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will Desire also have Wireless N?

Various media have reported that a video is demonstrating Nexus's wireless N connecting ability. Since it is said that Desire shares much the same hadrware as Nexus, will we have that highspeed connection too?

w00yee said:
Various media have reported that a video is demonstrating Nexus's wireless N connecting ability. Since it is said that Desire shares much the same hadrware as Nexus, will we have that highspeed connection too?
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I was wondering the same, wil the desire get "N" as well ??

Can someone enlighten me on what "N" is?
I have searched for it on the internet, and from what I can gather it is "Wifi incorporating numerous sources to make the speed faster?"

I've not managed to find the exact wireless chip that is in the Desire, but I'd be amazed if it was different from the N1.
The problem is going to be waiting for HTC to get a ROM with a sensified version of 2.2. Though if we are rooted by then, then I guess I could live without sense for a while.
I have to say, it seems as though rooting the Desire is a lot harder than people first thought.

redrazr7791 said:
Can someone enlighten me on what "N" is?
I have searched for it on the internet, and from what I can gather it is "Wifi incorporating numerous sources to make the speed faster?"
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You serious? Wireless n (300Mb/s), as opposed to Wireless g (56Mb/s). 802.11n. Faster, better range, more battery drain etc.

profet said:
I've not managed to find the exact wireless chip that is in the Desire, but I'd be amazed if it was different from the N1.
The problem is going to be waiting for HTC to get a ROM with a sensified version of 2.2. Though if we are rooted by then, then I guess I could live without sense for a while.
I have to say, it seems as though rooting the Desire is a lot harder than people first thought.
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don't know if Paul has got sth there during the past few days.
if desire has different hardware, i wish desire has a different touchscreen
yesterday i tweeted iFixit for a desire teardown, no reply so far =D

profet said:
You serious? Wireless n (300Mb/s), as opposed to Wireless g (56Mb/s). 802.11n. Faster, better range, more battery drain etc.
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Uh yea I am
I don't use WiFi, so when I started reading articles about the Nexus One and
"N" I wondered why it was such an amazing find
Guess I know my answer now.

Hi guys, N is a wireless standard (read here) but all you need to know is, it's faster than your current wireless connections.
Don't quote me on this but I believe it may already be activated on our phones.
It seems Google had a bunch of stuff that this chip could do turned off...like for instance the FM radio, which we have working.

Aitese said:
Don't quote me on this but I believe it may already be activated on our phones.
It seems Google had a bunch of stuff that this chip could do turned off...like for instance the FM radio, which we have working.
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i just checked and it's not
i set my router to wireless N only and the phone failed to connect
setting it back to g + n and the phone connects.
in the router setup, it shows the wireless session for the phone as 802.11g

Wireless 802.11n standard currently works on the Nexus One and interestingly, both the Nexus One and the Desire use the same Broadcom BCM4329 chip. Hopefully it will be activated in the next 2.2 firmware update (if that ever happens )

redrazr - sorry mate, just realised I probably sounded kinda rude.
Anyhow, wireless n would be a big improvement, particularly in range and reliability. From what I understand, it seems the desire HARDWARE is capable (with the right driver) but that the current software (Android) is not.

w00yee said:
don't know if Paul has got sth there during the past few days.
if desire has different hardware, i wish desire has a different touchscreen
yesterday i tweeted iFixit for a desire teardown, no reply so far =D
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Paul is on extended vacation atm...
at least 21 hours ago, we was in Rio?

profet said:
redrazr - sorry mate, just realised I probably sounded kinda rude.
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Its all good bud
It's Friday...just a little ancy to get this week over with & start the weekend.

The Lurking Droid said:
Paul is on extended vacation atm...
at least 21 hours ago, we was in Rio?
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Paul tweeted that he will be home tomorrow.
Hope he gets straight into rooting our phones

The Lurking Droid said:
Paul is on extended vacation atm...
at least 21 hours ago, we was in Rio?
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milkybarkid said:
Paul tweeted that he will be home tomorrow.
Hope he gets straight into rooting our phones
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you guys need to step outside once in a while before he files a restraining order

deprecate said:
you guys need to step outside once in a while before he files a restraining order
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Or even worse, ban you guys from knowing how to root the phone

milkybarkid said:
Paul tweeted that he will be home tomorrow.
Hope he gets straight into rooting our phones
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But who allowed him to go on vacation in first place?
And by plane!? Do you know how dangerous flying is these days? Seriously guys, we need to take better care of him.

milkybarkid said:
Paul tweeted that he will be home tomorrow.
Hope he gets straight into rooting our phones
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Yeah saw that too Hopefully he'll go right down to business!
@deprecate
Hey dude, watch it!
I went out as matter of fact yesterday, just be hailed by... hail and today, it's below zero outside :S and it's may very soon!!!!
and got cold on top of that :S well, it sucks to be me
@vlasac
we can always tell him from next time "flying to a vacation while trying to root? do not want!" or something

so, now we have root, can we get wireless n to work?

[Q] Has wifi-calling been ported to any ROMs? For t-mobile

I tried searching the roms forum, but I couldn't find anything.

It hasn't yet.
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Nope. And I wouldn't count on it. Its extremely hard to port it to an all-new platform. The apps are special-made for branded T-Mobile devices.

They are actually just built into the ROMs. A dev on HD2 forum has a really great solution, but it used to be an app of some sorts that needed a specific lib to run. Now it seems that they have started to integrate it into the OS. It has a settings page now, no actual app that needs to run.
There is some development going on for it right now over on the T989 forums. I may just go for it even without wifi calling.

albanianbrotha said:
I tried searching the roms forum, but I couldn't find anything.
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Bump as this would be great for those wanting this phone but suffer from poor indoor T-Mobile reception. This is the only thing making me hold off on getting this device over an SGSIII.

quailallstar said:
Bump as this would be great for those wanting this phone but suffer from poor indoor T-Mobile reception. This is the only thing making me hold off on getting this device over an SGSIII.
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It will never come. Do not hold off expecting T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling to come to this device.

Not having wifi calling was a concern for me but also manyytimes I had problems withnnoticeable delayon a call using ewifiand also yoibmight find that fforcing your phone to 2g where you normally use wifi calling will give you good signal (did for me).

martonikaj said:
It will never come. Do not hold off expecting T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling to come to this device.
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HD Voice (anyone notice any change?)

http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/t-mobile-network-advancements
wonder if this is only for stock/unmodded phones only.
anyone notice sound quality change?

atb1183 said:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/t-mobile-network-advancements
wonder if this is only for stock/unmodded phones only.
anyone notice sound quality change?
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interesting, I assume they will need to do an update to each phone's radio?

Hahaha that suppose to be starting yesterday. Weird that just today y friends started telling me that they cant hear me well. That my voice comes and goes but this is suppose to be for tmobile users not the callers

Probably be in an update. Haven't gotten anything on my end.
I am all about it though. Especially my stepdaughters Nokia Lumia as it is ridiculously terrible on the voice side, which is strange as Nokia used to be known just for how good their call quality was. Been through 3 replacements to boot....
My S3 sounds fine as well on most other phones, but the more the merrier as the old saying goes.
Sent from a galaxy far away!

Funny thing is with all the teaming off att frequency band AND thus hd voice thing, my s3 signal quality been worsening. More dropped calls and when not dropped, sounds quality is mediocre to not useable.
Only recently though.used to be quite useable
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atb1183 said:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/t-mobile-network-advancements
wonder if this is only for stock/unmodded phones only.
anyone notice sound quality change?
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If you go into Service mode *#0011#, you will see AMR 12.2Kbit/s. Im guessing that this is it. I wonder if you need to have noise reduction enabled for this? Also, I've noticed my signal improved( Usually -89dBm) I'm reading 83dBm now...

atb1183 said:
wonder if this is only for stock/unmodded phones only.
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I read somewhere that you need T-Mobile wifi-calling/IMS for VoLTE (Voice over LTE, or in this case HSPA+ "4G")
Oh yes, it is also going to be used for T-Mobile's VoLTE for its 2013 LTE launch, too. So it really does need to become supported in CM9 and AOSP soon.
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Source: xda post
T-Mobile open sourced IMS, which is used to allow apps to use wifi-calling (source is here). In order for "HD voice" to work on AOSP based/non-TW ROMs, IMS support will have to be added to the ROM. AFAIK, it can be done with the code T-Mobile and Movial released, but whether it ever gets added is looking slim as no ROM developer has expressed any interest in it it looks like the source T-Mobile released is pretty useless without knowing how to connect or authenticate with T-Mo's servers.
Sorry if I sound bitter, but I'd personally love to see wifi-calling ported to CM10 T-Mobile ROMs (especially the S3), but it doesn't look like it'll happen. I get horrible coverage in my home and drop calls/lose signal if I move into most areas inside. That said, wifi-calling is the only thing keeping me from ditching TW for a nice CM10 based ROM.

+1 and agree with you. That is the only thing keeping me from a cyanogenmod based rom. I prefer those anyway over everything else. But until wifi calling comes to an aosp rom i will have to stay on tw

Why would you ever use a rom that doesn't have wifi calling?

I just now realized how sick wifi calling, and realize how many roms don't have that feature. Take advantage of your T-Mobile phone. Over of the only carriers that allow this. Why the hell would you ever flash a rom that doesn't have it!????
Never ever again.
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tikay00 said:
I just now realized how sick wifi calling, and realize how many roms don't have that feature. Take advantage of your T-Mobile phone. Over of the only carriers that allow this. Why the hell would you ever flash a rom that doesn't have it!????
Never ever again.
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Because I might use it once a year and I don't need to talk to anybody bad enough to need wifi calling even if it is cool.
It's just a waste of energy obsessing over it and there are ten times as many roms in the international forum (I9505) most of them far better quality than anything here in the T-mobile forum no offense meant to our dev's but the experts are where the users are.
Last but not least Hangouts has a dialer now, you can use google's wifi calling anywhere on any rom :good:
As a recovering T-mobile believer I can only hope you see the light
Dear T-mobile, your third rate hacks, I'm still waiting form lollipop for my s4...

OldeCrow said:
Because I might use it once a year and I don't need to talk to anybody bad enough to need wifi calling even if it is cool.
It's just a waste of energy obsessing over it and there are ten times as many roms in the international forum (I9505) most of them far better quality than anything here in the T-mobile forum no offense meant to our dev's but the experts are where the users are.
Last but not least Hangouts has a dialer now, you can use google's wifi calling anywhere on any rom :good:
As a recovering T-mobile believer I can only hope you see the light
Dear T-mobile, your third rate hacks, I'm still waiting form lollipop for my s4...
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None of this made any sense. I've noticed one thing. All these custom kernels and roms eventually slow your phone down a lot, and lag the crap out of it. Never fails. All of them. Stock kernel for the win. All these gimmicky "badass governer" etc. suck.
I've been flashing forever, and I know what I'm talking about. I was using insane hybrid, and it worked good out the box, then a few days later what do you know, same lag like every custom rom and kernel will give you.
And no T-Mobile wifi, no go. Google hangouts sounds like trash in terms of reception. Tmobiles actual wifi calling is flawless victory.
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And I'm already waiting for a bunch of posters to say, "what???, I'm using rom x, and blah blah blah, its amazing!"
Bros, I've been flashing for years, there's not a single rom on this planet that beats a stock firmware, and just uninstall bloatware manually, while using xposed installer. I've seen the light, and I've compared custom roms to stock, untouched, and just manual uninstalls. No comparison.
Roms without wifi calling is a bastardized version of what this phone supposed to be. Truth.
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lots of loyal coolaid drinkers :good:
Doing it wrong, or not knowing what your doing (regardless of how many times you done it) doesn't make the rom or kernel bad.
I'm not championing aosp-ish based roms, they are lackluster featureless toys...ok thats another rant entirely...
Touchwiz based roms remain my choice and my experience with clean deodexed roms and a good kernel are overwhelmingly positive. I've never had a rom/kernel "eventually slow your phone down a lot, and lag the crap out of it", not sure what you are doing to your phone but it doesn't happen to me. I would agree "gimmicky" features in the kernel have never been that useful to me either but I don't use my phone as a supercomputer so maybe someone finds them useful.
I have three s4's currently I'm running stock/deodexed/knoxfree NK2 and hispAsian kernel on one,
I'm running Imperium TW on another, and Omega TW on the third, all with galaxy mod scripts.
I have ZERO issues on all of them Kernels are in their stock configurations or gov's set to intelidemand.
I can say Imperium rom and kernel in its stock configuration is the best benchmarking one of the three.
I have not found googles voice service to be noticeably lower quality than wifi calling especially with international calls I have found googles service to be better.
I guess it's true what they say "Individual results may vary"

Does WIFI calling allow you to make calls and send/receive texts if you have no signal/bars but youre on a WIFI network? If yes, that NEVER worked for me. I always needed some service reception for WIFI calling to work when i was on a stock T-Mobile ROM. Whats the point in that? So i dumped WIFI calling. I get zero service in my office so WIFI calling looked promising. What a disappointment. [emoji53]

HKSpeed said:
Does WIFI calling allow you to make calls and send/receive texts if you have no signal/bars but youre on a WIFI network? If yes, that NEVER worked for me. I always needed some service reception for WIFI calling to work when i was on a stock T-Mobile ROM. Whats the point in that? So i dumped WIFI calling. I get zero service in my office so WIFI calling looked promising. What a disappointment. [emoji53]
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I've been using it all day today, and my room vets horrible cell reception. Asked everyone how I sounded, said crystal clear, and they sounded crystal clear. I finally came to the light.
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OldeCrow said:
lots of loyal coolaid drinkers :good:
Doing it wrong, or not knowing what your doing (regardless of how many times you done it) doesn't make the rom or kernel bad.
I'm not championing aosp-ish based roms, they are lackluster featureless toys...ok thats another rant entirely...
Touchwiz based roms remain my choice and my experience with clean deodexed roms and a good kernel are overwhelmingly positive. I've never had a rom/kernel "eventually slow your phone down a lot, and lag the crap out of it", not sure what you are doing to your phone but it doesn't happen to me. I would agree "gimmicky" features in the kernel have never been that useful to me either but I don't use my phone as a supercomputer so maybe someone finds them useful.
I have three s4's currently I'm running stock/deodexed/knoxfree NK2 and hispAsian kernel on one,
I'm running Imperium TW on another, and Omega TW on the third, all with galaxy mod scripts.
I have ZERO issues on all of them Kernels are in their stock configurations or gov's set to intelidemand.
I can say Imperium rom and kernel in its stock configuration is the best benchmarking one of the three.
I have not found googles voice service to be noticeably lower quality than wifi calling especially with international calls I have found googles service to be better.
I guess it's true what they say "Individual results may vary"
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My man, I've been flashing roms since the damn vibrant. I know what I'm doing.
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HKSpeed said:
Does WIFI calling allow you to make calls and send/receive texts if you have no signal/bars but youre on a WIFI network? If yes, that NEVER worked for me. I always needed some service reception for WIFI calling to work when i was on a stock T-Mobile ROM. Whats the point in that? So i dumped WIFI calling. I get zero service in my office so WIFI calling looked promising. What a disappointment. [emoji53]
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I live in Waco, Texas (90 miles from Dallas). According to T-Mobile/MetroPCS' coverage map, I should have five bar 4G/LTE coverage at my home address. I have none. Wi-Fi calling works perfectly with my D-Link router for both texting and phone calls......NEVER fails.

jmacguire said:
I live in Waco, Texas (90 miles from Dallas). According to T-Mobile/MetroPCS' coverage map, I should have five bar 4G/LTE coverage at my home address. I have none. Wi-Fi calling works perfectly with my D-Link router for both texting and phone calls......NEVER fails.
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Your response makes me think perhaps my work's WIFI is somehow blocking wifi calling from working, although i can log on to wifi with my phone. I get excellent reception everywhere except in my office at work. WIFI calling worked at home but i dont know if it makes any difference since i have excellent reception anyway.
WIFI calling hasn't done anything for me, so i dont factor it into choosing a ROM.
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tikay00 said:
My man, I've been flashing roms since the damn vibrant. I know what I'm doing.
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Me too, I've still got three vibrants I use them as security cameras around my house...
I don't have any problems with the custom rooms I run on them either...
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OldeCrow said:
Me too, I've still got three vibrants I use them as security cameras around my house...
I don't have any problems with the custom rooms I run on them either...
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Maybe I'm just really good at paying attention to detail. I'm OCD when it comes to any slight changes with my phone.
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OldeCrow said:
all with galaxy mod scripts.
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What are these scripts you speak of?

I have been flashing for years as well, and you saying it doesn't make you credible in any sense. Perhaps the custom roms you have installed began to lag, but certain one's will not, so don't be ignorant and say that all custom roms do that because there are respectable developers out there that work hard on them. Back to the topic, I never used WiFi calling because, in my opinion, it's total crap. I have great WiFi speeds and it would always make the call quality bad for some reason, so it was ditched. At least, that is why I left it, and flashed a rom that doesn't have it, but I would understand how this feature would be useful if you have poor reception where you use your phone
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dirkdigles said:
What are these scripts you speak of?
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topic in the unified s4 section Galaxy_Mod_Ultimate
versions of these basic android scripts have been around forever, you've probably had them and not known it...

kevinrubio1 said:
I have been flashing for years as well, and you saying it doesn't make you credible in any sense. Perhaps the custom roms you have installed began to lag, but certain one's will not, so don't be ignorant and say that all custom roms do that because there are respectable developers out there that work hard on them. Back to the topic, I never used WiFi calling because, in my opinion, it's total crap. I have great WiFi speeds and it would always make the call quality bad for some reason, so it was ditched. At least, that is why I left it, and flashed a rom that doesn't have it, but I would understand how this feature would be useful if you have poor reception where you use your phone
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You saying wifi calling is total crap doesn't make you credible in any sense. In fact, I've been told I sound more clear with wifi calling, and the person on the other end sounds more clear as well. Somethings wrong with your modem if its not working well. Wifi calling is optimized for T-Mobile customers. You sure you don't have e a defective phone, or a crap modem???
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Look at the opinionballs on this guy. "It doesn't work right for me, so it's automatically crap for everyone." Riiiiiight.
I've literally flashed hundreds of roms and mods since buying my first smartphone (Samsung Moment) in 2009. Hell, I've even dabbled in development here and there over the years. Hundreds and thousands of different users reporting that a particular rom works as it should for them can't all be full of crap. Furthermore, your subjective opinion is just that. YOURS. If you don't like custom firmware, then don't use it. But, keep in mind where you are. This is a development community, and if you want to bad mouth the hard work done here for free by countless people, then maybe you should log out and go buy an iPhone.
Edit: [Title] Just changed my buildprop model to gt i9505...
tikay00 said:
Does that mean I have to flash roms made for that model??? Or do I still have to flash sgh m919 roms?
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Yeah, if you're asking questions like that, then you're not as experienced as you think you are.

tikay00 said:
You saying wifi calling is total crap doesn't make you credible in any sense. In fact, I've been told I sound more clear with wifi calling, and the person on the other end sounds more clear as well. Somethings wrong with your modem if its not working well. Wifi calling is optimized for T-Mobile customers. You sure you don't have e a defective phone, or a crap modem???
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it's just my opinion, from my experience. it never worked for me.
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HampTheToker said:
Look at the opinionballs on this guy. "It doesn't work right for me, so it's automatically crap for everyone." Riiiiiight.
I've literally flashed hundreds of roms and mods since buying my first smartphone (Samsung Moment) in 2009. Hell, I've even dabbled in development here and there over the years. Hundreds and thousands of different users reporting that a particular rom works as it should for them can't all be full of crap. Furthermore, your subjective opinion is just that. YOURS. If you don't like custom firmware, then don't use it. But, keep in mind where you are. This is a development community, and if you want to bad mouth the hard work done here for free by countless people, then maybe you should log out and go buy an iPhone.
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Yeah, if you're asking questions like that, then you're not as experienced as you think you are.
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Ain't that serious boss lmao.
Reason why I asked that is because I don't flash other model roms onto my T-Mobile device. That would actually make me careful, and wise.
Have you ever seen that one snl skit with Jimmy Fallon where he plays the sarcastic IT guy? You remind me of him
I never said I don't like custom roms, and when did I ever bad mouth someone's work? I'm just speaking the truth. Yeah, when you first flash a rom, your phone flies. Then give it a week, and it ALWAYS lags, slows down, or over heats eventually. It's never failed. Every single last rom, EXCEPT Jedi mind tricks ROM for the S2. I swear by that rom, but even then, you realize, half the trick to these roms are just changing the windows animations to 0. Let's be real. And honestly, even then, Jedi mind tricks would eventually start to random reboot, and have certain problems with certain roms.
Ok, here's an example of a problem with a current rom I used a week ago. Won't name names since you think I'm "bad mouthing" the devs. When I'm on my stock Samsung firmware, GPS works like an absolute charm, but when using a certain custom rom, the Google maps starts me off inverted, the map looks different, and the GPS cuts in and out.
Mind you, this is one of the most reliable and populat custom roms for this phone.
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I'd love to have WiFi calling again but since I switch SIMs around occasionally when traveling internationally it's not been a big deal. A T-Mobile provided wireless repeater helps with the deadspot in my living room while in the US. Having CM 12.1 is way more important for me than an outdated, insecure KitKat rom.
Now, if Samsung/T-Mobile releases 5.1.1 with the StageFright fix built in then the stock Touchwiz rom will be redeemed in my mind.

Any chance FoxFi or similar will work?

Probably the biggest thing keeping me from upgrading is not having native tether. Any chance this will be something unlockable now or in the near future?

s197 said:
Probably the biggest thing keeping me from upgrading is not having native tether. Any chance this will be something unlockable now or in the near future?
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What do you mean by native tethering?

s197 said:
Probably the biggest thing keeping me from upgrading is not having native tether. Any chance this will be something unlockable now or in the near future?
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This is incredibly annoying. I can use the app netshare, however my car's Android device does not see the wifi signal, just my computer's at home.
If anyone knows how to get this app to work like a normal wifi network, I'll be happy to keep the phone, otherwise it's a deal breaker.
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