesnt show anything...
I already looked at the whole JTAG REPAIRs everywhere and I dont want to pay 60$ to fix my phone if Sprint can do it for free
Also I dont want to buy a USB JIG either.
I got this phone couple months back by the way
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Play dumb and pay the deductible.
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DraggyWan said:
Play dumb and pay the deductible.
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You mean to go to the store and just pretend I don't know what happened? How much would the deductible be? I do not have TEP... If it is more than 60$ then might as well get it repaired in that one JTAG REPAIR website
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You mean to go to the store and just pretend I don't know what happened? How much would the deductible be? I do not have TEP... If it is more than 60$ then might as well get it repaired in that one JTAG REPAIR website
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They're not going to be able to fix it. JTAG might be your best option.
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You mean to go to the store and just pretend I don't know what happened? How much would the deductible be? I do not have TEP... If it is more than 60$ then might as well get it repaired in that one JTAG REPAIR website
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If you dont have TEP then the best option is the JTAG repair
I recently found someone who can S-OFF my VZW One for 60$ or so. Only problem is they have to open my phone and according to the email I got, there will be "signs of light scratches" on the aluminum due to how easy it is to scratch and "signs of entry" due to prying.
Should I bother sending my phone in and get it back scuffed up or just wait for a software based S-OFF?
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I recently found someone who can S-OFF my VZW One for 60$ or so. Only problem is they have to open my phone and according to the email I got, there will be "signs of light scratches" on the aluminum due to how easy it is to scratch and "signs of entry" due to prying.
Should I bother sending my phone in and get it back scuffed up or just wait for a software based S-OFF?
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sounds like they have to take the phone apart to get go some things.
(based upon S-OFF method on the Rezound using a paper clip_
but that had a removable battery. so idk man
I would do this if S-OFF doesn't come in like 4-6 months
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I recently found someone who can S-OFF my VZW One for 60$ or so. Only problem is they have to open my phone and according to the email I got, there will be "signs of light scratches" on the aluminum due to how easy it is to scratch and "signs of entry" due to prying.
Should I bother sending my phone in and get it back scuffed up or just wait for a software based S-OFF?
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I think what you should do is borrow the $60 from a friend and if you don'd like the job the guy did, or you don't like the phone itself, sell it with the S-OFF and pay your friend back and make a profit. That's what a friend of mine said he might do wile we were discussing this situation in a Skype call.
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I think what you should do is borrow the $60 from a friend and if you don'd like the job the guy did, or you don't like the phone itself, sell it with the S-OFF and pay your friend back and make a profit. That's what a friend of mine said he might do wile we were discussing this situation in a Skype call.
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Lol Ryan
Anyway, he's had the phone for a bit you know, he likes it enough. What he's mainly concerned about is physical damage or paying and then having a free software tool released a week later.
I'm still thinking it's better to wait since you want a stock room anyway, and you know you can wait and save money, too.
Besides, the One is a great phone stock, anyway.
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Lol Ryan
Anyway, he's had the phone for a bit you know, he likes it enough. What he's mainly concerned about is physical damage or paying and then having a free software tool released a week later.
I'm still thinking it's better to wait since you want a stock room anyway, and you know you can wait and save money, too.
Besides, the One is a great phone stock, anyway.
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Only question is "when". Not even the S4 has an unlocked bootloader and that's been out for a while :/.
I was hoping that root bounty thread would at least bring a out of it but that died out quick.
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Only question is "when". Not even the S4 has an unlocked bootloader and that's been out for a while :/.
I was hoping that root bounty thread would at least bring a out of it but that died out quick.
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The only thing is you have to think: is this really important to me? Will I ever regret this? The bloatware seems to be under control for the most part and the rooted apps you could get aren't life changing. To be honest, rooting is pretty lame. It's exciting until you do it. It's neat and all but I don't think it's worth $60...buyers remorse always sucks more than Verizon's ROM.
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I recently found someone who can S-OFF my VZW One for 60$ or so. Only problem is they have to open my phone and according to the email I got, there will be "signs of light scratches" on the aluminum due to how easy it is to scratch and "signs of entry" due to prying.
Should I bother sending my phone in and get it back scuffed up or just wait for a software based S-OFF?
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I don't think I would believe this person unless they were a close personal friend of yours.
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Sonic2756 said:
I recently found someone who can S-OFF my VZW One for 60$ or so. Only problem is they have to open my phone and according to the email I got, there will be "signs of light scratches" on the aluminum due to how easy it is to scratch and "signs of entry" due to prying.
Should I bother sending my phone in and get it back scuffed up or just wait for a software based S-OFF?
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Its called Jtagging and is not new. Basically they are taking the phone apart, and reflashing it. Totally possible. Problem here is the htc one is notoriously hard to take apart without damage, expect damage to the device if you go this route.
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Its called Jtagging and is not new. Basically they are taking the phone apart, and reflashing it. Totally possible. Problem here is the htc one is notoriously hard to take apart without damage, expect damage to the device if you go this route.
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Haha, I saw this. The review from iFixIt or whatever its called where they tear down the phone piece by piece and rate by repairability. It rated, on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being easy to repair.....drumroll.........a 1, lol. Because of how hard it is to disassemble. Apparently HTC has this sucker bonded together quite well.
In any event, you have a HUGE factor to consider here with the jtagging. As much as I'm a proponent of s-off, it only benefits you if its a public s-off method that everyone has (being developers). Say you send in your phone, get s-off, then what? Nobody else is even unlocked, except very few of us. Its the same instance as we're in right now, a couple of us have unlocked devices, but there's only 2/3 devs, and only a handful of people who can use the roms. Snail racing, lolz.
Honestly, I'd wait till s-off becomes public through an exploit or something, otherwise you have nothing.
There's also the JavaCard S-Off exploit which has been mentioned a few times on the One forums. Haven't heard from anyone who has actually done it though, so not much else I can say on it.
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There's also the JavaCard S-Off exploit which has been mentioned a few times on the One forums. Haven't heard from anyone who has actually done it though, so not much else I can say on it.
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Actually just talked with some friends and we might be getting a java card with 250 or so uses in the next 2 weeks or something. Apparently it works on any 1.54 HTC phone so I'm assuming the VZW One is included .
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There's also the JavaCard S-Off exploit which has been mentioned a few times on the One forums. Haven't heard from anyone who has actually done it though, so not much else I can say on it.
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Is this like the new-age xtc clip?
Speaking of, whatever happened to that thing. I still have one laying around but I haven't seen any new development in a long time.
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Actually just talked with some friends and we might be getting a java card with 250 or so uses in the next 2 weeks or something. Apparently it works on any 1.54 HTC phone so I'm assuming the VZW One is included .
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If this ever happens, let me know. I will gladly pay you for service
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If this ever happens, let me know. I will gladly pay you for service
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Ordering one later tonight. If it works on my one I'll probably do a $15-20 mail me your phone I mail it back type deal. Will provide proof once I get it and test it etc.
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Ordering one later tonight. If it works on my one I'll probably do a $15-20 mail me your phone I mail it back type deal. Will provide proof once I get it and test it etc.
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Awesome!
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Actually just talked with some friends and we might be getting a java card with 250 or so uses in the next 2 weeks or something. Apparently it works on any 1.54 HTC phone so I'm assuming the VZW One is included .
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can I claim one of these 250 spots?
andybones said:
can I claim one of these 250 spots?
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Sure. I just got proof that everything is legit and it should be here on tuesday!
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Sure. I just got proof that everything is legit and it should be here on tuesday!
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What state are you in? If semi local I'd pay for the service and go to you.
I would in fact most likely buy one myself if you can direct me to this card.
Couldn't this theoretically mean a dev could run code through the SIM slot if it were programmed with the HTCDev unlock bin? I assume there must be a way for a user to program their own SIM code and unlock/S-off that way and revert back to signed code after the process. (I'm thinking in flow charts as I have yet to do any more than minor app development on Android, just trying to help)
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What state are you in? If semi local I'd pay for the service and go to you.
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Colorado
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Colorado
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Mail it is, though I am still reluctant knowing so few have the exploit so it's not like many developers have eyes on ROMs atm.
It's been a month, and having no further evidence that a software exploit for permanent root/unlocked bootloader is near being released, I'm dumping my HTC One. Hate to have to leave HTC, but with carrier restrictions and not having the ability to customize my device without sending it 2000 miles away, I'm not going to sit on this phone and watch it die for 6 months, then be stuck with it.
I've debated back and forth, and refuse to send my device out to get S-off. I don't think many developers are going to be interested enough to buy the device if they don't already have it knowing this is the only option of doing so. But I do thank Sonic for helping a lot of us out.
Thanks for the help most of you have given me, good luck, and hopefully an exploit comes out by Friday morning.
Have fun. Good luck
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Best you stick with nexus and dev devices if you care so deeply about rooting your phone. No ones going to stop you from leaving but just know all of us will still be enjoying the beautiful hardware of the HTC one
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It's been a month, and having no further evidence that a software exploit for permanent root/unlocked bootloader is near being released, I'm dumping my HTC One. Hate to have to leave HTC, but with carrier restrictions and not having the ability to customize my device without sending it 2000 miles away, I'm not going to sit on this phone and watch it die for 6 months, then be stuck with it.
I've debated back and forth, and refuse to send my device out to get S-off. I don't think many developers are going to be interested enough to buy the device if they don't already have it knowing this is the only option of doing so. But I do thank Sonic for helping a lot of us out.
Thanks for the help most of you have given me, good luck, and hopefully an exploit comes out by Friday morning.
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... Wow... Your own fault... And you had to make this posy because.... Man whatever... People never get smarter...
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Meh, not sure how much I respect the "look at me" post, but as a person who just switched from a Verizon Gnex to this phone today, the post really needed to be made because it does reflect on more peoples opinion than just his
i guess if you can't take the stock, keep out of the non nexus'....OK that was bad
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Meh, not sure how much I respect the "look at me" post, but as a person who just switched from a Verizon Gnex to this phone today, the post really needed to be made because it does reflect on more peoples opinion than just his
i guess if you can't take the stock, keep out of the non nexus'....OK that was bad
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Yea pretty much follow the golden rule. If you aren't fine running stock don't buy it... Unless its a nexus then you get cake.
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I would like to think that your life would be much better if you didn't get so upset about somebody else's choice.
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I would like to think that your life would be much better if you didn't get so upset about somebody else's choice.
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Just jumped ship for the same reason s4 rooted here I come will miss Zoe :silly:
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I would like to think that your life would be much better if you didn't get so upset about somebody else's choice.
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Or someone posting something for drama lol.
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After being a crack flahser for 2 years, I decided that I was spending 6-8 hours per week flashing ROM's. Why, because I could. Other than the few customizations I did, my primary use for an unlocked and rooted phone was to use Google Wallet. Since my new CC offers me an NFC card, I don't even need Wallet. That said, I purchased the One as I wanted a FAST phone without having to tweak it and spend hours unlocking and swapping ROMS.
Point being, the ONE may not be the phone for you if you want to unlock it and customize it further. This is one of those things that you should have been aware of when you purchased it. If knowing there was no exploit availble, and you purchased it with the hopes that there would be, that was your mistake and I agree, you should get rid of it. NEVER purchase a device that has not already been exploited if you like to flash ROMS.
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After being a crack flahser for 2 years, I decided that I was spending 6-8 hours per week flashing ROM's. Why, because I could. Other than the few customizations I did, my primary use for an unlocked and rooted phone was to use Google Wallet. Since my new CC offers me an NFC card, I don't even need Wallet. That said, I purchased the One as I wanted a FAST phone without having to tweak it and spend hours unlocking and swapping ROMS.
Point being, the ONE may not be the phone for you if you want to unlock it and customize it further. This is one of those things that you should have been aware of when you purchased it. If knowing there was no exploit availble, and you purchased it with the hopes that there would be, that was your mistake and I agree, you should get rid of it. NEVER purchase a device that has not already been exploited if you like to flash ROMS.
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AMEN.
Some of the great phones of the past took months to unlock, and the people who waited ended up with awesome
Phones. Anyone who thought this vzw phone would be rooted in a few weeks isn't real bright.
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For all of you that are dumping your Ones for something else BYE . But Im almost possitive there is an exploit for this device and it will not be released untill the 4.3 update rolls out so that it dont get patched , thas my two cents . If after the release there is no exploit , I will then send my SEXY Blue BEAST out to Sonic and let him sprinkle some magic on it , and then we will have Tranquil on our Ones.
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After being a crack flahser for 2 years, I decided that I was spending 6-8 hours per week flashing ROM's. Why, because I could. Other than the few customizations I did, my primary use for an unlocked and rooted phone was to use Google Wallet. Since my new CC offers me an NFC card, I don't even need Wallet. That said, I purchased the One as I wanted a FAST phone without having to tweak it and spend hours unlocking and swapping ROMS.
Point being, the ONE may not be the phone for you if you want to unlock it and customize it further. This is one of those things that you should have been aware of when you purchased it. If knowing there was no exploit availble, and you purchased it with the hopes that there would be, that was your mistake and I agree, you should get rid of it. NEVER purchase a device that has not already been exploited if you like to flash ROMS.
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This. The only things that bother me with sense is the cluttered status bar, the wifi persistent notification, and few other other things.
I just picked up my One last night, having been swayed by the irresistible Best Buy price this week. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt, which was my first Android phone and one on which I had a lot of fun learning to root and ROM. I did that to my heart's content on that phone.
Having said that, I came over to this device because, well, yeah, the price... but also because it's such a massive hardware upgrade over the Tbolt. I moved over to this phone with my eyes wide open. I know there's no exploit at present for the One, and I accept that there may never be one. I'm not crazy about Sense, so one of the first things I did was to run Nova Launcher. Bye bye Blinkfeed, etc. I'll be fine running this phone stock unless and until.
I agree with the general consensus here: don't get a phone you won't be happy with stock.
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I just picked up my One last night, having been swayed by the irresistible Best Buy price this week. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt, which was my first Android phone and one on which I had a lot of fun learning to root and ROM. I did that to my heart's content on that phone.
Having said that, I came over to this device because, well, yeah, the price... but also because it's such a massive hardware upgrade over the Tbolt. I moved over to this phone with my eyes wide open. I know there's no exploit at present for the One, and I accept that there may never be one. I'm not crazy about Sense, so one of the first things I did was to run Nova Launcher. Bye bye Blinkfeed, etc. I'll be fine running this phone stock unless and until.
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Congrats on the major hardware upgrade I had the Thunderbolt for a little while, wasn't a big fan, then got the Rezound. Loved the Rezound. But yes, the HTC One is an amazing device, even stock. I also didn't like blinkfeed, so I am, too, using the Nova launcher.
To the OP, thanks for stopping by, good luck with you future devices. I'll hold out for a hopefull exploit after 4.3 is released, and like others have said, if that doesn't turn out, hopefully I can send my phone to Sonic to get s-off.
Should never buy a phone with the expectation that it will be unlocked. Especially in such a short time frame.
I don't think it was necessary to make a post about getting rid of your phone, but to each their own.
I hope you find the phone that works for you. Just don't buy a phone you aren't happy with out of the box. Sounds like you should either buy a nexus phone, a dev edition phone, or wait and buy a phone that the community has already exploited.
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I think I agree with most people when I say this, I didn't buy the One for it's root or ROM capabilities I bought it because the phone is awesome. I personally think HTC did a great job with Sense 5, before I used this I was on the Thunderbolt and it was still a good phone I'm glad u went with HTC. The only reason I care for root now is adblock and uninstalling Verizon's apps.
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Thank you .............................
Still have confidence in XDA Dev's
I can sorta see both sides of this. To me the HTC one is the best phone I have owned BY FAR! S4 was great phone but I like the build, screen, and speaker quality of this one better.
I get the "Don't by the phone if you aren't happy running stock" line of thinking. However, I buy these phones with full confidence that XDA developers will find an exploit within a reasonably short time. Every phone I have owned way back to the Driod X were rootable within a short time. Am I wrong for thinking that?
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I get the "Don't by the phone if you aren't happy running stock" line of thinking. However, I buy these phones with full confidence that XDA developers will find an exploit within a reasonably short time. Every phone I have owned way back to the Driod X were rootable within a short time. Am I wrong for thinking that?
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I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong for thinking anything. You would be wrong, however, in buying a phone with expectations that devs would root the phone and then throw a fit if they don't. If you think they owe you something - I'm not saying you do - or if you think you deserve their efforts on your phone of choice then you would be wrong in that.
The advice to buy a phone you love AS-IS is great advice because if you don't get what you're hoping for, you're still good with your choice.
Is it wrong to hope the devs get you squared away quick? No. Is it wrong to demand it of them? Yes.
Hey guys, first. Thank you for visiting the post and bring a little valuable knowledge.
I have a HTC ONE M7 VERIZON - currently ROOT with WeakSauce2
There is a way to get free S-OFF - other than SUNSHINE ...
android version 4.4.3 - attached screenshot so you can see the version of software.
Not possible in the current version, there is a way back to the factory system?
Thank You.
Only way to downgrade is to have s-off. For version 5.28.605.2 the only way to get unlocked and s-off is Sunshine, or pay for someone with a java card to s-off.
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s off
Oh my god
I want s-off freeeeeee
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Oh my god
I want s-off freeeeeee
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And I want a free car, neither one is gonna happen. [emoji5]
It is a bit ridiculous that they're taking advantage of the situation though. Verizon shouldn't be allowed to lock phones down so thoroughly that a phone model that specifically is supposed to be supported by the company's own official "developer program" is actually locked out as it is. These people are taking advantage of the fact that Verizon has done this to make quite a lot of cash. And if you have to get a different phone or something, you can't just "uninstall Sunshine" or something and reuse it. Nope. You get to buy it again. They don't even license it to one person, it's only licensed to one specific device. Simply put, they're taking advantage of everyone and getting away with it to make quite a lot of money on the process and everyone seems to be ok with that.
Now don't get me wrong here. I am not saying they shouldn't be allowed to make money. I'm sure they did a decent amount of work to find and utilize the new exploit(s) they are using and not sharing. To some extent, yeah, they should get money. Though I'm not convinced that donations alone wouldn't have been quite sufficient to more than cover their time and efforts with some small profit along the way (there are a lot of M7 users stuck with Verizon after all plus there can be advantages to Sunshine even when not on Verizon) I'll allow that they've a right to ask for money for this is general. My problem is the fact that they do that one device only for $25. That's a lot of money to run an exploit on a device one time and never again. A one user license for $25 would be a lot more fair and reasonable at least, but really I can't see why it shouldn't be more on the order of $5 or so anyway. Heck, let's say $10. But $25? They have us backed in a corner and they know it.
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It is a bit ridiculous that they're taking advantage of the situation though. Verizon shouldn't be allowed to lock phones down so thoroughly that a phone model that specifically is supposed to be supported by the company's own official "developer program" is actually locked out as it is. These people are taking advantage of the fact that Verizon has done this to make quite a lot of cash. And if you have to get a different phone or something, you can't just "uninstall Sunshine" or something and reuse it. Nope. You get to buy it again. They don't even license it to one person, it's only licensed to one specific device. Simply put, they're taking advantage of everyone and getting away with it to make quite a lot of money on the process and everyone seems to be ok with that.
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But wait - - someone did a sh--load of work at the risk of nice phones to create an optional work-around to allow tinkerers to play with their phones.
Why shouldn't the guys who figured out what we can't figure out be paid ??????????
I tried to get you preemptively on that. Read my edit. Sorry, it took a bit before I realized someone was going to think I was saying they shouldn't get paid at all. Simply put, I'm not against them profiting at all. I'm against the way they're taking advantage of people. I do stick to my statement that donations alone would have been sufficient though. There are a lot of people who would have been really grateful for the exploits if posted and would have donated if they asked nicely (and maybe even if they didn't ask...)
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I tried to get you preemptively on that. Read my edit. Sorry, it took a bit before I realized someone was going to think I was saying they shouldn't get paid at all. Simply put, I'm not against them profiting at all. I'm against the way they're taking advantage of people. I do stick to my statement that donations alone would have been sufficient though. There are a lot of people who would have been really grateful for the exploits if posted and would have donated if they asked nicely (and maybe even if they didn't ask...)
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"These people" don't give a crap about what you or what Verizon does.
There is no HTC or dev program that allows you to s-off your device.
Nobody is taking advantage of you, they are offering you a service.
Either accept their service and pay what they ask for it, or don't.
But please stop this self entitled attitude that gets us nowhere and causes the few exploits and devs that make them to disappear completely.
Don't like it? Buy yourself a Java card for a few hundred bucks, or an iPhone.
If folks like these guys didn't go through burning up devices for our benefit, you would have zero options.
If they depend on the general public to be generous with donations, when giving it away for free, they would be sadly disappointed, trust me on this one...it happens a lot less then you might imagine.
People nowadays are far too content to take whatever they can and if nobody makes them give back, they won't think twice about it.
So, I really suggest ending this now, as this won't end well for you and certainly won't change anything for the better.
Only effect it could possibly have is to jeopardize your xda membership, reputation, and potentially drive away the people who worked so hard on your only real available option for s-off.
See, this is what I don't get. People will defend this sort of thing fighting tooth and nail for them even to the point of flaming and insulting others. It's silly. Ultimately things like this being locked behind a pay wall hurts the community as a whole.
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"These people" don't give a crap about what you or what Verizon does.
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Uhm... What?
There is no HTC or dev program that allows you to s-off your device.
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I'm guessing you misunderstood what I was saying? I'm specifically referring to the official HTC developer program by which one can enter and get an unlock token to officially unlock their HTC devices: http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Verizon is the only one that chooses to disallow its users from doing this and I'm only saying that this creates the situation being discussed. If, for example, there were no service in which one could not unlock their device via the official program and the only point of Sunshine was to avoid going through all that and to make it possible to effectively warranty voiding checks, then that alone might be a valid reason for it to cost. (And I personally am ok with going through the official HTC program and losing warranty officially. That was never the issue for me.)
Nobody is taking advantage of you, they are offering you a service.
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I think you didn't really understand what I was saying. Basically Verizon has created a situation where people have no choice but to use exploits when they shouldn't have to. This, in itself, is already a not OK situation, but there's not much we can do about it short of using a different service (and some of us need various things like a particular plan/area/whatever.) The people behind Sunshine found a new exploit that works on the latest stuff (and claim it's hardware and unpatchable.) Great. But, they don't release it to the public. They keep it locked away behind a pay wall (and I'm sure the exact workings of it are encrypted and etc so people can't just reverse engineer the software easily or something.) Not just a pay wall though. They charge quite a lot for a single device. Then they don't let a user use what they paid for again ever. Nope. You get to unlock one device and that's it. Hence "taking advantage." They know we're backed up against the wall.
Either except their service and pay what they ask for it, or don't.
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Exactly. They know you have no choice. Your argument for them is actually against them.
But please stop this self entitled attitude that gets us nowhere and causes the few exploits and devs that make them to disappear completely.
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Who said self-entitled? I didn't say they owe it to me or something. I said this is ultimately bad for the community and the community shouldn't be happy with it and that they shouldn't charge so much for it or limit it so much. This is more a business discussion if anything. They don't owe it to me or anything, but they are still taking advantage of the situation. Essentially, it's extortion.
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Uhm... What?
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These people are taking advantage of the fact that Verizon has done this to make quite a lot of cash.
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They don't owe it to me or anything
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Oh good, then you do understand.... :good:
Good luck to you.
Before this exploit, there was firewater, moonshine, rumrunner for certain aged HTC devices, two worked on this phone. These were made by the same team that did Sunshine. They never got the income back via donations to pay for the countless bricked phones getting the exploit to work (yes, this type of exploit permanently damaged their test phones at $700 a pop.) This is why they had to resort to charging since the donations didn't make the lost money back.
Before the exploits worked on our phones, we HAD to pool money together and have a trusted member keep the java card, and pay him shipping and a fragment of the cost of the card. He made no money off this service either.
Do not sully and degrade and berate the payment wall. You bought a Verizon phone. A carrier who HATES their "customers" rooting their phones. Call Verizon support and say your phone is rooted and see their response. If you wanted an HTC phone that does work with htcdev, buy a different variant, or get the last Verizon model that did work, the Rezound.
Sunshine was made with the idea to s-off already rooted phones, unlocking Verizon variants is a side effect they don't put on the priority list. If it happens, it happens.
Edit: quick math for you. Let's say they had 20 failed attempts... For ONE device, if all 20 bricked the phone, that is $14000 $25 is reasonable given how many devices it works for and how much was spent to get it to work.
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Well I never heard any dev that locked their phones on failed attempts to find exploits. Doesn't that one dev that does the exploits work for HTC or Verizon and his job is to find these exploits? I guess I see nothing wrong with charging to get your phone unlocked and rooted. Maybe the price be a little less but I doubt he made a lot of money unlocking peoples phones. If you don't want to pay for having your phone unlocked then look at getting s nexus 6 off T-Mobile. Everything works on Verizon's network and you never have to worry about having a locked boot loader.
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Well I never heard any dev that locked their phones on failed attempts to find exploits. Doesn't that one dev that does the exploits work for HTC or Verizon and his job is to find these exploits? I guess I see nothing wrong with charging to get your phone unlocked and rooted. Maybe the price be a little less but I doubt he made a lot of money unlocking peoples phones. If you don't want to pay for having your phone unlocked then look at getting s nexus 6 off T-Mobile. Everything works on Verizon's network and you never have to worry about having a locked boot loader.
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No, beaups nor jacase work for Verizon. They frequent the blackhat convention. Most exploits they do they either sell to the bug bounty or give to the community depending on certain factors. They are not on either company's payroll.
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I could swear jcase worked for HTC from one of his older posts form years ago. Oh well guess I was wrong. Just glad I rooted my phone when I first got it before everyone had to start paying!
Dark Jedi said:
I could swear jcase worked for HTC from one of his older posts form years ago. Oh well guess I was wrong. Just glad I rooted my phone when I first got it before everyone had to start paying!
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Nope lol