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[Q] HTC Desire won't boot or charge

Hi! My first post here and, sadly, not a pleasant one for me.
Today I, while charging my rooted Desire (Ginger Villain 2.8, if that matters), launched an app and it crashed (black screen but with status bar still showing). Since none of the buttons were responding, I took out the battery and then put it back in and tried to boot it. I went as far as the GingerVillain logo screen but then stopped the process. Since I was impatient (and dumb...), I pulled the battery out again. On the next boot process it halted at the white HTC screen. But now on the 3rd try it refuses to boot at all. No response what so ever when I press the Power button. Charge LED doesn't light up if I connect the USB cable.
What could I have messed up? Any solutions? I sure hope I haven't bricked it or something... Any help is appreciated!

Can you access hboot or fastboot? If yes, use the last one flash ruu. If not, use the search. There is a thread with nearly the same problem like yours and when I remember correctly, it got solved.

Power + Volume down doesn't work.
The other thread that seemed to be about this problem also involved some physical damage. My phone hasn't been dropped or soaked though.
I will try to get a hold of a charged battery and see what happens. Don't know why would it crash and burn like this considering that I wasn't installing anything. :/

Also some people suggested a while ago, to take out the battery and leave the phone alone for a few minutes, then try to boot again.

davebugyi said:
Also some people suggested a while ago, to take out the battery and leave the phone alone for a few minutes, then try to boot again.
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Had it sitting for approx. 4h with the battery removed. Put it back in and still no response what so ever. Power button doesn't do anything nor does plugging in a charger. Wasn't able to put in a charged battery because no one I know has this phone.
Not happy about this. And I'm pretty sure the tech support will just end up blaming the root...

Well, try to hold down the power button for at least 30 seconds while the battery is off. It works with notebooks. Other than that, no idea.

i guess mobo is dead, with roor you loose your warranty as well, so if mobo is realy dead you need to buy new phone, or try look on Ebay, but first sent it to htc just for diagnostic, we need to know what realy happend to your phone and after that look for advice

AssassinSvK said:
i guess mobo is dead, with roor you loose your warranty as well, so if mobo is realy dead you need to buy new phone, or try look on Ebay, but first sent it to htc just for diagnostic, we need to know what realy happend to your phone and after that look for advice
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eehh..no.... if the motherboard is dead - so is the root, they won't know, so you still have your warranty.
My phone also randomly died on me once, it was rooted and S-OFF'd, sent it to htc and they repaired it for me. Don't worry about it just send it off. If it's dead it's dead.

in that case you are right, if mobo is realy dead so the root is dead too, yeah
sent it to htc and you will see

Heh encouraging replies.
Anyway, I don't have an official subsidiary of HTC in my country so I'll just bring it to the shop I bought it from. Not sure if they do diagnostics and repairs themselves or just forward it to HTC.
Since I've never gave a phone for repairs, what are your suggestions regarding the SD card? I assume it's fine if I just remove it and bring in just the phone itself. Most of my apps are installed on the card, but I guess I can kiss them goodbye at this point, right?

.gkl said:
Heh encouraging replies.
Anyway, I don't have an official subsidiary of HTC in my country so I'll just bring it to the shop I bought it from. Not sure if they do diagnostics and repairs themselves or just forward it to HTC.
Since I've never gave a phone for repairs, what are your suggestions regarding the SD card? I assume it's fine if I just remove it and bring in just the phone itself. Most of my apps are installed on the card, but I guess I can kiss them goodbye at this point, right?
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no, all HTC as that you give them is your phone and your battery. No SIM card, no SD, no charger/ cables. Just the phone itself.

they dont need your sdcard, you should give them just phone, battery and thats all, everything else leave home, i just sent my phone with battery to repair, simple

Bumping this thread in case somebody finds it and wants to know the outcome. I gave the phone for repairs and the conclusion was a broken motherboard which they simply replaced.
I have to admit, I was ready to buy a new phone and now that I have my old one back, it's a kinda weird feeling. I definitely do want to upgrade to Galaxy S II but it's still bloody expensive. I guess I'll just wait till the end of my warranty (April next year) for even better phones to hit the market and upgrade then...

[Q] DHD brick and guarantee help

Hi Everyone !
I have a Desire HD and it bricked last sunday evening. It's only half year old, so I took it back to T-Mobile (I bought it from them). But it's rooted and Radio S-OFF-ed when died. Can the service establish that I rooted and S-OFF-ed my phone, or no ?
Thanks in advance !

If it's totally dead (no bootloader access or charge light) then they won't be able to tell. They'll fix it without any knowledge of software changes.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!

Yep if its completely dead they wont bother repairing it, they'll just replace the motherboard. That way they have no knowledge of what you did to it.

Thanks for the answers,I'm happy right now,because you have the point:absolutely no sign of life. No charging light,no bootloader and no any happening when I press the power button (same with another battery too).

how did you manage to do that? It will be good for others to know so that they dont make such a mistake .

meeru said:
how did you manage to do that? It will be good for others to know so that they dont make such a mistake .
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I don't know. Here's what happened:
1.: I use Opera Mobile for web browsing and the past few days it's become very slow. Sometimes the only way to close it is press the Home button and close it in task manager. I thought it's a software problem, so I made a hard reset, but it's not resolved my problem. Mean while I saw the news that HTC will not refresh the Desire HD to ICS in the first line, so I downgraded it and flash the latest NDT MIUI ROM.
2.: Next day I connected my phone to my PC and realised there is no communication between, only charging. I tried it in other computers and other USB cables, same result, so I wanted to back to stock. My only problem was the Radio system. I was still S-OFF-ed. I searched so many forums and I tried to get back Radio S-ON in Terminal Emulator, but it didn't work.
3.: Tried some instructions without any result and finally after a reboot procedure the phone didn't wake up anymore. No reaction for the charger, no reaction for any button pushed. Nothing. Took it back to T-Mobile and they check the battery because they thought maybe that caused this and they said it discharged over.
And now I'm waiting for an SMS or call how is my phone now

goodluck with that

Got it back from repair service. They changed its motherboard,so almost I have a brand new phone now I'm so lucky I guess ... huhh ... sweating a lot,but now I'm happy

SsZzliMm said:
Got it back from repair service. They changed its motherboard,so almost I have a brand new phone now I'm so lucky I guess ... huhh ... sweating a lot,but now I'm happy
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Good job mate
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium

SsZzliMm said:
Thanks for the answers,I'm happy right now,because you have the point:absolutely no sign of life. No charging light,no bootloader and no any happening when I press the power button (same with another battery too).
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If you plug it into your computer in that state, does it ask for qload usb drivers? if so, Its a true brick, and there's no way they'll know what you had going on. I had mine replaced in June this year after mine was bricked.

[Q] Sudden Hardbrick

My phone hardbricked for no apparent reason, and I'm not sure what to do. Battery was at about 50% yesterday, it turned off and wouldn't turn back on. I did a soft reset, and it turned on. I watched it go as far as the logo and then had to walk away. When I came back, the phone was black again. And it hasn't turned on since. No logo, nothing. I've tried a soft reset, plus multiple other reset combinations. I plugged my phone to the computer, I get the normal connecting 'ding', but then it says that driver's device cannot be found.
I'm running stock firmware, no mods. No history of battery issues (except the normal slow decline). I've had the phone for a year and three weeks, so I'm out of warranty too. I called T-mobile and they said it sounds like a hardbrick and are willing to switch it out for $20 since I'm out of warranty. I can't do that since I'm out of the country for the next 1.5 months, so I was wondering if anyone out there had any suggestions on what to do or why this even happened?
Thanks!

goeundiane said:
My phone hardbricked for no apparent reason, and I'm not sure what to do. Battery was at about 50% yesterday, it turned off and wouldn't turn back on. I did a soft reset, and it turned on. I watched it go as far as the logo and then had to walk away. When I came back, the phone was black again. And it hasn't turned on since. No logo, nothing. I've tried a soft reset, plus multiple other reset combinations. I plugged my phone to the computer, I get the normal connecting 'ding', but then it says that driver's device cannot be found.
I'm running stock firmware, no mods. No history of battery issues (except the normal slow decline). I've had the phone for a year and three weeks, so I'm out of warranty too. I called T-mobile and they said it sounds like a hardbrick and are willing to switch it out for $20 since I'm out of warranty. I can't do that since I'm out of the country for the next 1.5 months, so I was wondering if anyone out there had any suggestions on what to do or why this even happened?
Thanks!
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does it respond to plugging in to charge? im not 100% but if its responding at all when it gets plugged in its not hardbricked only softbricked so go from there. when i hardbricked my first s2 due to a corrupt kernel file i flashed it would not react to anything at all. complete dead weight

U stated that when u plugged it into ur computer u got a ding then says driver device not found. Sounds to me that ur not in a hard birck when I bricked mine I didn't even get that. Check out the link it well help.
http://galaxys2root.com/t-mobile-ga...ck-t-mobile-galaxy-s2-sgh-t989-android-2-3-6/
on my t989 enjoying sith3, thank u to all

Thanks for everyone's help. I ended up sending in my phone to a Samsung service center (while I was in Korea). They confirmed that it is a hardbrick. They opened it up and said it looked like there was a short and it fried the motherboard. They couldn't tell me what caused the short--they said maybe some water got into the phone through the charging port, but I know that isn't true... I had it plugged into an old power strip and maybe that's why? :crying:
Either way, I was told my only option was to get the motherboard replaced which would be $200. I told them no thanks and that I'd just get a replacement phone from T-mobile for $20.

sounds like another " I swear i didn't do anything.. it just happened" story.. classic..
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PJcastaldo said:
sounds like another " I swear i didn't do anything.. it just happened" story.. classic..
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I know my story sounds unlikely, but it's the truth. Isn't this forum around to help fellow users? I have no reason to lie here. I actually take very good care of my phone and (after almost losing a laptop to a water spill) am extremely cautious about liquids around my electronic devices. You don't have to believe me since I'll get my phone replaced regardless. I just thought I would share the information in case someone else ends up facing the same problem.
Even now, the only cause I can come up with still is the old power strip frying the motherboard. *shrug* I would love to hear any other explanations.

Unresponsive phone - Dead?

Bit of a strange one.....
Phone was fine last night, replied to a text, checked my phone 10 minutes later and its not working, doesn't seem to be responding to the power button so was a little confused, no captive feedback, no lights or sounds. Battery was showing 62% prior.
It hasn't worked since.
Tried:
- Holding down the power to restart the phone.
- Holding down power and vol - to get into the bootloader
- Charged it for 10 hours (doesn't even indicate the LED)
- Tried connecting to a PC (and PC doesn't recognise it at all - again no LED)
The phone is an international one x. It is rooted and has been fine since August on root. Wasn't being used excessively or any stress that you would expect to cause a failure. Wasn't dropped or anything.
I'm stumped, had a search on here and can't find anything. So before i put an insurance claim in, does anyone have any suggestions? Battery failure? Motherboard failure?
Cheers

Try connecting your phone to your pc, see what Windows recognises it as
Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.

XxVcVxX said:
Try connecting your phone to your pc, see what Windows recognises it as
Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.
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It doesn't recognise it as anything and the led is not appearing on the phone.
Thanks

Phone is stuck in apx mode or something, you'll have to send it back for repair. I just did it 2 days ago, It's really worring because I'm seeing a lot of these cases but nobody has reported back to say what htc has done about it. I hope I don't get charged for it.

Maximus78 said:
Phone is stuck in apx mode or something, you'll have to send it back for repair. I just did it 4 days ago, It's really worring because I'm seeing a lot of these cases but nobody has reported back to say what htc has done about it. I hope I don't get charged for it.
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Is that likely to be software related? As Im giving a HTC rep a hard time on the Chat and he has stipulated the following (which i am tasking him about as i believe he is in accurate)
'Should our engineers find any physical damage, wear and tear, illegal software, illegal repair attempts or your warranty has expired, the repair will be chargeable and we will send you a quote via email.'
Well that covers every single warranty claim does it not?

Used to have this problem with my sensation xe,connect to pc and 're boot your bootloader,can't remember the exact commands.
Worth a try ..
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Phone is dead send it to HTC ,they will repair it under warranty,HTC won't know anything because phone is DEAD

atrako1973 said:
Phone is dead send it to HTC ,they will repair it under warranty,HTC won't know anything because phone is DEAD
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How do i know its 100% dead, can they do anything i can't? Also they can tell from my IMEI its rooted and will blame that as a way to avoid a warranty claim.

markb63 said:
Used to have this problem with my sensation xe,connect to pc and 're boot your bootloader,can't remember the exact commands.
Worth a try ..
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I have tried various ABD reboot commands (to my brief knowledge) and its non existent as far as a PC is concerned

vis-tec said:
I have tried various ABD reboot commands (to my brief knowledge) and its non existent as far as a PC is concerned
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Mine wasn't non existent to my pc. When I connected it via usb my pc made a sound but not like the normal one and then windows said it couldn't install the drivers. So each time I connected it a strange exclamation mark was showing where normally it would show usb connected.
There is no wear and tear and not opened it but if they mean illegal software as in custom rom then I'm F***ed. So I'm not sure how they'll respond. Got a msg from three uk today saying they've received my device and are assessing it now. So that was two days of sending it in, not bad.
Think I might open a thread when I get it back letting everyone know the final outcome since I haven't seen anyone reporting on what similar experience they've had.

vis-tec said:
How do i know its 100% dead, can they do anything i can't? Also they can tell from my IMEI its rooted and will blame that as a way to avoid a warranty claim.
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Again HTC has no chance in hell to know whatever happened to your phone ,they will change the motherboard ,end of story,please send it to HTC ,call them ,tell them phone is not respoding to anything,don't mention root or anything like that,they will arange pick-up ,HTC one x still has 16 months warranty, send it don't be a chicken

even mines stuck in apx mode..i also have given the phone to service centre...curiously all the post about apx mode have occured after they upgraded to jb.

kartiyk said:
even mines stuck in apx mode..i also have given the phone to service centre...curiously all the post about apx mode have occured after they upgraded to jb.
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I never upgraded to JB so that debunks that myth, H3G_001 cid. I started experiencing massive lock-ups and force closures before it stopped responding (apx-mode). I have sent it in for repair now.

Maximus78 said:
I never upgraded to JB so that debunks that myth, H3G_001 cid. I started experiencing massive lock-ups and force closures before it stopped responding (apx-mode). I have sent it in for repair now.
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right then~ even i faced lot off errors just before it went dead....unfortunately i thought it to be a rom issue,but learnt my fate a few hours later !

Don't believe mine was an APX issue. Didnt get the 'APX Scfreen' that many describe or any kind of recognition from a PC either on the PC or the phone.
Phone was collected 2 hours ago. Will advise when i hear from them. If not i will put an insurance claim in through my phone insurance.

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Don't believe mine was an APX issue. Didnt get the 'APX Scfreen' that many describe or any kind of recognition from a PC either on the PC or the phone.
Phone was collected 2 hours ago. Will advise when i hear from them. If not i will put an insurance claim in through my phone insurance.
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apx screen doesnt show up in our phones. when you connect the device through usb it will show up as drivers not avaialable or so.and apx will be shown in device manager window

I have same problem with my One X. Phone is now in service and I wait to see what will be with my phone. I also have many problems with some apps, IGO stop to work, Google maps also and when I try to open quadrant standard my phone turn off display and died :crying: .
I am from Europa (Serbia) I bought brand new phone from a guy who brought it from Singapore (don´t have warranty). Phone is CID - 044 and Asia_WWE. My friend have phone service and yesterday he try everything and nothing, today will try with something what he called "BOX"

This is getting scary because the exact same thing is happening to many of us now and around the same time. I accepted a quote from three uk yesterday of £76 to repair it. The three service centre chap said due to illegal software they were not able to flash it. I am very saddened that I won't be able to flash from now on.

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This is getting scary because the exact same thing is happening to many of us now and around the same time. I accepted a quote from three uk yesterday of £76 to repair it. The three service centre chap said due to illegal software they were not able to flash it. I am very saddened that I won't be able to flash from now on.
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If Three UK supplied your phone, you shouldn't have to pay. Consumer protection laws.

BenPope said:
If Three UK supplied your phone, you shouldn't have to pay. Consumer protection laws.
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But they knew I'd put illegal software on it. I'm sure they just connected it to their pc got a nod from htc and that sorted that problem out. 76 quid please for looking at it.

GT-N7100 Won't turn on or charge

Hey guys,
From what I've read, this seems to happen to a lot of different phones, but not out of the blue and I didn't find anything on the Note 2, so I'm wondering if it's the same issue and if my only hope is to get a replacement. It seems to be dead at the moment.
Before going to bed, I charged my phone to about 90% and then unplugged it and left it on my desk.
This morning when I woke up, it was off, which was kind of odd, since there's no way it would fully discharge over night. I tried turning it on, plugging it to charge, swapping out the battery for another original one I purchased directly from Samsung, trying other chargers, even the PC and different USB cables, all to no avail.
The only thing I noticed was that the proximity sensor seems to flash every 5-10 seconds, and I'm not sure what that would mean, other than the fact that it's getting some power somehow so that it can light up.
For the time being, I removed the battery and left it like that while I'm at work.
The phone is running the stock ROM for the GT-N7100, nothing was ever modified, it's not rooted or anything.
I know there was a firmware update pop-up on it at some point, but I hadn't installed it.
Any clues guys? I know there's some really knowledgeable people here, so I'm hoping someone might have an idea!
Thanks for the help and sorry for the text!

That sounds like the dreaded sudden death syndrome, how long have you had your device? You need to take it to a service shop. Was it rooted?
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Sorry to hear it . Last week I left mine on my bedside table around same charge 90% full and it was completely discharged and just wouldnt turn on but after leaving it on charge for about 30 min when I checked it started working .
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Heard of that for the S III but not the Note II!
Never rooted, nope :/
I've had it since November, got it from Newegg while I was in the US.
I should contact Samsung for a service shop location then? I've never done anything like that before.
Thanks!

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Sorry to hear it . Last week I left mine on my bedside table around same charge 90% full and it was completely discharged and just wouldnt turn on but after leaving it on charge for about 30 min when I checked it started working .
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When you plugged it in to charge, did the LED light up at all? Mine acts as if it wasn't plugged in.

No it didnt but at the time I didnt think of it and walked away leaving it on charge. And also I didnt even know anything sds . Did you try leaving your battery out overnight or use another battery? You called call in to any mobile phone shop and maybe ask them to see if uou can at least tey theirs
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All the sign and symptoms indicating its sudden death.
- Have you updated to 4.1.2 which is believed to be patch for SDS?
-Can you reboot to recovery/download mode?

Well, I did try just plugging it in for a few hours, when I went back to it the battery was cold and nothing happened.
I do have 2 original batteries, so I've been trying everything with both of them.
It just seems like the SDS because of the proximity sensor lighting up.
Right now it's unplugged and without a battery, just in case the capacitors need to discharge or something.
I guess I'll try again tonight!
It's really complicated with the GT-N7100 being an international phone, I can't register it on Samsung for warranty, so I've been trying to talk to Newegg and haven't been successful with them so far.
Thanks for the replies guys.

dr.ketan said:
All the sign and symptoms indicating its sudden death.
- Have you updated to 4.1.2 which is believed to be patch for SDS?
-Can you reboot to recovery/download mode?
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The crazy part is that I think the phone was asking me to update firmware, but I didn't have time to update it before it died like this... what luck, right?
For the download mode, it never reacts while plugged in other than the sensor, so even if I hold the key combinations, it doesn't seem to react. I'll try again more thoroughly tonight.

You didn't update that's prove you were not on latest rom which have fixed sds, really bad luck otherwise it could have took 10min on good network.
Anyway Goodluck for replacement.
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Endracion said:
Hey guys,
From what I've read, this seems to happen to a lot of different phones, but not out of the blue and I didn't find anything on the Note 2, so I'm wondering if it's the same issue and if my only hope is to get a replacement. It seems to be dead at the moment.
Before going to bed, I charged my phone to about 90% and then unplugged it and left it on my desk.
This morning when I woke up, it was off, which was kind of odd, since there's no way it would fully discharge over night. I tried turning it on, plugging it to charge, swapping out the battery for another original one I purchased directly from Samsung, trying other chargers, even the PC and different USB cables, all to no avail.
The only thing I noticed was that the proximity sensor seems to flash every 5-10 seconds, and I'm not sure what that would mean, other than the fact that it's getting some power somehow so that it can light up.
For the time being, I removed the battery and left it like that while I'm at work.
The phone is running the stock ROM for the GT-N7100, nothing was ever modified, it's not rooted or anything.
I know there was a firmware update pop-up on it at some point, but I hadn't installed it.
Any clues guys? I know there's some really knowledgeable people here, so I'm hoping someone might have an idea!
Thanks for the help and sorry for the text!
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Have you tried hard reset, or soft reset. and if you cant get into recovery then sorry buddy :/ it seems like the SDS bug.
The proximity sensor light indicated the system is booting up but if no system boots up then you should send it back to samsung for repair.
Mine should be arriving tomorrow with an engineer's report. I will fill you guys in on what the service centre says.

soljakid said:
Have you tried hard reset, or soft reset. and if you cant get into recovery then sorry buddy :/ it seems like the SDS bug.
The proximity sensor light indicated the system is booting up but if no system boots up then you should send it back to samsung for repair.
Mine should be arriving tomorrow with an engineer's report. I will fill you guys in on what the service centre says.
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It seems to indeed be the SDS, and I can't reset it or anything since it won't boot up, nor can it go into download mode.
Biggest problem is that seeing as it's a GT-N7100, after calling Samsung; they're telling me it's an international phone and that it can't be serviced in the US or Canada, so I'm basically stuck with a $700 paper weight... this majorly blows. I wish there was someone higher up at Samsung I could speak to, since this is just an extremely bad experience with the product...

Endracion said:
It seems to indeed be the SDS, and I can't reset it or anything since it won't boot up, nor can it go into download mode.
Biggest problem is that seeing as it's a GT-N7100, after calling Samsung; they're telling me it's an international phone and that it can't be serviced in the US or Canada, so I'm basically stuck with a $700 paper weight... this majorly blows. I wish there was someone higher up at Samsung I could speak to, since this is just an extremely bad experience with the product...
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Dude that sucks hard! I can try and get management number of the people in the uk of you like?

soljakid said:
Dude that sucks hard! I can try and get management number of the people in the uk of you like?
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I would definitely appreciate any help! You think this would help? I know phones don't exactly carry international warranty, but if I could send it there for replacement or something; that's already a step forward.
I do believe that since Samsung knows of this problem, they should offer outright replacements for anyone suffering of this issue though - because it's literally putting a faulty product on the market; there should be something we can do about this.
Appreciate it, once again!

soljakid said:
Dude that sucks hard! I can try and get management number of the people in the uk of you like?
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Would you be able to tell us about your engineer's report?