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Sense crashing

Is anyone else having a problem with Sense continually crashing? Almost every other time I go into an app and use it for any length of time, when I exit the app Sense has crashed and I have to watch the stupid loading animation while it restarts. It's happening really regularly.
Cheers.
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ozym said:
Is anyone else having a problem with Sense continually crashing? Almost every other time I go into an app and use it for any length of time, when I exit the app Sense has crashed and I have to watch the stupid loading animation while it restarts. It's happening really regularly.
Cheers.
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Check how much ram is free.
And check the developers options for background tasks.

Yup noticed that too. This needs to be updated not liking sense.
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Check how much ram is free.
And check the developers options for background tasks.
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Used : 772 Free : 204
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Incredible how much ram Sense is taking up.
I figured it would take less considering it's more stream lined to look at compared to say Sense 3.
At times it feels like we've got two operating systems competing with each other for resources but slapped together.

It's definitely not ram related. It just did it again with 313 mb free.
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I initially noticed this too. Then I went and disabled auto updates to HTC sense and voila, no more seemingly crashes in Sense.
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globalgpj said:
I initially noticed this too. Then I went and disabled auto updates to HTC sense and voila, no more seemingly crashes in Sense.
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Hi globalgpj, can you tell me how you disabled auto updates? I got my new device yesterday and I find that my touch screen and buttons become unresponsive fairly often. The only solution is to press the power button briefly to switch off the screen and on again and the response is ok.
Thanks.

I had this problem too 1st time i started my phone.
What helped for me was a complete system restore and skip the setup-wizard and do all that manually one in SENSE.
Here it shows how it was on my phone (look at 0:30)
Goog luck!
http://youtu.be/M1twF1d7srI
Goog luck!

ozym said:
Is anyone else having a problem with Sense continually crashing? Almost every other time I go into an app and use it for any length of time, when I exit the app Sense has crashed and I have to watch the stupid loading animation while it restarts. It's happening really regularly.
Cheers.
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If this bothers you return the phone. Htc has had this issue since the Sensation. It will rear its head at some point. It's because Sense uses too much ram and isn't locked in memory so Android will dump it from ram to make room for other apps and then it has to reload which takes longer than most launchers. This reason alone is why I'm staying away from Sense. Try using an 3rd party launcher and it'll work better.

mobilehavoc said:
If this bothers you return the phone. Htc has had this issue since the Sensation. It will rear its head at some point. It's because Sense uses too much ram and isn't locked in memory so Android will dump it from ram to make room for other apps and then it has to reload which takes longer than most launchers. This reason alone is why I'm staying away from Sense. Try using an 3rd party launcher and it'll work better.
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That's why someone above had it happen with 300mb free right?
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joshnichols189 said:
That's why someone above had it happen with 300mb free right?
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You don't understand. This issue has been confirmed by many people on Sensation running Gingerbread and ICS including me. Adding a line to the build file forcing Sense to be locked in memory. The moment you remove that line (how it is by default) it starts happening.
It's fine, just don't expect this issue to be fixed because to htc its not an issue. It's just the way it is.

Apply V6 Supercharger solve all problems.
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docraj said:
Hi globalgpj, can you tell me how you disabled auto updates? I got my new device yesterday and I find that my touch screen and buttons become unresponsive fairly often. The only solution is to press the power button briefly to switch off the screen and on again and the response is ok.
Thanks.
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I can't remember exactly. But it did solve my problem of sense constantly loading which causes lag or delay in sense loading.
However, check the following:
Go into settings, and at the very bottom is Developer options. Click this option. Then see if this item is ticked :"Show screen updates"... if it is ticked, untick it.
The only thing I have ticked in this option is "Animation", everything else is unticked.
The other thing I also do, is I try not to have my widgets updated constantly. I have my emails checked only every 3 hours, my news reader, greader pro, every 12 hours.
Let me know if this has helped you.
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Apply V6 Supercharger solve all problems.
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I believe you can only use this script with a rooted device. Is that correct ?
Many people with HTC One X may be locked into a carrier for some period of time and therefore on a Stock ROM !

adding echo ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 to the local.prop solved the problem on my Desire Z, luckily temproot was enough to edit the file.
I don't suppose there is a way to temproot the One X yet?! I'm not interested in perm rooting my One just yet... I'm too fond of my 2yrs. warranty

The Agenda calendar widget crashes Sense everytime i look at it. My wife has a One S and the same widget crashes sense on that too

sebsal said:
The Agenda calendar widget crashes Sense everytime i look at it. My wife has a One S and the same widget crashes sense on that too
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This is a confirmed bug (countless people reported it).

I find this very strange.. i have in the last week had one force close on sense, other than that it has been fine

I haven't seen a single force close on anything yet. Had a few random close-without errors on Route 66 and one or two on Sygic, but this is infinitely more stable than my ICS Asus Transformers...
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H-Cim said:
This is a confirmed bug (countless people reported it).
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I have to agree with you . That was my problem in the beginning. So I installed Touch Calendar app, and since then, no more problems.
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PS. I also went into SETTINGS, clicked on "Accounts and Sync" and check under my gmail account to see how many things were auto syncing. I removed most of them and chose to do them when I needed to. This helped conserve battery and possibly a smoother SENSE operation.

Poor battery life since update to MA7

My battery life has been significantly less since I have updated to Ma7. Running it stock, deoxded, and rooted. I've included screens shots
Any ideas? I appreciate the help.
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Looks like you got a wakelock, use better battery stats to see what's causing it. That almost solid blue bar in your 2nd screen shot shows way more awake time than what your screen on time is, awake almost 80% or so of your total uptime
I like to break stuff!

I'll give it a try and post back.
Thanks!
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Could Google now location services, such as time to work cards, be causing pipe battery life?
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All that maps stuff will kill your battery, especially if you're inside where gps can't lock fast. I use autostarts to force maps to stay off unless I open them. And yes cards in google now do hit battery pretty hard as well.
I like to break stuff!

Everybody is over looking Mediaserver skyrocketing to the top of the list since this MA7 update. I'm also experiencing a drop in battery. Mediaserver is the cause and u can't seem to find a fix :banghead:
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Yes indeed.
The Google location services is a big user as well, but to turn it off or prevent it's autostart would hinder Google now, at least I would think so.
Good point on the media server. The battery life was better before this update, and I'm sure Google was still hogging battery life. So media server seems to be the problem... Possible.
Could one possible freeze certain apps to eliminate the drain from the media server?
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RayTrue04 said:
Everybody is over looking Mediaserver skyrocketing to the top of the list since this MA7 update. I'm also experiencing a drop in battery. Mediaserver is the cause and u can't seem to find a fix :banghead:
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Mediaserver drains battery fiercely due to a bad image file or video file......it keeps trying to read the file. The only fix that I found was to backup your sd card reformat it then add a folder at a time to make sure it doesnt get stuck scanning.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
All that maps stuff will kill your battery, especially if you're inside where gps can't lock fast. I use autostarts to force maps to stay off unless I open them. And yes cards in google now do hit battery pretty hard as well.
I like to break stuff!
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I've found that it is only the network based locating that causes this particular wakelock madness. Turn off network based location and maps behaves fine... Shame really as Google Now is coded to be broken unless Google knows what network your connected to.
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neopolotin75 said:
Mediaserver drains battery fiercely due to a bad image file or video file......it keeps trying to read the file. The only fix that I found was to backup your sd card reformat it then add a folder at a time to make sure it doesnt get stuck scanning.
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I doubt it's any of my files. It never was a problem on LJC. And even now the problem is random. Comes and goes on different boots. I'm thinking maybe Samsung accounts might have to do something with it. A few days ago I noticed it updated a Samsung push service app on its own. In my head that sounds about the same time my problem started.
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Battery life is awsome here on MA7
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RayTrue04 said:
I doubt it's any of my files. It never was a problem on LJC. And even now the problem is random. Comes and goes on different boots. I'm thinking maybe Samsung accounts might have to do something with it. A few days ago I noticed it updated a Samsung push service app on its own. In my head that sounds about the same time my problem started.
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Ive had the same thing happen twice.....both times after I did that it solved the problem. ....I found the fix in either a gs3 forum here or another note forum where people were having the same issue......just saying wouldnt hurt to try that if its the mediaserver running.....but heres a good read
http://www.connect-utb.com/2012/07/buggy-android-mediaserver-draining-your-battery/
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Wish I was seeing that.
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poor battery
BlueGoldAce said:
My battery life has been significantly less since I have updated to Ma7. Running it stock, deoxded, and rooted. I've included screens shots
Any ideas? I appreciate the help.
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Brother...
I've been running Macs ROM Ma7 my battery life is incredible good...
Macksromm 2.5 galaxy note 2 sprint
Best rom ever
Give a try you will be amazed

eidercardoso said:
Brother...
I've been running Macs ROM Ma7 my battery life is incredible good...
Macksromm 2.5 galaxy note 2 sprint
Best rom ever
Give a try you will be amazed
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Do you have stock ma7 kernal or Perseus 33.4
JellyBombed Note 2 got me feeling like I'm outta this world..

Skripka said:
I've found that it is only the network based locating that causes this particular wakelock madness. Turn off network based location and maps behaves fine... Shame really as Google Now is coded to be broken unless Google knows what network your connected to.
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That's why I use autostarts to disable everything unless I open it manually. Then you don't need to turn off the location services they just don't activate til YOU tell them too. They fully function just like normal only they only function when the app is in the foreground
I like to break stuff!

Sorry of this question seems redundant.
So will doing this hinder Google now or any of its features?
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BlueGoldAce said:
Sorry of this question seems redundant.
So will doing this hinder Google now or any of its features?
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Doing what? Disabling network-based locating, or using autostarts?
Google Now to fully function requires knowledge of what wifi network or cellular network you're connected to to...Shame really, and downright creepy.

Skripka said:
Doing what? Disabling network-based locating, or using autostarts?
Google Now to fully function requires knowledge of what wifi network or cellular network you're connected to to...Shame really, and downright creepy.
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I was referring to autostarts but I guess both.
Thanks
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Lag after a day

So why does my phone start to lag after a day. No matter what ROM or kernel I am on, after about 20 hours my phone starts to lag. If I restart my phone all is good. Does anyone have an explanation? Is this a great 4.2.2 feature? This wasn't happening before that.
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Is that even pure stock? There are several posts on this already. There isn't a genuine solution but some have suggested some ways to minimize lag on 4.2.2.
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I have tried all sorts of ROMs.I will look for some of the other posts. Its just frustrating because I can get it to fly, but have to reboot 1-2 times a day.
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Check your memory usage. I have this problem too - and it seems like my memory if full. Try to see what services run in the background and maybe you can stop some of them. Also look at 'Greenify' - it is an app that stops background processing for apps you don't want hanging in the background. It requires root, though.

do you use twrp? i had that problem until someone mentioned that twrp doesnt wipe completely and used cmw.
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grognaz said:
do you use twrp? i had that problem until someone mentioned that twrp doesnt wipe completely and used cmw.
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What?

ohurvitz said:
Check your memory usage. I have this problem too - and it seems like my memory if full. Try to see what services run in the background and maybe you can stop some of them. Also look at 'Greenify' - it is an app that stops background processing for apps you don't want hanging in the background. It requires root, though.
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I installed greenify and will see in a day or so if it is working. Thanks for the tip.
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allan1313 said:
So why does my phone start to lag after a day. No matter what ROM or kernel I am on, after about 20 hours my phone starts to lag. If I restart my phone all is good. Does anyone have an explanation? Is this a great 4.2.2 feature? This wasn't happening before that.
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would it be too much of apps running at the background and causing it lag?

I'm reading about this issue more and more everyday ... one solution i saw was that to install "Clean master" from Play store and clear cache with that to minimize lag i believe it only affects custom roms and not stock based roms :/

okay a crappy video showing lag when launching some apps.my g3

Topic can be removed. Issues fixed after restart

Aw that sucks. It took a few extra seconds to open an app(which varies in time to open since it's loading content which is up and down at any given millisecond).
What a pile.

00dahc said:
Aw that sucks. It took a few extra seconds to open an app(which varies in time to open since it's loading content which is up and down at any given millisecond).
What a pile.
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The problem is facebook and message me opened right away where g3 took a while. I dont see why that is. It should both open just as same
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Just installed Facebook and filmed a quick video. It does seem to take a bit of time load, but this is just an app optimisation issue

jhericurls said:
Just installed Facebook and filmed a quick video. It does seem to take a bit of time load, but this is just an app optimisation issue
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seems the apps that take a while to launch for me always shows a gray screen first for quite while then the app loads .
but like i said it seems to launch slower over time. and restarting is the only way to get it back to open faster.
i tried killing apps in background and freeing ram still opens same.

what do you have install on your g3? are you rooted? xpose? art? dalvik? animation speeds?

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what do you have install on your g3? are you rooted? xpose? art? dalvik? animation speeds?
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i have not rooted the device , im using the default animation speeds, and dalvik.
my g2 is rooted. but have not tweaked it.

We agree there are some people experiencing this.. My recommendation is to try this mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/mod-root-rid-lag-g3-t2819365
A lot of people have tried it with great results.. If you're too chicken to try it, I can help you.
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shook187 said:
We agree there are some people experiencing this.. My recommendation is to try this mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/mod-root-rid-lag-g3-t2819365
A lot of people have tried it with great results.. If you're too chicken to try it, I can help you.
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I dont really like using mods. I mean i feel like itll ruin my device. Besides mods shouldnt be needed. Idk if this lag is because of the 801 chip or just lgs os on g3
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StreetkillnHD said:
I dont really like using mods. I mean i feel like itll ruin my device. Besides mods shouldnt be needed. Idk if this lag is because of the 801 chip or just lgs os on g3
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If you're not willing to do anything about it why even post a video? , I suggest you move on to a different device... Maybe try the M8
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If you're not willing to do anything about it why even post a video? , I suggest you move on to a different device... Maybe try the M8
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I just wanted to see if others have the same issue or is it just me. I had the m8 and sold it. Its not for me. I prefer the g2 and 3 over m8 or s5
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I just wanted to see if others have the same issue or is it just me. Just showing my problem with the lag.
I had the m8 and sold it. Its not for me. I prefer the g2 and 3 over m8 or s5
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DID not know i posted that twice

I hope our 5.1.1 will be this fast!

Find this over in the Sprint 5.1.1 boards somewhere...
http://youtu.be/a7zBMdaPQ_s
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The recent apps menu did look like it opened faster but everything else seemed very laggy and jittery. Maybe it's just the video, but my Note 4 is a lot smoother than that one.
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keithfrombm said:
Find this over in the Sprint 5.1.1 boards somewhere...
http://youtu.be/a7zBMdaPQ_s
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The kernel seems to indicate that it's a rooted version and maybe it's debloated and that's why it's snappier..
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Mine isn't snappier. At all. Maybe on the kernel, but even that wouldn't explain the absolute zero lag on recent apps. My buddy's rooted Note 3 is nowhere near that. Even it has a "little" lag.
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My Wife and I got a pair of Note 4's PRIOR to Lollipop. We both upgraded to 5.0.1
She is of the "I dont like messing with it" I have downloaded most every launcher, got involved in themes etc.
Other than disable the bloatware (fitness, milk, ant, etc.) I want to say her phone is so blazing fast I cannot even comprehend why it is so fast compared to mine. I have factory reset mine ( hers no) but that thing is what all phones should be like..
Q: On an Android system does it have something like a defrag like computers? Why would hers be faster than mine? Ideas?

dave30534 said:
My Wife and I got a pair of Note 4's PRIOR to Lollipop. We both upgraded to 5.0.1
She is of the "I dont like messing with it" I have downloaded most every launcher, got involved in themes etc.
Other than disable the bloatware (fitness, milk, ant, etc.) I want to say her phone is so blazing fast I cannot even comprehend why it is so fast compared to mine. I have factory reset mine ( hers no) but that thing is what all phones should be like..
Q: On an Android system does it have something like a defrag like computers? Why would hers be faster than mine? Ideas?
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I'm pretty sure the reason is becuase you have a lot more apps on your phone, starting with a different launcher.
I don't know why Android does this (or is it the app developers causing it?)...but a lot of apps load into memory whether you run them or not. Less memory available = slower performance. This is why I was disappointed when the Note 4 came with 3GB instead of 4GB of memory.
I have a lot of apps on my phone, and especially if multitasking it is quite laggy (for example, when I go for a walk, I'll be playing music through BT, and have MyTracks running to track the walk. If a text comes in, it has a very long lag before it opens).
This is the reason I'll likely be replacing my Note 4 with something else soon.

Well, I so have a TMobile N4 on the way. Plan to root, and install a KK ROM. Been researching on the TM Dev site, and there appears to be a great one there. Everybody touts the speed and battery performance.
That being said, the topic of 5.1.1 came up. One of the folks there had just got the T3 version of the N4 wiht 5.1.1, and he said as far as he is concerned, no ROM necessary. Says it flies. No comparison.
So, hopefully, 5.1.1 will be here on AT&T before long.

I switched back to stock launcher, removed a few weather widgets and a few less used apps and now mine flies.
I guess we have been lucky, we have never experienced any battery issues or any other things spoken of during this 5.0.1 update.
The only issue we have ever had is the issue with wifi vs 4G LTE. When you reach an area with wifi it sees the signal, wont connect due to not having the pw and the phone becomes useless unless wifi is turned off or you leave the area. Still waiting on speedify to come through with its beta.
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I decided to try the stock launcher after reading your post. It is hard to believe how much faster it is. I miss the customization but love the extra performance. Hope I can figure out why the stock launcher keeps crashing once in a while.
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After reading this, I thought I'd give it a try. Jeebus! Okay, so maybe the problem is more Nova Launcher than my actual Note. The downside is, I love Nova! I use the gestures and such constantly. And my phone stays in landscape position all day. Has anyone had success with other launchers?
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It's weird how different these phones are. I've been using nova prime for about 2 months now. Went back and used stock Touchwiz launcher for a day or so and was thinking how jittery it was compared to nova. Went back to nova.
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jack man said:
It's weird how different these phones are. I've been using nova prime for about 2 months now. Went back and used stock Touchwiz launcher for a day or so and was thinking how jittery it was compared to nova. Went back to nova.
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Yeah, after an hour of using TW, the recent apps lag was back. Switched back to Nova, no lag. For a few minutes. So much for that. Does anyone know exactly what the nature of the "memory leak" in 5.0.1 is? This must be related somehow.
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jack man said:
It's weird how different these phones are. I've been using nova prime for about 2 months now. Went back and used stock Touchwiz launcher for a day or so and was thinking how jittery it was compared to nova. Went back to nova.
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keithfrombm said:
Yeah, after an hour of using TW, the recent apps lag was back. Switched back to Nova, no lag. For a few minutes. So much for that. Does anyone know exactly what the nature of the "memory leak" in 5.0.1 is? This must be related somehow.
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Just curious, for both of you. I do not have my power saving mode turned on. There is a tab there that restricts cpu performance if its on.

JFYI...This past week I got a T-Mobile Note 4. Rooted it, installed a 5.1.1. ROM, and it is much faster. I too use Nova Launcher.
Battery is great too. I typically do an overnight / screen off test to get a general feeling of battery performance.
My AT&T Note 4 overnight with power saving off, wifi on, BT on, used just under 5% / hour. The TM one with same conditions lastnight used .73% / Hour. Yes...less than 1% / hour. I'm seeing quotes over in the ROM thread of 5-6 hours SOT.
I was ready to ditch the Note 4. Not now.

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Just curious, for both of you. I do not have my power saving mode turned on. There is a tab there that restricts cpu performance if its on.
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Not on for me.
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keithfrombm said:
Not on for me.
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Yup I see it..thanks
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Wont be long now I hope. I noticed most every app I own has updated in the past 2 days. Perhaps it is in anticipation? I honestly dont know how it works.
http://www.vcpost.com/articles/87060/20150826/android-5-1-lollipop-arrives-samsung-galaxy-note-4-handsets.htm

dave30534 said:
Wont be long now I hope. I noticed most every app I own has updated in the past 2 days. Perhaps it is in anticipation? I honestly dont know how it works.
http://www.vcpost.com/articles/87060/20150826/android-5-1-lollipop-arrives-samsung-galaxy-note-4-handsets.htm
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I don't think play store apps have anything to do with '5.1.1' pushed by Verizon.

patt2k said:
I don't think play store apps have anything to do with '5.1.1' pushed by Verizon.
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Perhaps, but it seemed weird all of them updated within 2 days (41 apps) go figure. Dunno .

dave30534 said:
Perhaps, but it seemed weird all of them updated within 2 days (41 apps) go figure. Dunno .
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Yea man pretty sure apps being updated don't mean much it's tough to say when we will have on VZW &AT&T models 5.1.1 I hope soon.