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Root on hero?

Hey all, is there any news on the rooting of the Hero yet? Im anxiously waiting for the Hero to be released on T-Mobile, only another week or 2 left

danchappers said:
Hey all, is there any news on the rooting of the Hero yet? Im anxiously waiting for the Hero to be released on T-Mobile, only another week or 2 left
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What is this rooting? I hear so much about it, but not really known what it is.

danchappers said:
Hey all, is there any news on the rooting of the Hero yet? Im anxiously waiting for the Hero to be released on T-Mobile, only another week or 2 left
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T-Mobile USA?
Not getting it that I'm aware of. They just release a statement on it.

nicelad_uk said:
What is this rooting? I hear so much about it, but not really known what it is.
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Rooting is gaining super user access to you phone (or system OS really)
The general concept of a root is a suer with no restrictions, able to modify files, complete certain commands, and in the case of the Dream(G1) and Magic(MYtouch), allows a user to overclock thier phones
it basically means that you can run jailbroken apps and such and gain access to features like tethering and multi touch

Per default Android limits certain access to hardware on the phone for programmers / app makers.
'root'ing means that the whole android experience on your phone is running as 'the administrator who can do everything'. So now applications have access to the SD cards for example, or read the SMS database, and access the power management and processor for tweaks. That kind of thing.
'root'ing is needed for a lot of 'tweak' apps, but also for running custom ROMs I believe.

xXGariiXx said:
T-Mobile USA?
Not getting it that I'm aware of. They just release a statement on it.
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T-Mobile UK mate, Im very anxiously waiting

I just ordered mine... see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=539606
No word on rooting, but a lot of the reasons for rooting on previous android devices are solved on Hero
Bigger space on device for Apps
Tethering ability built in
Ability to clear Market Cache
Ability to clear Browser Cache
It actually has a hero ROM on it already (LOL)

Dayzee said:
I just ordered mine... see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=539606
No word on rooting, but a lot of the reasons for rooting on previous android devices are solved on Hero
Bigger space on device for Apps
Tethering ability built in
Ability to clear Market Cache
Ability to clear Browser Cache
It actually has a hero ROM on it already (LOL)
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Well im sure it will be here in a couple of months . Ill be ordering mine later, I get 50% off cause I work there so I cant complain lol,

Hi, check out my thread for information about root on Hero (done on Orange UK).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541522

danchappers said:
Well im sure it will be here in a couple of months . Ill be ordering mine later, I get 50% off cause I work there so I cant complain lol,
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Nice! Sell me One at a discounted price then!

danchappers said:
T-Mobile UK mate, Im very anxiously waiting
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My mistake. I wasnt aware that it was coming to T-mobile at all

Anyone else getting irritated by HTC?

And there fake release date news for 2.2?

Me, me, me.... damn it HTC
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nah
more irritated with google for not having App2SD functionality in the FIRST android release.
if it wasn't for the bogus 512mb "ROM limit" on installing apps, i wouldnt be awaiting froyo with such baited breath.

Yep been waiting all weekend! We should put a post when someone actually gets the 1st update from htc so we know!
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The weekend is not yet finished. So, I see no reasons to get upset.
And anyway, they might have really started to roll-out, as HTC Germany says.
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Yeah but during weekend is not when its 1 minute over midnight to monday.. it should already been out so people can update whenever they feel like during the weekend.. stop the teasing and just get it out when its so close.

Nope, not at all. You'll get it when you get it. Chill.

wally80 said:
The weekend is not yet finished. So, I see no reasons to get upset.
And anyway, they might have really started to roll-out, as HTC Germany says.
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This. IIRC it was only Germany and NL that "officially" announced it was coming, so nobody else has the right to ***** anyway if it doesnt.

If I wanted to be treated like this I would have bought a iPhone.

Of course I'm not irritated, I have a life!

ix9 said:
nah
more irritated with google for not having App2SD functionality in the FIRST android release.
if it wasn't for the bogus 512mb "ROM limit" on installing apps, i wouldnt be awaiting froyo with such baited breath.
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What limited would that be, and because as far as i'm aware the limit is hardware - the Dell Streak running 1.6 has 2gb available for apps storage.
Regards,
Dave

I really think some people need to step away from the internet and go out and have some fun. If it's here when you get back then you can install; if it's not then not.
Surely an update to your mobile phone can not be the most important thing in your lives...

Not in the least bothered really when it comes, today, tomorrow, next week.
I already have Froyo and its running sweet.

How many stupid Desire users does it take to screw in a lightbulb ?
The be honest I am more irritated by dumb-fu-ks who have more time than brain cells and have to whinge about everything including the firmware release of a completely functional mobile phone. Even worse is the fact that two mouse clicks away is another section of the forum where they could easily download and run about a dozen versions of Android 2.2 hacked/packed/delivered with all the bells and whistles.
So people put the fu-king phone down, chill out, go outside and take a breath of fresh air. You will live longer ....
THE UPDATE WILL COME WHEN IT COMES..... Jumping up and down about it, checking the OTA update on the phone every 2 microseconds and making another 1.4 billion new threads won't make it appear any faster...
Next instalment in the new pointless thread forum - "I fu-ked up my phone when updating the OTA ! Help !!!", "Why won't the HTC OTA work on my Orange/Virgin/crap branded Desire" and my favourite "What's an OTA", oh and another "Anyone got Froyo Update?" (speak of the devil http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741397 )

NutsyUK said:
And there fake release date news for 2.2?
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Nope, not really. Pretty much every company releases dates then has to put it back to some extent, this is nothing new.

fredaroony said:
If I wanted to be treated like this I would have bought a iPhone.
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And your reason? Apple are on time with everything mate. Don't be such a hater lol

If i knew this I would never have bought Desire.

soupratt said:
The be honest I am more irritated by dumb-fu-ks who have more time than brain cells [....]
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you do have a point here. but: why do you get so angry?
you accuse them of having nothing else to do than wait for the froyo release. yet, you fail to convey this in an appropriate manner: In order to make them realize that they are poor souls (whose sole purpose in life is a phone software update), you better tell them in a way they don't perceive as *****ing and hating.
however, the way you get all angry about them raises the suspicion that you yourself have little else to do in your free time. complaining about them doesn't help anyone!

BuroBernd said:
In order to make them realize that they are poor souls (whose sole purpose in life is a phone software update), you better tell them in a way they don't perceive as *****ing and hating.
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Do explain ... I just didn't think I could convey it simply enough without sign language and hand puppets. I really was typing V e r y s l o w l y for those "special" members.
Btw, my tongue is deeply buried in my cheek

mortuus82 said:
Yeah but during weekend is not when its 1 minute over midnight to monday.. it should already been out so people can update whenever they feel like during the weekend.. stop the teasing and just get it out when its so close.
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i beleve they said the "roll out" would START this weekend, that says nothing about anyone actuall getting it this weekend :s do you know what the " roll out " involves? because i dont lol
Nuntius said:
Of course I'm not irritated, I have a life!
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wow someone thats normal i thought i was the only one lol

CDMA HTC Desire?

Anyone else have the new CDMA version of the HTC Desire? I've had mine for a couple of days, and love it. I have noticed that this version seems to lack the FM radio that the GSM version came with.
Also, the CDMA version came with "Android 2.1 update 1" and has 720p video recording enabled.
Has anyone else noticed differences? Thoughts, etc?

Does yours take sim cards?
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cdma does not use sim cards, the uSCC desiire lacks FM radio and 256 mb of ram the GSm users have.

Juggalo_X said:
cdma does not use sim cards, the uSCC desiire lacks FM radio and 256 mb of ram the GSm users have.
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So your saying it has 256 less ram?

geetarman said:
So your saying it has 256 less ram?
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I'd hate that! I just can't believe they would even do that! hTc, shame on you, but still thanks for bringing us the amazing Desire (GSM)

!PANDA said:
I'd hate that! I just can't believe they would even do that! hTc, shame on you, but still thanks for bringing us the amazing Desire (GSM)
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Just checked the specs from the htc site on the us cellular version. It only has 384 MB ram. CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was gonna get this phone when it comes to cellular south which will be the same CDMA version. I guess I may have to wait on the galaxy s that cell south will be getting.

I dunno. my us cell desire says it has 295mb of ram free right now in advanced task killer. good bit of stuff running too. maybe it does only have 384, but i would think i would have a lot less free than that considering my droid 1 was almost always at 15-20mb free with 256mb. and that was a vanilla rom. no htc sense.
I think it could be a typo on htc site.

purezero. Do you notice any lagging on yours at all?

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I dunno. my us cell desire says it has 295mb of ram free right now in advanced task killer. good bit of stuff running too. maybe it does only have 384, but i would think i would have a lot less free than that considering my droid 1 was almost always at 15-20mb free with 256mb. and that was a vanilla rom. no htc sense.
I think it could be a typo on htc site.
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That would be great if it was a typo. I just watched a youtube video on US celluar version and he said 512 ram. I really want this phone b/c the galaxy s that is coming out is just a little to big of a phone to me.
purezero: what does it say on your box?

if you watch this video you can see the box and it says 576mb ram which is what i thought it was gonna have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81R7gSdaonI

geetarman said:
purezero. Do you notice any lagging on yours at all?
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Absolutely not. In fact it is the fastest stock android device I have ever used. And I have had or used almost all of the decent ones.
Just returned my Galaxy s (captivate) to att and switched to USCC last week to get the desire (way better service here).
Desire flat out kicks the galaxy's ass in everything except display. However, its still a very good display.
Not to mention I prefer the desires size a little more. Just a great phone.
ONLY bad thing about it is there wont be any damn developer support being on a small carrier.

geetarman said:
That would be great if it was a typo. I just watched a youtube video on US celluar version and he said 512 ram. I really want this phone b/c the galaxy s that is coming out is just a little to big of a phone to me.
purezero: what does it say on your box?
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Never thought to look there. haha.. It says 512 rom and 576 ram right on the back of the box

Glad to here that. Especially helps hearing this from someone who has used both the desire and galaxy s. The size is a big thing for me. The galaxy i think is just too big for me.

Awesome!!!! Now if Cellular south would just hurry up and release the thing.
Thanks purezero

Yes, I got the phone back on Friday. Love it. it has 512MB ROM and 576MB RAM. I'm on the phone waiting to speak with a USCC engineer for more info on potential 2.2 Froyo update. *fingers crossed*
I will also continue looking on the forums here. If anyone knows a thread that would be helpful in this and shorten my search, I would appreciate it. 1st post on the forums here. forums look like they have good potential for me.
Cheers!

Just got this as well.. LOVE IT!I can't do anything to slow it down and now that uscc has 3g roaming on vz and sprint, it is SICK. Now hopefully it can be rooted and custom roms will come out for it soon..

i just confirmed with the u s cellular engineer. we are going to get 2.2... however it's going to be at least a month before we see anything, most likely two. The good news is at least we now know It's coming.
BTW, i'm using the desire right now to turn my speech into text. it does a pretty good job, i only have to correct it once in a while.

geetarman said:
purezero. Do you notice any lagging on yours at all?
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I don't notice any lagging on mine so far.

primerorico said:
i just confirmed with the u s cellular engineer. we are going to get 2.2... however it's going to be at least a month before we see anything, most likely two. The good news is at least we now know It's coming.
BTW, i'm using the desire right now to turn my speech into text. it does a pretty good job, i only have to correct it once in a while.
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That's good to hear. I figured that it had to be sooner rather than later, since Foyo has already been rolling out for the GSM Desire in Europe.

primerorico said:
i just confirmed with the u s cellular engineer. we are going to get 2.2... however it's going to be at least a month before we see anything, most likely two. The good news is at least we now know It's coming.
BTW, i'm using the desire right now to turn my speech into text. it does a pretty good job, i only have to correct it once in a while.
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I've been playing with this somewhat as well. It seems to mostly work well if I'm not in a busy room.

T-mobile G2

was offically announces five days ago anybody planing on giving up there T-moble TP2 for the G2 or holding on to it until a window seven phone come out?

ya,uhm i go with no....
but ill hold out for next spring when a
Hardened win7 shows itself with exp

BeEazy10 said:
anybody planing on giving up their T-moble TP2 for the G2
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Seems off topic for this forum...but, yes.
So far I haven't heard anything about WP7 that makes it sound like something I'd want to wait for... And I'm tired of missing the apps/features that have come to Android and other OS, and not WM.

MCbrian said:
Seems off topic for this forum...but, yes.
So far I haven't heard anything about WP7 that makes it sound like something I'd want to wait for... And I'm tired of missing the apps/features that have come to Android and other OS, and not WM.
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Oops sorry about being off topic, but yeah same here i hate missing out on the apps etc, but at the same time i like being able to customize my phone like crazy

I hope to get one this weekend. That's if they are released on Friday as they are said to be.

chevy383surfing said:
I hope to get one this weekend. That's if they are released on Friday as they are said to be.
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G2 this weekend?? I don't think so...pre-order, maybe, but the latest rumors call for an Oct 16 launch.
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but at the same time i like being able to customize my phone like crazy
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Me too...which is one reason I'm not interested in WP7 (based on what I've heard so far, it'll be way-locked-down)

yea i think it might be that way for a while until some chefs get a hold of it
but the specs i dont quite like im holding out for an android with specs like the evo or better

ilikepu said:
yea i think it might be that way for a while until some chefs get a hold of it
but the specs i dont quite like im holding out for an android with specs like the evo or better
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same here im going to wait it out, but rumor is that in europe WM7 phone coming out and about three to two weeks. so we should see some video on youtube soon

MCbrian said:
G2 this weekend?? I don't think so...pre-order, maybe, but the latest rumors call for an Oct 16 launch.
Me too...which is one reason I'm not interested in WP7 (based on what I've heard so far, it'll be way-locked-down)
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Mine was pre-ordered. I got a text from T-Mobile 2 days ago letting me know to expect my G2 to arrive within 7 days.

After actually reading that Oct 16 launch article in the link above, the only thing I can figure is that the G2 will be officially released to all customers. New or existing customers. The T-Mobile guy told me on the phone that it would be arriving at my house around the 6th. So, I dunno.. It would not surprise me any if it didn't come out till November 16th. Nothing about the phone companies ever comes as a surprise. But, I am still having fun customizing my TP2 and messing around with the xandroid on the sd card.

wow so there's people on here making off topic posts about the fisher price lookin OS too.

eric12341 said:
wow so there's people on here making off topic posts about the fisher price lookin OS too.
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well this thread haven't been moved yet... so yeah go somewhere with your lame jokes

chevy383surfing said:
After actually reading that Oct 16 launch article in the link above, the only thing I can figure is that the G2 will be officially released to all customers. New or existing customers. The T-Mobile guy told me on the phone that it would be arriving at my house around the 6th. So, I dunno.. It would not surprise me any if it didn't come out till November 16th. Nothing about the phone companies ever comes as a surprise. But, I am still having fun customizing my TP2 and messing around with the xandroid on the sd card.
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It fun customizing the TP2 but i think it time for somthing solid. to much flashing and re-installing app gets annoying after a while

BeEazy10 said:
well this thread haven't been moved yet... so yeah go somewhere with your lame jokes
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not a lame joke, its the truth

Following articles say G2 may be on sale any day now, or may already be available:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-gives-stores-permission-to-sell-the-g2-ahead-of-schedule/
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/09/radio-shack-dropping-the-t-mobile-g2-on-october-3rd/

Not sure about the comment about not wanting to give up the ability to customize (like you can on the TP2). There is lots of customization available on Android, on an OS that is vastly smoother, more stable, and has tons of support from app developers.
One of the few things stopping me from going to Android, is the lack of a ATT-compatible handset with a hardware keyboard. And I might be willing to overlook the keyboard requirement.

redpoint73 said:
Not sure about the comment about not wanting to give up the ability to customize (like you can on the TP2). There is lots of customization available on Android, on an OS that is vastly smoother, more stable, and has tons of support from app developers.
One of the few things stopping me from going to Android, is the lack of a ATT-compatible handset with a hardware keyboard. And I might be willing to overlook the keyboard requirement.
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Typing on a phone with a big screen like the HD2 is not that bad.

I'm thinking of going with the Desire Z (virtually identical to the G2).
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same here im going to wait it out, but rumor is that in europe WM7 phone coming out and about three to two weeks. so we should see some video on youtube soon
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Don't think that's got a hardware keyboard though, more of an HD2 equivalent, perhaps ?

BeEazy10 said:
Typing on a phone with a big screen like the HD2 is not that bad.
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People with iPhones have the same description of the screen keyboard: "not that bad". The screen keyboard is never described as "good". "Not that bad" isn't good enough for me. A hardware keyboard is simply faster, more accurate, and therefore a superior input method. It does result in a slightly thicker form factor, but that's a trade-off that is more than worthwhile, IMO. Especially coming from the best hardware keyboard on a phone (the TP2), its pretty tough for me to make a switch to a screen keyboard.

redpoint73 said:
Following articles say G2 may be on sale any day now, or may already be available:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-gives-stores-permission-to-sell-the-g2-ahead-of-schedule/
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/09/radio-shack-dropping-the-t-mobile-g2-on-october-3rd/
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People who pre-ordered started receiving the G2 late last week. And the G2 board at T-Mobile Forums has been going nuts for several days...crises rising and falling -- lots of drama.

Themes / Apps / Mods Nostalgia overload

This wallpaper takes me back to the first Nexus device. Hard to believe how far phones have come since the first one. Anyone else around since the G1 era?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xdevl.wallpaper.nexus&hl=en_AU&gl=US

tids2k said:
Why not do a search before ask ? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xdevl.wallpaper.nexus&hl=en_AU&gl=US
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They haven't asked for anything though? Apart from who else has been around since the early days

Is the old Nexus wallpaper built in? I only have a chess thing for Alive wallpaper

nighthawk626 said:
This wallpaper takes me back to the first Nexus device. Hard to believe how far phones have come since the first one. Anyone else around since the G1 era?
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i am here Nexus One made by HTC

DinarQ8 said:
i am here Nexus One made by HTC
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Me too from HTC HD2 times.

skimminstones said:
They haven't asked for anything though? Apart from who else has been around since the early days
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My Bad..

Can you Link the wallpaper?

My boss had that phone. I was so jealous. Lol

That's the phone that started me on android, had two G1's, one rooted and one stock. Was fun back in those days with all the development going on. Cyanogen Mod and waiting for the weekly updates, can't remember who but I did some testing for one of the recoveries used on the G1.

I had an N1, but only after the original HTC Desire as that was more widely available in the UK and, after using both, somewhat more refined than the N1. That said, the physical trackball was far easier to use than the optical on the Desire.
I was also a fan of the Nexus S and its curved front, but I know I'm in the minority on that one

paysen said:
Can you Link the wallpaper?
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Second post in this thread. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/nostalgia-overload.4354343/post-85857495
My first Android was the HTC Droid Eris (rooted, of course). The trackball was interesting although it gave me problems eventually, and I then had to abuse it to get it completely disabled instead of giving me the constant problems when I wasn't trying to use it.

DinarQ8 said:
i am here Nexus One made by HTC
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Add me to the infamous Nexus One! Trackball ftw

ggrant3876 said:
That's the phone that started me on android, had two G1's, one rooted and one stock. Was fun back in those days with all the development going on. Cyanogen Mod and waiting for the weekly updates, can't remember who but I did some testing for one of the recoveries used on the G1.
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JesusFreak I believe was the recovery Kingpin, right?
Yes I had to go to Columbus, Oh. to buy the G1 because the Cincinnati area didn't have 3G and T-Mobile only sold the phone in 3G coverage areas.

belair56 said:
JesusFreak I believe was the recovery Kingpin, right?
Yes I had to go to Columbus, Oh. to buy the G1 because the Cincinnati area didn't have 3G and T-Mobile only sold the phone in 3G coverage areas.
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yeppers that was it, I even tested a Rom for him that partially worked!

I had a G1 as well.

nighthawk626 said:
This wallpaper takes me back to the first Nexus device. Hard to believe how far phones have come since the first one. Anyone else around since the G1 era?
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I am. Rooted my HTC G1 and loved it. Then the Nexus One was launching and at the time my phone was still fairly new considering how long we used to keep them before smart phones.
Since my wife (gf then) wanted to save money on our bill she got this garbage Samsung dumb phone when I got the G1. So when the Nexus launched I had zero issue buying it immediately because she HATED that phone and wanted mine.
Can't blame me, I tried to talk her into a G1 (she later upgraded to a Rezound, god I miss HTC) she wouldn't budge though lol.
I would be constantly flashing new firmware and Kernel's on my Nexus. I barely ever used it I was doing it so often just because of how cool it was. Eventually the scene started to slow down and I got a couple non Google phones then a pixel xl which was my last until the 6 pro. My least fav Nexus was the Samsung Galaxy Nexus... Go figure since the last 3 phones I've had and come to eventually hate were all Samsung snapdragon devices that couldn't be rooted. I should have imported one instead. Apparently there is a method but it's not public afaik and it costs too much to be worth it and you have to mail them your phone... No ty.
Hopefully Google doesn't start preventing modification because that would be a damn shame. Seeing where the scene is today compared to then is already hard enough. We went from too many firmwares and Kernel's to not enough and it seemed to happen really fast too. I had a bad feeling the day they announced cyanogen was going to come pre installed on whatever that phone was. So many other people based their modified firmware on cyanogen but the tweaks some of them made were genius. Stuff Google is just adding now.
The only bad memory of the scene I have is when I bought an nVidia shield portable off of eBay and the guy didn't say that he installed lineage to it and I don't remember if I couldn't get it back to it's original state for some reason or what but I was not happy, especially since those things were rare and I had found one in we great shape but I couldn't use anything but moonlight on it... Owell.