Develop Bugs

WMA Tag Issue with 2.2

We know this is a problem since 2.2
The Desire can't read the Artist tag in WMA files. To me this is a big deal.
Converting to MP3 is not an option because:
1. I have over 24,000 files
2. A lot of my files are in WMA lossless format and there is no MP3 equivilant
3. When using the same bandwidth settings (say 192kbp/s), MP3 offers inferior sound quality.
So I have raised a ticket to HTC, sent them a file etc and have not had the following reponse:
Thanks. We have experienced the same issue as you. This has been escalated with HTC. However in the meantime you can get around the problem by converting your music files into MP3 format
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So at least the fault is acknowledged so all I can do now is wait

I used mp3 tag to convert the WMA tags to ID3 version 1 and it worked for me. It does it automatically so will soon take care of all your songs.
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aindow said:
I used mp3 tag to convert the WMA tags to ID3 version 1 and it worked for me. It does it automatically so will soon take care of all your songs.
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Thanks for this.
Can't actually see the tag to tag option in the latest downloadable version (even though the instructions talk about it) for some reason.
Having said that, I would rather not downgrade my files metadata if I can avoid it.
Lets see if we get a fix.

I hope we get a fix too but in the mean time ill just have to copy the files I want on my phone and change the tags manually :-S
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it doesn't work with wma..
i am using mp3tag v2.46a, then remove tag, add tag, then save
but it still show "unknown artist" in desire music player..
did i miss anything ? tq

[Q] HTC Music Player doesn't do well with WMA files after Android 2.2 update

Hello everyone,
I have an issue that is driving me CRAZY, and I hope some of you are having the same issue...or at least suggestions for how to fix it. I am running the new Android 2.2 update on my Evo. (It's just the normal, plain software from Sprint/HTC...nothing custom, none of that root stuff...just regular).
I always keep a few gigabytes of music (in WMA format) on my SD card. I noticed that after the update, the HTC Music player would no longer recognize (and sort) the music by Artist or Composer. The only things it could identify about each file were the Title, Album, and Genre. I miss the option of browsing through my music by Artist and/or Composer. This was not a problem with Android 2.1, but it is now. I even tried deleting all the music from my SD card and re-syncing it from my PC...same result. I also tried music from a different PC...same result.
So here's what I discovered this morning: If I convert my WMA files to MP3s, then the music player works just as before!! It recognizes all the ID3 tags within each file. This is a big problem for me. First of all, my music library is nearly 40 GB in size, and I do not want to have to convert EVERYTHING to MP3 before I sync. This is tedious and unnecessary. Secondly, the original specs/documentation of the HTC Evo state that it supports the WMA file format. I made sure of that before purchasing, because it was one of the big factors for me in making the decision to switch to Sprint and the Evo.
Does anyone have any suggestions for how to solve this problem? I'm about to call HTC now and complain. Thanks.

Why are you so attached to WMA? IME/IMHO it's not a very good format because the quality of the mp3 format is a little better plus the DRM that gets embeded in the tracks. Every track that I have *ahem* acquired or even recorded myself has time bombed on me at some point. I should be able to play the music I record at any time!
/Rant
Don't take what I said too personally. I'm just pissed off at Microsoft. That said, I do not know what is causing your files not be played back properly as I do not have any to test.

Just a guess but, perhaps the new player in froyo doesn't read id3 tags from wma files correctly.
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Well, that wasn't the purpose of this post, but since you asked...
I've been ripping my CDs to my hard drive for about 10 years now. Windows Media Player made it sooo easy to organize my music library. Way back in the day, you could only rip to WAV or different varieties of WMA. To rip to mp3, I would have had to use a different program, or purchase a plug-in for Windows Media Player. Only in the last few versions has Windows Media Player had the "rip to mp3" option built-in for free.
When I originally started my collection, I read about the differences between WMA and mp3. I got the understanding that the two formats essentially offered the same quality and features, but WMA generally used about half the file size for the same bitrate. So I chose WMA and stuck with it all this time.
Even when I buy music from Amazon or iTunes, I've gotten in the habit of converting it to WMA...just for consistency.
I just got off the phone with HTC, who says they haven't heard of this issue before. I was advised to perform a factory reset. But if I can't resolve the issue soon, I'm considering just converting every piece of music I have to mp3. (Sigh). But at nearly 40 GB, and various bitrates, who knows how long that could take!? (Sighing again). I wonder what program could handle that amount of music all at once. And I pray it won't screw up all the ID3 tags and the ratings I've so carefully given.
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I have a couple of WMA files on my SD card. They have always been listed under "Unknown Artist" along with a few mp3's.
when I click on unknown artist, the files show up listed under their correct names. When I click on the wma files (both by the same artist), they expand into individual file names.
After updating to 2.2 nothing has changed. Everything works normally. That would suggest HTC's advice may work for you.
On another note, don't you love it when you post a question, and the first response is, "I don't know how to help, but I don't like that kind of file anyway, and neither should you!!!

Hmmm...and your WMA files were never fully recognized? Not even on Android 2.1? Interesting. I guess I'll attempt a hard reset tonight, or maybe tomorrow.
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I had the exact same issue and can report that a hard reset had no effect. I'll be looking to convert my library to mp3 as well. Froyo has its quirks.
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Wow!! Thanks, pstar...I was literally 3 minutes away from starting the hard reset process and restoring everything. What is we gon' do? :-(
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helpwithmy8525 said:
Wow!! Thanks, pstar...I was literally 3 minutes away from starting the hard reset process and restoring everything. What is we gon' do? :-(
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Here's an idea: Go into a Sprint store with your Mini SD chip and see if they'll put in in another Android phone. See if it exhibits the same issue.

Good idea. I might try that tomorrow.
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ptsar said:
I had the exact same issue and can report that a hard reset had no effect. I'll be looking to convert my library to mp3 as well. Froyo has its quirks.
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I couldn't resist finding out for myself; I also tried a hard reset, to no avail...
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Funny, my wife is using the rooted stock froyo, first leaked build and all wma look fine with embedded art using HTC player. I am using cyanogen latest nightly and it still can't read wma tags at all. But I do like playing with the new DSP settings--worth the switch. As a workaround I converted the wma to mp4 and they read just fine.

I'm surprised anyone had success with wma on any version of android. For me, on 2.1, wma files wouldn't play (but a few DID, which confounds me to no end). Now on rooted 2.2, I experience the same behavior. Just for fun, I used astro and simply renamed the file type of some wmas to .mp3. Surprisingly, it seemed to work. I thought I was on to something. Then I tries that with some Audioslave songs. No worky. So probably the ones I did 'get to work', were some of the few that for no discernible reason, to me, already worked.
I would like to hear more about this issue, actually.

Its a problem in Froyo with both WMA and AAC encoded files. Reported in Google Code, so please go there, sign in to google, then star the issue so it gets some attention:
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...ag&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars

ringdroid

dont know if this is common knowledge at this point.. but i love the app ringdroid.
I have been finding free ways to chop up mp3s to make ringtones since my OG moto razor days . This app makes it incredibly easy. Maybe this could even turn into a healthy exchange of ringdroid made ringtones? Depends what music everyone listens to.. I generally go for some electro house or heavy dubstep.
lets see if this takes off!
(I know this is not epic specific and it could go in general android, but lets face it.. i would rather see what the epic peepz have to say, we're just more important)

DrKaotica said:
dont know if this is common knowledge at this point.. but i love the app ringdroid.
I have been finding free ways to chop up mp3s to make ringtones since my OG moto razor days . This app makes it incredibly easy. Maybe this could even turn into a healthy exchange of ringdroid made ringtones? Depends what music everyone listens to.. I generally go for some electro house or heavy dubstep.
lets see if this takes off!
(I know this is not epic specific and it could go in general android, but lets face it.. i would rather see what the epic peepz have to say, we're just more important)
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I personaly use gtunes since its a music downloader AND ringtone editor and fairly lite but this app is cool too!
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Free Music Download
I prefer Free Music Download. I think it came as bloatware, but it has a lot more songs than ringdroid and I love the interface to make the ringtones.

ashbuly said:
I prefer Free Music Download. I think it came as bloatware, but it has a lot more songs than ringdroid and I love the interface to make the ringtones.
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I think you're confused. Ringdroid is an audio file splicer. You can splice off a segment of an audio file and save that segment as its own file. General purposes are for creating alarm, notification or call ring tones to save to your local storage.
This app doesn't provide songs or access to a song market/outlet.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.ringdroid
Now if you are talking about Ringdroid Social, then that is a different story. That version combines the open source Ringdroid project with a social plugin to the "inthru" network. The "inthru" network plugin provides access to a song market/outlet. They are two separate projects and have separate Market pages.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.ringdroid.social

nikon120 said:
I think you're confused. Ringdroid is an audio file splicer. You can splice off a segment of an audio file and save that segment as its own file. General purposes are for creating alarm, notification or call ring tones to save to your local storage.
This app doesn't provide songs or access to a song market/outlet.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.ringdroid
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What he said ^^
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MP3 music download
https://market.android.com/details?id=great.app.luck&hl=en
I love this app. Download multiple tracks at once. It has a pretty good library. reminds me of the napster days

Figured there is so many gtunes that aren't real out there or they are outdated so I uploaded my final market official app before it got taken off.(it got taken off back when they were removing music downloaders) This app is a music downloader and it has a built in audio splicer and music player *although I don't recommend the audio player don't even press it, the scan for music takes forever.*
Here once again its not my work so I take no credit for it...
https://www.box.com/shared/yrzrakg7nhaq0hhqoegu
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iTunes Match

Has anyone considered using this to standardize their music collection?
I have a bunch of music from all different sources with varying degrees of information attached and mixed sound quality.
I think this would upgrade all of my music to a good quality with proper tags and artwork for $25.
What are your thoughts? Does it work like I think it does?

jasbur17 said:
Has anyone considered using this to standardize their music collection?
I have a bunch of music from all different sources with varying degrees of information attached and mixed sound quality.
I think this would upgrade all of my music to a good quality with proper tags and artwork for $25.
What are your thoughts? Does it work like I think it does?
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I had for a half of second considered this for use with my iPad. But I am confused why you are posting this here.? That leads me to believe that it does NOT work like you think it does. Because afaik there is no way to use Apple cloud on your Nexus.

Google Music imo.

I belive jasbur17 is saying he would like to use itunes match to upgrade all his music to 256 bitrate AAC files, convert them back to 320bitrate mp3s and also fix the tags using itunes match.
Then use google music to serve.

droidmarc said:
I belive jasbur17 is saying he would like to use itunes match to upgrade all his music to 256 bitrate AAC files, convert them back to 320bitrate mp3s and also fix the tags using itunes match.
Then use google music to serve.
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Why pay £27 for that when you could probably buy an ID tagger for a fraction of the price and download the music elsewhere since you already own it. Or just rip from CD if they have them

droidmarc said:
I belive jasbur17 is saying he would like to use itunes match to upgrade all his music to 256 bitrate AAC files, convert them back to 320bitrate mp3s and also fix the tags using itunes match.
Then use google music to serve.
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Again I don't think the concept of CLOUD is understood.

Actually, I'm not even speaking of using it as a cloud service.
iTunes Match scans your music then gives you access to all of the upgraded files in the cloud. At that point you could delete all of your local music, download all of the upgraded files to your computer, then send them to your nexus.
At that point you are done with Match. NO need to renew at the end of the year.

jasbur17 said:
Actually, I'm not even speaking of using it as a cloud service.
Google Match scans your music then gives you access to all of the upgraded files in the cloud. At that point you could delete all of your local music, download all of the upgraded files to your computer, then send them to your nexus.
At that point you are done with Match. NO need to renew at the end of the year.
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google match?

jasbur17 said:
Actually, I'm not even speaking of using it as a cloud service.
iTunes Match scans your music then gives you access to all of the upgraded files in the cloud. At that point you could delete all of your local music, download all of the upgraded files to your computer, then send them to your nexus.
At that point you are done with Match. NO need to renew at the end of the year.
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let us know if it works. This could be interesting

[Q] Music Player current Artist ID, Title ID and Playtime

Hello all,
I am using my default music player app in the car, and what i would like to work are the track info's which should appear in my bluetooth screen, now it only shows: " NO TITLE, NO ARTIST " with every song.
My friend has a Note II which does seem to work fine, it shows the title, artist and playtime on my screen.
Is there any music player that also sends all the things to my bluetooth radio ?
(i've already tried Winamp and PowerAMP but no succes.)
Thanks

This might not necessarily mean theres any errors, it just could be that your music has no ID3 tags.
This is what holds the information per track, such as Title and Artist as you say.
http://id3.org/
For info
http://www.pa-software.com/id3editor/
To edit your Tags

Wilks3y said:
This might not necessarily mean theres any errors, it just could be that your music has no ID3 tags.
This is what holds the information per track, such as Title and Artist as you say.
http://id3.org/
For info
http://www.pa-software.com/id3editor/
To edit your Tags
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To make sure, my and me friend used the exact same song. So i don't think that's the problem

fietspompje said:
To make sure, my and me friend used the exact same song. So i don't think that's the problem
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Hi, Did you send the song to each other through bluetooth? Or download from the EXACT same source?
If not, this could still be the case. ID3 tags can be applied or removed easily. One of the copies of your song may have the tags, the other may not.
But anyhoo, I tried

Wilks3y said:
Hi, Did you send the song to each other through bluetooth? Or download from the EXACT same source?
If not, this could still be the case. ID3 tags can be applied or removed easily. One of the copies of your song may have the tags, the other may not.
But anyhoo, I tried
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It is the same source, I copied it from my laptop to my own phone and my friends phone.

fietspompje said:
It is the same source, I copied it from my laptop to my own phone and my friends phone.
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Ok, sorry mate I can't help you then. Thats my only idea

Wilks3y said:
Ok, sorry mate I can't help you then. Thats my only idea
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I'll try different audio players and will keep up to date this thread.