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[Q]How to move applications to SD Card for Kindle Fire?

Hello,
I have no idea why the app I installed from the app market named as app2SD Pro could not move the apps to the SDCard of Kindle Fire.
It can only goes to UnInstall page and info for each app.
Anyone handle it?
Or any app that could make Kindle Fire choose if the new app should be installed directly to SDCard instead of default RAM?

Because the apps2sd moves the apps to the external SD card. The Fire does not support SD cards.

You do not need to worry about app storage

There's a partition on the Kindle memory that's mounted as "sdcard", so wouldn't apps2sd move it to there? There doesn't seem to be a difference between an external sdcard and the Kindle parition "sdcard", except that the partition isn't removable.

Why would you bother moving anything? You have the same amount of storage whether you use the sdcard or not. It's not a real sdcard, just a partition of your internal storage. If you run out of room then sure, use it, but I can think of other things to stick on the sdcard partition (like media).

My Kindle Fire's internal storage is nearly full but my SD card partition is showing 5gb free. There must be a way to move apps. No problem running apps from the partition, there are apps that automatically installed to the SD card partition. Any ideas?

Give this a shot....
Look at the memory being used by both areas under Devices.
Using Titanium Backup, press and hold on one of the larger apps until a menu appears. On that menu will be an entry to move to SDcard. Use it.
Now go back to devices and see what changed...
Apps2SD doesn't do that because when you click on an app, it doesn't give you a move to sdcard option.
Graphic showing the menu after pressing and holding on the App Plants Vs Zombies...
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Before memory and after the move memory values

krelvinaz said:
Give this a shot....
Look at the memory being used by both areas under Devices.
Using Titanium Backup, press and hold on one of the larger apps until a menu appears. On that menu will be an entry to move to SDcard. Use it.
Now go back to devices and see what changed...
Apps2SD doesn't do that because when you click on an app, it doesn't give you a move to sdcard option.
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Thanks, but my Fire isn't rooted and Titanium Backup won't work...tried it.

You can use the following commands to move an app to the sdcard partition...
Code:
adb shell pm install -r -s /data/app/your.app.here-1.apk
or
adb shell pm install -r -s /data/app/your.app.here-2.apk
You would have to be rooted, so you should definitely consider rooting your device as it makes these tasks easier.
An alternative, root not required, is to pull the apk (use "adb shell pm list packages" to find the name of the app) and then run "adb install -r -s your.app.here-1.apk".

Plants vs zombies
hey mate,
I can see you have plants vs zombies installed, but i tried everything to get it to work and it wouldn't, it keeps exiting or telling me that my device is not supported.
I have a rooted KF with a modded stock rom which has google play + store installed.
Can you guide me on how to get it to work? I even tried the honey comb version and it keeps exiting at the loading screen.
Thank you, but this game means a LOT to my daughter who
cheers

intabli said:
hey mate,
I can see you have plants vs zombies installed, but i tried everything to get it to work and it wouldn't, it keeps exiting or telling me that my device is not supported.
I have a rooted KF with a modded stock rom which has google play + store installed.
Can you guide me on how to get it to work? I even tried the honey comb version and it keeps exiting at the loading screen.
Thank you, but this game means a LOT to my daughter who
cheers
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have you tried downloading it from the android appstore instead of the google play store?

[Q] Memory

I may be missing something completely obvious but theres about 6gb of memory missing on my phone.
All together I have 27gb 2gb of which is reserved for apps so there is 25gb remaining.
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But if I open the folder and check the space all of the files are taking up I see this:
25.2-10.4=14.8
14.8-8.74=6.06
So there is 6.06gb being used somewhere, is this normal? and does anyone know where it is?

You can try this:
Go to Control Panel on your PC, click Folder Options, select View tab, select "Show hidden files, folder, and drives", and uncheck "Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)" Click Apply button and refresh your HTC Storage folder to see if there is any change to the total space used.

Quite a funny discovery you made there.
I don't have the answer, just some suppositions
-I heard there was a swap on the One X, however I think it's not supposed to be on this partition and not that big so it doesn't explain the problem
-HTC is fooling us with a fake size (probably not)
-Windows doesn't see some hidden files, however Android is Unix based and hidden unix files are not displayed as such by Windows so I think hidden files could only be added by you
-Windows doesn't display the good size (what values does android display ?)

joplayer said:
Quite a funny discovery you made there.
I don't have the answer, just some suppositions
-I heard there was a swap on the One X, however I think it's not supposed to be on this partition and not that big so it doesn't explain the problem
-HTC is fooling us with a fake size (probably not)
-Windows doesn't see some hidden files, however Android is Unix based and hidden unix files are not displayed as such by Windows so I think hidden files could only be added by you
-Windows doesn't display the good size (what values does android display ?)
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The phone displays the amount of memory windows does:
I'm thinking it may be some sort of cache partition but I'm not rooted so finding it would be hard.
Bigmille said:
You can try this:
Go to Control Panel on your PC, click Folder Options, select View tab, select "Show hidden files, folder, and drives", and uncheck "Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)" Click Apply button and refresh your HTC Storage folder to see if there is any change to the total space used.
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I thought this was it too but it didn't make any difference when I enabled it.

It's pretty much the same thing you see with harddrives. Manufacturers use GB counting (1kb=1000 bytes) while pc's use GiB's (1kb=1024 bytes) On 32GB drive you would loose 3.2GiB due to the conversion. leaving you with 29.8GiB of raw space.
2.11GiB is reserved for /data So that makes 27.7GiB
/system 1GiB
/cache 314mb
leaving 26.4gGiB of raw space for /mnt/sdcard
After that some space is lost due to formatting, leaving you with 25GiB of free space.

svenvv said:
It's pretty much the same thing you see with harddrives. Manufacturers use GB counting (1kb=1000 bytes) while pc's use GiB's (1kb=1024 bytes) On 32GB drive you would loose 3.2GiB due to the conversion. leaving you with 29.8GiB of raw space.
2.11GiB is reserved for /data So that makes 27.7GiB
/system 1GiB
/cache 314mb
leaving 26.4gGiB of raw space for /mnt/sdcard
After that some space is lost due to formatting, leaving you with 25GiB of free space.
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I understand this but the issue I am having is that on /mnt/sdcard there is 6.06gb unaccounted for.

Run a Terminal emulator (you don't need root) and run the 'df' command
you should get a partition list. There you can see the /mnt/sdcard partition is only 25GiB in size. The rest is used for the system

svenvv said:
Run a Terminal emulator (you don't need root) and run the 'df' command
you should get a partition list. There you can see the /mnt/sdcard partition is only 25GiB in size. The rest is used for the system
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You are correct /mnt/sdcard is 25gb in size but I only have 10gb remaining when the files stored on it have come to a total of about 9gb so I'm wondering what is taking up the remaining 6gb.
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How about copy everything from the SD to your PC, format the SD and copy everything back to see how much space you got left?

Bigmille said:
How about copy everything from the SD to your PC, format the SD and copy everything back to see how much space you got left?
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I was trying to avoid doing this but if I can't find the answer soon its probably what I'll end up doing.
Edit:
I took your advice and deleted everything from the internal memory and I still only had 18gb(instead of 25). I then formatted the internal memory which brought me to 25gb and when I copied everthing back I now have about 16gb(instead of 10).
Its still bugging me not knowing what was causing it but at least its fixed.
Thanks
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[Q] Internal memory question

So I have flashed a couple of different ROMs some debloated TW some full featured TW and some without TW and the internal memory always stays at 9.72 available even without all the bloat. My question is is there a way to change that can I format or re partition the internal storage without screwing everything up royally???

Short answer: No. Too risky.
A little more information, mostly speculation. Repartitioning your device's internal memory could very easily leave you with a brick. While it may be possible, the risks are greater than any benefit.
This may be totally off-base, but I'd guess that you'd probably need a custom bootloader redesigned with the proper starting and ending addresses for the new partitions, especially if you wanted to resize any partitions that affect the way the phone starts up (boot and system, I'd imagine).
edit: Does anyone think it may be possible to repurpose some of the unused space on the system partition of some ROMs as extended media storage through the use of symlinks? Not sure I'm saying exactly what I mean, and I might be completely misunderstanding how symlinks work, but here's my thought:
e.g. Create a folder in /system/extended_media_storage. Create a symlink on data/media/ pointing to /system/extended_media_storage.

crawler9 said:
Short answer: No. Too risky.
A little more information, mostly speculation. Repartitioning your device's internal memory could very easily leave you with a brick. While it may be possible, the risks are greater than any benefit.
This may be totally off-base, but I'd guess that you'd probably need a custom bootloader redesigned with the proper starting and ending addresses for the new partitions, especially if you wanted to resize any partitions that affect the way the phone starts up (boot and system, I'd imagine).
edit: Does anyone think it may be possible to repurpose some of the unused space on the system partition of some ROMs as extended media storage through the use of symlinks? Not sure I'm saying exactly what I mean, and I might be completely misunderstanding how symlinks work, but here's my thought:
e.g. Create a folder in /system/extended_media_storage. Create a symlink on data/media/ pointing to /system/extended_media_storage.
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I figured that would be the case, ill just stick to using folder mount to use up my SD card when needed.
Thanks

crawler9 said:
edit: Does anyone think it may be possible to repurpose some of the unused space on the system partition of some ROMs as extended media storage through the use of symlinks? Not sure I'm saying exactly what I mean, and I might be completely misunderstanding how symlinks work, but here's my thought:
e.g. Create a folder in /system/extended_media_storage. Create a symlink on data/media/ pointing to /system/extended_media_storage.
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An interesting idea, but a quick attempt didn't work. Easier to just get a big MicroSD and symlink your media folders to that.
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Thetenthdr said:
An interesting idea, but a quick attempt didn't work. Easier to just get a big MicroSD and symlink your media folders to that.
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Thanks for trying it out and letting me know. I doubted it would actually work, but figured I might throw the idea out there just in case.
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linux experience
my experience with Linux suggests that a simple repartition resize would suffice, if possible.
In Linux there are nice programs like GParted that can change, create, modify partitions Live, It is risky but I've never lost data.
Those were windows machines running Linux distros though. Android is a form of Linux but I'm not sure what you can do partition wise.
Not quite that far in my quest of knowledge and understanding.
The thing is, your partitions are set and don't change, even when you flash, so basically that space is pre-allocated by the factory.
even when you flash, you aren't flashing the partition structure, just the data inside it (those memory addresses), IF after you flashed with the No Bloatware Flash theoretically you should be able to resize that particular partition and also resize the device storage partition in sequence to a bigger size. All that should be possible without affecting the important system partitions etc. Even if you did **** it up, the system and recovery partitions are hidden and you should be able to do a full rewrite recovery with some software and a usb cord, theoretically. You would need to be accurate, not just precise when you resize the partitions. As a matter of fact if you did do it, you should resize according to actual drive blocks and not bytes.
Just my 2 cents, Ayyyyy

insufficient memory/"not enough storage space" problems

I've been having this problem on my i747(16GB, 4.1x JB, rooted with CWM) for a few months now, but they just got worse as time went on. I've yanked every possible picture, video (what few I had ), and apps I could think of; I copied off/deleted old CWM and TB backups, and it STILL gives me the dreaded "not enough storage space" message. The last time I recovered about 2GB, but that lasted less than a month, and that's AFTER I set the camera to store on the extSDcard (8GB, has about 6.3GB left this go 'round), and moved the maybe 2gb of music I've had lately.
I'd show you the Storage screeshot: but I don't have enough memory to take a picture--it only has 392m available now!! :WTF: so I took a picture with my tablet:
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I started that process about 40 minutes ago... And it STILL hasn't reported anything!!!
Also, I cannot uninstall anything, either thru the application manager or the play store. I've booted to recovery, wiped cache (no option in my CWM to wipe dalvik), wiped dalvik with CWM app after boot, and deleted every possible app, text, and picture I can find--oh, and the picture gallery won't open because I don't have enough memory. I've dug thru every possible directory with ES File Explorer, and deleted everything I can think of that was expendable... And still no luck. I can't gain squat. And I STILL can't get the phone to uninstall any apps at all. AT ALL.
And: this go'round took less than three weeks for the phone to clog itself like an overloaded toilet---i thought only Winblows had this kind of memory problems!!!
I'm working now on copying any data I can, and making an app list, before I try a factory reset. I've unmounted the extSDcard, and will remove it before I reset.
But I still need advice. I need to know what's going on, what's wrong, and how to fix it for freaking good, because given the logarithmic rate of decay I'm seeing, the next clog up will take about a week--and THAT will send me into a psychotic break and probably into the back door of the nearest att location with a silenced uzi! [/I'M JUST KIDDING HSA!!!]
Thanks in advance...

I had a problem similar to this, although not quite as extreme but it turned out to be the lost+found folder in the /system folder (i think, there is one there and on each sd card). Not sure about ES explorer but root explorer would show it as empty until i gave the folder full permisions, and even then couldn't modify it. I ended up using the file explorer in TWRP to delete the contents of the folder. With CWM you can load up aroma file manager from the recovery and delete the junk that way. If you've never used it before you 'flash' it like you would any other zip but it doesn't actually flash anything, just loads up into memory and gets dumped when you exit so it shouldn't be a problem with your low storage.

NTFS is now working on Windows 10 Mobile (Plus Tutorial on how to symbolic link)

Just ordered a brand new 32GB Sandisk Ultra SD Card for my Lumia 535 since my 2 year old Sandisk Ultra 16GB is already dead (you served me well...).
I already posted here almost like 4 months ago about a question on how can I enable NTFS support on Windows 10 Mobile, but since anyone doesn't even know the answer and yes the current build of 10 Mobile on that time I posted it doesn't even support external NTFS support just yet...
Okay back to the topic, now I got my new sdcard, I just wonder if the current build my Lumia is running (10586.11, yes I haven't upgraded to 10586.36 just yet, will do that later) supports external NTFS storage support (Continuum and OTG features on the Lumia 950/XL needs it). So I decided to format my sdcard to NTFS, plug it in to my Lumia 535 with my fingers crossed and HOLY CRAP IT WORKS !!! Read/Write works too on NTFS which is great!
NTFS features works too, like mklink (symbolic link for Windows), which can be quite useful once Project Astoria comes back to future builds of 10 Mobile or other hacks possible with symlinks...
Anyways, here's an example on how to mklink the documents folder on C:\ to your sdcard (D:\ )
On Your PC, create directories of C:\Data\Users\Public\Documents\TestFolder
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On your sdcard, create a documents folder there, but don't create a "TestFolder" folder
After that, run command prompt as administrator
Now type in "mklink /j D:\Documents\TestFolder C:\Data\Users\Public\Documents\TestFolder" without quotes (change D: with your sdcard's drive letter on your PC)
You should see a "TestFolder" shortcut on your sdcard, but it's not really a shortcut...
Plug your sdcard back to your Lumia
To test if Symbolic Link works, create a random file on \Documents\TestFolder folder on your phone's C:\ drive, then see if that file exists on your sdcard\Documents\TestFolder\ too... If it does exists even you didn't create that file on your sdcard, symlink works!
I haven't tried reversing the junction just yet thou (MTP doesn't allow it, maybe root access can... Darn we can do some awesome hacks with reversed junction XD )
And oh yeah, there's some sort of a weird bug with NTFS when installing apps to sdcard with NTFS... It just throws 0x80073cf6... Not sure if it's just me or what... Will do a hard reset on my Lumia after installing 10586.36 and gonna update this thread if I found anything interesting after the update... Stay tuned
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Nice research

Just a comment on terminology. mklink /j creates a directory junction, not a symbolic link, there are differences between these two. A directory junction is similar in behavior to a symbolic link of directory, however directory junction cannot point to network locations because of the way it is implemented (https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa365006).
Anyway, that's great that NTFS is supported, finally Windows 10 Mobile is becoming a grown OS

Junction doesn't help much but with symbolic links things get interesting.
I managed to write files in protected folders on my Lumia 950 which is impossible to gain full FS access to ATM.
I created on NTFS formatted SD card a symbolic link to C:\Data\USERS\DefApps\APPDATA\ROAMING\MICROSOFT\Network\Connections\Pbk, and with permissions editing of that link (disabling inherited permissions, setting explicit permissions for everyone and changing owner to everyone) I managed to achieve write access to that folder and write a rasphone.pbk configured for my VPN connection. Now I have working VPN on WP10 again
Deleting and overwriting files in that folder doesn't work unless I make symbolic links (with permissions edited the same as above) for each file I want to delete.
Other than this, NTFS is pretty useless on SD card at the moment. Apps can't be installed to it, and if pictures/video storage is set to SD, camera apps will not see the storage and will complain storage is full.

At least a NTFS card can be used to write acces phone system. . Someone can write a list of symbolic link to use on a ntfs formated card? Probably to get acces to windows/packages/oemsettings.reg, change him with a interopunlocked one and then hardreset phone to gain interopcapability?

DLS123 said:
Other than this, NTFS is pretty useless on SD card at the moment. Apps can't be installed to it, and if pictures/video storage is set to SD, camera apps will not see the storage and will complain storage is full.
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Did a factory reset after upgrading to 10586.36, still the same error code throws for installing and/or moving apps to SD with NTFS but camera works fine for me...
Anyways, have you tried symlinking any file to C:\Windows and see if read/write actually works?
augustinionut said:
At least a NTFS card can be used to write acces phone system. . Someone can write a list of symbolic link to use on a ntfs formated card? Probably to get acces to windows/packages/oemsettings.reg, change him with a interopunlocked one and then hardreset phone to gain interopcapability?
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Hmmm... Might actually gonna do that soon, but for now I formatted my card back to FAT32 because of some storage problems lol!
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Anyways, have you tried symlinking any file to C:\Windows and see if read/write actually works?
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Not yet. My goal was just to have working VPN and I stopped there once I had it. But I will try it as soon as I find a spare SD card I can play with.

Great Job guys! Looks like I'll have something fun to play around with .

How did you edit the rasphone file?

Hulzer said:
How did you edit the rasphone file?
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With notepad on a PC. It's just a text file.

Yes, but I can't copy it from the phone or write it back. Any hint? Thanks

@DLS123 Could you please go in detail how you got read/write access? I can see the rasphone file but can't copy or write.

Got it!
I had to delete VPN connections on the phone before I could copy the modified file.
Thanks.