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[Q] Noob asking from cid, s-off, getting back to stock, etc.

Hello everybody!
I am relatively new One X owner and my previous handset was the famous HD2, so I used to be quite familiar with all the tweaks and mods. But now I have apparently stepped into a whole new world with a lot more complicated rules. There's talk about cid-numbers, nandroid backup, s-on/s-off, how you can't downgrade, etc. I tried to use the search, but I would like comprehensive answers to all my questions.
First thing first, what's a cid-number? I've read it has something to do with regions and operators, but how does this affect the device? Is this some kind hardware change or just software related? Is there even "international" versions available? Since I am ex HD2 user, the only difference between that device was the T-Mobile and international variat. Now it seems, there's a lot more different handsets available.
How does the cid-number affect the phone? Does these custom roms require specific cid-numbers? Can they be changed at all? What I've learned, my device cid-number is HTC__Y13. Does this mean something? And does it mean I can install for example the ARHD's newest Jelly Bean?
Talking about Jelly Bean, there has been talked about not being able to revert back to ICS? Why? Is actual physical changes made with the device, so it can't be downgraded? I never read people having such problems with the HD2. You could always revert back to older custom, or stock rom, if you wished to do so.
Then there's s-on and s-off. What does this mean exactly and how does it affect my device? I've already unlocked my bootloader, installed the custom boot and custom rom? Am I still somehow locked? I didn't even realize this has something meaningfull purpose.
I've probably already made my first mistake by not creating a nandroid backup. To clarify, I recently changed my stock rom to ARHD 9.7.0 and followed all the noobie instructions, but didn't realize that nandroid backup was somehow essential. Does this mean that I'm screwed somehow or is there a way to fully revert back to stock? Back in the HD2 era, you could have just downloaded the official stock rom and get your device back to stock. So what I'm asking, can I completely revert back to stock if I want for example send the device for repair?
And finally about the official updates. I've read a lot about not being able to update your rom, without reverting back to stock. Is this true and why would people want to do that? Doesn't the new custom roms include all the new improvements and upgrades? Why would people want to install custom rom, then revert back to stock to get the latest updates and then go back to custom? Maybe I've missed something?
Maybe these questions have been aswered a thousand times, in which case I would greatly appreciate, if somebody could point me to the right direction. If not, I would also appreciate, if you could answer any of my questions. It's not funny being in the dark.

Esaj2 said:
Hello everybody!
I am relatively new One X owner and my previous handset was the famous HD2, so I used to be quite familiar with all the tweaks and mods. But now I have apparently stepped into a whole new world with a lot more complicated rules. There's talk about cid-numbers, nandroid backup, s-on/s-off, how you can't downgrade, etc. I tried to use the search, but I would like comprehensive answers to all my questions.
First thing first, what's a cid-number? I've read it has something to do with regions and operators, but how does this affect the device? Is this some kind hardware change or just software related? Is there even "international" versions available? Since I am ex HD2 user, the only difference between that device was the T-Mobile and international variat. Now it seems, there's a lot more different handsets available.
How does the cid-number affect the phone? Does these custom roms require specific cid-numbers? Can they be changed at all? What I've learned, my device cid-number is HTC__Y13. Does this mean something? And does it mean I can install for example the ARHD's newest Jelly Bean?
Talking about Jelly Bean, there has been talked about not being able to revert back to ICS? Why? Is actual physical changes made with the device, so it can't be downgraded? I never read people having such problems with the HD2. You could always revert back to older custom, or stock rom, if you wished to do so.
Then there's s-on and s-off. What does this mean exactly and how does it affect my device? I've already unlocked my bootloader, installed the custom boot and custom rom? Am I still somehow locked? I didn't even realize this has something meaningfull purpose.
I've probably already made my first mistake by not creating a nandroid backup. To clarify, I recently changed my stock rom to ARHD 9.7.0 and followed all the noobie instructions, but didn't realize that nandroid backup was somehow essential. Does this mean that I'm screwed somehow or is there a way to fully revert back to stock? Back in the HD2 era, you could have just downloaded the official stock rom and get your device back to stock. So what I'm asking, can I completely revert back to stock if I want for example send the device for repair?
And finally about the official updates. I've read a lot about not being able to update your rom, without reverting back to stock. Is this true and why would people want to do that? Doesn't the new custom roms include all the new improvements and upgrades? Why would people want to install custom rom, then revert back to stock to get the latest updates and then go back to custom? Maybe I've missed something?
Maybe these questions have been aswered a thousand times, in which case I would greatly appreciate, if somebody could point me to the right direction. If not, I would also appreciate, if you could answer any of my questions. It's not funny being in the dark.
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hello, so: cid is region/operator number, for europe is htc__01 for example, and you can't change it while we don't have s-off, it's just a number that says to the ruu if it's the right version of phone or not, cid 11111111 is called supercid, and permit you to install every ruu in this world for this phone, but still we can't have it until we achieved s-off.
s-on/s-off are security on/security off, and except for few test devices, everybody have s-on when they buy a phone, and developers and hackers have to find a way to modify it to s-off, which will permit us to flash different hboot version, and downgrade, and change boot animations (the first one, not the second with animation, it's already moddable).
to return back to stock rom you have to relock your bootloader with fastboot command:
Code:
fastboot oem lock
and then download ruu version for your phone from here: http://htcruu.com/?dir=Endeavor
but you should download one with newer/the same hboot version and with your cidnum
to see hboot version just enter in bootloader and look to it there, for cidnum write this on cmd:
Code:
fastboot oem getvar cid
then enter in bootloader and launch .exe you downloaded and follow instructions, in some minutes you'll have completely stock rom! (but still no warranty, because you unlocked your bootloader, and when you relock it, it'll be written RELOCKED, instead of LOCKED when it's new).
flash jelly bean with new sense it's a risk now because it will flash also new hboot, that won't permit you to install previous rom or ruu, so you'll stay on jelly bean until somebody will do rom for this hboot! so i suggest you to wait some weeks and it will be official and more stable and better.
good luck in this new world

Thanks a lot! I guess there's different opinions about the warranty, because I have read that people have been able to fix their devices (under warranty), even after unlocked bootloader, if the device was returned to factory condition prior the repair. So warranty won't be voided completely and all the hardware issues are covered.
I've used app called "Cid Getter" and it gives me this line: [CID is:]: [HTC__Y13]. Is this my cid-number? If so, what is the right stock ruu for me?
HBOOT-1.12.0000 <------ I guess this is my hboot version?
In theory can the device be hacked , so the bootloader would say LOCKED, even if you unlocked it before? Or is this totally impossible?

Esaj2 said:
Thanks a lot! I guess there's different opinions about the warranty, because I have read that people have been able to fix their devices (under warranty), even after unlocked bootloader, if the device was returned to factory condition prior the repair. So warranty won't be voided completely and all the hardware issues are covered.
I've used app called "Cid Getter" and it gives me this line: [CID is:]: [HTC__Y13]. Is this my cid-number? If so, what is the right stock ruu for me?
HBOOT-1.12.0000 <------ I guess this is my hboot version?
In theory can the device be hacked , so the bootloader would say LOCKED, even if you unlocked it before? Or is this totally impossible?
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y13 i think that it's europe, try to download normal europe no brand version, if you'll have problems try another one,
yes, 1.12.0000 is your hboot version, and it's not the newest so you can download the last ruu without problems
no it can't, but even if it would be possible, it'll be pointless because you gave a number to htc, and they know your imei adress, so even with LOCKED, they'll know... in some countries they don't make problem about, if it's a hardware fault, in others you'll have problem, i don't know just ask htc in your country if you'll need it

Yes I have the European version, since I live in Finland and it is part of Europe and the European Union. Here we don't have branded phones so I guess that doesn't cause any problems. Also the phone was not sim-locked. Could you post me a link to a correct RUU? Does the radio version matter somehow?
What comes to the warranty, I probably will have to see that if it comes to it. Hopefully there's no reason to send the device for repair.
And if I understood correctly, I shouldn't upgrade to ARHD Jelly Bean, because it's going to cause some troubles, if I want to revert back to stock?

Esaj2 said:
Yes I have the European version, since I live in Finland and it is part of Europe and the European Union. Here we don't have branded phones so I guess that doesn't cause any problems. Also the phone was not sim-locked. Could you post me a link to a correct RUU? Does the radio version matter somehow?
What comes to the warranty, I probably will have to see that if it comes to it. Hopefully there's no reason to send the device for repair.
And if I understood correctly, I shouldn't upgrade to ARHD Jelly Bean, because it's going to cause some troubles, if I want to revert back to stock?
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what radio do you have? i don't know what's the difference, but i think there is a difference between mid-europa and north europa, so maybe there is something different.
about arhd jb you'll NOT BE ABLE to revert back to ics, so no ruu, neither other rom from xda, because they are done for other hboot as i know, so if you'll install it, you'll have it until someone will do something for this hboot

The radio version is 2.1204.135.20. I'm not sure, but I don't think there being a difference between Northern-European and Middle-European devices, at least what comes to the radio version.
So I guess I should stick with the current ICS ARHD 9.7.0 build for now... Thank you for your great help! :good:

http://htcruu.com/Endeavor/RUU_ENDE...Radio_2.1204.127.19_release_271851_signed.exe
this seems to be similar radio, try with it

Hi,
Ive tried without success to get the CID of my phone with get cid app from store or using emulator and the getprop ro.cid command.
Nothing...
What can I do for get it? :S

Esaj2 said:
The radio version is 2.1204.135.20. I'm not sure, but I don't think there being a difference between Northern-European and Middle-European devices, at least what comes to the radio version.
So I guess I should stick with the current ICS ARHD 9.7.0 build for now... Thank you for your great help! :good:
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CID isn't the only way to find out the RUU for your phone. If you'd done the right thing and checked your software build before rooting to make sure there is an RUU for your phone then you'd know which RUU is for you. For example:
If you were running 1.29.401.11 then RUU_ENDEAVOR_U_ICS_40_HTC_Europe_1.29.401.11_Radio_1.1204.105.14_release_260491_signed.exe would be the one for you

Esaj2 said:
if I want to revert back to stock?
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Have a look here bro http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859714
See you
Franky

ONE X going crazy, need help A.S.A.P

Before anyone gets to be smart ass, I have already tried searching forums. Searched google for quite a bit as well. Spent couple hours on the subject matter but still couldn't fully understand everything so that's why I am asking questions here.
I have gotten hold of a HTC one X which is acting up. Freezes up, screen goes all haywire, things get mixed up, screen banding. From what I have gathered it is on a custom rom ORDROID. I want to simply make it go back to stock rom and if not possible then to cyanogen rom. But the priority is to get back to stock rom and see if it fixes things up. I am a Galaxy series Owner where things r not complicated , HTC is not my forte. Please just guide me to a simple procedure it will be very appreciated.
Info:
Android Version : 4.1.1
Software number : 11.1.2
HTC SDK API : 4.63
Kernel version 3.1.10-gcc7c4b
baseband : 5.1204.162.29
build number : 3.14.401.27
HB BOOT 1.36
I believe phone is rooted and recovery is installed as well.
Quick reply with simple instructions and minus the sarcasm will be loved
PS: Any unbranded GSM English ROM will be fine.

well since you're rooted already and have cwm , I'd suggest you simply try and flash another Rom , there's a guide how to flash them easily in every roms thread by dev who made it. shouldn't be too hard , just don't forget to erase cashe. gl.

You say you 'got hold of it', which implies it wasn't yours from new. Check with whoever you purchased it from as to which original firmware it was on
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

@Roguesniper1:
Why you didn't search the four... ok you did that, but how about Googli... ok you did that as well. How about understandin... ok you couldn't (joking here).
Your first sentence made me laughing when I read it, and yes it really starts getting out of control with those smarties (at least on HOX forums).
Sorry for the OT, now to your problem. I'll give you some guidelines and you could search the rest, which I don't consider it as a problem in your case.
* If your boot loader is unlocked, lock it first (you could find the guide here, and also posted many times on JB threads).
*(Skip this part and move to the next one) Download your RUU from here http://www.htcruu.com/?dir=Endeavor or from here http://www.filefactory.com/f/7cc7b2fbdd03c031/ (provided by [email protected]).
* I think this RUU is the right one for your, http://www.htcruu.com/securekey.php...Radio_5.1204.162.29_release_298897_signed.exe
* Install it.
That's all & Good luck.
Happy Christmas
Note: if you read the word [email protected] it doesn't mean you are rooted.

I relocked my bootloader and tried installing your rom but it is not installing, also i can't boot the phone anymore, it goes back to Hboot screen, did i miss something, was there a file to load before relocking the bootloader ?

hey guys. one of my firends is having a problem like this but woth one difference: he is on stock rom and unrooted..in short he has done donthing with his phone but experiencing almost the same problem said above. how can we fix this?
thnx in advance
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Try also installing CWM Recovery and do what neuTrue says.

sorry for noobing but i am all unfamiliar with one x and especially htc's so about this bootloader, it says *** LOCKED *** and ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-ON RL below that. should i assume that bootloader is locked (because of ***locked*** thing) or is it unlocked (s-on)?

rukenau said:
sorry for noobing but i am all unfamiliar with one x and especially htc's so about this bootloader, it says *** LOCKED *** and ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-ON RL below that. should i assume that bootloader is locked (because of ***locked*** thing) or is it unlocked (s-on)?
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if it says it's locked than it's locked

One-X-master said:
than it's locked
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so then i think i should go on with the second step... but alirkar says i need to install cwm, then i need to unlock and then i have to choose a ruu file ( which i dont know according to what?) and then installing it.. could anyone pm me with all these things?
btw, i mean no offence but i am happy that i own a sammy

rukenau said:
so then i think i should go on with the second step... but alirkar says i need to install cwm, then i need to unlock and then i have to choose a ruu file ( which i dont know according to what?) and then installing it.. could anyone pm me with all these things?
btw, i mean no offence but i am happy that i own a sammy
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you dont need cwm to install the ruu. actualy you need to relock the bootloader if it isnt allready locked.
then you need to find out the correc ruu for your phone
fastboot getvar version-main this command should tell what version is the correct for you

i have a question. this phone is on stock rom, and as far as i understand we are flashing a "custom" stock rom.
but what is the difference? why does htc make a rom with major problems like these? and can we fix these problems better than htc?
hope this rom fix this problem, cuz its very annoying.. :s

[Q] Installing Custom Roms

ok soo ive had time to finally sit down and start installing custom stuff to my hox. I went through all the steps to set it up and ive unlocked booloader, and instaled custom recovery.
I went to go flash a rom lets just say android revolution but i havent decided which yet. Im alittle confused about the instructions.
it turns out my HOX is s-off (it says s off on the top of bootloader screen). and my CID is 11111111 and my hboot is 1.39.
So these are my qs:
-What does s-off really mean? Does it let me skip any steps or does this matter.
-Why is my CID like that? After looking at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975140, I don't see my CID listed. Did i get like a fake HOX or something? (When i go through the setup it doesn't let me uncheck the "provide annonymous info to HTC" agreement because it says my device is a test device if that helps...)
-What is a "Proper HBOOT version for Jelly Bean based ROM"? (This is from te Andoid revolution HD instructions) I think I have a correct HBoot but idk what im supposed to be looking for
This isnt my first time installing custom roms but it was much more simple with my old phones than this. I dont wanna eff anything up cause I cant afford to get another beautiful hox
Thanks in advance for the help guys :good:

PaKii94 said:
ok soo ive had time to finally sit down and start installing custom stuff to my hox. I went through all the steps to set it up and ive unlocked booloader, and instaled custom recovery.
I went to go flash a rom lets just say android revolution but i havent decided which yet. Im alittle confused about the instructions.
it turns out my HOX is s-off (it says s off on the top of bootloader screen). and my CID is 11111111 and my hboot is 1.39.
So these are my qs:
-What does s-off really mean? Does it let me skip any steps or does this matter.
-Why is my CID like that? After looking at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975140, I don't see my CID listed. Did i get like a fake HOX or something? (When i go through the setup it doesn't let me uncheck the "provide annonymous info to HTC" agreement because it says my device is a test device if that helps...)
-What is a "Proper HBOOT version for Jelly Bean based ROM"? (This is from te Andoid revolution HD instructions) I think I have a correct HBoot but idk what im supposed to be looking for
This isnt my first time installing custom roms but it was much more simple with my old phones than this. I dont wanna eff anything up cause I cant afford to get another beautiful hox
Thanks in advance for the help guys :good:
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- S-off is security off, you can flash complete roms from the recovery, no need to flash the boot.img with fastboot commands.
- your cid is kinda special, you are able to change it to any regio cid becase your phone is s-off. Its a lucky thing id say.....
- the proper hboot for JB are all hboots from 1.31 up to 1.39
You can put a rom onto the sdcard and perform a full wipe and then install the new rom.zip. you do not need to flash the boot.img seperatly like we have to do with s-on devices.....
Hope this helps
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Mr Hofs said:
- S-off is security off, you can flash complete roms from the recovery, no need to flash the boot.img with fastboot commands.
- your cid is kinda special, you are able to change it to any regio cid becase your phone is s-off. Its a lucky thing id say.....
- the proper hboot for JB are all hboots from 1.31 up to 1.39
You can put a rom onto the sdcard and perform a full wipe and then install the new rom.zip. you do not need to flash the boot.img seperatly like we have to do with s-on devices.....
Hope this helps
Sent from my GT-P5110 using xda app-developers app
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ok so i just ignore the boo.img stuff cause i dont need to flash it... sounds good makes life a bit simpler almost like flashing on my old phone . as for CID, if i change it to any old regular one can I change it back? is there any advantage to changing it? what does CID actually mean... also what does hboot mean/do? Im only interested in JB roms so i shouldnt have to worry about that right?

If you only want to install JB custom roms you dont need to change anything......flash away i dont know too much about changing the cid. But you are pretty much able to run all software from every country. Like mine cid is european so i can only flash the european software to it. You are able to change the cid so you are also able to flash official asian software and the bootloader is sort of the bios from a pc....
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Please help me find the proper RUU

Hi guys,
I have a OneX from a friend and it seems to have a few bugs. I want to get it 100% stock and get all the updates.It runs on stock ROM now, but it was rooted, there were a bunch of crazy apps, a lot of trash, so I want to get it clean.
This is what I managed to find about it:
Code:
CID: HTC__032
HBoot says:
*** UNLOCKED ***
ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.39.0000
CPLR-None
MICROP-None
RADIO-5.1204.162.29
eMMC-bootmode: disabled
CPU-bootmode: disabled
HW secure boot: enabled
MODEM PATH: OFF
Dec 17 2012, 13:59:37
Recovery: CWM based 6.0.2.7
Settings - About:
Android version 4.1.1
Sense 4+
Software number: 3.14.401.31
HTC SDK API level 4.63
HTCEXtension_Sense45_1
Kernel 3.1.10-g9fb8f80
[email protected]#1
SMP PREEMPT
Baseband 5.1204.162.29
Buid Number 3.14.401.31 CL128187 release-keys
Browser version Webkit 534.30
I know there are a few small OTA updates after this version, but if I get it to check for updates, it says there's nothing new. There's an update in the downloads dir - seems to ignore it. My guess is the software is messed up, so:
- I want to install the latest available JellyBean RUU
- Run all the available OTA updates
I've looked through htcdev.com/resources and http://www.androidfiles.org/ruu/?developer=Endeavor but it's a bit much for me
My only problem is that I don't know how to select the proper RUU for it. Please help with a link or something that can take me to the proper RUU.
I can handle the rest, but I really need your help in selecting the files.
Thank you in advance for any help / hints.
Cheers!

i need your main-version, type
Code:
fastboot getvar version-main

Here it is:
Code:
version-main: 3.14.401.31

All you have to do is download this: http://www.androidfiles.org/ruu/sec...Radio_5.1204.162.29_release_302015_signed.exe
Then relock the bootloader by typing 'fastboot oem lock' in fastboot.
While still in fastboot mode, run the ruu exe by right clicking and selecting 'run as administrator'
Sent from my IceCold One X

Thanks for the help guys, the RUU is installed.
However, I could only find a single, minor OTA update, for the Contacts app [about 1.2MB] and now it says there's nothing else available.
Any idea how recent that RUU is? I remember from my own HOX that there were about 3 or 4 updates after the JB upgrade.

acoustiq said:
Thanks for the help guys, the RUU is installed.
However, I could only find a single, minor OTA update, for the Contacts app [about 1.2MB] and now it says there's nothing else available.
Any idea how recent that RUU is? I remember from my own HOX that there were about 3 or 4 updates after the JB upgrade.
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if i am not wrong that is the 2nd JB update, i think you're missing the newer two

Is there anything I can do to get the latest updates?

acoustiq said:
Is there anything I can do to get the latest updates?
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have you tried rebooting the phone?

Yes, of course... No good.

try this
1- Go to Settings > Apps > All
2- Find Google Services Framework.
3- Force Stop.
4- Clear Data.
5- Check again the updates avaiable

I just did it, no change...
"Your phone is up to date..."
All I want is to make sure I get any future updates, nothing more. Otherwise I would've gone with a different ROM... Any other ideas?

acoustiq said:
I just did it, no change...
"Your phone is up to date..."
All I want is to make sure I get any future updates, nothing more. Otherwise I would've gone with a different ROM... Any other ideas?
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finished my ideas

Well, thank you for getting me this far, at least the phone is clean and works fine now
If anyone has any other ideas, I'm all ears .

acoustiq said:
Well, thank you for getting me this far, at least the phone is clean and works fine now
If anyone has any other ideas, I'm all ears .
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no problems mate i'll let you know if i have any other idea

My idea here :
Most HTC 032 cids did get the 3.18 update. But no 3.19 or 3.20 !
They pulled the 3.18 update because of the many WiFi problems that have been reported.
The 3.19 or 3.20 update is not released so that's why you don't get a update now anymore.
You are actually up to date now

Mr Hofs said:
My idea here :
Most HTC 032 cids did get the 3.18 update. But no 3.19 or 3.20 !
They pulled the 3.18 update because of the many WiFi problems that have been reported.
The 3.19 or 3.20 update is not released so that's why you don't get a update now anymore.
You are actually up to date now
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didn't know that

I got the 3.20 update today... Sure took a while

See

Problem finding RUU for 3.20.401.1
I have been looking for an RUU for 3.20.401.1, which I fear doesn't exist and only exists in OTA form.
I'm trying to return to the default HTC ROM and think that I require to do it through a clockworkmod backup, and flashing a boot.img and recovery.img.
The thing is will that 100% restore it back so that when I relock the bootloader it would load up correctly and allow me to recieve future OTA updates?

For give me if am at the wrong thread. Yesterday I received my new HTC ONE. coz I got tired of waiting for the latest OTA on JB. Same goes with the RUU for my HTC ONE S villec2. What happened was I accidentally bricked my phone but one guy here really helped me to a point to at least install the luxandroid rom. its working fine thanks to him.
Now, I just wanted to make sure before I do anything on my ONE in the future. I'd would like to make sure I can revert it back to the way it was before, not just by making a back but preventing the same thing to happen like on my One S.
Is there an Existing RUU for HTC ONE version-main: 3.62.401.1, CID HTC_J15, HBOOT 1.55.0000?
If there is. Can you guys direct me where I can get it. Your reply would be greatly appreciated mates.
Thanks in Advance.

[Q] Splash screen/Boot Animation issue

Hey guys, I'm running ViperOne 2.4.0. with TWRP recovery installed. For some reason when it boots up, the only thing it shows is an unusual HTC splash screen with red writing at the bottom, similar to if it were booting into recovery, but without the pink "entering recovery" message at the top. What is causing this, can it be changed by adding a new splash screen and/or boot animation? It just stays on this screen for a painfully long time, and then goes black. I tap the screen and it's on, and everything is fine. Thanks in advance.

chattguy said:
Hey guys, I'm running ViperOne 2.4.0. with TWRP recovery installed. For some reason when it boots up, the only thing it shows is an unusual HTC splash screen with red writing at the bottom, similar to if it were booting into recovery, but without the pink "entering recovery" message at the top. What is causing this, can it be changed by adding a new splash screen and/or boot animation? It just stays on this screen for a painfully long time, and then goes black. I tap the screen and it's on, and everything is fine. Thanks in advance.
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I've got the same issue..... plz help.

Because you guys on the lower version firmware which is meant for 4.4.2
And the ROM requires a newer firmware for 4.4.3

ckpv5 said:
Because you guys on the lower version firmware which is meant for 4.4.2
And the ROM requires a newer firmware for 4.4.3
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Okay.....so can I update the firmware? Do I have to be truly S-off to do that?

chattguy said:
Okay.....so can I update the firmware? Do I have to be truly S-off to do that?
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You don't need S-Off to upgrade firmware with official untouched firmware.
With S-On you can't downgrade.
I believe your device is T-Mobile so grab the OTA.zip from T-Mobile section and extract out the firmware and use it.
Or.. do a proper OTA update.... or use the RUU ... all your answers are in T-Mobile section
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oogierule said:
I've got the same issue..... plz help.
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And yours ... the same as above but the AT&T ones in AT&T section

ckpv5 said:
You don't need S-Off to upgrade firmware with official untouched firmware.
With S-On you can't downgrade.
I believe your device is T-Mobile so grab the OTA.zip from T-Mobile section and extract out the firmware and use it.
Or.. do a proper OTA update.... or use the RUU ... all your answers are in T-Mobile section
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And yours ... the same as above but the AT&T ones in AT&T section
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Okay, and to find out the current firmware I'm running, that's listed as "Build Number" in settings, yes? It says I'm currently running 2.22.531.5 CL365360 release-keys. Is there a newer firmware than that? If so I'm not finding it.

chattguy said:
Okay, and to find out the current firmware I'm running, that's listed as "Build Number" in settings, yes? It says I'm currently running 2.22.531.5 CL365360 release-keys. Is there a newer firmware than that? If so I'm not finding it.
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I never know a Viper ROM is based on 2.22.531.5 CL365360 release-keys Your OP is mentioning about Viper.
Firmware is what written on bootloader - OS : ?????????
In Build Number in settings is the ROM version.
Well I guess I need to stop responding to Q&A for devices which have their own specific forum ....
I know nothing when it comes to T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint and Verizon ... sorry
users with specific device can understand better and offer a better help and advice.
always wondering why people with specific device with specific forum post in Int'l GSM forum

ckpv5 said:
I never know a Viper ROM is based on 2.22.531.5 CL365360 release-keys Your OP is mentioning about Viper.
Firmware is what written on bootloader - OS : ?????????
In Build Number in settings is the ROM version.
Well I guess I need to stop responding to Q&A for devices which have their own specific forum ....
I know nothing when it comes to T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint and Verizon ... sorry
users with specific device can understand better and offer a better help and advice.
always wondering why people with specific device with specific forum post in Int'l GSM forum
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First of all, this isn't an "international GSM" forum. It's an HTC One M8 forum. That to me, means that it's for all users of this particular phone. Second, there is nothing that explains in explicit detail how I can fix this particular problem, in the T-Mo specific forum. Anyway, thanks.

chattguy said:
First of all, this isn't an "international GSM" forum. It's an HTC One M8 forum. That to me, means that it's for all users of this particular phone. Second, there is nothing that explains in explicit detail how I can fix this particular problem, in the T-Mo specific forum. Anyway, thanks.
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No problem about that ... it just me need to learn not to respond to specific device Q&A
Anyway ...about the firmware ... what is it ? Not the one written in build numbers ... what's the one written on bootloader ?

ckpv5 said:
No problem about that ... it just me need to learn not to respond to specific device Q&A
Anyway ...about the firmware ... what is it ? Not the one written in build numbers ... what's the one written on bootloader ?
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Here's what it says:
HBOOT 3.16.0.0000
Radio-1.16.21331931.LA24G
OpenDSP-v38.2.2-00542-M8974.0311
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eMMC-boot 2048MB

chattguy said:
Here's what it says:
HBOOT 3.16.0.0000
Radio-1.16.21331931.LA24G
OpenDSP-v38.2.2-00542-M8974.0311
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eMMC-boot 2048MB
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That's what I'm trying to tell.
You do have a lower version firmware meant for 4.4.2 (the reason why it takes long time to boot and the black screen)
Firmware 4.4.3 has hboot 3.18.0.000 or greater than 3.16.0.0000

ckpv5 said:
That's what I'm trying to tell.
You do have a lower version firmware meant for 4.4.2 (the reason why it takes long time to boot and the black screen)
Firmware 4.4.3 has hboot 3.18.0.000 or greater than 3.16.0.0000
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Do I flash this in Hboot? Do I need to be on a stock rom, or S-off? I'd rather not have to deal with that if I can help it.

chattguy said:
Do I flash this in Hboot? Do I need to be on a stock rom, or S-off? I'd rather not have to deal with that if I can help it.
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There is no need to go for S-Off if you don't need it. The only thing is once you updated to 4.4.3, S-Off thru SunShine may not work too. (currently)
So it's all depends on what you want/prefer to do :
1. backup your current Viper ROM and revert to stock ROM and do normal OTA (no need to relock bootloader)
Once complete, reinstall TWRP and restore your Viper ROM backup (so no reinstalling hassle)
or
2. revert to stock ROM with RUU (you need to relock bootloader)
Once complete, you need to reunlock bootloader and install TWRP and restore your backup.
or
3. keep/backup your current setup of Viper ROM and flash only the HTC signed firmware either thru fastboot or use a external_sdcard method. Both way you need to relock bootloader and re-unlock again after complete. Always remember unlocking bootloader will wipe your data. So make a backup to PC first. And you need to reflash TWRP too. You can try without relock bootloader first and see as I can't remember whether it will work on an unlocked bootloader or not. If not working, then try again with relocked bootloader.
I guess you can have all the info and files needed in this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714456

ckpv5 said:
There is no need to go for S-Off if you don't need it. The only thing is once you updated to 4.4.3, S-Off thru SunShine may not work too. (currently)
So it's all depends on what you want/prefer to do :
1. backup your current Viper ROM and revert to stock ROM and do normal OTA (no need to relock bootloader)
Once complete, reinstall TWRP and restore your Viper ROM backup (so no reinstalling hassle)
or
2. revert to stock ROM with RUU (you need to relock bootloader)
Once complete, you need to reunlock bootloader and install TWRP and restore your backup.
or
3. keep/backup your current setup of Viper ROM and flash only the HTC signed firmware either thru fastboot or use a external_sdcard method. Both way you need to relock bootloader and re-unlock again after complete. Always remember unlocking bootloader will wipe your data. So make a backup to PC first. And you need to reflash TWRP too. You can try without relock bootloader first and see as I can't remember whether it will work on an unlocked bootloader or not. If not working, then try again with relocked bootloader.
I guess you can have all the info and files needed in this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714456
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Okay thanks man. None of that sounds like something I feel like doing this weekend. I'll see how I feel Monday and attempt it. Many thanks for your patience.

Speaking personally, I would say if you currently have the ability to s-off you may as well do it and save yourself some headaches. Reason being, if you're s-off you can, for example, flash a modified firmware that doesn't erase your rom or bootloader, which to me, is a lot less confusing and troublesome. You can also do things like flash different radios, animations, etc without installing new roms and what not. Anyways, that's just my opinion and I don't claim to be an expert or anything, just another random user.