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Blaster3K said:
Hello eh!
I just purchased the "Virgin mobile" Samsung Galaxy Ace IIx GT-S7560m to replace my faulty HTC EVO 3D (unlocked not rooted)
phone. I know I know it is a downgrade however, for what I need it for it is fine. Except.... for... ONE..... MAJOR...... PROBLEM!!!
I cannot move any apps to the SDCARD?? I have tired an adb method on another site (message me I guess to get URL) to no avail (its dated I know) . I have searched and looked around however I am confused at what tutorial I should follow and use? I decided to post and ask the knowledgeable beings here. If I can root this phone perfect!!! If not is there any information anyone can give me in regards to this problem.
*update*
Playing with it more and reading the specs on Virgins Canadian website
the unit has "Enhanced Memory: 4GB ROM + 6Gb RAM"?????
I have a 16GB SD card in and that is just being used for my music currently
as I cannot directly copy anything to it..... It seems this unit is really "locked down"
is this "virtual" memory? I am starting to think the unit has no real HARDWARE ram
just a page file type ram, like using a usb stick for ready boost. Also I cannot install
anything unless its on play store.... thinking I may have to return it?
Anyone want to take a stab at this one?
Thanks in advance
Blaster3K
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Can you install apps from the play store? If yes, then please try to install ES Task Manager and post a screenshot or at the least post the information provided by the app on "About Phone"
your phone single core 1mhz ??
it comes with ics right ??
how much ram ??
Messi10 said:
your phone single core 1mhz ??
it comes with ics right ??
how much ram ??
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He says 6GB RAM but i don't it's true. Well anyways, no clear specs on that phone yet. I have my hopes up with the fact that it's running ICS. No clear info on Samsung's website though.
Messi10 said:
your phone single core 1mhz ??
it comes with ics right ??
how much ram ??
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1GB RAM ..
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http://m.samsung.com/ca/consumer/mobile/mobile-phones/smartphones/GT-S7560ZKMBMC-spec
Why that Phone is similar to Mini SIII ? 4.0 inch too :sly:
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Seems Canada ace 2 version..
On samsung Canada site there isnt" gt-i8160)
I uploaded the requested screenshots.
The phone is not that bad at all surprisingly just needs a root method,
even installing UI launcher is hit and miss some install some say "insuffencient storage"
The same error goes for widgets.
Yeah this phone has better hardware than i8160, do you happen to know it's chipset?
As for root method, it seems not so many people own this phone right now. Maybe its possible to make the kernel support CWM as i have read somewhere that there's a guide to do so, haven't tried though.
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Dr01nE said:
Yeah this phone has better hardware than i8160, do you happen to know it's chipset?
As for root method, it seems not so many people own this phone right now. Maybe its possible to make the kernl support CWM as i have read somewhere that there's a guide to do so, haven't tried though.
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i rooted it using 7562 root patch zip file after using oden to install cwm recovery in download mode im no expert but it seemed to work and gave me root access im didnt notice any ill effects thus far
im guessing the zip file is simewhat universal for ics rooting
i decided to use the 7562 tutorial as i
thought the hardware and os rom were very similar to the 7560 here in canada
I will try to do that later and I will post my results.
Hopefully this will work... I am still confused as to memory usage
it says on the virgin site that is has enhanced memory. It is an
odd configuration. Also I have no clue what the GPU is yet
its so new that GSM arena as no specs on it!!
Any links to download all the tools I need that you have used etc?
Thanks in advance!
Blaster3K said:
I will try to do that later and I will post my results.
Hopefully this will work... I am still confused as to memory usage
it says on the virgin site that is has enhanced memory. It is an
odd configuration. Also I have no clue what the GPU is yet
its so new that GSM arena as no specs on it!!
Any links to download all the tools I need that you have used etc?
Thanks in advance!
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Antutu Benchmark can give the GPU and other info on the "i" tab then select system info
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its not same with i8160. dont flash any kernel or rom i8160 to your rom.
soc not same.
single core 1ghz
i think its adreno.
and please delete screenshoot with imei.
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How's that going for you?
Hiya.
I am still trying to root this thing without much success - Partly because I was waiting for somebody else to do it this way first - I think part of the problem is that I have found no way to backup the stock GT-S7560M firmware so if I did screw it up I'd be somewhat stuck. There seemed to be an indication that a recovery mode boot (vol-down, home, power) would allow this and a clear cache partition (which is what I really wanted to do originally anyway!) but I can never get that to work.
I guess I will wait a couple of days to discover if you have any disasters, and then try it your way - Any pointers to a nice simple tutorial and fileset?
Thanks.
brock28 said:
i rooted it using 7562 root patch zip file after using oden to install cwm recovery in download mode im no expert but it seemed to work and gave me root access im didnt notice any ill effects thus far
im guessing the zip file is simewhat universal for ics rooting
i decided to use the 7562 tutorial as i
thought the hardware and os rom were very similar to the 7560 here in canada
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Ah I got impatient and did it anyway - It's rooted and happy, the only problem now of course, is the yellow warning triangle. I got myself Chainfire's Triangle Away but that didn't work so I had to do a refund on that (Sorry Chainfire!). Any luck on the counter reset anyone who has rooted this?
Lorry said:
Hiya.
I am still trying to root this thing without much success - Partly because I was waiting for somebody else to do it this way first - I think part of the problem is that I have found no way to backup the stock GT-S7560M firmware so if I did screw it up I'd be somewhat stuck. There seemed to be an indication that a recovery mode boot (vol-down, home, power) would allow this and a clear cache partition (which is what I really wanted to do originally anyway!) but I can never get that to work.
I guess I will wait a couple of days to discover if you have any disasters, and then try it your way - Any pointers to a nice simple tutorial and fileset?
Thanks.
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I am waiting for the jelly bean update then ill try root
I do not want to brick the phone
Ace II, GT-S7560M - rooted but NO triangle away.
Lorry said:
I got myself Chainfire's Triangle Away but that didn't work so I had to do a refund on that (Sorry Chainfire!). Any luck on the counter reset anyone who has rooted this?
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Nope! Same problem here...rooted using SuperSU, flashed CWM 5.0, all seems OK but I've got that annoying triangle showing at every reboot. It's really weird though, when I tried running Triangle Away, it didn't even tried installing the supporting software (as it did on my Note II and S3) and it returned an error right away saying "Could not locate the hidden partition. Are you running ICS?"
On the other hand I would normally just re-initiate the phone through Kies to return to the stock firmware but it seems Samsung didn't bother releasing it yet - not available in Sammobile or anywhere else.
I cannot intsall Antutu benmark or tester keep getting insuffient storage error
this phone is driving me to drink
Blaster3K said:
I cannot intsall Antutu benmark or tester keep getting insuffient storage error
this phone is driving me to drink
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You must have already crammed your phone with "STUFF" or something else is wrong. Installed both Antutu and Velamo without any problems
Antutu - 4044 (although Antutu is less and less trusting)
Velamo - 302
In both cases the GT-S7560M was on the very bottom of the list BUT as always, take those results with a big grain of salt. I did so even in the case of the Note II, shown at the other end of the spectrum - the top. In the end, benchmarks truly mean NOTHING for what one may experience in day to day usage.
For a brand new, $200 phone I believe the GT-S7560M delivers in every aspect.
I think a lot of the space problem is that linking things to the sdcard is just carrying on filling the same memory as it would, had it been on internal memory anyway - The external sdcard (and nicely, I noticed today that it does work with 64gb ones) is mounted as /mnt/extSdCard and not /mnt/sdcard so everything tends to go horribly wrong, and even rooted I haven't yet found an app that gives me a work around to this. Sensibly it seems I should be able to pop some post-boot links in there to fix things, or symlinks from /mnt/sdcard/X -> /mnt/extSdCard/X but this doesn't seem like I should be having to bother to work around some perverse change they have made anyway.
I am from a Sony background, incidentally, so why they are doing this is utterly beyond me.
As for the $200 phone - Actually, Future Shop paid me $100 to take mine away
M.
nacos said:
You must have already crammed your phone with "STUFF" or something else is wrong. Installed both Antutu and Velamo without any problems
Antutu - 4044 (although Antutu is less and less trusting)
Velamo - 302
In both cases the GT-S7560M was on the very bottom of the list BUT as always, take those results with a big grain of salt. I did so even in the case of the Note II, shown at the other end of the spectrum - the top. In the end, benchmarks truly mean NOTHING for what one may experience in day to day usage.
For a brand new, $200 phone I believe the GT-S7560M delivers in every aspect.
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nacos said:
On the other hand I would normally just re-initiate the phone through Kies to return to the stock firmware but it seems Samsung didn't bother releasing it yet - not available in Sammobile or anywhere else.
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Would this keep root though? I seemed to remember in the OTA Rootkeeper notes, there was something about it not keeping root after a Kies update. Mind you I have never even loaded Kies, so I don't have a clue what I am on about in this respect really - I just figured the Rootkeeper people may do.
Anyway if you do ever work out a way around the annoying triangle, do share; though I think I have given up all hopes of any warranty exchanges on this now anyway.
Lorry said:
The external sdcard (and nicely, I noticed today that it does work with 64gb ones) is mounted as /mnt/extSdCard and not /mnt/sdcard so everything tends to go horribly wrong, and even rooted I haven't yet found an app that gives me a work around to this.
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Coming from the Note 2 and before the S3, the extSdCard format doesn't surprise me at all. When I transitioned from the S2 to the S3 I was really pissed for that exact reason BUT regardless, you still shouldn't have that issue with not being able to install Antutu or other large software. Not only that I haven't had any problems with Antutu but I have just finished installing TomTom and it runs nice and smoothly.
Lorry said:
As for the $200 phone - Actually, Future Shop paid me $100 to take mine away
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I guess it's one of the two: you either went with a long term contract OR you had a gun pointed at the guy from Future Shop. When I said $200, I was talking about us, non-robbers, normal citizens, who would be buying the phone outright - because we already have another 3 new phones at home, and therefore there is no such thing as a hardware upgrade available .
Lorry said:
Would this keep root though? I seemed to remember in the OTA Rootkeeper notes, there was something about it not keeping root after a Kies update. Mind you I have never even loaded Kies, so I don't have a clue what I am on about in this respect really - I just figured the Rootkeeper people may do.
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I've done it many times. As long as Kies allows initiation (Tools > Firmware Upgrade and Initiation) you'll certainly get rid of any custom binaries, including root and recovery. I would do a factory reset before the initiation anyway. In other words, YES, you'll loose the root BUT I guess that's why you would go that route.
Coming from the Note 2 and before the S3, the extSdCard format doesn't surprise me at all. When I transitioned from the S2 to the S3 I was really pissed for that exact reason BUT regardless, you still shouldn't have that issue with not being able to install Antutu or other large software. Not only that I haven't had any problems with Antutu but I have just finished installing TomTom and it runs nice and smoothly.
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I have been at war with a Motorola Defy all night - My brain hurts. But anyway, there is someone working on the sdcard thing over on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786014 so that thread is worth a look. I am still on a stock firmware so as yet it's no good for me - But it may be for you.
I guess it's one of the two: you either went with a long term contract OR you had a gun pointed at the guy from Future Shop. When I said $200, I was talking about us, non-robbers, normal citizens, who would be buying the phone outright - because we already have another 3 new phones at home, and therefore there is no such thing as a hardware upgrade available .
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Nope! No firearms involved! They are just desperate to push Koodo's new plans at the moment. They have some pretty good Canada Wide ones, although as long as you aren't going to use lots of voice it's fine to stick with the $30 a month one. The phone costs $150 which goes on the tab but they gave me $100 back at futureshop - So technically it'd only ever cost me $50 to get out of my contract at any time - Nothing long term. I looked for a catch, I couldn't find one - And it's not Rogers!
And now before we get sulked at for not talking about technical stuff, I shall get back on topic...
I've done it many times. As long as Kies allows initiation (Tools > Firmware Upgrade and Initiation) you'll certainly get rid of any custom binaries, including root and recovery. I would do a factory reset before the initiation anyway. In other words, YES, you'll loose the root BUT I guess that's why you would go that route.
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Aaah that's good to know if I ever need to return it for anything! Although most of my phones get dropped in the sea/rivers/off-cliffs well before they are ever allowed to break software wise (hence my battles with the Motorola Defy and the Sony Xperia Active).
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....Lagging a lot....
Hello guys,
I've been lurking around the forum learning things on my own. I bought a Galaxy S 8GB 4 days back on a contract from O2.
the phone is awesome, and all.. but after installing few games and apps, I have come to see that the phone lags a lot. It became unresponsive and I had to soft reset the phone many times to get it working properly.
I then hard reset the phone on day 3 (yesterday) and now the phone's running a bit better. I installed a few apps and Fancy Widget, and the phone became very slow again. I uninstalled Fancy Widget and the phone became a bit fast, but still lags at times.
I feel like throwing the phone at wall.
Why is this lag happening and what do I do to minimise/eliminate this lag?
cheers!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725194
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
is the best solution today
JG5 + root + AutoKiller(Strict setting+) gave me great results.
Memory card fix isnt much faster. Im not sure about the quadrant benchmark, I had 1600~ but the phone felt the same.
personally im waiting for samsung to release an official firmware. i can't backup my original firmware and the rom is released nowhere, so my only choice is to wait until i can flash an official firmware to keep my warranty.
im not sure how these unofficial firmwares are created/named/released but the naming structure would suggest leaked beta firmwares from samsung themselves. the phones not that bad for me at the moment hopefully froyo fixes the little issues going around.
correct me if im wrong.
OrionTC said:
personally im waiting for samsung to release an official firmware. i can't backup my original firmware and the rom is released nowhere, so my only choice is to wait until i can flash an official firmware to keep my warranty.
im not sure how these unofficial firmwares are created/named/released but the naming structure would suggest leaked beta firmwares from samsung themselves. the phones not that bad for me at the moment hopefully froyo fixes the little issues going around.
correct me if im wrong.
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The official firmware can be found:
http://www.samsung-firmware.webs.com/
lenrek said:
The official firmware can be found:
http://www.samsung-firmware.webs.com/
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Im one of the users with the I9000XXJF3 firmware and currently i can't find a backup for this. i see JF1 JF2 and JF7 on that site.
i know im not alone with this and a few people have asked if its possible to create a backup of their firmware but as far as i know none of the threads have been fully answered.
OrionTC said:
Im one of the users with the I9000XXJF3 firmware and currently i can't find a backup for this. i see JF1 JF2 and JF7 on that site.
i know im not alone with this and a few people have asked if its possible to create a backup of their firmware but as far as i know none of the threads have been fully answered.
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If I read the version correctly, according to the description found here.
You are using:
I9000XXJF3
XX - Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Spain, United Kingdom
J - 2010
F - June
3 - Version 3
So, the I9000XXJF7 should be the latest official firmware version for your phone.
I forgot...
Why not try the suggestion here:
[TUT] How To Create DUMP out of Stock Rom
EDIT: Did not read the content of the thread, after read it, maybe is not what you are looking for.
Hmm, im just a little cautious, call me paranoid but surely official firmwares would be released via OTA/samsung website/Kias(whatever its called).
and yes i posted in that thread hoping it was what i was looking for but no lol.
i do agree with you that I9000XXJF7 is "my" latest firmware, but i dont think its officially from samsung.
id be happy if someone can prove me wrong so i can finally flash to JG5
the samsung-firmwares.com site is not an official one, but everyone gets their FW's from there. just flash a custom rom and you should be fine.
DocRambone said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725194
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
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thanks for the prompt reply. but I dont want to do any damage to my phone; and I dont have a memory card yet :/
bushrat said:
JG5 + root + AutoKiller(Strict setting+) gave me great results.
Memory card fix isnt much faster. Im not sure about the quadrant benchmark, I had 1600~ but the phone felt the same.
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I dont want to root my phone (as its brand new) and I dont know what effect does it do on warranty and stuff.
OrionTC said:
personally im waiting for samsung to release an official firmware. i can't backup my original firmware and the rom is released nowhere, so my only choice is to wait until i can flash an official firmware to keep my warranty
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my exact problem and my thoughts
OrionTC said:
Im one of the users with the I9000XXJF3 firmware and currently i can't find a backup for this. i see JF1 JF2 and JF7 on that site.
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mine is the same too
so I have to root the phone to make it faster.
this doesnt answer why the phone is slow in the first place? I have read about NAND and stuff which I dont understand. what do they mean? Can someone explain in plain english?
thanks
It's slow because for some reason, the Galaxy doesn't auto kill apps once the memory reaches low levels. So you can do two things. Install the autokiller app which should keep enough memory free for smooth operation, or you can install advanced task killer app, and kill all the apps yourself once the phone feels sluggish.
hi,
are you have a task killer like app installed ?
all apps running in background when you start them onetime..with task killer you can close all. i have 170mb ram..
after few hours of playing with my sgs its slowing down, then i look in task killer just 40mb ram.
when i kill all apps i have again 170mb and anything is fine ;-))
test it..
or check fastreboot its faster then a softreset with the power button
sorry for my bad english guys
navmanyeah said:
It's slow because for some reason, the Galaxy doesn't auto kill apps once the memory reaches low levels. So you can do two things. Install the autokiller app which should keep enough memory free for smooth operation, or you can install advanced task killer app, and kill all the apps yourself once the phone feels sluggish.
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I have tried the autokiller app but it stopped me from using it because it said it could harm my phone.
also what kind of idiotic developer wouldnt put a proper memory management module in it?
I would love to root the phone and muck with it if I could only be assured I wouldn't lose my warranty. Until someone tells me all is good, all I can do is nail apps as best I can.
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Will a factory reset undo the root? If so rooting and autokiller is a no brainer.
emclondon said:
I have tried the autokiller app but it stopped me from using it because it said it could harm my phone.
also what kind of idiotic developer wouldnt put a proper memory management module in it?
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If such a statement stops you, than you really shouldn't touch any setting on the phone =) Or buy IPhone.
Its protection against idiots
dupel said:
If such a statement stops you, than you really shouldn't touch any setting on the phone =) Or buy IPhone.
Its protection against idiots
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lol bit harsh but true.If you really do want to be cautious just wait for the official firmware update from samsung-it will be fixed(has been fixed already in jg5).It looks like samsung wanted to get the phone to market as quick as possible so firmware suffered.Judging by sales it looks like they made a good choice from a business point of view
<insert thread title here> ... an object of ridicule..
ive tried autokiller and advanced task manager, autokiller made my phone even sluggish.
still have the phone in stock condition.
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this happened to me like 5-6 times till now.
Mate: "oh you got a new mobile?"
Me: "yeah"
*shows him*
Mate: "oh you got the new iPhone?, thats cool!"
Me: :/
*facepalm*
I cant even show them my phone because people think it of as it looks like iPhone is a clone of iPhone.
and when I try to show them, my phone becomes hell lot of slow, and I get to hear things like "i got a crap phone" and "nokia 3310 is faster than yours" and stuff
Lag fix time maybe? Its super easy to do and makes massive difference.
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Think you need to stop caring what people think
Nah, I admit, it's nice showing off your phone's though. Not sure what kind of friends you have, but I've found the ability to actually do whatever I want with my phone has left most iPhone friends annoyed and somewhat jealous. Something simple as transfering regular files to your phone could be enough
1. Someone on here said that the autobrightness problem(Which if I understood it right, is that the phone changed the brightness itself) has been fixed. Is that correct? I'd control the brightness now?
2. I've been reading on here all afternoon about rooting the Play, am I right in understanding that the whole rooting process is done on the phone itself? and that after rooting, I can just freeze the bloatware and that will give me the improved battery life and still allow me to use Over-The-Air updates?
3. I've also read on here about buttons falling out. Is that a widespread problem or just one or two unlucky people?
4. All the games are saved to the SD card, right? I don't have to worry about running out of space? and what's the average file size for Xperia Play games? I've never really played games on an Android phone before.
5. Is there any of problems I should know about before buying?
Thanks anyone who answers.
Im a noob to the play but I will answer from my limited experience
1. I updated to 2.3.3. I have a widget toggle that appears to allow me to to turn the brightness on or off. So I have not had any issues with it being too dark. I must admit the auto brightness in my old phone (orange san Francisco) was very good and the play doesnt seem to match it. maybe 2.3.4 has improved functions. Not a big problem though as I use the toggle.
2. not sure to be honest. I have not bothered rooting this phone. I used to mess about with the OSF with roms etc. but I dont feel the need to on this.
3. my power button gets stuck on the case edge and needs to be lifed to undo! Luckily I never use the power button or it could get irksome. All the functions like airplane and such can be toggled with widgets.
4. Yes and no. I am not 100% but I think the system games appear to be on the system memory only and cant be moved. All new games can of course be moved to SD (if it allows etc). I installed one game from ea and before I moved it to SD I was being told I was low on space... So there isnt a tonne of room.
5. The only issue I have is the mentioned power button. Considering I have sat here playing pilot wings and final fight perfectly, I will so utterly forgive the little beast
I think its the best value £150 you can spend. The screen is also lovely for media playback and since my PSP broke its been wonderful actually converting videos to watch on the nice screen
Just to answer the question about the root.
Yes, almost everything is done on the phone itself. Rooting on 2.3.2 is very easy to do. After you root, you can grab titanium backup and freeze unwanted apps. Just make sure you ONLY update via OTA after you root to avoid losing root.
If you haven't seen this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294129
I recommend you reading it.
The Alpha Gamer said:
1. Someone on here said that the autobrightness problem(Which if I understood it right, is that the phone changed the brightness itself) has been fixed. Is that correct? I'd control the brightness now?
2. I've been reading on here all afternoon about rooting the Play, am I right in understanding that the whole rooting process is done on the phone itself? and that after rooting, I can just freeze the bloatware and that will give me the improved battery life and still allow me to use Over-The-Air updates?
3. I've also read on here about buttons falling out. Is that a widespread problem or just one or two unlucky people?
4. All the games are saved to the SD card, right? I don't have to worry about running out of space? and what's the average file size for Xperia Play games? I've never really played games on an Android phone before.
5. Is there any of problems I should know about before buying?
Thanks anyone who answers.
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1. As of the last version, 2.3.4, the auto brightness issue has disappeared. People complained that it was too dark by default and that the maximum brightness was capped, but the last version corrected that.
2. Check my signature
3. While there are debatable design choices like the power buttons and the slider feels a bit lose , I wouldn't say they're big issues, or widespread.
4. One of the big gripes with the play is the scarce internal storage. games are usually moved to the Sd, but they still may leave a trace in the internal storage. When that trace is circa 1 mb you won't be bothered, but when it's 20 megabytes, that's a five percent of your whole storage.
5. It's a good phone, sturdy and reliable. I know it's moved me away from touch screen only phones.
Thanks for the answers guys, i'm seriously considering upgrading to this right now from my Samsung Galaxy Ace
DrEzkimo said:
I think its the best value £150 you can spend.
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Where are you finding it for £150? The best i've found is £180.
11anthony said:
Just to answer the question about the root.
Yes, almost everything is done on the phone itself. Rooting on 2.3.2 is very easy to do. After you root, you can grab titanium backup and freeze unwanted apps. Just make sure you ONLY update via OTA after you root to avoid losing root.
If you haven't seen this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294129
I recommend you reading it.
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I do only do updates OTA, I don't plug my phones up to my windows laptop and updates seem hard or impossible on Linux.
and I hadn't found that thread yet, I'll take a look, thanks!
If you only do updates OTA, forget about custom ROMs and the like.
Logseman said:
If you only do updates OTA, forget about custom ROMs and the like.
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I'm ok with stock roms until support stops, and it's been confirmed that all of this year's Xperia phones are getting ICS hasn't it? So I'm ok until Jellybean or whatever they end up calling it
it was £150 at o2
btw I couldnt update mine over the air had to be plugged into a computer and for some reason the first win7 machine didnt work but the main PC did.
DrEzkimo said:
it was £150 at o2
btw I couldnt update mine over the air had to be plugged into a computer and for some reason the first win7 machine didnt work but the main PC did.
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Ah ok
and that's kinda weird, right?
And I just thought of another question, the Play is HDPI right, not MDPI?
Yes sir. 854x480 for a four inch screen makes it a High Dot Per Inch device.
Just ordered it, thanks for the help guys!
goodluck and see you and your device soon here at the XP forums
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goodluck and see you and your device soon here at the XP forums
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Thanks, it arrives tomorrow.
Now for already bought it questions: I'm guessing the first thing I should do is root it? and are there any other free game offers atm besides the 4 EA ones? lol
hey dude where did you bought your xplay? And, are you from england?
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hey dude where did you bought your xplay? And, are you from england?
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Yes I'm from England, I ordered this one from Argos. http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/s...=1500002901&langId=-1&searchTerms=XPERIA+PLAY It's out of stock atm, but then it was on Saturday when I checked but they had some back in Sunday when I ordered so they still seem to be getting some. Mine arrives tomorrow apparently.
So im ready to upgrade my phones on Tmobile and I read that the SGS 3 does not support LTE on Tmobiles network. Is this a deal breaker? Ive read that LTE is a battery vampire. Tmobile LTE network isnt due till next year. I plan on keeping the SGS 3 for 2 years, hoping it would be a bit of future proofing for me since its the hottest phone right now.
Is no LTE support a deal breaker?
Nope... I'm getting 10-15 down on a rough day in greater Los Angeles area. You really need it faster? Think it's good enough to perform every day activities on the phone.
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Yeah no way. I'm getting 20mps steady. That's stupid fast. Lte if available is quicker with better ping but the phone is excellent and Lte isn't needed with the new radios.
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Yeah no way. I'm getting 20mps steady. That's stupid fast. Lte if available is quicker with better ping but the phone is excellent and Lte isn't needed with the new radios.
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Not only this but our device supports 41mbps, which by the time LTE rolls out, will be in most cities if not already.
(I know we wont get 41mbps realistically)
I already get 25mbps in NYC which is faster than my home internet speed. Seriously LTE is overkill (literally) as it just kills your battery.
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So im ready to upgrade my phones on Tmobile and I read that the SGS 3 does not support LTE on Tmobiles network. Is this a deal breaker? Ive read that LTE is a battery vampire. Tmobile LTE network isnt due till next year. I plan on keeping the SGS 3 for 2 years, hoping it would be a bit of future proofing for me since its the hottest phone right now.
Is no LTE support a deal breaker?
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You should probably read before posting something that has been asked already.
The T999 has LTE bands already, they are just disabled by default.
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I've looked at a billion comparisons...
androidmonkey said:
So im ready to upgrade my phones on Tmobile and I read that the SGS 3 does not support LTE on Tmobiles network. Is this a deal breaker? Ive read that LTE is a battery vampire. Tmobile LTE network isnt due till next year. I plan on keeping the SGS 3 for 2 years, hoping it would be a bit of future proofing for me since its the hottest phone right now.
Is no LTE support a deal breaker?
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I'm no expert, but not much of a life living in a new state, so I read A LOT! And most of that reading has been about computers and mobile phones. I've seen about a million opinions on this; seen a lot of speed tests and other tests comparing the 2, and absolutely every piece of factual evidence so far has shown me that the T-Mobile's HSPA+ network is absolutely comparable to LTE. There are only very slight insignificant differences in the tests - some a few degrees higher, some a few lower - according to the tester's location, device, and environment. But they always come extremely close to the same numbers. I've heard LTE does eat a lot of battery, but that's (as always) depending upon individual usage. The SGS III, from what I understand, is capable of supporting LTE, even on the T-Mo model, it's just not being used since they aren't on it, so if/when they do go LTE, your phone will support it. Until then, I think you'll be just as happy with their network. I hope that helps ya! At least I'd feel like I accomplished something with my endless hours lookin at all this crap! Good luck!
Thanks. I ended up going with the SGS 3. So far I like it a lot, its very fast. I am coming from a SGS Vibrant with Slim ICS ROM on it, so I had to install a launcher to get rid of TouchWiz (currently Im using Nova Launcher).
U'll love it!
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Thanks. I ended up going with the SGS 3. So far I like it a lot, its very fast. I am coming from a SGS Vibrant with Slim ICS ROM on it, so I had to install a launcher to get rid of TouchWiz (currently Im using Nova Launcher).
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Oh cool! Me too, had the Vibrant and alternated between 2 ROMs at the end - ICS Passion and Doc's Master, they were both so great! Don't care for TouchWiz at all. I'm currently using Apex right now, it's simple, quick n user-friendly, and comes with the customizing I like - plus it has the capability of running themes from other home launchers, ie; GoLauncher, which I think is friggin awesome! Check it out if ya haven't already, there's not a whole lot it CAN'T do! Anyway, I think you'll LOVE this phone! I never in a million years thought I'd part ways with the Vibrant! I'm really stoked, now that I know how to do everything! If u have any questions, need help with dev stuff, or u just want recommendations, like I said - bored, not much of a life here, so helping is no problem at all! I've been through XDA quite extensively, so I know pretty much all there is to know about the 2 devices I have, just have the noob status still cuz I never post! So feel free to ask anytime! Have fun!!
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Oh cool! Me too, had the Vibrant and alternated between 2 ROMs at the end - ICS Passion and Doc's Master, they were both so great! Don't care for TouchWiz at all. I'm currently using Apex right now, it's simple, quick n user-friendly, and comes with the customizing I like - plus it has the capability of running themes from other home launchers, ie; GoLauncher, which I think is friggin awesome! Check it out if ya haven't already, there's not a whole lot it CAN'T do! Anyway, I think you'll LOVE this phone! I never in a million years thought I'd part ways with the Vibrant! I'm really stoked, now that I know how to do everything! If u have any questions, need help with dev stuff, or u just want recommendations, like I said - bored, not much of a life here, so helping is no problem at all! I've been through XDA quite extensively, so I know pretty much all there is to know about the 2 devices I have, just have the noob status still cuz I never post! So feel free to ask anytime! Have fun!!
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Thanks, I installed Apex last night. I might buy the Pro version if it becomes my fav. I was on the fence about waiting to get the HTC One X+ that is rumored to be released at the end of Sept. Since I have a track record with Samsung and its a very popular device (more support from devs), I decided to go with Samsung again. The only thing I really need right now is ROOT. I watched a video on Youtube and it looks like its a fairly simple process, not as easy as the Vibrant though. I mainly need ROOT to install Titanium Backup. I'm still confused though about the "flash counter" that some people mention and how Tmo/Samsung can see that you flashed your device if it were sent in for replacement/repair. Any ideas on that?
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Thanks, I installed Apex last night. I might buy the Pro version if it becomes my fav. I was on the fence about waiting to get the HTC One X+ that is rumored to be released at the end of Sept. Since I have a track record with Samsung and its a very popular device (more support from devs), I decided to go with Samsung again. The only thing I really need right now is ROOT. I watched a video on Youtube and it looks like its a fairly simple process, not as easy as the Vibrant though. I mainly need ROOT to install Titanium Backup. I'm still confused though about the "flash counter" that some people mention and how Tmo/Samsung can see that you flashed your device if it were sent in for replacement/repair. Any ideas on that?
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It's a counter that counts custom binaries, if serviced by Samsung they may check it and decline warranty. There is a no trip method in the development section that I highly recommend. Right now there is also an app anyways by guru ChainFire called triangle away, that resets the counter. Either way here's the link to the no trip method that is easy as pie for anyone. Enjoy !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
Yep!
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Thanks, I installed Apex last night. I might buy the Pro version if it becomes my fav. I was on the fence about waiting to get the HTC One X+ that is rumored to be released at the end of Sept. Since I have a track record with Samsung and its a very popular device (more support from devs), I decided to go with Samsung again. The only thing I really need right now is ROOT. I watched a video on Youtube and it looks like its a fairly simple process, not as easy as the Vibrant though. I mainly need ROOT to install Titanium Backup. I'm still confused though about the "flash counter" that some people mention and how Tmo/Samsung can see that you flashed your device if it were sent in for replacement/repair. Any ideas on that?
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Yeah, I bought the Apex Pro, and I don't normally buy many paid apps - I just really like how easy it is to integrate with other things like themes, which I mentioned earlier, and then other things too, ie; lockscreen apps, status bar apps, fonts, icons...so even if I want just one thing different that Apex doesn't have, I can still get that thing and use Apex at the same time!
Rooting!! OK here's what I did, and not a single problem! This is the fastest, easiest time I have ever had rooting and/or flashing by a MILE! I was leery due to the IMIE issues being reported and also, like you, the flash counter voiding the warranty. (if anything happened and I was out of an almost $700 phone, I'd be seriously PISSED!!) So if you do decide to root and/or flash, I would HIGHLY recommend doing these things! 1st, go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804123 and back up your IMEI. Just follow the instructions (super simple) to make a backup. I don't think u need to do a full NV backup (u'll understand what that means if u read thru the posts on this issue, but it doesn't matter) because you'll already have your IMEI backed up beforehand. I did it anyway tho, just because I felt safer that way. Up to you! Bookmark that thread tho, in case you ever encounter any IMEI or data probs cuz they're the go-to guys for that, and have all the RIGHT fixes! You'll see the other guy I'm referring to's method and a link to his thread referenced there, where there's a lot more background info, but the guy's thread I gave you the link for is WAY easier for performing the backup. As far as checking the backup to be sure it's there, that can get confusing - If you followed the directions, I promise it worked, just gets techie when trying to read phone stuff on a PC. All info on the subject is in those 2 threads, you'll see it! N E way, do that FIRST BEFORE ANYTHING!!
Next, go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746682 and install this to your PC. This is the coolest thing ever to get you backed up, rooted, flashed, whatever. It's called the "Snapdragon Toolkit" I cannot begin to say enough about it! It does EVERYTHING you need - installs the correct drivers, roots, unroots, flashes ROMs, gives u ClockworkMod Recovery AND Odin, and also gives you a full perfect backup - Nandroid backup for CM, .tar file for ODIN - of your stock firmware to keep on your PC in case you run into an issue or just decide to go back to stock. Also provides a walk-thru for resetting the flash counter back to zero using an app called Triangle Away by Chainfire!! It gets u into download mode, roots, gives you Superuser, busybox, CWM, all necessary root stuff, and reboots your phone all automatically in just a quick click! You might have read secure vs insecure kernels - gives you the choice. Insecure leaves you rooted. You can also use it to just kind of temp-root to do something that like say, requires ADB (which requires you to be rooted to use) Do it thru the toolkit, and it will get you (for instance for adb access) the insecure kernel alone, temporarily, until you're done with your task. You can do each thing separately like that or everything all at once. His thread, as well as inside the toolkit itself, when you open it on your PC, gives you total kindergarten instructions and explanations for each thing it does. I have never seen a faster, simpler, more user-friendly program for getting these things done - and all in one place! So get that, and per the instructions, open it and install the drivers 1st before plugging in your phone with ur USB. You probably have the right drivers already, but just in case there are extra drivers there needed for the program or anything it does, I'd go ahead and install them. It'll then open a window that looks old DOS command-line like, and will ask which model you have. Every time you're making any choice in the program, you'll be typing your answer at the bottom of the screen and hitting "enter" to submit. Type the number 3, it's the one for T-Mo T999 UVALEM, and hit enter. It then displays the menu with the list of all the options. You can plug in to be sure the phone's detected, and check it by looking at the top of the window; it'll show it under "List of devices attached." If you do what I did, which was the all-at-once option, you'll hit the number 2 and enter for thr rooting options menu, then 3, enter to choose all-in-one and follow the on-screen instructions for when to plug in the phone and such.
To simplify things further, so you can save some time, I've got all the files you need already, to do your IMEI backup, stock firmware backup,(the Nandroid copy of the firmware and the .tar ODIN copy), the drivers, the most recent ClockworkMod Touch and ODIN files, the Toolkit, and all the .apk files of the apps that are safe to remove from the original firmware if you want that. I didn't remove all of these, for the same reason I haven't flashed AOKP or CM9/CM10 yet; I'm not sure I want to lose the new Samsung stuff like SVoice and the motion features. It's a list others comprised, actually probably really outdated, containing the ones confirmed safe to remove. I just kept in case I wanted any of 'em back! I can personally confirm all the T-Mobile ones, ChatOn, Flipboard, all the Yahoo stuff, self, factory and LCD tests, Samsung's Media Hub, Game Hub, SSuggest, and More Services, Google's Books, Music, TV/Movies, Talk, and Google+(Plus One), Amazon, Polaris Viewer, Facebook SMS, and the system Music and Video apps. I say probably outdated cuz I'm sure the Maps from Google and Samsung, the Cloud sync apps from them all, and the Email apps, for example, are all fine to go too, and probably verified by now. (I mean seriously, do I need Samsung, T-Mo, Google+, GMail, Dropbox, Sugarsync, AND Facebook ALL syncing my stuff?! JEEZUSS!!!) Anyway, all the files are in my dropbox here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8f2wjlz1enkb8wp/saTe7MW0fE
There's also a way to flash CWM Touch Recovery without having to pay for Rom Manager Premium and without tripping the flash counter in there with instructions if you want it, but you have to be ok with entering command line script with adb or a terminal emulator. I just used the Triangle Away app, worked perfect!
Whew! What a novel, huh?! Just wanted to be sure I was thorough so you or anyone reading has specifics so there are no problems for you! I honestly didn't have a single hiccup, and all of it took less time than it's probably gonna take u to read this post! Have fun!
Any AT&T SM-T217A users here successfully obtain root via Srsroot on their tabs? They dropped a tweet a month ago that it was supported @ 4.4.2, but it's not sticking for me..
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Any AT&T SM-T217A users here successfully obtain root via Srsroot on their tabs? They dropped a tweet a month ago that it was supported @ 4.4.2, but it's not sticking for me..
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Nope. I tried that one out as soon as it posted. Here is the thread discussing http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/help/root-sma-4-4-2-t2902677
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Nope. I tried that one out as soon as it posted. Here is the thread discussing http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/help/root-sma-4-4-2-t2902677
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These T217As I bought are turning out to be the worst experience I have ever had with a decent device. The specs and the battery life are great, but AT&T (or samsung?) has lost their mind. Out of my two tabs (both set up identical) Only one was ever eligible for the 4.4.2 upgrade. The second says no upgrade when I check for one.
The one I did upgrade was so bad on 4.4.2 that I ended up trying to flash back to 4.2.2 before I realized I couldn't and bricked the tab.
2 months later, still no upgrade available for my second tab (probably a good thing except I wanted to try an app that says it can catch the firmware update to use on my bricked tab). Still no 4.4.2 firmware to be found on the internet to download for this device.
The worst part is it doesn't even seem to be available from kies. Kies 3 doesn't even recognize it as a 4.4.2 device anymore after the attempted downgrade and the other kies versions only offer 4.2.2 which the device won't let me flash.
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These T217As I bought are turning out to be the worst experience I have ever had with a decent device. The specs and the battery life are great, but AT&T (or samsung?) has lost their mind. Out of my two tabs (both set up identical) Only one was ever eligible for the 4.4.2 upgrade. The second says no upgrade when I check for one.
The one I did upgrade was so bad on 4.4.2 that I ended up trying to flash back to 4.2.2 before I realized I couldn't and bricked the tab.
2 months later, still no upgrade available for my second tab (probably a good thing except I wanted to try an app that says it can catch the firmware update to use on my bricked tab). Still no 4.4.2 firmware to be found on the internet to download for this device.
The worst part is it doesn't even seem to be available from kies. Kies 3 doesn't even recognize it as a 4.4.2 device anymore after the attempted downgrade and the other kies versions only offer 4.2.2 which the device won't let me flash.
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I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?
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I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?
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If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..
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If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..
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I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?
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I just now saw your post. When I get back home I'll take a screenshot. It's set up identical to the one I upgraded and bricked. Rooted with kingo, installed the tweaks for this tab from development (KoolKit) and using a few xposed modules to change some notification/statusbar icons..Not much else you can do to these things, and if I had to guess, the only difference between the two would maybe be different versions of the KoolKit tweaks.
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If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..
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I wish it was that easy, but I ditched AT&T years ago and went to straight talk. These tabs I purchased second hand.
rmntruexjr said:
I just now saw your post. When I get back home I'll take a screenshot. It's set up identical to the one I upgraded and bricked. Rooted with kingo, installed the tweaks for this tab from development (KoolKit) and using a few xposed modules to change some notification/statusbar icons..Not much else you can do to these things, and if I had to guess, the only difference between the two would maybe be different versions of the KoolKit tweaks.
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No worries mate. Hmmm, if it was root that was stopping the update from showing it should have been the case on both tabs. Plus, mine was originally rooted when I searched for the update and it found it fine. You do definitely have to remove root to successfully update to 4.4, which totally blows, but with the SD card changes that came out in 4.4 I had to do it.
In theory what if we where to flash a global rom to a usa variant s9 then proceed to unlocking the bootloader and oem unlock ???
Seems that would have been tried long before now.
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ANY LUCK GETTING THE SAMSUNG GALAXY S9 BOOST MOBILE IS MY CARRIER
model: SM-G960U
ONE UI VERSION: 1.0 , ANDROID VERSION: 9 , BASEBAND VERSION: G960USQU6CSGF
ANDROID SECURITY PATCH LEVEL: JULY 1ST 2019 , SE for ANDROID STATUS: ENFORCING SEPF_SM_G960U_9_0006
EVERYWHERE I HAVE LOOK I HAVE FAILED!!! ANYONE BEEN ABLE TO FIX THE SOLUTION ON HOW TO GET THIS DEVICE ROOTED. IF ANYONE CAN PLEASE HELP??? SEND A LINK OR GIVE ME ANY INFOMATION WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED! I HAVE TRIED AND LOOK THRU MANY THREADS TO FIND NOTHING THAT HAS WORK YET...... I JUST GOT THE UPDATED A WEEK AGO FOR THE NEW SGF BASEBAND. PLEASE HELP!
OR SEND ME A LINK OR INFORMATION ON THIS
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ANY LUCK GETTING THE SAMSUNG GALAXY S9 BOOST MOBILE IS MY CARRIER
model: SM-G960U
ONE UI VERSION: 1.0 , ANDROID VERSION: 9 , BASEBAND VERSION: G960USQU6CSGF
ANDROID SECURITY PATCH LEVEL: JULY 1ST 2019 , SE for ANDROID STATUS: ENFORCING SEPF_SM_G960U_9_0006
EVERYWHERE I HAVE LOOK I HAVE FAILED!!! ANYONE BEEN ABLE TO FIX THE SOLUTION ON HOW TO GET THIS DEVICE ROOTED. IF ANYONE CAN PLEASE HELP??? SEND A LINK OR GIVE ME ANY INFOMATION WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED! I HAVE TRIED AND LOOK THRU MANY THREADS TO FIND NOTHING THAT HAS WORK YET...... I JUST GOT THE UPDATED A WEEK AGO FOR THE NEW SGF BASEBAND. PLEASE HELP!
OR SEND ME A LINK OR INFORMATION ON THIS
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Yelling won't change the answer. That model, regardless of carrier, is bootloader locked. It ain't gettin' root.
End if story.
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joeldf said:
Yelling won't change the answer. That model, regardless of carrier, is bootloader locked. It ain't gettin' root.
End if story.
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what if i yell in 40 pt font?
youdoofus said:
what if i yell in 40 pt font?
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Guess you can always try...
Did I really say "End if story"?
I could edit it, but your quote has now immortalized it. ?
joeldf said:
Guess you can always try...
Did I really say "we are no longer the knights who saaaaaaay NI! we are now the knights who saaaaaaaaay icky icky ba-dang zoifmomng"?
I could edit it, but your quote has now immortalized it.
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well, we could go edit some edits, but one never knows what can happen when people go off and do silly things like that
Idk if this helps but #*9900# will bring up this menu and can enable upload mode (it appears to be disabled from factory) I know that's how the s8 was rooted and thought it might be what's stopping root on the s9 @partcyborg may shed some light on this
Heathmcdonald said:
Idk if this helps but #*9900# will bring up this menu and can enable upload mode (it appears to be disabled from factory) I know that's how the s8 was rooted and thought it might be what's stopping root on the s9 @partcyborg may shed some light on this
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USA market S9s are not rootable. The G960U models are screwed. Not that it bugs me because root messes up SPay, and id gladly give up root for that if i was forced to choose. Which I am LoL
EDIT: USA S9's are now rootable. Please refer to the guides
I'm sure people thought the same about s8, it was far from the conventional root method but if we never get root on s9 it's all good but I'll never buy another $700 Samsung if I can't own it. That's what root is about for me. They shouldn't be able to tell me what I can and can't do with my $700 phone and just thinkin about it really makes me wanna throw it in the trash, I'm tired of being a Google slave and I can't remove gapps and replace services without root I'd trade this piece of junk for a s8+ in a heart beat
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I'm sure people thought the same about s8, it was far from the conventional root method but if we never get root on s9 it's all good but I'll never buy another $700 Samsung if I can't own it. That's what root is about for me. They shouldn't be able to tell me what I can and can't do with my $700 phone and just thinkin about it really makes me wanna throw it in the trash, I'm tired of being a Google slave and I can't remove gapps and replace services without root I'd trade this piece of junk for a s8+ in a heart beat
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what exactly are you missing without root? not being sarcastic, just curious. i used to be a root or die kind of person until i was faced with this unrootable device but gained SPay. Honestly, just curious to see what people still use root for
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what exactly are you missing without root? not being sarcastic, just curious. i used to be a root or die kind of person until i was faced with this unrootable device but gained SPay. Honestly, just curious to see what people still use root for
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For one, being able to uninstall software you don't want/use that's just taking space. Also, during my flashaholic days, being able to use different kernels to significantly increase battery usage and being able to install lean/pared-down roms for that extra snappy performance.
My s9 is stuck in emergency recovery and will not go into download mode. I've tried everything can anyone help me.....
Someone please work on the Qualpwn I'm willing to chip in something on the bounty and I'm sure I'm not the only one, @partcyborg, wanna make some money?
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Someone please work on the Qualpwn I'm willing to chip in something on the bounty and I'm sure I'm not the only one, @partcyborg, wanna make some money?
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The S9 has been out for over a year. Plenty of people around here have been picking at it. If there was a way, you'd think something would have been found by now.
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The S9 has been out for over a year. Plenty of people around here have been picking at it. If there was a way, you'd think something would have been found by now.
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exactly
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leftylok83 said:
My s9 is stuck in emergency recovery and will not go into download mode. I've tried everything can anyone help me.....
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do you have ADB installed on your computer? if so use the command to reboot into download mode
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hey_joe said:
For one, being able to uninstall software you don't want/use that's just taking space. Also, during my flashaholic days, being able to use different kernels to significantly increase battery usage and being able to install lean/pared-down roms for that extra snappy performance.
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those items you mentioned arent as bad as they used to be. The kernels are pretty efficient nowadays and with the advent of the U1 Odin flashable files, there isnt much need to uninstall too many things. Dont get me wrong, i really miss being able to flash whatever i wanted (i started my root journey on the OG Evo, then went to the S3, S5, A8 and now S9) and yes, it does make a difference for each individual phone as they all are somehow a tad different. I wish we could root. I really wish we could root and maintain SPay and SHealth. But even if root is accomplished, but it breaks SPay, ill not root. SPay is that important to me
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those items you mentioned arent as bad as they used to be. The kernels are pretty efficient nowadays and with the advent of the U1 Odin flashable files, there isnt much need to uninstall too many things. Dont get me wrong, i really miss being able to flash whatever i wanted (i started my root journey on the OG Evo, then went to the S3, S5, A8 and now S9) and yes, it does make a difference for each individual phone as they all are somehow a tad different. I wish we could root. I really wish we could root and maintain SPay and SHealth. But even if root is accomplished, but it breaks SPay, ill not root. SPay is that important to me
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You're probably right. Haven't flashed anything on a Android phone since LG G4. Been using an iPhone X as my daily driver since that time and just received this S9 when renewing my contract. I've had the LG G7 One for a couple of months and the S10 after that for a few days. Both have been sold since I find them really expensive to risk bricking. You could say my flashing days are waning and just want to stick to secure environment which is why I'm using an iphone where there is no temptation to modify anything. This S9 is still kind of new and just my backup phone so I can still afford to tinker with it but as I found out, it's not even possible to unlock the bootloader so I guess it'll go back in the drawer for now or sell it.
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You're probably right. Haven't flashed anything on a Android phone since LG G4. Been using an iPhone X as my daily driver since that time and just received this S9 when renewing my contract. I've had the LG G7 One for a couple of months and the S10 after that for a few days. Both have been sold since I find them really expensive to risk bricking. You could say my flashing days are waning and just want to stick to secure environment which is why I'm using an iphone where there is no temptation to modify anything. This S9 is still kind of new and just my backup phone so I can still afford to tinker with it but as I found out, it's not even possible to unlock the bootloader so I guess it'll go back in the drawer for now or sell it.
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yeah, the bootloader is probably a lost cause for the immediate future. i got my S9 a few months ago for $275 from Cricket and flashed the U1 firmware shortly after getting it. We went to Cancun for a week, so i left it alone before the trip, but as soon as we got home, i flashed it LoL
anyways, i wouldnt blame you for selling it if its just your backup phone especially since there is no real tinkering beyond the goodlock app from samsung themselves, which is pretty limited
To Be honest, theres is no sense in rooting this phone anyway! To what tinker with a few dumb options lol.... Them childish days are gone. Thought it would be neat till I really thought of the constant headaches and bull$hit wasted time! NM
You can might as well get an iPhone if you want to allow someone else to own it for you. I like the freedom it's not childish to not want to charge your phone constantly or to want to remove factory Spyware I don't understand why you would think any of this is childish but ok