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[Q] Samsung Galaxy Ace IIx GT-S7560m

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Blaster3K said:
Hello eh!
I just purchased the "Virgin mobile" Samsung Galaxy Ace IIx GT-S7560m to replace my faulty HTC EVO 3D (unlocked not rooted)
phone. I know I know it is a downgrade however, for what I need it for it is fine. Except.... for... ONE..... MAJOR...... PROBLEM!!!
I cannot move any apps to the SDCARD?? I have tired an adb method on another site (message me I guess to get URL) to no avail (its dated I know) . I have searched and looked around however I am confused at what tutorial I should follow and use? I decided to post and ask the knowledgeable beings here. If I can root this phone perfect!!! If not is there any information anyone can give me in regards to this problem.
*update*
Playing with it more and reading the specs on Virgins Canadian website
the unit has "Enhanced Memory: 4GB ROM + 6Gb RAM"?????
I have a 16GB SD card in and that is just being used for my music currently
as I cannot directly copy anything to it..... It seems this unit is really "locked down"
is this "virtual" memory? I am starting to think the unit has no real HARDWARE ram
just a page file type ram, like using a usb stick for ready boost. Also I cannot install
anything unless its on play store.... thinking I may have to return it?
Anyone want to take a stab at this one?
Thanks in advance
Blaster3K
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Can you install apps from the play store? If yes, then please try to install ES Task Manager and post a screenshot or at the least post the information provided by the app on "About Phone"

your phone single core 1mhz ??
it comes with ics right ??
how much ram ??

Messi10 said:
your phone single core 1mhz ??
it comes with ics right ??
how much ram ??
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He says 6GB RAM but i don't it's true. Well anyways, no clear specs on that phone yet. I have my hopes up with the fact that it's running ICS. No clear info on Samsung's website though.

Messi10 said:
your phone single core 1mhz ??
it comes with ics right ??
how much ram ??
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1GB RAM ..
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http://m.samsung.com/ca/consumer/mobile/mobile-phones/smartphones/GT-S7560ZKMBMC-spec
Why that Phone is similar to Mini SIII ? 4.0 inch too :sly:
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Seems Canada ace 2 version..
On samsung Canada site there isnt" gt-i8160)

I uploaded the requested screenshots.
The phone is not that bad at all surprisingly just needs a root method,
even installing UI launcher is hit and miss some install some say "insuffencient storage"
The same error goes for widgets.

Yeah this phone has better hardware than i8160, do you happen to know it's chipset?
As for root method, it seems not so many people own this phone right now. Maybe its possible to make the kernel support CWM as i have read somewhere that there's a guide to do so, haven't tried though.
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Dr01nE said:
Yeah this phone has better hardware than i8160, do you happen to know it's chipset?
As for root method, it seems not so many people own this phone right now. Maybe its possible to make the kernl support CWM as i have read somewhere that there's a guide to do so, haven't tried though.
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i rooted it using 7562 root patch zip file after using oden to install cwm recovery in download mode im no expert but it seemed to work and gave me root access im didnt notice any ill effects thus far
im guessing the zip file is simewhat universal for ics rooting
i decided to use the 7562 tutorial as i
thought the hardware and os rom were very similar to the 7560 here in canada

I will try to do that later and I will post my results.
Hopefully this will work... I am still confused as to memory usage
it says on the virgin site that is has enhanced memory. It is an
odd configuration. Also I have no clue what the GPU is yet
its so new that GSM arena as no specs on it!!
Any links to download all the tools I need that you have used etc?
Thanks in advance!

Blaster3K said:
I will try to do that later and I will post my results.
Hopefully this will work... I am still confused as to memory usage
it says on the virgin site that is has enhanced memory. It is an
odd configuration. Also I have no clue what the GPU is yet
its so new that GSM arena as no specs on it!!
Any links to download all the tools I need that you have used etc?
Thanks in advance!
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its not same with i8160. dont flash any kernel or rom i8160 to your rom.
soc not same.
single core 1ghz
i think its adreno.
and please delete screenshoot with imei.
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How's that going for you?
Hiya.
I am still trying to root this thing without much success - Partly because I was waiting for somebody else to do it this way first - I think part of the problem is that I have found no way to backup the stock GT-S7560M firmware so if I did screw it up I'd be somewhat stuck. There seemed to be an indication that a recovery mode boot (vol-down, home, power) would allow this and a clear cache partition (which is what I really wanted to do originally anyway!) but I can never get that to work.
I guess I will wait a couple of days to discover if you have any disasters, and then try it your way - Any pointers to a nice simple tutorial and fileset?
Thanks.
brock28 said:
i rooted it using 7562 root patch zip file after using oden to install cwm recovery in download mode im no expert but it seemed to work and gave me root access im didnt notice any ill effects thus far
im guessing the zip file is simewhat universal for ics rooting
i decided to use the 7562 tutorial as i
thought the hardware and os rom were very similar to the 7560 here in canada
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Ah I got impatient and did it anyway - It's rooted and happy, the only problem now of course, is the yellow warning triangle. I got myself Chainfire's Triangle Away but that didn't work so I had to do a refund on that (Sorry Chainfire!). Any luck on the counter reset anyone who has rooted this?
Lorry said:
Hiya.
I am still trying to root this thing without much success - Partly because I was waiting for somebody else to do it this way first - I think part of the problem is that I have found no way to backup the stock GT-S7560M firmware so if I did screw it up I'd be somewhat stuck. There seemed to be an indication that a recovery mode boot (vol-down, home, power) would allow this and a clear cache partition (which is what I really wanted to do originally anyway!) but I can never get that to work.
I guess I will wait a couple of days to discover if you have any disasters, and then try it your way - Any pointers to a nice simple tutorial and fileset?
Thanks.
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I am waiting for the jelly bean update then ill try root
I do not want to brick the phone

Ace II, GT-S7560M - rooted but NO triangle away.
Lorry said:
I got myself Chainfire's Triangle Away but that didn't work so I had to do a refund on that (Sorry Chainfire!). Any luck on the counter reset anyone who has rooted this?
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Nope! Same problem here...rooted using SuperSU, flashed CWM 5.0, all seems OK but I've got that annoying triangle showing at every reboot. It's really weird though, when I tried running Triangle Away, it didn't even tried installing the supporting software (as it did on my Note II and S3) and it returned an error right away saying "Could not locate the hidden partition. Are you running ICS?"
On the other hand I would normally just re-initiate the phone through Kies to return to the stock firmware but it seems Samsung didn't bother releasing it yet - not available in Sammobile or anywhere else.

I cannot intsall Antutu benmark or tester keep getting insuffient storage error
this phone is driving me to drink

Blaster3K said:
I cannot intsall Antutu benmark or tester keep getting insuffient storage error
this phone is driving me to drink
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You must have already crammed your phone with "STUFF" or something else is wrong. Installed both Antutu and Velamo without any problems
Antutu - 4044 (although Antutu is less and less trusting)
Velamo - 302
In both cases the GT-S7560M was on the very bottom of the list BUT as always, take those results with a big grain of salt. I did so even in the case of the Note II, shown at the other end of the spectrum - the top. In the end, benchmarks truly mean NOTHING for what one may experience in day to day usage.
For a brand new, $200 phone I believe the GT-S7560M delivers in every aspect.

I think a lot of the space problem is that linking things to the sdcard is just carrying on filling the same memory as it would, had it been on internal memory anyway - The external sdcard (and nicely, I noticed today that it does work with 64gb ones) is mounted as /mnt/extSdCard and not /mnt/sdcard so everything tends to go horribly wrong, and even rooted I haven't yet found an app that gives me a work around to this. Sensibly it seems I should be able to pop some post-boot links in there to fix things, or symlinks from /mnt/sdcard/X -> /mnt/extSdCard/X but this doesn't seem like I should be having to bother to work around some perverse change they have made anyway.
I am from a Sony background, incidentally, so why they are doing this is utterly beyond me.
As for the $200 phone - Actually, Future Shop paid me $100 to take mine away
M.
nacos said:
You must have already crammed your phone with "STUFF" or something else is wrong. Installed both Antutu and Velamo without any problems
Antutu - 4044 (although Antutu is less and less trusting)
Velamo - 302
In both cases the GT-S7560M was on the very bottom of the list BUT as always, take those results with a big grain of salt. I did so even in the case of the Note II, shown at the other end of the spectrum - the top. In the end, benchmarks truly mean NOTHING for what one may experience in day to day usage.
For a brand new, $200 phone I believe the GT-S7560M delivers in every aspect.
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nacos said:
On the other hand I would normally just re-initiate the phone through Kies to return to the stock firmware but it seems Samsung didn't bother releasing it yet - not available in Sammobile or anywhere else.
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Would this keep root though? I seemed to remember in the OTA Rootkeeper notes, there was something about it not keeping root after a Kies update. Mind you I have never even loaded Kies, so I don't have a clue what I am on about in this respect really - I just figured the Rootkeeper people may do.
Anyway if you do ever work out a way around the annoying triangle, do share; though I think I have given up all hopes of any warranty exchanges on this now anyway.

Lorry said:
The external sdcard (and nicely, I noticed today that it does work with 64gb ones) is mounted as /mnt/extSdCard and not /mnt/sdcard so everything tends to go horribly wrong, and even rooted I haven't yet found an app that gives me a work around to this.
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Coming from the Note 2 and before the S3, the extSdCard format doesn't surprise me at all. When I transitioned from the S2 to the S3 I was really pissed for that exact reason BUT regardless, you still shouldn't have that issue with not being able to install Antutu or other large software. Not only that I haven't had any problems with Antutu but I have just finished installing TomTom and it runs nice and smoothly.
Lorry said:
As for the $200 phone - Actually, Future Shop paid me $100 to take mine away
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I guess it's one of the two: you either went with a long term contract OR you had a gun pointed at the guy from Future Shop. When I said $200, I was talking about us, non-robbers, normal citizens, who would be buying the phone outright - because we already have another 3 new phones at home, and therefore there is no such thing as a hardware upgrade available .
Lorry said:
Would this keep root though? I seemed to remember in the OTA Rootkeeper notes, there was something about it not keeping root after a Kies update. Mind you I have never even loaded Kies, so I don't have a clue what I am on about in this respect really - I just figured the Rootkeeper people may do.
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I've done it many times. As long as Kies allows initiation (Tools > Firmware Upgrade and Initiation) you'll certainly get rid of any custom binaries, including root and recovery. I would do a factory reset before the initiation anyway. In other words, YES, you'll loose the root BUT I guess that's why you would go that route.

Coming from the Note 2 and before the S3, the extSdCard format doesn't surprise me at all. When I transitioned from the S2 to the S3 I was really pissed for that exact reason BUT regardless, you still shouldn't have that issue with not being able to install Antutu or other large software. Not only that I haven't had any problems with Antutu but I have just finished installing TomTom and it runs nice and smoothly.
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I have been at war with a Motorola Defy all night - My brain hurts. But anyway, there is someone working on the sdcard thing over on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786014 so that thread is worth a look. I am still on a stock firmware so as yet it's no good for me - But it may be for you.
I guess it's one of the two: you either went with a long term contract OR you had a gun pointed at the guy from Future Shop. When I said $200, I was talking about us, non-robbers, normal citizens, who would be buying the phone outright - because we already have another 3 new phones at home, and therefore there is no such thing as a hardware upgrade available .
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Nope! No firearms involved! They are just desperate to push Koodo's new plans at the moment. They have some pretty good Canada Wide ones, although as long as you aren't going to use lots of voice it's fine to stick with the $30 a month one. The phone costs $150 which goes on the tab but they gave me $100 back at futureshop - So technically it'd only ever cost me $50 to get out of my contract at any time - Nothing long term. I looked for a catch, I couldn't find one - And it's not Rogers!
And now before we get sulked at for not talking about technical stuff, I shall get back on topic...
I've done it many times. As long as Kies allows initiation (Tools > Firmware Upgrade and Initiation) you'll certainly get rid of any custom binaries, including root and recovery. I would do a factory reset before the initiation anyway. In other words, YES, you'll loose the root BUT I guess that's why you would go that route.
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Aaah that's good to know if I ever need to return it for anything! Although most of my phones get dropped in the sea/rivers/off-cliffs well before they are ever allowed to break software wise (hence my battles with the Motorola Defy and the Sony Xperia Active).

4.1.2 with Multi Window coming soon to Canada!

http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/01/14/s...bean-upgrade-will-bring-multi-window-support/
“Samsung Canada announced today the upcoming availability of the latest update for the GALAXY Note II smartphone, which offers Multi Window allowing users to interact with two separate applications simultaneously.
The OS update (Android 4.1.2) gives customers the ability to personalize and customize their smartphone experience and interact with two apps at the same time. Samsung Canada now allows GALAXY Note II customers to change app positions within the Multi Window in addition to having the capability of using Pop Up Video while using Multi Window.
Also, included in this software update is the inclusion of both simplified and traditional Chinese language support. Easily accessible from the device’s settings menu, the software can change the language for most menus and applications and also support handwriting of Chinese characters to be transposed into text.”

Update: Update to come in the next week!

WorldIRC said:
Update: Update to come in the next week!
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Finally they get around to it lol. The guesses as why Samsung Canada delayed though was because of those kernel exploit and possibly the sudden death brick bug as well. So even though they don't say so, hopefully the update includes those fixes.
UGH! My phone still hasn't gotten back from the service center though, dyeing without my Note II, on the upside though It should be returned to me with whatever is the latest firmware so hopefully I see it in the mail by the end of this week and it has the update on it >.<
I was going to do a system dump of whatever firmware they put on it to for others to have but might seem a moot point now if the update goes live to ppl next week. Unless the one I get is a beta build beyond what they release *fingers Crossed* hoping for the best Lol.

grr, i already rooted and now my phone can't recieve OTA updates without me flashing back to stock and wiping the phone. I hope Sammobile gets the new rom when its released so that i can update via ODIN. I noticed that they still don't have the new AT&T update...

Apparently this update improves the already stellar battery life. Anyone with 4.1.2 confirm?

mr mystery said:
Apparently this update improves the already stellar battery life. Anyone with 4.1.2 confirm?
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If it's anything like the ROM I built for mine (using LL7 as a base), yes.

mr mystery said:
Apparently this update improves the already stellar battery life. Anyone with 4.1.2 confirm?
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Wow -- even more battery life!?

WorldIRC said:
Wow -- even more battery life!?
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It's not a huge difference... I mean, you're not going to milk an extra 2 hours out of it or anything, but that being said it doesn't seem to drain quite as fast (tested with a full charge cycle). Again, this is based off of a custom ROM (pretty much stock with the hubs removed since they don't seem to like modified ROM's anyway) using N7105XXDLL7 as a base with a modded Rogers CSC (provides APN settings, a couple of specific tweaks for the network, and the My Account app -- everything else was stripped out). It also seems to fix the issue where screen power saving mode wouldn't immediately turn off if you disabled power saving (animations were a bit sluggish).
As for the official update... we will have to wait and see.

Want the new modem more than the old 4.1.2 they will give us.

Dazog said:
Want the new modem more than the old 4.1.2 they will give us.
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Been waiting for that we are all stuck with crappy LJ2 modem
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My Rogers Note II came back from the shop with LJ5 and Multiwindow. Not realizing it was not released, I rooted without a nandroid backup first before flashing DLL7
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Cant wait
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GR8CDNPumpkin said:
My Rogers Note II came back from the shop with LJ5 and Multiwindow. Not realizing it was not released, I rooted without a nandroid backup first before flashing DLL7
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What is the changeset and build date of the kernel?

This is exactly why Jedi rom is my jam. I highly suggest everyone check out the new version. Comes with rom toolbox built into settings.

GR8CDNPumpkin said:
My Rogers Note II came back from the shop with LJ5 and Multiwindow. Not realizing it was not released, I rooted without a nandroid backup first before flashing DLL7
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So that could be the update for us Rogers users. From LJ2 to LJ5 im hoping its higher like LK7.
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jon3sh said:
So that could be the update for us Rogers users. From LJ2 to LJ5 im hoping its higher like LK7.
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LJ5 was a 4.1.1 build if I remember correctly, and this update is supposed to be 4.1.2.

So I got my phone back from the service center today. It only came loaded with 4.1.1 LJ5 sadly. For some reason the multi-window wouldn't even work either.
Even worse the service center damage my phone and left a gash on the bottom, and they didn't even replace the battery which was the problem in the first place... So now its back off to them to fix the damage they did, just ridiculous...
Hopefully the update coming out next week isn't an old LJ5 Release from an October build that would be insanely retarded.
Supposedly its to be a 4.1.2 release build from December. Here's hoping for it :/

dbzgod said:
So I got my phone back from the service center today. It only came loaded with 4.1.1 LJ5 sadly. For some reason the multi-window wouldn't even work either.
Even worse the service center damage my phone and left a gash on the bottom, and they didn't even replace the battery which was the problem in the first place... So now its back off to them to fix the damage they did, just ridiculous...
Hopefully the update coming out next week isn't an old LJ5 Release from an October build that would be insanely retarded.
Supposedly its to be a 4.1.2 release build from December. Here's hoping for it :/
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What baseband does it have?

Yea I hope we get a LJ7 or something with multi windows AND exynos Fix.

krwkenn said:
What baseband does it have?
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Didn't look, was too busy being pissed at Samsung for the damage to my phone. So beyond the about section on my phone I didn't look at anything else.
I've already made a ticket with them, and its been sent off to them again. Wasn't thinking about other information or dumping files.
@Dazog
If its supposed to a 4.1.2 release it wont be an LJ(number or letter) release, the J in the firmware = October build, if its a December 4.1.2 release it will be an LL something release. A lot of the international Note II's released with LL4 so I'm expecting that one or an later build. Just half to wait and see >.<

Easy trick to get a new S4 from T Mobile without KNOX bootloader!

If you are planning on getting a new one of these at a T Mobile store, DO NOT boot it up normally, even to set up a new SIM. Tell them you want to power it up first without a SIM and then do the following:
Boot into recovery and choose factory reset, then follow by wiping the cache.
These phones have been restickered to include Android 4.3 and KNOX, but on first start it will start updating android from the cache because it is still the original stock 4.22 without the KNOX bootloader.
I just did this yesterday because my previous one dropped and the LCD broke, so I needed a new one. I already had a SIM so instead of having them set it up, I did it myself. On first bootup with the back cover still off, I saw it updating so I immediately pulled the battery to stop it. I then booted into recovery and did the factory reset and cleaned the cache. Happiness followed when I saw it was indeed Android 4.22 with SELinux as permissive. Of course from there I immediately used ODIN to perform the CF Auto Root, update SuperSu pro and install my favorite root apps
I figured there might be a few people here who might want to know this little trick.

good tips. Thank you

This could come in handy thanks

Wait.... Did it go into recovery? If not it wasn't updating.... If you're talking about the "Android is upgrading" and x of x that was your cache building....
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Wait.... Did it go into recovery? If not it wasn't updating.... If you're talking about the "Android is upgrading" and x of x that was your cache building....
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Good question I didn't think of that.

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Wait.... Did it go into recovery? If not it wasn't updating.... If you're talking about the "Android is upgrading" and x of x that was your cache building....
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If you let that updating finish you will end up with 4.3 ( and the KNOX garbage) and it will be too late to go back to the original 4.22 without the KNOX bootloader. A friend of mine just bought one for his kid yesterday and that's what happened. This kid really wanted his new phone set up like mine is. I went back there later in the day with him and said the internet wasn't working properly and we did an exchange. I told the lady at the store we were short on time and to just pull the SIM and put it in the box with new phone and I will set it up for him later. We got back to the house and I did the factory reset and cache wipe in recovery before starting it up normally. Confirmed he now has 4.22 and SELinux permissive like I do. My friend doesn't know these phones like I do, so it is good that his son has the same Android version that I do so I can help him if there is problems, especially since many employees at the T Mobile stores are clueless and or course I was the one that rooted it and set it up.
Ha, I did not put Android Tuner by C2 on it though because of what that app can do.

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If you let that updating finish you will end up with 4.3 ( and the KNOX garbage) and it will be too late to go back to the original 4.22 without the KNOX bootloader. A friend of mine just bought one for his kid yesterday and that's what happened. This kid really wanted his new phone set up like mine is. I went back there later in the day with him and said the internet wasn't working properly and we did an exchange. I told the lady at the store we were short on time and to just pull the SIM and put it in the box with new phone and I will set it up for him later. We got back to the house and I did the factory reset and cache wipe in recovery before starting it up normally. Confirmed he now has 4.22 and SELinux permissive like I do. My friend doesn't know these phones like I do, so it is good that his son has the same Android version that I do so I can help him if there is problems, especially since many employees at the T Mobile stores are clueless and or course I was the one that rooted it and set it up.
Ha, I did not put Android Tuner by C2 on it though because of what that app can do.
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my update finished and I don't have knox...
If you booted directly into recovery without turning the phone on completely, how would you even know if it had knox or not? not all are shipping with the 4.3 update.

HTCMDA said:
my update finished and I don't have knox...
If you booted directly into recovery without turning the phone on completely, how would you even know if it had knox or not? not all are shipping with the 4.3 update.
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Please reread what you just quoted me as saying. I will add that all 3 devices came from the same T Mobile store that had only the newer restickered boxes with the 4.3 update. When replacing mine I specifically asked if they had any without the update and they said they didn't because all they had was boxes with the new stickers.
The first one my friends kid got went through the update, and I saw the 4.3 version in " About Device" before we returned it, although I did not actually look for KNOX. The second one was 4.22 when I did the recovery trick which confirmed my suspicion.
The OP was about the one I replaced for myself, and I just acted on a hunch when I first booted up and saw " Android is updating" and stopped it.

Nice and very quick reaction time, maybe you could get dual wielding.
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....I just did this on a replacement phone and it did not work. Booted straight into recovery, wiped cache and did a factory reset with no luck as to what the OP is claiming here.
Phone still has 4.3

He said he got a new boxed s4 from the store not a replacement that was sent to him. Also the boxes with stickers may have been left over stock already manufactured with 4.2 but has been sent the ota update wich kicks in when booted up. Eventually Samsung will manufactur the update in house. Any refurbished ones will already be updated in house as well.
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gamepr said:
....I just did this on a replacement phone and it did not work. Booted straight into recovery, wiped cache and did a factory reset with no luck as to what the OP is claiming here.
Phone still has 4.3
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Nope, all the replacement phones sent to you are refurbished units and already updated before they are sent. This trick he's saying only applies to brand new phones that were manufactured before the 4.3 update (which might not be available for much longer).

Exactly what scooter247 and Yo_2T said. The reason I posted this topic is because time is limited so I wanted to get the word out. Some locations it might already be too late.

Sorry if this isn't a stupid question, is warranty and downgrading the only reason to not update to 4.3 ota touchwiz?
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I bought a new Galaxy s4 (white) 4 days ago. The rep set it up at T-Mobile store with Sim installed and were still Android 4.2.2 out of the box. He say only if you guys click on system updates in the settings but I told him not to because I don't want Knox stuffs.

Good job for finding this. I don't plan to get a new s4 or whatever until the s5 is out and you bet your ass that knox crap would already be there
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futty said:
Good job for finding this. I don't plan to get a new s4 or whatever until the s5 is out and you bet your ass that knox crap would already be there
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Haha I was wondering if the s5 came out and this worked it would be great.
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Haha I was wondering if the s5 came out and this worked it would be great.
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It won't because when the S5 comes out it will be released with a higher Android version. This already applies to the Note 3 as it shipped with 4.3.

It worked!...just got my wife a S4 and I made it boot 4.2. 2 the first time...now after TWRP and Darkstalker its back to 4.3 w/o knox. So it seems they are still S4s with 4.2.2 avialable. Wish I could of done that to my Note 3. Thx buddy for the tip.
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Got my S4 replacement in the mail today. Before even booting up I did the few steps mentioned in the OP and no luck. Powered phone on to see 4.3 mk2. Seems as they are shipping with the update already completed. At least in my case. I guess ill be triggering KNOX from here on.

[SM-T217A] Success with SRSRoot?

Any AT&T SM-T217A users here successfully obtain root via Srsroot on their tabs? They dropped a tweet a month ago that it was supported @ 4.4.2, but it's not sticking for me..

geokhentix said:
Any AT&T SM-T217A users here successfully obtain root via Srsroot on their tabs? They dropped a tweet a month ago that it was supported @ 4.4.2, but it's not sticking for me..
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Nope. I tried that one out as soon as it posted. Here is the thread discussing http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/help/root-sma-4-4-2-t2902677

bigdawg6183 said:
Nope. I tried that one out as soon as it posted. Here is the thread discussing http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/help/root-sma-4-4-2-t2902677
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These T217As I bought are turning out to be the worst experience I have ever had with a decent device. The specs and the battery life are great, but AT&T (or samsung?) has lost their mind. Out of my two tabs (both set up identical) Only one was ever eligible for the 4.4.2 upgrade. The second says no upgrade when I check for one.
The one I did upgrade was so bad on 4.4.2 that I ended up trying to flash back to 4.2.2 before I realized I couldn't and bricked the tab.
2 months later, still no upgrade available for my second tab (probably a good thing except I wanted to try an app that says it can catch the firmware update to use on my bricked tab). Still no 4.4.2 firmware to be found on the internet to download for this device.
The worst part is it doesn't even seem to be available from kies. Kies 3 doesn't even recognize it as a 4.4.2 device anymore after the attempted downgrade and the other kies versions only offer 4.2.2 which the device won't let me flash.

rmntruexjr said:
These T217As I bought are turning out to be the worst experience I have ever had with a decent device. The specs and the battery life are great, but AT&T (or samsung?) has lost their mind. Out of my two tabs (both set up identical) Only one was ever eligible for the 4.4.2 upgrade. The second says no upgrade when I check for one.
The one I did upgrade was so bad on 4.4.2 that I ended up trying to flash back to 4.2.2 before I realized I couldn't and bricked the tab.
2 months later, still no upgrade available for my second tab (probably a good thing except I wanted to try an app that says it can catch the firmware update to use on my bricked tab). Still no 4.4.2 firmware to be found on the internet to download for this device.
The worst part is it doesn't even seem to be available from kies. Kies 3 doesn't even recognize it as a 4.4.2 device anymore after the attempted downgrade and the other kies versions only offer 4.2.2 which the device won't let me flash.
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I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?

bigdawg6183 said:
I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?
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If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..

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If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..
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bigdawg6183 said:
I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?
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I just now saw your post. When I get back home I'll take a screenshot. It's set up identical to the one I upgraded and bricked. Rooted with kingo, installed the tweaks for this tab from development (KoolKit) and using a few xposed modules to change some notification/statusbar icons..Not much else you can do to these things, and if I had to guess, the only difference between the two would maybe be different versions of the KoolKit tweaks.
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If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..
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I wish it was that easy, but I ditched AT&T years ago and went to straight talk. These tabs I purchased second hand.

rmntruexjr said:
I just now saw your post. When I get back home I'll take a screenshot. It's set up identical to the one I upgraded and bricked. Rooted with kingo, installed the tweaks for this tab from development (KoolKit) and using a few xposed modules to change some notification/statusbar icons..Not much else you can do to these things, and if I had to guess, the only difference between the two would maybe be different versions of the KoolKit tweaks.
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No worries mate. Hmmm, if it was root that was stopping the update from showing it should have been the case on both tabs. Plus, mine was originally rooted when I searched for the update and it found it fine. You do definitely have to remove root to successfully update to 4.4, which totally blows, but with the SD card changes that came out in 4.4 I had to do it.

Canadian Note 7 - Root

Hey all, does anyone have a link to a guide to root the Canadian Note 7 (SM-N930W8) - Snapdragon model.
The device should have a unlocked bootloader. Any help appreciated. Thank you

Anton2007 said:
Hey all, does anyone have a link to a guide to root the Canadian Note 7 (SM-N930W8) - Snapdragon model.
The device should have a unlocked bootloader. Any help appreciated. Thank you
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The first units out up here have a locked bootloader. I would imagine the replacements do too. There was an engineering firmware from Sprint that you could flash to get root, but I'm not sure what happens after you're on it.. i.e. I don't think you can get off of it (at least easily), no recovery, no custom ROMs, etc..
There are a number of users who returned their W8 Note7 and bought a F or FD model, as the Exynos variant has an unlocked bootloader, recovery, root, etc..

arcane613 said:
The first units out up here have a locked bootloader. I would imagine the replacements do too. There was an engineering firmware from Sprint that you could flash to get root, but I'm not sure what happens after you're on it.. i.e. I don't think you can get off of it (at least easily), no recovery, no custom ROMs, etc..
There are a number of users who returned their W8 Note7 and bought a F or FD model, as the Exynos variant has an unlocked bootloader, recovery, root, etc..
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I thought Canadian units always had an unlocked bootloader? In development options I see OEM Unlock.

Anton2007 said:
I thought Canadian units always had an unlocked bootloader? In development options I see OEM Unlock.
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I wish. I also have a W8 Note7. So far I've decided to keep it, although it hasn't been exchanged yet (registered, but coral blue and waiting forever). I may sell it and get a F or FD variant once known good ones are easily available.. or may get something else.. who knows..
For reference, see THIS post for the steps about the engineering bootloader/firmware. Feel free to read through that thread, but from everything I've read the bootloader is truly locked on our devices.
Oh, OEM unlock is a feature added in lollipop. As far as I know it's a standard feature and doesn't reflect the actual ability to unlock the bootloader. Disabling it can remove the FRP lock though.. Yes, I do know you need to use that when flashing ROMs, I had a HTC 10, S7 Edge (W8 Exynos model), and many other Androids before, and I rooted every single one of them. This is the first device I haven't, which is why I'm on the fence..

arcane613 said:
I wish. I also have a W8 Note7. So far I've decided to keep it, although it hasn't been exchanged yet (registered, but coral blue and waiting forever). I may sell it and get a F or FD variant once known good ones are easily available.. or may get something else.. who knows..
For reference, see THIS post for the steps about the engineering bootloader/firmware. Feel free to read through that thread, but from everything I've read the bootloader is truly locked on our devices.
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Ah, that sucks. I've never had a rooting any other devices, my old Note 5 had root. Weird...

Anton2007 said:
Ah, that sucks. I've never had a rooting any other devices, my old Note 5 had root. Weird...
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Yeah, I hear ya. It's a first for Sammy in Canada, at least with a W8 variant..

Anton2007 said:
Hey all, does anyone have a link to a guide to root the Canadian Note 7 (SM-N930W8) - Snapdragon model.
The device should have a unlocked bootloader. Any help appreciated. Thank you
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Unlocked bootloader? Dude....where have you been lol?
Ditch the snapdragon and go exynos as mentioned....only way to go with a note 7 if you want the usual root, twrp like the note 5.
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force70 said:
Unlocked bootloader? Dude....where have you been lol?
Ditch the snapdragon and go exynos as mentioned....only way to go with a note 7 if you want the usual root, twrp like the note 5.
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Guess I've just assumed it was unlocked. Honestly this phone has been a pain in the ass since I got it, was hoping to fix some things up with root and don't really want to go through the hassle of getting an Exynos version. Where would I grab one from anyway?

Anton2007 said:
Guess I've just assumed it was unlocked. Honestly this phone has been a pain in the ass since I got it, was hoping to fix some things up with root and don't really want to go through the hassle of getting an Exynos version. Where would I grab one from anyway?
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Lots of guys got them via ebay, a few of us got them local at a store here in toronto.
Amazon would also be an option
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force70 said:
Lots of guys got them via ebay, a few of us got them local at a store here in toronto.
Amazon would also be an option
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That's not a bad idea. Do you think Bell will refund my replacement Note 7? Also, what store in Toronto, I'm fairly close to there

Anton2007 said:
That's not a bad idea. Do you think Bell will refund my replacement Note 7? Also, what store in Toronto, I'm fairly close to there
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Can't say about bell....
The store is swiftronics.
I would hold off on buying though until battery gate blows over...they dont have any new stock yet anyway. We are all waiting on them to replace our FD units with updated versions.
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Just use the Spring Userdebug root and you will be good to go. Instructions are pretty basic. I have the N930W8 as well. The advantage is that you dont void your warranty or trip knox, but then you are stuck on an unchangablr kernel and cannot flash roms/kernels until someone decides to include the system.img and old kernel in their roms, which would be a lost cause, since maybe 3 people have rooted their canadian note 7's xD
BTW, can anyone help me out with systemui? I flashed the modded systemui that includes rom control, and can no longer use samsungs interaction control, which I absolutely need. Please help me out with possibly a zip I can flash that resets systemui to stock?

imatts said:
Just use the Spring Userdebug root and you will be good to go. Instructions are pretty basic. I have the N930W8 as well. The advantage is that you dont void your warranty or trip knox, but then you are stuck on an unchangablr kernel and cannot flash roms/kernels until someone decides to include the system.img and old kernel in their roms, which would be a lost cause, since maybe 3 people have rooted their canadian note 7's xD
BTW, can anyone help me out with systemui? I flashed the modded systemui that includes rom control, and can no longer use samsungs interaction control, which I absolutely need. Please help me out with possibly a zip I can flash that resets systemui to stock?
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You cannot use that on the new firmware for anyone who got the update.
The OP is on a replacement device so he def cannot use it.
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force70 said:
You cannot use that on the new firmware for anyone who got the update.
The OP is on a replacement device so he def cannot use it.
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I used this on my original Note 7 as well as the replacement.
I got my replacement last friday, the phone was said to be manufactured Sep 6th, but I was definitely able to flash sprints userdebug on my new replacement..
I'm running it now, and its actually doing much better than the older device. Much much snappier and longer lasting.
Then again, you mentioned an update, and I usually avoid such things so I hadnt noticed any update. Could you ellaborate on that please? With some links if you can? ^.^

imatts said:
I used this on my original Note 7 as well as the replacement.
I got my replacement last friday, the phone was said to be manufactured Sep 6th, but I was definitely able to flash sprints userdebug on my new replacement..
I'm running it now, and its actually doing much better than the older device. Much much snappier and longer lasting.
Then again, you mentioned an update, and I usually avoid such things so I hadnt noticed any update. Could you ellaborate on that please? With some links if you can? ^.^
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You must have got the device rooted before it updated....nice one!
The new firmware which gives the fixed devices the green battery icon and bad ones a big fat warning to turn the device in. And in some cases limits the charging to 60% tops.
I have all my update crap turned off so avoided it and some like you got lucky..others the damn phone updated immediately and others it came with the firmware.
You cannot odin the previous firmware either..its blocked. And there is no root for it even on unlocked bootloader devices like my dual sim exynos
Its all over the forums bro, easy to find more info but thats the overview of it.
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force70 said:
You must have got the device rooted before it updated....nice one!
The new firmware which gives the fixed devices the green battery icon and bad ones a big fat warning to turn the device in. And in some cases limits the charging to 60% tops.
I have all my update crap turned off so avoided it and some like you got lucky..others the damn phone updated immediately and others it came with the firmware.
You cannot odin the previous firmware either..its blocked. And there is no root for it even on unlocked bootloader devices like my dual sim exynos
Its all over the forums bro, easy to find more info but thats the overview of it.
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Whaat thats absolute bull that Samsung would do this.
I'm super thankful I blocked the update services with Package Disabler right away then.. I didnt even intend to do it, but I figured I would just in case. I have to reflash the userdebug again though, theres no way it would auto update right?

imatts said:
Whaat thats absolute bull that Samsung would do this.
I'm super thankful I blocked the update services with Package Disabler right away then.. I didnt even intend to do it, but I figured I would just in case. I have to reflash the userdebug again though, theres no way it would auto update right?
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It shouldn't especially now that your rooted, im not even rooted but have auto update off and also used package disabler and havent had a hint of an OTA thank god.
I dont like It either but under the circumstances i do understand why they would force an OTA like this.
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force70 said:
It shouldn't especially now that your rooted, im not even rooted but have auto update off and also used package disabler and havent had a hint of an OTA thank god.
I dont like It either but under the circumstances i do understand why they would force an OTA like this.
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How come unlocked bootloaders are not rootable?. . There is a dr ketan rom based on safe battery issue

force70 said:
It shouldn't especially now that your rooted, im not even rooted but have auto update off and also used package disabler and havent had a hint of an OTA thank god.
I dont like It either but under the circumstances i do understand why they would force an OTA like this.
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Just managed to reflash sprint userdebug and root again (on the replacement). I was sketching out hard during the setup, saying to myself over and over "oh my god please dont auto update".
Thanks for all your help! Sucks that the Note 7 is essentially dead now, considering only very little people will have a rooted note 7.

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How come unlocked bootloaders are not rootable?. . There is a dr ketan rom based on safe battery issue
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Lol.....just now there is....there was not up until when i went to bed last night. Looks like Dr Ketan found a way around it by not having to flash the new bootloader.
This is what our talented developers do...find ways sround samsung screwing us....god bless them :thumbup:
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