Have searched and searched but cannot find something directly pertaining to System Rom memory full.
What would cause Rom being full and what can be done to make it not so? It's a stock rooted system and all apps that can be have been moved to SD card and everything not needed uninstalled. Handcent, Dolphin, and everything else could think of is set to save cache to SD card as well.
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My recommendation would be do a Nandroid and save your apps with BT.. and do a hard reset and see if that fix the problem.... I never had this problem before.....
Edit: Now I want to know too... cuz my is acting weird now too...
260MB (24.7 MB free) can anybody tells us why this happen....????
1107963 said:
Edit: Now I want to know too... cuz my is acting weird now too...
260MB (24.7 MB free) can anybody tells us why this happen....????
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Was traveling yesterday so wasn't able to do any research but no matter what I do it will not get above 7.66MB free. Now after reloading the time doesn't auto update when crossing a time zone... gotta find that too.
Ben,
That's the way it is due to amazing silly usage of resources by HTC in the Incredible. du ./system = 260M and that's it. If you're using the stock system, then it just happens to add up to about ~7M free. Unless you're going to reapportion all the initial partitions, then you can't do anything about it.
All the ROMs are the same unless they've made radical changes, but all the ROMs will have different amounts of free out of the 260M.
If you want to 'fix' it, then you've got all you need if rooted and have TB. Just use ADB or a terminal emulator to do something along these lines (being careful and taking notes so you can retrace the steps if needed):
1) su ; mount system r/w (you can tell which partition it is using 'df' or 'mount' command from a shell and it is of type yaffs2
2) cd /system/app ; ls -l *[Hh][Tt][Cc]* ; ls -l *[Ss][Ee][Nn][Ss][Ee]* and check out which are kind of sizable. All you care about is stuff that is under ./system/... because things like handcent and other userspace apps are really in /data/app, and have nothing to do with this problem.
3) When you locate a few (you can do 2&3 in reverse if it makes more sense) big ones, then use TB to 'freeze' as many *SENSE* and *HTC* as you think you don't use (be careful or you'll have to restore a backup). If it's running OK with the things frozen, then you can return to the file system (./system/app) and delete the ones you've frozen. You can tell from TB which filenames go with which apps you've frozen.
4) Delete them or move them if it makes you feel safer to /sdcard/{create a dir here}.
5) df ; and look at free space in /system. It should be getting larger. When you've got ~20-30 free, you've got plenty for most things, and can remount /system a r/o (read-only).
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Why? For example: If you wanted to install, for some reason, one of Lou's kernels, where he for some reason, uses separate modules for everything (It is nice in desktop linux, but sucks in the droids), then they'll go into /system/lib/modules/* and eat up a ton of space (Like 25M), and basically fail on your current system.
If you use one of Ziggy's kernels, he tends to compile all modules but Wifi into the kernel itself, coming up with a similarly sized kernel as Lou but with the functionality built-in. I use all the functionality so I like that, but if you're using the stock kernel and don't care, then forget that.
HTC did some nutty stuff with this thing, like /emmc having 6+ GB but none of it is of much use to most users, then /data/data which is where all the userspace programs keep their data and libs, is tiny, giving way to the 'out of space' message when installing programs. Google Earth, for example uses 30M in libs itself.
The only reason I used the syntax *[sS][Ee]* etc, was because I fixed this up long enough ago so that I forgot if Sense and HTC apps were case sensitive (I mean used upper case and lower or some combo of those), so this is just covering bases.
If you don't use much social networking stuff (99% of HTC & Sense apps), then you don't need a lot of /system/app files and will do OK. If you use all of that, then I suppose you're stuck unless you can locate other things you never use. (there has to be stuff you don't use). If it gets deleted from /system/... then it releases space to you in what you're calling the system ROM.
Use caution -- Changing anything from /system is asking for trouble, so make sure it's not a showstopper.
Good luck - Hashi
Thanks hachamacha for all the info. After looking at the /system and /system/app folder, I can see several files that I care nothing about. I'm going to do some research and try and find some dependencies on some of the files cause seeing files like stocks, twitter, newsreader, friend stream, radio, and amazonmp3 could clear up a lot of room. Just don't want to freeze/move any of them then discover they are a requirement for some other function.
Guessing I only need to clear up a MB or two as the only time I see the warning is when installing a program or have several running at once. It doesn't lock up and require a batt pull, just freaks me right the hell out.
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BenHolliday said:
Thanks hachamacha for all the info. After looking at the /system and /system/app folder, I can see several files that I care nothing about. I'm going to do some research and try and find some dependencies on some of the files cause seeing files like stocks, twitter, newsreader, friend stream, radio, and amazonmp3 could clear up a lot of room. Just don't want to freeze/move any of them then discover they are a requirement for some other function.
Guessing I only need to clear up a MB or two as the only time I see the warning is when installing a program or have several running at once. It doesn't lock up and require a batt pull, just freaks me right the hell out.
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You may want to checkout Autorun Manager (free app from market) to see what apps startup automatically, and more importantly, have interdependencies with other apps/programs.
Specifically, it tells you what apps have receivers, and gives you the ability to disable programs from autostarting. It's another way of disabling an app or program temporarily instead of randomly disabling/freezing apps in TB.
Might help. Might not.
Much love
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Specifically, it tells you what apps have receivers, and gives you the ability to disable programs from autostarting. It's another way of disabling an app or program temporarily instead of randomly disabling/freezing apps in TB.
Might help. Might not.
Much love
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Kewls and thanks. That it will tell what depends on the programs is what I'm looking for. No time to list all of them, but I froze about 20+ apps with TB. Didn't have any troubles all day yesterday but maybe can *.bak them and move to computer until needed.
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In the last few days I've had a cascading series of issues with my Evo, and things keep popping up. Can anyone help me figure out what may be going on?
It began with my phone "losing" the SD card in the middle of daily use. Eventually I formatted the SD card and put my backed up files on it, and everything seemed fine.
I had been experimenting with Go Launcher, and wanted to return to Launcher Pro, so I flashed my themed update - built off of Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo themed Launcher Pro. I've flashed this a number of times with no issues, but this time - nothing happens.
So I DL Launcher pro from the Market, THEN flash Launcher Pro. All I get is the stock Launcher Pro, no matter what I do. So I go poking.
I find out that my /Data folder is completely empty - despite the fact that the themed update puts com.fede.launcher.apk into /Data/Data/App. But there's NOTHING in /Data, and no subfolders.
Finally, I reboot into recovery and run "fix apk ui mismatches", but the recovery hangs up right after saying it's done doing that. I have to pull the battery, and when I reboot, I get perma-stuck at the Whitescreen.
So I Battery out/in, and go into recovery, re-run fix apk ui mismatches, and this time it goes smoothly. Except that when it reboots, I get cascatding apk FCs immediately.
So I go to Nand, and every Nand I flash just gives me a whitescreen.
Finally, I load the PC36IMG.zip onto my sd card, but before I hit "update" (which UNROOTED my phone last time I did that, but at least restored it), I decide to reflash the Rom I've been using.
Reflash, reboot, everything looks peachy. Reflash all the other stuff I normally flash (which includes no new files that I haven't regularly used before, and no new Kernels), and then get to trying to use the phone normally.
Now here's the thing: all my recent data is still there. But on about half of the apps I try to run (including XDA, Gmail, Internet, and Dolphin HD) it begins to open and then immediately closes.
Does anyone have any idea what may be going on, and what I can do?
Thanks.
MDM
MadDogMaddux said:
In the last few days I've had a cascading series of issues with my Evo, and things keep popping up. Can anyone help me figure out what may be going on?
It began with my phone "losing" the SD card in the middle of daily use. Eventually I formatted the SD card and put my backed up files on it, and everything seemed fine.
I had been experimenting with Go Launcher, and wanted to return to Launcher Pro, so I flashed my themed update - built off of Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo themed Launcher Pro. I've flashed this a number of times with no issues, but this time - nothing happens.
So I DL Launcher pro from the Market, THEN flash Launcher Pro. All I get is the stock Launcher Pro, no matter what I do. So I go poking.
I find out that my /Data folder is completely empty - despite the fact that the themed update puts com.fede.launcher.apk into /Data/Data/App. But there's NOTHING in /Data, and no subfolders.
Finally, I reboot into recovery and run "fix apk ui mismatches", but the recovery hangs up right after saying it's done doing that. I have to pull the battery, and when I reboot, I get perma-stuck at the Whitescreen.
So I Battery out/in, and go into recovery, re-run fix apk ui mismatches, and this time it goes smoothly. Except that when it reboots, I get cascatding apk FCs immediately.
So I go to Nand, and every Nand I flash just gives me a whitescreen.
Finally, I load the PC36IMG.zip onto my sd card, but before I hit "update" (which UNROOTED my phone last time I did that, but at least restored it), I decide to reflash the Rom I've been using.
Reflash, reboot, everything looks peachy. Reflash all the other stuff I normally flash (which includes no new files that I haven't regularly used before, and no new Kernels), and then get to trying to use the phone normally.
Now here's the thing: all my recent data is still there. But on about half of the apps I try to run (including XDA, Gmail, Internet, and Dolphin HD) it begins to open and then immediately closes.
Does anyone have any idea what may be going on, and what I can do?
Thanks.
MDM
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On the surface, two things come to mind : Virus and bad RAM. Make no mistake about it, I'm only speculating. If you don't mind, can you flash one of the stock roms and see if you have the same problems? You can download one from here: http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Supersonic/ If you still have those issues using a stock rom, then it's safe to assume a hardware problem (bad RAM is my guess). If you find that those problem disappear with the stock rom then I would start from scratch when reinstalling RLS 5 and that includes reflashing the radios. I wouldn't leave anything to chance.
OK, I'm DLing one of the stock ROMs you linked to. I notice they're all .exe files. How do I go about this?
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OK, I'm DLing one of the stock ROMs you linked to. I notice they're all .exe files. How do I go about this?
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Do NOT install or run the .exe after you finish downloading. I have not noticed that they were executables. Let me find another link for you for a 3.70 RUU zip.
Here you go: http://www.mediafire.com/?t7u904lm502vl7l
OK, that seems to let me run things normally. So I guess I'll assume that all the .zips on my SD card were corrupt and begin downloading/flashing new everything.
Weird, how Stock looks fresh and new since it's been so long since I've used it.
Thanks DJ!
Not sure if this is still part of the problem, or what.
I flashed the Warm TwoPointTwo themed Launcher Pro update, but it doesn't show up anywhere, and when I go to /Data, there's nothing in the folder at all.
MadDogMaddux said:
Not sure if this is still part of the problem, or what.
I flashed the Warm TwoPointTwo themed Launcher Pro update, but it doesn't show up anywhere, and when I go to /Data, there's nothing in the folder at all.
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Have you tried using adb push instead?
If you're flashing it and it's not installing into the data/app folder then it's possible it's not actually being flashed properly.
I could send you a launcherpro apk that I use (the most recent one) but it has some lingering themeing effects in it.
You could use it for troubleshooting as far as installing goes. I have installed it myself many times. LMK.
Thing is, my /Data folder is completely empty. Is that right?
Additionally, it's an update that I've flashed before without issue - so why would it stop flashing correctly?
Come to think of it, I HAVE tried adb pushing it - it still shows up as empty in /data
MadDogMaddux said:
Thing is, my /Data folder is completely empty. Is that right?
Additionally, it's an update that I've flashed before without issue - so why would it stop flashing correctly?
Come to think of it, I HAVE tried adb pushing it - it still shows up as empty in /data
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It sounds like you are looking in the wrong data folder. It's possible.
Can you take a screenshot of the directory you are looking in with some sort of visual indication of the directorys actual location in the structure?
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This is everything right above /data, at the same folder level as /system. /data is the next entry listed right below /d. Opening up the update.zip, it drops the .apk in /data/app
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This is everything right above /data, at the same folder level as /system. /data is the next entry listed right below /d. Opening up the update.zip, it drops the .apk in /data/app
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Assuming that what you say is true (that your /data folder is empty) then the next logical explanation is that your data partition is jacked.
That in itself is amazing because if that is the case it's a wonder that your phone is even operating at all.
Have you tried formatting your partitions (boot, system, data) and reinstalling another rom (preferrably "stock like" rooted roms that don't use any type of sd scripts [a2sd])?
I haven't tried formatting Data, no....I assume I can do that from Recovery or HBoot?
Flashing the stock ROM that dougjamal linked me restored the functionality of my phone - and I think a2sd is optional on Warm, and I haven't set that up.
MadDogMaddux said:
I haven't tried formatting Data, no....I assume I can do that from Recovery or HBoot?
Flashing the stock ROM that dougjamal linked me restored the functionality of my phone - and I think a2sd is optional on Warm, and I haven't set that up.
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Get a hold of calkulins "format all" zip and flash that.
If you flashed a stock rom and it restored your functionality then the possibility exists that the stock rom restored your data partition.
a2sd is not the only possible cause of your problems. Basically anything that moves system files to the sdcard has the potential of messing up your system which is why i don't use any of them anymore. The dalvik2cache script is another possibility. It doesn't move the files to the sdcard but it does move the dalvikcache out of its default location and app makers don't take into account all the modifications that can be done to the devices (really they shouldn't have to anyways) and so will always install extra files to their respective default locations.
If you need more space I suggest going the route of reallocating the partition amounts over moving everything to your sdcard.
MadDogMaddux said:
OK, that seems to let me run things normally. So I guess I'll assume that all the .zips on my SD card were corrupt and begin downloading/flashing new everything.
Weird, how Stock looks fresh and new since it's been so long since I've used it.
Thanks DJ!
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You're very welcome, my friend. I'm glad you got it up and running. In regard to how the stock rom looks, lol, I can believe it. I would definitely feel the same way since I rooted and flashed Myn's RLS 3 days after purchasing my EVO...laughing...Anyway, take care and enjoy your day.
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Get a hold of calkulins "format all" zip and flash that.
If you flashed a stock rom and it restored your functionality then the possibility exists that the stock rom restored your data partition.
a2sd is not the only possible cause of your problems. Basically anything that moves system files to the sdcard has the potential of messing up your system which is why i don't use any of them anymore. The dalvik2cache script is another possibility. It doesn't move the files to the sdcard but it does move the dalvikcache out of its default location and app makers don't take into account all the modifications that can be done to the devices (really they shouldn't have to anyways) and so will always install extra files to their respective default locations.
If you need more space I suggest going the route of reallocating the partition amounts over moving everything to your sdcard.
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Cool, I've got Calk's Format_All on my lappy already, but I think i'll DL it again just to be safe.
OK, so I flashed Calk's Format All, and then reflashed the ROM that DougJamal had me flash previously listed in this thread.
Result?
MadDogMaddux said:
OK, so I flashed Calk's Format All, and then reflashed the ROM that DougJamal had me flash previously listed in this thread.
Result?
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I just noticed your toolbar at the top of the image.
I am assuming (from memory) that you are using astro to view that folder.
If that is the case, astro is your first problem because it can't properly access and show the system files.
You would need to use root explorer to view the data folder. It is a paid app but you get what you pay for.
If you don't want to pay for it you can use terminal emulator and run these commands.
su<enter>
cd data<enter>
ls
After those commands you should have a list
backup, tombstones, system, agent, wimax, dalvik-cache, drm, property, etc.
You should see in that list "app".
Do the command
cd app<enter>
After that command you should see a whole bunch of "com.xxx" filenames. Those are your user installed apps.
Report your results.
LOL!!
Well, every now and again, it is good to be reminded that I'm a moron.
I didn't even think to question whether or not Astro could view that directory, as I remembered viewing it on my phone before.....now I'm realizing that I viewed /data with Ninjamorph. Here's my screenie.
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LOL!!
Well, every now and again, it is good to be reminded that I'm a moron.
I didn't even think to question whether or not Astro could view that directory, as I remembered viewing it on my phone before.....now I'm realizing that I viewed /data with Ninjamorph. Here's my screenie.
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So we have established that your data folder does in fact exist.
What are your problems now?
I'm home early now so if you have gtalk pm me your gtalk name and I can try to help you more.
So on CM6.1 I cannot SEND mms. I can get them but when I attempt to send it does nothing...and every time after that I open the thread it is sitting there for me to send again but it never works.
There are two 'fixes' it seems. One involves deleting a file called telephony.db. (/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db)
What is this file and what else breaks when you delete it? (Is this a file that is 'recreated' when phone boots or does it actually impact something in the system?
I cannot find anything about the file other than it's mention in the steps to delete it to make MMS on CM6 work.
sablesurfer said:
So on CM6.1 I cannot SEND mms. I can get them but when I attempt to send it does nothing...and every time after that I open the thread it is sitting there for me to send again but it never works.
There are two 'fixes' it seems. One involves deleting a file called telephony.db. (/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db)
What is this file and what else breaks when you delete it? (Is this a file that is 'recreated' when phone boots or does it actually impact something in the system?
I cannot find anything about the file other than it's mention in the steps to delete it to make MMS on CM6 work.
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Find out yourself: nandroid your current rom, delete the file and try it out. If something else breaks then restore, if not, well at least you now have a recent backup of your current setup.
It's the database that stores all your sms/mms messages. So when you delete it, it deletes all your messages (so back them up if you want them).
The file will get corrupted on occasion, and that causes problems with your text messaging, so deleting the corrupted file normally fixes it.
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Find out yourself: nandroid your current rom, delete the file and try it out. If something else breaks then restore, if not, well at least you now have a recent backup of your current setup.
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Fenixjn...please take this in the spirit of constructive feedback, but how did your response actually add to the knowledge collected in this thread? If I had wanted to...or was even willing to...don't you think I would have done that?
The issue with your approach, and I have been around the IT world for almost 20yrs is that I have no information on how to even start a regression test of 'delete..and try it out'. If I went to a boss with that plan for a software change they would hit the roof.
I am here to find out what the file is...thereby understanding what the potential impacts are so that I can plan for them. Your approach could have impacts many many days/weeks down the road and then what? Nandroid back to something that has weeks old information about my apps, calls, messages, calendars...??
souleman said:
It's the database that stores all your sms/mms messages. So when you delete it, it deletes all your messages (so back them up if you want them).
The file will get corrupted on occasion, and that causes problems with your text messaging, so deleting the corrupted file normally fixes it.
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Interesting...so is this NOT something that would get wiped by Davlik/Cache/ect? Because I started from a clean slate going from rooted stock to CM...and did them all twice even.
Ok, sorry for multiple threads but trying to keep info straight for now...
I used adb to delete the telephony.db file. This allowed handcent to work but no the stock mms. BTW...telephony.db does NOT store your texting history. That is stored in mmssms.db. I know this because when I renamed mmssms.db my chat history was gone but not when I deleted telephony.db.
Now the follow up is that when you delete telephony.db it is remade when you reboot the phone. It was there right after when I adb'd back in. Same with mmssms.db.
So...back to square one on the CM6.1 mms. It is not working for sending. Am I really the only one that has this issue? Where can I report it as a bug? The 6.1 thread is over 1800 posts long and no one seems to look.
Tying up the threads I had...MMS is now working. Honestly I cannot say why, but maybe someone else will need this info.
The telephony.db and the mmssms.db do not appear to be the cause of the issue. Also you can rename them in adb....and when you reboot they are recreated. I went in and deleted the news and returned the .olds to the right name and all my texts came back.
Not sure if that will ever help anyone, but there you go.
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Fenixjn...please take this in the spirit of constructive feedback, but how did your response actually add to the knowledge collected in this thread? If I had wanted to...or was even willing to...don't you think I would have done that?
The issue with your approach, and I have been around the IT world for almost 20yrs is that I have no information on how to even start a regression test of 'delete..and try it out'. If I went to a boss with that plan for a software change they would hit the roof.
I am here to find out what the file is...thereby understanding what the potential impacts are so that I can plan for them. Your approach could have impacts many many days/weeks down the road and then what? Nandroid back to something that has weeks old information about my apps, calls, messages, calendars...??
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The great thing about your phone is that you can do a backup and restore in less than 5 minutes. Honestly, you don't have to flash your seniored ID badge around here. Just do a backup, delete, restore.
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The great thing about your phone is that you can do a backup and restore in less than 5 minutes. Honestly, you don't have to flash your seniored ID badge around here. Just do a backup, delete, restore.
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I think the OP has a valid point. And just because you CAN simply backup and restore, doesn't mean that the right approach to troubleshooting is to start deleting files and retreating to backup when you discover you've hosed yourself.
These are complex devices, and willy-nilly deleting of files that are not (normally) user-accessible or -editable is a prescription for your own telecom disaster. (A reason that they are not user-editable, perhaps). Asking if anyone can provide insight on the workings of configuration files is a smart technique. Be targeted in your approach, and instead of taking 5 minutes to do X, Y, Z, it takes 2 minutes and gives you better results.
The process is equally as important as the outcome.
I'm kind of curious as to what is in this telephony.db...has anyone tried to cat it? I would, but I'm at work :/
good to know.
Biting in this thread after quite sometime. My CC ( Cheap Chinese ) Jiayu S3 phone cracked. with Debugging prolly disabled I was doomed.
Went through through that Nivranic Journey to restore logs contacts and SMS's and restored contacts.db telephony.db and another <dot>db ( cant rem ) to my HDD. So WHATS inside telephony.db
ALL the metadata regarding your ISP - frequency , geo region etc etc.
Here is a peek of telephony.db
I think part of the data is provided by the ROM itself as as data already known cos a lot of these Telephone providers are totally unknown to me ( not sure if roaming got them there - not likely ) and part of the data added is "learnt"
I think this file is pretty much dispensible as all these facets of info can be "learnt" by the new phone or ROM
I am trying hard to set up a child protection on the desire of a 12 year old because he is spending to much time with playing games.
Unfortunately, his friends have showed him how to reset the desire in the bootloader. (HBoot -> clear storage)
Is there any way how I can lock HBoot with a password or remove the reset function (and maybe the recovery function) inside of it?
the phone is rooted and s-off.
I am looking forward to each idea.
Thanks
No there isn't unless you are very experienced.
How do you limit the device? with an app? In that case you could always move it to system in which case it will stay even after a hard reset You will of course also have to remove the superuser app and su binary because otherwise he can just move it back or remove it
edit: you could also flash a corrupted recovery image, but i believe it will be possible to reset it from hboot anyway.
Don't let the child on it, simple.
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Don't let the child on it, simple.
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It sounds like the 12 year old uses this phone for everyday use, so this might not be the best solution, if he is supposed to continue being able to text and make calls.
This phone is his.. and because his grades are very bad, I want to lock the games, but leave the telephone & text-message functions working.
I have installed App Protector (App Lock)
https://market.android.com/details?id=ukzzang.android.app.protector&feature=search_result
on his phone
afterwords, someone at school used the HTC security-mode function (Pressed Menu while starting) to delete the app again.
Then I installed a Rom without this function
And now someone used the HBoot function "clear storage" to get rid of my protection. The program is still installed, but the service is not active.
I don't want to take away his phone.
Thanks for your help!
Maybe easier to buy/find a cheap pay as you go handset and swap the sim into it. Can still text and call without all the added temptation. Kids are far too clever these days... they'll always find a way around restrictions
yeah, probably that would be easier, but i am sure there's some way to avoid this.
is there a file of the app protector which I could move to somewhere in order to make it work?
Not unless you make your one app or find one which doesn't have a initial setup.
Cause even when you move the app to system partition the setup is stored on data and therefore erased when doing a factory reset.
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A 12 year old has a Desire.... wow.
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chris3cr said:
Kids are far too clever these days... they'll always find a way around restrictions
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This. My aunt tried restricting web access to my nephew by changing the password of the account they use everyday, but she was careless and forgot to lock administrator account, which he naturally found out about. Instead of locking him out, she was the one who got locked out
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Take the Desire off him until his grades improve and get him one of these.
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As I already stated you can move the apk file from /data/app to /system/app. That way it won't be removed by reset. You setup of the app will though as all its data will be removed.
If you really know what you are doing you could back up the app data from /data/data to the system partition and make a script that restores the folder to /data/data on boot in theory it should be doable and that would circumvent that problem.
is the "clean storage" function a hard reboot? because the app is still installed after such a reset, but as you said my setup is gone. (but he is on cyanogen RcMixHD 3.5 now, maybe that's why)
I think I do not know enough to build a script myself
but can't I just lock hboot somehow with a password or remove the associated functions of "clean storage" in hboot somehow?
No you cant that is what i told you in the first place.. The hboot is a crucial part of the phone system allowing it to boot into system and recovery. It is made only to fulfill those purposes and to allow low level flashing. In order to do what you ask you would have to edit the hboot itself, and no app or code run from the system will ever be able to do that, so unless you know how to edit the hboot to remove the option yourself it's not possible no.
also wth. is cyanogen rcmixhd??? I know cyanogenmod which is an aosp rom and i know rcmixhd, which is a desire hd rom.
But i believe the app should be removed as well, as it is erasing the entire data partition afaik. But it is probably just automatically redownloading it from the market upon first boot. So in order to fix it you must ensure that whatever is needed, is stored on the system partition, because no matter what he will always have access to the data partition.
edit: so if you can't write a script, either drop it, or if it is very important pm me the name of the app and the name and version of your rom, and i might be able to help you figure something out.
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Hello,
It is very important for me to make this android device secure for children.
He is using "RcMixHD 3.6 Rotating", and the app which I have installed is called "App Protector (App Lock)". But if there is another app which would suite you more, its ok for me I just want to make it work.
As far as I am concerned, after he pressed "Clear Storage" in HBoot the app really didn't disappear from the devise! Another app (which is not available on "Android Market") was also available after this reset, but I had to reconfigure it again.
Thank you very much for your help!!!!!
Kamil
Thanks I asked you to write a pm because my answers from now on won't help anyone else.
I might be able to make you a flashable zip file with a script and so on making it restore the settings on boot so they cannot be reset. I'm on my phone now so I can't help you before I get home.
But I will need you to copy the apk-file from /data/app and the folder for this app from /data/data. It must be while your settings is setup as they are supposed to be, because you won't be able to change them from the app afterwards. Also please keep their names exactly as they are and then zip them and upload them for me. Please include info on, whether it is using a2sd, a2sd+, d2ext or d2whatever or maybe even a direct dl link for the rom or if you are unsure please provide me with all the files present in /system/etc/init.d/ on your phone.
also the settings folder might contain your setup password if the app have that possibility. So you will need to trust me(and maybe use a custom one that you use nowhere else), and please use pm...
My folks used a good app for me when I was younger, I think it was called "parenting"
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My folks used a good app for me when I was younger, I think it was called "parenting"
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Lolol same, if I didn't stop messing around my dad would have to resort to something else other than talking lol
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Un root it then change password on computer and modem wpa lol
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I'm a 12year old with a desire lol. Probably the youngest member on xda. What my parents told me was that if I got UFO a good secondary school I could get a good phone, and I did. I always use my phone but font forget to do my homework and stuff I go on my phone lots but my grades haven dropped at all. Why don't you remove his Google account/ change his password. And or flash cm7 without Google apps
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So, this all started, because I was annoyed that Dolphin Browser, wouldn't let me save directly to the external_SD\download folder. I googled, and found out it was a thing since 4.4, that writing to the SD card was kinda wonky. Anyway, I did the "fix" where you add those lines in the platform.xml file, and bluetooth no longer works (something I use every day, so it's important to me). I deleted the file and restored my backup, which at the very most, stopped the bluetooth toast error from constantly appearing. Now, I can no longer take screenshots, or use the camera app. I also noticed that sdcard0 no longer shows as an active directory. Everything appears to have been moved to emulated\0. I have used Root Explorer to try and change folder r/w permissions, to no avail. I'm wondering if having Apps2sd move everything to the sd card, the day prior, aided in this debacle. I have tried using the apps on the play store to fix the sd issue, which just tell me that it's already fixed, even though it isn't.
Is there a known fix to this, other than wiping and starting completely over? When I attempt doing a factory reset, do I need to have the rooted image on the root of the internal memory, and by that I mean, do I need to re-access sdcard0, or will it work on the emulated/0 mount? Will this cause a boot loop?
I am on 11A, and rooted.
I have read all the threads I could on this, but I didn't really see a solution.
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So, this all started, because I was annoyed that Dolphin Browser, wouldn't let me save directly to the external_SD\download folder. I googled, and found out it was a thing since 4.4, that writing to the SD card was kinda wonky. Anyway, I did the "fix" where you add those lines in the platform.xml file, and bluetooth no longer works (something I use every day, so it's important to me). I deleted the file and restored my backup, which at the very most, stopped the bluetooth toast error from constantly appearing. Now, I can no longer take screenshots, or use the camera app. I also noticed that sdcard0 no longer shows as an active directory. Everything appears to have been moved to emulated\0. I have used Root Explorer to try and change folder r/w permissions, to no avail. I'm wondering if having Apps2sd move everything to the sd card, the day prior, aided in this debacle. I have tried using the apps on the play store to fix the sd issue, which just tell me that it's already fixed, even though it isn't.
Is there a known fix to this, other than wiping and starting completely over? When I attempt doing a factory reset, do I need to have the rooted image on the root of the internal memory, and by that I mean, do I need to re-access sdcard0, or will it work on the emulated/0 mount? Will this cause a boot loop?
I am on 11A, and rooted.
I have read all the threads I could on this, but I didn't really see a solution.
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i know the feeling but it is best to KDZ 11A on your phone and then reroot it to be safe. there is a way to get the SD card fix without messing with the XML file, i have 1 app but i cant post it on here but i do some looking around tomorrow and i let you know the best one you can use to write to SD card, i got y G4 unrooted to do a video, so once i get it rooted and do some looking around. i let you know
my youtube channel can show you how to use a KDZ file
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDnfyWhSEEo
dont use the same file that i used, just use your 11A KDZ if you want to stay on 11A. if you want to use 13B please use the LGUP tool dont take the OTA cause you may be pushed to 25A
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So, this all started, because I was annoyed that Dolphin Browser, wouldn't let me save directly to the external_SD\download folder. I googled, and found out it was a thing since 4.4, that writing to the SD card was kinda wonky. Anyway, I did the "fix" where you add those lines in the platform.xml file, and bluetooth no longer works (something I use every day, so it's important to me). I deleted the file and restored my backup, which at the very most, stopped the bluetooth toast error from constantly appearing. Now, I can no longer take screenshots, or use the camera app. I also noticed that sdcard0 no longer shows as an active directory. Everything appears to have been moved to emulated\0. I have used Root Explorer to try and change folder r/w permissions, to no avail. I'm wondering if having Apps2sd move everything to the sd card, the day prior, aided in this debacle. I have tried using the apps on the play store to fix the sd issue, which just tell me that it's already fixed, even though it isn't.
Is there a known fix to this, other than wiping and starting completely over? When I attempt doing a factory reset, do I need to have the rooted image on the root of the internal memory, and by that I mean, do I need to re-access sdcard0, or will it work on the emulated/0 mount? Will this cause a boot loop?
I am on 11A, and rooted.
I have read all the threads I could on this, but I didn't really see a solution.
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ok sorry that this is late but i found an app, enjoy
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I tried that app, and mentioned it in my OP. It doesn't do anything, it tells me my phone has already been fixed (even though it wasn't).
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I tried that app, and mentioned it in my OP. It doesn't do anything, it tells me my phone has already been fixed (even though it wasn't).
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hmm, when i used it and used my other app, it said it fixed the sd card issue, i can keep looking for you, sorry i haven't replied for awhile. been playing with the lg V10 and LG G3
So i wanted to uninstall some bloatware and telemetry apps with mixplorer. But shortly after i delete them, they just reappear in the folders.
Never had this on oxygenos 9. What happened here on oxygenos 10? Is there some service that just restores deleted system apps or something?
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So i wanted to uninstall some bloatware and telemetry apps with mixplorer. But shortly after i delete them, they just reappear in the folders.
Never had this on oxygenos 9. What happened here on oxygenos 10? Is there some service that just restores deleted system apps or something?
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You can't mount /system as rw in Android 10 while booted. Any changes that you do (or try to do) will get reverted after a reboot. It is possible to do that via TWRP though.
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You can't mount /system as rw in Android 10 while booted. Any changes that you do (or try to do) will get reverted after a reboot. It is possible to do that via TWRP though.
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Ahh, didnt know that. In TWRP it indeed worked. Thx mate! :good::highfive:
@shadowstep @MarcTremonti I'm experiencing this SAME issue and it's driving me crazy but I don't quite understand the solution that was given here and apparently worked; would one of you kindly explain this further so I can solve this problem for myself? I'd really appreciate it .
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@shadowstep @MarcTremonti I'm experiencing this SAME issue and it's driving me crazy but I don't quite understand the solution that was given here and apparently worked; would one of you kindly explain this further so I can solve this problem for myself? I'd really appreciate it .
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Whatever changes you're making in the /system partition, make them through TWRP's built-in file manager (instead of attempting to make them via a root file manager while booted into android -- which won't work anymore):
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@shadowstep I'm a bit confused. I'm trying to uninstall apps using Titanium Backup. How do I uninstall an app using TWRP? I can do that via the file manager? If so, how?
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@shadowstep I'm a bit confused. I'm trying to uninstall apps using Titanium Backup. How do I uninstall an app using TWRP? I can do that via the file manager? If so, how?
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You have to delete the folder containing the app via TWRP's file manager, for example, /system/app/<AppName> or /system/priv-app/<AppName>.
@shadowstep I just did this for the YouTube app and the app still exists and functions normally. Any idea what I did wrong? Also, does the TWRP file manager actually lack a search function to make sure all YouTube files are indeed gone?
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@shadowstep I just did this for the YouTube app and the app still exists and functions normally. Any idea what I did wrong? Also, does the TWRP file manager actually lack a search function to make sure all YouTube files are indeed gone?
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You probably removed it from the system partition, but have an update from Play Store installed (which will be a normal app, uninstallable normally like any other installed app after booting). Also, TWRP is only a recovery environment, not a full fledged, feature rich UI. It's meant to be minimalistic and small in size.
@shadowstep I know I deleted the entire folder in data/app but, doing a search in my file explorer (Solid Explorer), I still see some leftover stuff from YouTube in my root folder (specifically, in system/product/app, config/sdcardfs, and a ton of other folders actually). Are you aware of any recovery file browser I can flash and use that has a search function? I ask this because I have a feeling I'm going to run into this crap again with other apps, and would prefer to not have to write down all these folders and manually delete them all individually as that'll take forever.
Also, since you've been enormously helpful, I'd love to get your input on another Android question that's been burning in my mind lately and I cannot for the life of me find any solution online or in the many forums I've been to:
I'm trying to download some files from one of my apps to my android phone hooked up to an external hard drive. However, the app will not let me download to the hard drive, and instead auto installs to the Downloads folder in my internal storage. When an app doesn't let you choose a download location, is there anyway around this where I can force the app to download files where I want it to?
I'm sorry to burden you with all my junk but you've truly been the only helpful person I've been able to find to answer these questions I've been having.
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@shadowstep I know I deleted the entire folder in data/app but, doing a search in my file explorer (Solid Explorer), I still see some leftover stuff from YouTube in my root folder (specifically, in system/product/app, config/sdcardfs, and a ton of other folders actually). Are you aware of any recovery file browser I can flash and use that has a search function? I ask this because I have a feeling I'm going to run into this crap again with other apps, and would prefer to not have to write down all these folders and manually delete them all individually as that'll take forever.
Also, since you've been enormously helpful, I'd love to get your input on another Android question that's been burning in my mind lately and I cannot for the life of me find any solution online or in the many forums I've been to:
I'm trying to download some files from one of my apps to my android phone hooked up to an external hard drive. However, the app will not let me download to the hard drive, and instead auto installs to the Downloads folder in my internal storage. When an app doesn't let you choose a download location, is there anyway around this where I can force the app to download files where I want it to?
I'm sorry to burden you with all my junk but you've truly been the only helpful person I've been able to find to answer these questions I've been having.
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If you're on OOS 10, the system instance of YouTube is actually in the product folder (/system/product/app/YouTube). That's the folder you have to delete via TWRP's file manager to remove YouTube from the system partition.
If you still see YouTube installed after removing that, then it's most likely a user instance of the app (system instance = pre-installed by the manufacturer; can only be removed via root, user instance = normal installation by the user/Play Store; can be removed via normal uninstall while booted).
You don't have to remove any other file(s). The APK is the main thing.
Regarding your second question, I'm afraid that's something I don't know. I've never had to do that so never dug into it. Google is your best friend at this moment. Good luck!
@shadowstep I've now deleted both folders in TWRP and the app is still here . I also can't delete it normally like a non-system app. I'm about to lose my mind .
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@shadowstep I've now deleted both folders in TWRP and the app is still here . I also can't delete it normally like a non-system app. I'm about to lose my mind .
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Hmm. In that case, try the Magisk method using Terminal Debloater: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-terminal-debloater-debloat-t3584163
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Hmm. In that case, try the Magisk method using Terminal Debloater: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-terminal-debloater-debloat-t3584163
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THANK YOU SO MUCH! That module did the trick! For some reason, there are still some apps that are being pesky and not getting detected/deleted, but that module helped get rid of almost all of these annoying apps. Thanks again!
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THANK YOU SO MUCH! That module did the trick! For some reason, there are still some apps that are being pesky and not getting detected/deleted, but that module helped get rid of almost all of these annoying apps. Thanks again!
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Glad I could help.