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Have searched and searched but cannot find something directly pertaining to System Rom memory full.
What would cause Rom being full and what can be done to make it not so? It's a stock rooted system and all apps that can be have been moved to SD card and everything not needed uninstalled. Handcent, Dolphin, and everything else could think of is set to save cache to SD card as well.
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My recommendation would be do a Nandroid and save your apps with BT.. and do a hard reset and see if that fix the problem.... I never had this problem before.....
Edit: Now I want to know too... cuz my is acting weird now too...
260MB (24.7 MB free) can anybody tells us why this happen....????

1107963 said:
Edit: Now I want to know too... cuz my is acting weird now too...
260MB (24.7 MB free) can anybody tells us why this happen....????
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Was traveling yesterday so wasn't able to do any research but no matter what I do it will not get above 7.66MB free. Now after reloading the time doesn't auto update when crossing a time zone... gotta find that too.

Ben,
That's the way it is due to amazing silly usage of resources by HTC in the Incredible. du ./system = 260M and that's it. If you're using the stock system, then it just happens to add up to about ~7M free. Unless you're going to reapportion all the initial partitions, then you can't do anything about it.
All the ROMs are the same unless they've made radical changes, but all the ROMs will have different amounts of free out of the 260M.
If you want to 'fix' it, then you've got all you need if rooted and have TB. Just use ADB or a terminal emulator to do something along these lines (being careful and taking notes so you can retrace the steps if needed):
1) su ; mount system r/w (you can tell which partition it is using 'df' or 'mount' command from a shell and it is of type yaffs2
2) cd /system/app ; ls -l *[Hh][Tt][Cc]* ; ls -l *[Ss][Ee][Nn][Ss][Ee]* and check out which are kind of sizable. All you care about is stuff that is under ./system/... because things like handcent and other userspace apps are really in /data/app, and have nothing to do with this problem.
3) When you locate a few (you can do 2&3 in reverse if it makes more sense) big ones, then use TB to 'freeze' as many *SENSE* and *HTC* as you think you don't use (be careful or you'll have to restore a backup). If it's running OK with the things frozen, then you can return to the file system (./system/app) and delete the ones you've frozen. You can tell from TB which filenames go with which apps you've frozen.
4) Delete them or move them if it makes you feel safer to /sdcard/{create a dir here}.
5) df ; and look at free space in /system. It should be getting larger. When you've got ~20-30 free, you've got plenty for most things, and can remount /system a r/o (read-only).
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Why? For example: If you wanted to install, for some reason, one of Lou's kernels, where he for some reason, uses separate modules for everything (It is nice in desktop linux, but sucks in the droids), then they'll go into /system/lib/modules/* and eat up a ton of space (Like 25M), and basically fail on your current system.
If you use one of Ziggy's kernels, he tends to compile all modules but Wifi into the kernel itself, coming up with a similarly sized kernel as Lou but with the functionality built-in. I use all the functionality so I like that, but if you're using the stock kernel and don't care, then forget that.
HTC did some nutty stuff with this thing, like /emmc having 6+ GB but none of it is of much use to most users, then /data/data which is where all the userspace programs keep their data and libs, is tiny, giving way to the 'out of space' message when installing programs. Google Earth, for example uses 30M in libs itself.
The only reason I used the syntax *[sS][Ee]* etc, was because I fixed this up long enough ago so that I forgot if Sense and HTC apps were case sensitive (I mean used upper case and lower or some combo of those), so this is just covering bases.
If you don't use much social networking stuff (99% of HTC & Sense apps), then you don't need a lot of /system/app files and will do OK. If you use all of that, then I suppose you're stuck unless you can locate other things you never use. (there has to be stuff you don't use). If it gets deleted from /system/... then it releases space to you in what you're calling the system ROM.
Use caution -- Changing anything from /system is asking for trouble, so make sure it's not a showstopper.
Good luck - Hashi

Thanks hachamacha for all the info. After looking at the /system and /system/app folder, I can see several files that I care nothing about. I'm going to do some research and try and find some dependencies on some of the files cause seeing files like stocks, twitter, newsreader, friend stream, radio, and amazonmp3 could clear up a lot of room. Just don't want to freeze/move any of them then discover they are a requirement for some other function.
Guessing I only need to clear up a MB or two as the only time I see the warning is when installing a program or have several running at once. It doesn't lock up and require a batt pull, just freaks me right the hell out.

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BenHolliday said:
Thanks hachamacha for all the info. After looking at the /system and /system/app folder, I can see several files that I care nothing about. I'm going to do some research and try and find some dependencies on some of the files cause seeing files like stocks, twitter, newsreader, friend stream, radio, and amazonmp3 could clear up a lot of room. Just don't want to freeze/move any of them then discover they are a requirement for some other function.
Guessing I only need to clear up a MB or two as the only time I see the warning is when installing a program or have several running at once. It doesn't lock up and require a batt pull, just freaks me right the hell out.
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You may want to checkout Autorun Manager (free app from market) to see what apps startup automatically, and more importantly, have interdependencies with other apps/programs.
Specifically, it tells you what apps have receivers, and gives you the ability to disable programs from autostarting. It's another way of disabling an app or program temporarily instead of randomly disabling/freezing apps in TB.
Might help. Might not.
Much love

chris7os said:
Specifically, it tells you what apps have receivers, and gives you the ability to disable programs from autostarting. It's another way of disabling an app or program temporarily instead of randomly disabling/freezing apps in TB.
Might help. Might not.
Much love
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Kewls and thanks. That it will tell what depends on the programs is what I'm looking for. No time to list all of them, but I froze about 20+ apps with TB. Didn't have any troubles all day yesterday but maybe can *.bak them and move to computer until needed.

Low Space warning on ICS

I am currently running the leaked ICS build 0.12. I keep getting a warning that my tablet storage space is getting low. But I don't understand how that's possible. Because on my storage in settings, it says I have total space 5.36GB. Here is a picture
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By jakob9595 at 2012-04-14
If you add all that together I should have plenty of space not 168MB free.

Have you rebooted? Do you have any "corpses" (left over game data, etc) in your internal storage? Try running this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013063 to see if helps remove anything which is taking up space (and doesn't show up in the storage menu) which you don't know about.

Can't even download it says my tablet doesn't have sufficient space to download it from the play store.

jakob95 said:
Can't even download it says my tablet doesn't have sufficient space to download it from the play store.
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You could move something(s) to your external sd card (temporarily), download and install the app, then move it/them back.

Theonew said:
You could move something(s) to your external sd card (temporarily), download and install the app, then move it/them back.
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How do I do that? No option for that on this tablet.

jakob95 said:
How do I do that? No option for that on this tablet.
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Use root explorer (or some file manager which allows moving - almost all should).

Theonew said:
Use root explorer (or some file manager which allows moving - almost all should).
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In which folder are your apps located in? I want to move Shadowgun./

jakob95 said:
In which folder are your apps located in? I want to move Shadowgun./
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Shadowgun's data is located in Android/data/. Apps on the other hand are located in /data/app/ and /system/app/ (leave those where they are). Judging by the free space on your external sd card, Shadowgun's data will not fit. You'll probably have to move some things to your pc (or use a different sd card).

Okay I moved everything I needed and installed the SD Maid. Now what should I do?

jakob95 said:
Okay I moved everything I needed and installed the SD Maid. Now what should I do?
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Run it. Clean apps, corpses, system, and you can also check for duplicates.

Theonew said:
Run it. Clean apps, corpses, system, and you can also check for duplicates.
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This won't delete any of my apps or data right? To do all of that I have to buy the Pro version.

jakob95 said:
This won't delete any of my apps or data right?
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No. You can check if you want though.

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No. You can check if you want though.
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This scans all my biggest files and here are the results.
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
No way can I fill up my storage with that. That's barely anything.

jakob95 said:
This scans all my biggest files and here are the results.
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
No way can I fill up my storage with that. That's barely anything.
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Did any of the other option help (corpses, etc.)?

Yeah I did all the sections, and I cleared up about 15MB lmao.

jakob95 said:
Yeah I did all the sections, and I cleared up about 15MB lmao.
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It seems like you're going to have to do a factory reset. I would also recommend flashing this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589034 since it will give you a bit more internal storage.

Hmm I think I will just wait until the official ICS update, and flash that. Maybe that will fix my problem. Anyways thanks for the help.

I just reset the tablet, and it fixed my problem. Restored everything with Titanium Backup and everything is working well.

/data/gps
Had the same problem, also waited for an update to solve it, but nothing changed. I checked the system directories, which are on the same partition but you have no right to look into them without root (pretty dumb if you ask me). I found a dir /data/gps filled with some useless txt files. Then after deleting them with Ghost Commander nearly 2 GB of free space reappeared.
Sorry it took me so long, not checking xda regularly lately.

Albion von Darx said:
Had the same problem, also waited for an update to solve it, but nothing changed. I checked the system directories, which are on the same partition but you have no right to look into them without root (pretty dumb if you ask me). I found a dir /data/gps filled with some useless txt files. Then after deleting them with Ghost Commander nearly 2 GB of free space reappeared.
Sorry it took me so long, not checking xda regularly lately.
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Oh My God, I had over 10GB of files in this folder. Went from a little over 100MB free to 10.63GB. I assume this is GPS cache, but it really needs to be capped so that the older stuff gets deleted.

[Q] Memory

I may be missing something completely obvious but theres about 6gb of memory missing on my phone.
All together I have 27gb 2gb of which is reserved for apps so there is 25gb remaining.
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But if I open the folder and check the space all of the files are taking up I see this:
25.2-10.4=14.8
14.8-8.74=6.06
So there is 6.06gb being used somewhere, is this normal? and does anyone know where it is?

You can try this:
Go to Control Panel on your PC, click Folder Options, select View tab, select "Show hidden files, folder, and drives", and uncheck "Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)" Click Apply button and refresh your HTC Storage folder to see if there is any change to the total space used.

Quite a funny discovery you made there.
I don't have the answer, just some suppositions
-I heard there was a swap on the One X, however I think it's not supposed to be on this partition and not that big so it doesn't explain the problem
-HTC is fooling us with a fake size (probably not)
-Windows doesn't see some hidden files, however Android is Unix based and hidden unix files are not displayed as such by Windows so I think hidden files could only be added by you
-Windows doesn't display the good size (what values does android display ?)

joplayer said:
Quite a funny discovery you made there.
I don't have the answer, just some suppositions
-I heard there was a swap on the One X, however I think it's not supposed to be on this partition and not that big so it doesn't explain the problem
-HTC is fooling us with a fake size (probably not)
-Windows doesn't see some hidden files, however Android is Unix based and hidden unix files are not displayed as such by Windows so I think hidden files could only be added by you
-Windows doesn't display the good size (what values does android display ?)
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The phone displays the amount of memory windows does:
I'm thinking it may be some sort of cache partition but I'm not rooted so finding it would be hard.
Bigmille said:
You can try this:
Go to Control Panel on your PC, click Folder Options, select View tab, select "Show hidden files, folder, and drives", and uncheck "Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)" Click Apply button and refresh your HTC Storage folder to see if there is any change to the total space used.
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I thought this was it too but it didn't make any difference when I enabled it.

It's pretty much the same thing you see with harddrives. Manufacturers use GB counting (1kb=1000 bytes) while pc's use GiB's (1kb=1024 bytes) On 32GB drive you would loose 3.2GiB due to the conversion. leaving you with 29.8GiB of raw space.
2.11GiB is reserved for /data So that makes 27.7GiB
/system 1GiB
/cache 314mb
leaving 26.4gGiB of raw space for /mnt/sdcard
After that some space is lost due to formatting, leaving you with 25GiB of free space.

svenvv said:
It's pretty much the same thing you see with harddrives. Manufacturers use GB counting (1kb=1000 bytes) while pc's use GiB's (1kb=1024 bytes) On 32GB drive you would loose 3.2GiB due to the conversion. leaving you with 29.8GiB of raw space.
2.11GiB is reserved for /data So that makes 27.7GiB
/system 1GiB
/cache 314mb
leaving 26.4gGiB of raw space for /mnt/sdcard
After that some space is lost due to formatting, leaving you with 25GiB of free space.
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I understand this but the issue I am having is that on /mnt/sdcard there is 6.06gb unaccounted for.

Run a Terminal emulator (you don't need root) and run the 'df' command
you should get a partition list. There you can see the /mnt/sdcard partition is only 25GiB in size. The rest is used for the system

svenvv said:
Run a Terminal emulator (you don't need root) and run the 'df' command
you should get a partition list. There you can see the /mnt/sdcard partition is only 25GiB in size. The rest is used for the system
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You are correct /mnt/sdcard is 25gb in size but I only have 10gb remaining when the files stored on it have come to a total of about 9gb so I'm wondering what is taking up the remaining 6gb.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

How about copy everything from the SD to your PC, format the SD and copy everything back to see how much space you got left?

Bigmille said:
How about copy everything from the SD to your PC, format the SD and copy everything back to see how much space you got left?
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I was trying to avoid doing this but if I can't find the answer soon its probably what I'll end up doing.
Edit:
I took your advice and deleted everything from the internal memory and I still only had 18gb(instead of 25). I then formatted the internal memory which brought me to 25gb and when I copied everthing back I now have about 16gb(instead of 10).
Its still bugging me not knowing what was causing it but at least its fixed.
Thanks
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[GUIDE] How to set up LINK2SD for your Android

CREDIT: First of all this is not my tutorial and all credit goes to Adam Parnala for creating this easy tutorial. I decided to bring it to us off the web for easier access. Please remember to use caution while trying to modify anything on your phone. It is your responsibility to follow the instructions to the letter else you may cause some problems. I have used this particular guide several times on other phones and this one as well. Root is required.
Link2SD can move not only the application file, but also the dalvic-cache and library files of the application. This means that data will be the only one left to consume your internal memory thus installing applications and games would be easier because you can install anything you want without worrying about the famous low memory problem. Furthermore, Link2sd covers all files even moving widgets and the unmovable applications to the 2nd partition of your SD card. Please be advised that your version may not look the same and mine but the information should not have changed. I strongly suggest that you download and install busybox too.
This is a step by step guide on how you can run Link2SD on your device. This tutorial will work for both stock and custom ROMs. Follow all the instructions carefully to eliminate possible problems.
1. First you have to download Mini Tool Partition Wizard Manager. You can download it HERE.
2. Insert your SD card to a card reader and open it on your computer.
3. Back up all your files to the computer because partitioning will wipe your data.
4. Open Mini Tool in your computer. Locate your SD card (be careful in choosing and make sure not to choose the drive of your computer)
5. Right click and choose Delete.
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7. Select “Create as: PRIMARY”
8.Next, create an ext2/ext3/ext4 partition. This is where your apps will go so I suggest you allocate enough memory for your purposes.
9.Select “Create As: PRIMARY” (make sure that it is both set to primary because it will not work if it is not set to primary)
10. Click the “Apply” button on the top left corner and wait for it to finish the process. Done.
11.Put back your SD card to your phone and switch it on.
12. Download and install Link2sd from Google Play Store. .
13. Open Link2sd and you will be asked for root privileges so allow it. You will be prompted to choose between ext2, ext3, ext4 and FAT32. Select the one that you picked earlier.
14. It will say mount script created. Reboot your phone now.
15. Open link2sd and if the message doesn't show up, you succeeded
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16. Go to Link2sd>Settings>check the autolink (to automatically move apps upon installation)
17. If you already have some apps, select the app you wish to move then select “Create Link” (be sure to check the three files: app, dalvic-cache and library files)
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19. To check your memory, select “Storage Info”. This will show you the current state of your internal memory, FAT32, and ext* partition.
Now you’re done and ready to install vast amount of applications as you wish!

unable to use 2nd partition
After done everything I am only able to link the 1st partition.'fat32, . Nothing is going to 2nd partition I,e- sdexnt2.
In setting menu I add this also but nothing is moving to the second partition help

Sdext2 should not work because artas182x said that only sdext3 is the only partition that works with his cwm.
LG-P769v20h. 'this the season to give thanks so hit the button already!

Thank you!
Finally found a way to get Link2SD to work on my rooted Virgin Mobile Galaxy S3.

Good,, I'm glad it helped
LG-P769 rooted, debloated, over clocked, under volted, and linked. 'Tis the season to give thanks so hit the button already!

I don't have an SD card reader on my PC can I still proceed without doing a save to PC?

insufficient memory/"not enough storage space" problems

I've been having this problem on my i747(16GB, 4.1x JB, rooted with CWM) for a few months now, but they just got worse as time went on. I've yanked every possible picture, video (what few I had ), and apps I could think of; I copied off/deleted old CWM and TB backups, and it STILL gives me the dreaded "not enough storage space" message. The last time I recovered about 2GB, but that lasted less than a month, and that's AFTER I set the camera to store on the extSDcard (8GB, has about 6.3GB left this go 'round), and moved the maybe 2gb of music I've had lately.
I'd show you the Storage screeshot: but I don't have enough memory to take a picture--it only has 392m available now!! :WTF: so I took a picture with my tablet:
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I started that process about 40 minutes ago... And it STILL hasn't reported anything!!!
Also, I cannot uninstall anything, either thru the application manager or the play store. I've booted to recovery, wiped cache (no option in my CWM to wipe dalvik), wiped dalvik with CWM app after boot, and deleted every possible app, text, and picture I can find--oh, and the picture gallery won't open because I don't have enough memory. I've dug thru every possible directory with ES File Explorer, and deleted everything I can think of that was expendable... And still no luck. I can't gain squat. And I STILL can't get the phone to uninstall any apps at all. AT ALL.
And: this go'round took less than three weeks for the phone to clog itself like an overloaded toilet---i thought only Winblows had this kind of memory problems!!!
I'm working now on copying any data I can, and making an app list, before I try a factory reset. I've unmounted the extSDcard, and will remove it before I reset.
But I still need advice. I need to know what's going on, what's wrong, and how to fix it for freaking good, because given the logarithmic rate of decay I'm seeing, the next clog up will take about a week--and THAT will send me into a psychotic break and probably into the back door of the nearest att location with a silenced uzi! [/I'M JUST KIDDING HSA!!!]
Thanks in advance...

I had a problem similar to this, although not quite as extreme but it turned out to be the lost+found folder in the /system folder (i think, there is one there and on each sd card). Not sure about ES explorer but root explorer would show it as empty until i gave the folder full permisions, and even then couldn't modify it. I ended up using the file explorer in TWRP to delete the contents of the folder. With CWM you can load up aroma file manager from the recovery and delete the junk that way. If you've never used it before you 'flash' it like you would any other zip but it doesn't actually flash anything, just loads up into memory and gets dumped when you exit so it shouldn't be a problem with your low storage.