[Q] There will be Ubuntu for the new N7? - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

Hi,
I saw this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
And i think that will be very good to also have Ubuntu on the new N7.
I don't know if it's compatible with the new one and i don't want to try cuz it may brick my device (?)
So what do you think? Would you like to have it?

Idrito said:
Hi,
I saw this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
And i think that will be very good to also have Ubuntu on the new N7.
I don't know if it's compatible with the new one and i don't want to try cuz it may brick my device (?)
So what do you think? Would you like to have it?
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Don't use this as it is for the original N7. You also wouldn't be able to anyway, as Canonical stopped building preinstalled images a long while ago. All effort were merged into Ubuntu Touch.

It's pointless because Ubuntu Touch is purely UI and none of the features are functional as far as I know.
It would be really awesome to be able to run a full-featured Ubuntu on the Nexus 7.

cyberprodigy said:
It's pointless because Ubuntu Touch is purely UI and none of the features are functional as far as I know.
It would be really awesome to be able to run a full-featured Ubuntu on the Nexus 7.
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Nobody working on it at the minute then or are we waiting for the first release to be merged? Hardly used my Nexus 7 since getting my HTC One
think Ubuntu would be the best idea for mine!

Ubuntu Touch is completely useless, which means that someone is almost certainly working on building it for Flo. I'm sure it'll be out soon enough.
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juicyjones said:
Ubuntu Touch is completely useless, which means that someone is almost certainly working on building it for Flo. I'm sure it'll be out soon enough.
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I'm pretty sure that I saw a post from a developer (maybe on launchpad in reply to a bug report or something, can't find it now) that said that we can rest assured that someone will build it. I couldn't find a timeline though.

The op link is referring to the Ubuntu core for N7 2012, and not Ubuntu touch. They are separate systems. It is the desktop os, for Nexus 7. As someone else already mentioned, this version (13.04 from April 24th) was the last made before it was discontinued. I still run it on my N7 2012 model, and love it. Of course, otg, kb and mouse required.
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Windows Phone 7

I don't know if this is the right place to put this so mods move it if necessary please.
Something got me thinking today "What if I could dual boot my Evo with Windows Phone 7 and Android?". I think that would make it the ultimate phone. The HD2 can run windows and android so why not the Evo also.
this is already released. there is a android 3.0/windows 7 combo rom running at 2ghz with pretty much everything working
I'm sure you can, I doubt developers who use their time on making it though
Edit: (post above) I stand corrected
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milkit said:
this is already released. There is a android 3.0/windows 7 combo rom running at 2ghz with pretty much everything working
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hahahahaha
Running haret.exe within windows to boot linux to launch android can be done...
As far as i know there is no way to do the similar on andoid to launch windows mobile.
that is why most windows mobile phones can get a port to android and not android to windows mobile.
milkit said:
this is already released. there is a android 3.0/windows 7 combo rom running at 2ghz with pretty much everything working
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Haha got me too
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gator2k83 said:
Running haret.exe within windows to boot linux to launch android can be done...
As far as i know there is no way to do the similar on andoid to launch windows mobile.
that is why most windows mobile phones can get a port to android and not android to windows mobile.
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That's just because nobody has any interest in putting WinMo 6.5 on their Android phone... WP7 on the other hand may be worth the work.
EtherealRemnant said:
That's just because nobody has any interest in putting WinMo 6.5 on their Android phone... WP7 on the other hand may be worth the work.
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may be worth the work but not the trouble... not open source...
looneylu said:
may be worth the work but not the trouble... not open source...
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Considering that some WP7 devices will most likely use Snapdragon it really shouldn't be terribly difficult to do - but yes, it would be illegal.
Actually, it would not be illegal, as of yesterday.
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Actually, it would not be illegal, as of yesterday.
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no, it would still be illegal because you did not obtain the microsoft portion of the software legally. To be protected under the DMCA changes made yesterday you would have to legally own the software, then it would be ok

Ubuntu

Has anybody tried this?
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
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No. And no one will be, since it has to be implemented by the manufacturer. Ubuntu stated, that they may release source to fiddle with, but they havent until now.
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Shame, would be awesome.
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Main Problem is, that it would need implementation in the kernel since it runs besides Android all the time and uses the same kernel. I also would like to See a port of this, but since no units with this feature were sold till now , there is no easy way to get hold of the code (sadly)...
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Have you guys seen this already???
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
http://youtu.be/cpWHJDLsqTU
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wiltgen said:
Have you guys seen this already???
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yep !
we will see how useful the ubuntu UI will be on phones. hopefully it gets better than the desktop unity crap
also time will tell on which devices ubuntu for phones actually can run.. the guy in the video said it could run on any android device.. i doubt that
but i'm still excited for this.. having it dual boot would be awesome i guess
So it runs alongside Android and when you connect the phone to the PC it turns into an Ubuntu system, sounds neat!
The-Last-Hylian said:
So it runs alongside Android and when you connect the phone to the PC it turns into an Ubuntu system, sounds neat!
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on the ubuntu homepage i the phone section there is a page where is a part where you can see what are the things which have to have the phone ...the "min" and "max" and our phone will run it good because of enough memory and good cpu ...just wait...at first they will make it avaiable on the nexus 4 and after a while for other
They will post development images for the galaxy nexus (not N4) which can be ported to other phones The whole thing already runs on an android kernel which should speed up the porting a little. I'm going to follow this closely though, especcially the thin client function looks neat. We have some BYOD rules and what we basically do is just RDP in from out own docked laptop instead of an availible thin client. With this I could just dock my phone and start working.
svenvv said:
They will post development images for the galaxy nexus (not N4) which can be ported to other phones The whole thing already runs on an android kernel which should speed up the porting a little. I'm going to follow this closely though, especcially the thin client function looks neat. We have some BYOD rules and what we basically do is just RDP in from out own docked laptop instead of an availible thin client. With this I could just dock my phone and start working.
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I read this yesterday - http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/canonical-unveils-ubuntu-phone-os-that-doubles-as-a-full-pc/
I know it's off topic but there is Desktop installer for Nexus 7 since the chipset are the same maybe we can run it on HOX as well
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/
Its too far to touch at this moment.
ShyamSasi said:
I know it's off topic but there is Desktop installer for Nexus 7 since the chipset are the same maybe we can run it on HOX as well
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/
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if you read through the steps, it asks you to flash a boot.img, which certainly wont work for us.
Sorry to interrupt you but...
On Ubuntu... Runs... The... SOURCE ENGINE EVEN FASTER THAN UNTER WINDOWS AND THE RELEASES ARE NEARLY THERE.
Mr. Freeman on my phone.
Oh my god.
And Valve tested btw. DotA for tablets. Maybe its that behind the story. Brb, fappin'.
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thunder07 said:
if you read through the steps, it asks you to flash a boot.img, which certainly wont work for us.
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Can some Kernel dev make something for us? It's too bad i was hoping we can run it
wooow I'll try
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Can some Kernel dev make something for us? It's too bad i was hoping we can run it
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It's a really nice idea but you'll lose the functionality of a phone and it was pretty damn hard to use on a 7 inch screen running in gnome.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Ubuntu for nexus 7 require repartitioning? If that's the case then there's no way it would work for most of us.
sprogurt said:
It's a really nice idea but you'll lose the functionality of a phone and it was pretty damn hard to use on a 7 inch screen running in gnome.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Ubuntu for nexus 7 require repartitioning? If that's the case then there's no way it would work for most of us.
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You're wrong and wrong....
This is made to run on a linux/android kernel..... Which should translate into an easy move..... Plus its made for mobile...
It is a mobile OS so why would we lose mobile features.
Plus as this is for mobile... It won't be hard to navigate as everything is scaled and repositioned.
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thunder07 said:
You're wrong and wrong....
This is made to run on a linux/android kernel..... Which should translate into an easy move..... Plus its made for mobile...
It is a mobile OS so why would we lose mobile features.
Plus as this is for mobile... It won't be hard to navigate as everything is scaled and repositioned.
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I think it meant about the link I posted before i.e. Ubuntu OS (Not the phone one)

No Bluetooth Low Energy for the Galaxy Nexus

Those of you have been waiting for the Galaxy Nexus to gain support for Bluetooth Low Energy - to enable syncing with devices like the Fitbit Flex or Polar heart monitor - can stop. While BLE support will arrive in the next drop of Android, it will - according to one of the folks on the Android team - apparently not be making its way to the Nexus. See the comment here:
https://plus.google.com/116110604589325140832/posts/VsF1BcaFY1g
Looks like the best bet, then, is either custom ROMs or upgrading to a Nexus 4 or later.
Great... Another nail in the coffin against the galaxy nexus, time to start looking for a suitable replacement.
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This question is fairly general as I'm considering the remaining life of my device. Does anyone have an idea, once API level 18 is released, is it possible or probable that we will get BLE ported over in a ROM? Should I hold out hope for my Nexus or move on? BLE is something I've been looking forward to for a while.
Lol, that's just ****ing weak.
fireknuckles said:
This question is fairly general as I'm considering the remaining life of my device. Does anyone have an idea, once API level 18 is released, is it possible or probable that we will get BLE ported over in a ROM? Should I hold out hope for my Nexus or move on? BLE is something I've been looking forward to for a while.
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I don't think it's that simple, it will require some work to port it over, I remember that a google employee mentioned in the keynote that BLE requires a new stack. Correct me if i'm wrong, i'm kinda sleepy when i watched the keynote..
Yeah, which will come with next Android release. They just don't want to bother with the drivers for GN, which is bull****.
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And we're still missing camera and GPS binaries.
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bk201doesntexist said:
And we're still missing camera and GPS binaries.
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Missing where?
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Nexus Prime's hardware has become old now...dual core TI A9 and the BT3 ,with the TI gone there would be no proper binaries
N4 or Next nexus would be better upgrade option :good: !
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Missing where?
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Official AOSP license
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers
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No one cares, since they get them from the stock build.
So, now that Android 4.3 is out, what are the chances of getting BLE ported from another device with the same BT chip?
CommanderROR said:
So, now that Android 4.3 is out, what are the chances of getting BLE ported from another device with the same BT chip?
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I hope so. It's disappointing that Google is already starting to abandon what was their flagship phone just a year ago.
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No one cares, since they get them from the stock build.
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If someone were to track down the people who are providing ROMs with the all binaries included, even the ones that are not licensed to us by Google and manufacturers, there would be no 100% complete ROMs.
CommanderROR said:
So, now that Android 4.3 is out, what are the chances of getting BLE ported from another device with the same BT chip?
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So no 100% confirmation yet of people who have gotten the update today?
Gbcue said:
So no 100% confirmation yet of people who have gotten the update today?
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I already got 4.3 on my GNex, I can confirm that nothing changed in the Bluetooth settings screen. But I don't know if you can see BLE support in the interface somewhere or is it only under the hood?
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-nexus-passes-bluetooth-android-4-3-224336/
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http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-nexus-passes-bluetooth-android-4-3-224336/
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I'm unsure if you're saying it will get it or won't.
They just recertified BT 3.0 for it. If you go to https://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/listings.cfm and top in GT-I9250 in the search box you'll notice that it says it as for 3.0 not 4.0.
If you put in the model LG-E960 (nexus 4) and search you'll notice that it was for 4.0.
so will gnex support BLE ?
It doesn't have it, they would certify for 4.0 if it would. Only way (unofficial at least) would be to work with with similar binaries from a 4.0 certified device, if it's possible.
It sucks ass, but I guess it was more of a business decision then a engineering one. Personally I don't see much point in having a Nexus anyway, so this decision kinda sealed that I'll look around for the next phone.

[Q] Ubuntu Phone OS on Optimus G (LS970)?

I had a thought the other night, as I was reading up on some tech information. The site had a post discussing the official release of Ubuntu for Phones, so far only available for the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4.
Well, since it's possible to turn the LG Optimus G into a Nexus 4, shouldn't the Nexus 4 Ubuntu ROM work on the LG Optimus G?
I know that it's all easier said than done, but I love the Ubuntu experience and as far as I know there are people that have successfully ran the beta version of Ubuntu Touch on the LG Optimus G, like here for example, but have had problems since the Nexus 4 is technically GSM only, where as the Sprint version of the LG Optimus G is CMDA.
I'm honestly tired of Jellybean, and I am just looking for a whole new mobile experience without really having to blow any more money on a smartphone. I also assume running Ubuntu on my phone would sacrifice accessibility to the play store, which I find strange since Ubuntu is currently ONLY supported for Google's flagship device, the Nexus 4 and of course Google's Galaxy Nexus.
So I guess my main questions are:
Is Ubuntu Touch and Ubuntu on a phone the same thing?
And is it possible to run Ubuntu phone OS on the LG Optimus G? Whether it's porting the official Nexus 4 release, or whatever other option there may be. It's probably not worth the hassle, as I've literally dug my Optimus G out of its own grave multiple times (thank you ZVC). But all I really use on my device are the main functions like call, sms, and camera, along with social media, so a lack of games and productivity apps are fine with me.
I'm probably a n00b, considering I didn't do much digging aside from seeing a few people running ubuntu touch on the LGOG succesfully, but most if not all of it dated back to the end of August through mid September, and I know the official release of Ubuntu for the Nexus 4 only dates back a few weeks ago.
tl;dr Is there a way to run Ubuntu, fully functional, on my LGOG (LS970)?
Thanks!
Video of Ubuntu Touch running on Sprint LGOG: www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=gRBtMPoAEvU
causeandeffectt said:
I had a thought the other night, as I was reading up on some tech information. The site had a post discussing the official release of Ubuntu for Phones, so far only available for the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4.
Well, since it's possible to turn the LG Optimus G into a Nexus 4, shouldn't the Nexus 4 Ubuntu ROM work on the LG Optimus G?
I know that it's all easier said than done, but I love the Ubuntu experience and as far as I know there are people that have successfully ran the beta version of Ubuntu Touch on the LG Optimus G, like here for example, but have had problems since the Nexus 4 is technically GSM only, where as the Sprint version of the LG Optimus G is CMDA.
I'm honestly tired of Jellybean, and I am just looking for a whole new mobile experience without really having to blow any more money on a smartphone. I also assume running Ubuntu on my phone would sacrifice accessibility to the play store, which I find strange since Ubuntu is currently ONLY supported for Google's flagship device, the Nexus 4 and of course Google's Galaxy Nexus.
So I guess my main questions are:
Is Ubuntu Touch and Ubuntu on a phone the same thing?
And is it possible to run Ubuntu phone OS on the LG Optimus G? Whether it's porting the official Nexus 4 release, or whatever other option there may be. It's probably not worth the hassle, as I've literally dug my Optimus G out of its own grave multiple times (thank you ZVC). But all I really use on my device are the main functions like call, sms, and camera, along with social media, so a lack of games and productivity apps are fine with me.
I'm probably a n00b, considering I didn't do much digging aside from seeing a few people running ubuntu touch on the LGOG succesfully, but most if not all of it dated back to the end of August through mid September, and I know the official release of Ubuntu for the Nexus 4 only dates back a few weeks ago.
tl;dr Is there a way to run Ubuntu, fully functional, on my LGOG (LS970)?
Thanks!
Video of Ubuntu Touch running on Sprint LGOG: www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=gRBtMPoAEvU
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Honestly, at this time, no. I may be mistaken, but I think porting Ubuntu Touch to phones other than the GNex and N4 might be a ***** within itself, much less getting them halfway functional. But the guy at talk to for this would be @xboxfanj. Dude is a God when it comes to Android.
I would suggest the MIUI ROM floating around the forums for a different Android experience, but I think that build had some issues, mainly data. Not too sure.
iamterence said:
Honestly, at this time, no. I may be mistaken, but I think porting Ubuntu Touch to phones other than the GNex and N4 might be a ***** within itself, much less getting them halfway functional. But the guy at talk to for this would be @xboxfanj. Dude is a God when it comes to Android.
I would suggest the MIUI ROM floating around the forums for a different Android experience, but I think that build had some issues, mainly data. Not too sure.
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causeandeffectt said:
I had a thought the other night, as I was reading up on some tech information. The site had a post discussing the official release of Ubuntu for Phones, so far only available for the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4.
Well, since it's possible to turn the LG Optimus G into a Nexus 4, shouldn't the Nexus 4 Ubuntu ROM work on the LG Optimus G?
I know that it's all easier said than done, but I love the Ubuntu experience and as far as I know there are people that have successfully ran the beta version of Ubuntu Touch on the LG Optimus G, like here for example, but have had problems since the Nexus 4 is technically GSM only, where as the Sprint version of the LG Optimus G is CMDA.
I'm honestly tired of Jellybean, and I am just looking for a whole new mobile experience without really having to blow any more money on a smartphone. I also assume running Ubuntu on my phone would sacrifice accessibility to the play store, which I find strange since Ubuntu is currently ONLY supported for Google's flagship device, the Nexus 4 and of course Google's Galaxy Nexus.
So I guess my main questions are:
Is Ubuntu Touch and Ubuntu on a phone the same thing?
And is it possible to run Ubuntu phone OS on the LG Optimus G? Whether it's porting the official Nexus 4 release, or whatever other option there may be. It's probably not worth the hassle, as I've literally dug my Optimus G out of its own grave multiple times (thank you ZVC). But all I really use on my device are the main functions like call, sms, and camera, along with social media, so a lack of games and productivity apps are fine with me.
I'm probably a n00b, considering I didn't do much digging aside from seeing a few people running ubuntu touch on the LGOG succesfully, but most if not all of it dated back to the end of August through mid September, and I know the official release of Ubuntu for the Nexus 4 only dates back a few weeks ago.
tl;dr Is there a way to run Ubuntu, fully functional, on my LGOG (LS970)?
Thanks!
Video of Ubuntu Touch running on Sprint LGOG: www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=gRBtMPoAEvU
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Thanks for the kind words, @iamterence. It really means a lot.
Anyway, to answer the original question: the only major barrier to us having a (mostly) working Ubuntu Phone ROM is the fact that their telephony stack (the part of the OS itself that deals with all phone operations, and communicates with the RIL (Radio Interface Layer), which communicates with your hardware and software radio/modems) does not support CDMA yet. Even if everything device specific is in place, the OS itself does not support CDMA yet, which is possible to fix, but is something that would have to be done by people much smarter than me. Part of the reason that CDMA is not supported is that most of the development of Ubuntu takes place in Europe, which banned CDMA, as it didn't want the competing standards mess we have in the United States, meaning that the core team would be unable to test it and likely wouldn't want to focus on it yet. Verizon is on the Carrier Development Committee, so that should mean we'll get some CDMA support relatively soon (next Spring maybe).
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Thanks for the kind words, @iamterence. It really means a lot.
Anyway, to answer the original question: the only major barrier to us having a (mostly) working Ubuntu Phone ROM is the fact that their telephony stack (the part of the OS itself that deals with all phone operations, and communicates with the RIL (Radio Interface Layer), which communicates with your hardware and software radio/modems) does not support CDMA yet. Even if everything device specific is in place, the OS itself does not support CDMA yet, which is possible to fix, but is something that would have to be done by people much smarter than me. Part of the reason that CDMA is not supported is that most of the development of Ubuntu takes place in Europe, which banned CDMA, as it didn't want the competing standards mess we have in the United States, meaning that the core team would be unable to test it and likely wouldn't want to focus on it yet. Verizon is on the Carrier Development Committee, so that should mean we'll get some CDMA support relatively soon (next Spring maybe).
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I too am interested in this. Sounds like we're pretty much stuck until official CDMA support is rolled in. Hopefully this will happen sooner than later (spring isn't too far away, but sooner would be nice ) I'm not at all trying to pin you down or make you commit to anything, but I am curious if this is something you'd consider taking up when CDMA support does become native? Just curious if I should be hopeful to see Ubuntu Touch on our phone or not. I for one am pretty excited by their OS thus far, at least from the things I've seen. Haven't held one in my hands or anything.
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I too am interested in this. Sounds like we're pretty much stuck until official CDMA support is rolled in. Hopefully this will happen sooner than later (spring isn't too far away, but sooner would be nice ) I'm not at all trying to pin you down or make you commit to anything, but I am curious if this is something you'd consider taking up when CDMA support does become native? Just curious if I should be hopeful to see Ubuntu Touch on our phone or not. I for one am pretty excited by their OS thus far, at least from the things I've seen. Haven't held one in my hands or anything.
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Absolutely. I really like the OS, but can't run it for more than five minutes considering the lack of CDMA, although, I heard from GEEB users that they also don't have service. Not sure why that is, since mako and us use the same radio libraries.
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Absolutely. I really like the OS, but can't run it for more than five minutes considering the lack of CDMA, although, I heard from GEEB users that they also don't have service. Not sure why that is, since mako and us use the same radio libraries.
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Very nice. Hopefully things will move along quickly. I also hope that the OS matures at a rapid rate so that it will meet a reasonable user's needs in the near future.
From what I've read/seen, the operating system IS able to boot on our phones, but as xboxfanj said, the lack of cdma support is what kills us. If we were on a gsm network (or once everything moves on to the lte network) , as is the rest of the world, it would hypothetically be non-issue. However, it is still in development preview regardless, so features haven't necessarily been fully implemented. Regardless, I like to break things, so I'm eventually going to see if I can't get it to boot, just to see how it feels if it ever does gain cdma support, or I just happen to eventually upgrade
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Hey guys, if your still interested, you may want to take a look at my post on dual-booting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48890845
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Hey guys, if your still interested, you may want to take a look at my post on dual-booting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48890845
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That was a bit fun having a go on. It definitely feels early in maturity. Hopefully the development community will move it along quickly.
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That was a bit fun having a go on. It definitely feels early in maturity. Hopefully the development community will move it along quickly.
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Yeah I never got around to messing with the dual boot yesterday but the OS is pretty smooth. Navigation may take a bit to get used to(Im so used to the home and back capacitive buttons) but it does still feel early in maturity. I would like to get a running version of this simply because it's so completely different from our other choices currently. AOSP roms are obviously going to have a lot in common so this would be a nice change.
HPTesla said:
Yeah I never got around to messing with the dual boot yesterday but the OS is pretty smooth. Navigation may take a bit to get used to(Im so used to the home and back capacitive buttons) but it does still feel early in maturity. I would like to get a running version of this simply because it's so completely different from our other choices currently. AOSP roms are obviously going to have a lot in common so this would be a nice change.
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I agree about the navigation bit, definitely feels like it will take some getting used to, however I must say that swiping up from the bottom of the screen (brings up the back button and what should be the rest of the navigation ) does seem fairly intuitive for the OS. I am going to miss the home and back buttons being so quick to access. It is certainly the biggest digression from the normal stuff around here. With the fact that it can be dual booted with Android, I think there is a lot of potential down the road for this. Especially since that way users can experience and dabble with it while it gains maturity and has kinks worked out, but a simple reboot takes brings back full functionality. Seems like the best of both worlds honestly.
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I agree about the navigation bit, definitely feels like it will take some getting used to, however I must say that swiping up from the bottom of the screen (brings up the back button and what should be the rest of the navigation ) does seem fairly intuitive for the OS. I am going to miss the home and back buttons being so quick to access. It is certainly the biggest digression from the normal stuff around here. With the fact that it can be dual booted with Android, I think there is a lot of potential down the road for this. Especially since that way users can experience and dabble with it while it gains maturity and has kinks worked out, but a simple reboot takes brings back full functionality. Seems like the best of both worlds honestly.
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Yeah I totally agree - and I do like the swiping up bit. It's how I have PIE controls currently enabled. Being able to dual boot in and of itself would be awesome. I would also like this to gain some traction. I can run a full ubuntu desktop on my lgog now(via terminal emulator and androidvnc), its much smoother than my old evo, but still far from perfect. It's funny seeing someones face the first time they see me use GIMP or vlc on my phone. I understand why ubuntu touch/phone is a bigger priority for Canonical though.
EDIT: Just read an article where Mark Shuttleworth (CEO of Canonical) stated that Ubuntu for TV,Tablet and Android will be available in Ubuntu 14.04 (Next LTS version due this April), so hopefully he isn't bsing.
HPTesla said:
Yeah I totally agree - and I do like the swiping up bit. It's how I have PIE controls currently enabled. Being able to dual boot in and of itself would be awesome. I would also like this to gain some traction. I can run a full ubuntu desktop on my lgog now(via terminal emulator and androidvnc), its much smoother than my old evo, but still far from perfect. It's funny seeing someones face the first time they see me use GIMP or vlc on my phone. I understand why ubuntu touch/phone is a bigger priority for Canonical though.
EDIT: Just read an article where Mark Shuttleworth (CEO of Canonical) stated that Ubuntu for TV,Tablet and Android will be available in Ubuntu 14.04 (Next LTS version due this April), so hopefully he isn't bsing.
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That's pretty cool running the full desktop. I remember seeing that back when it was announced. I think it would be really neat. I mean it makes a lot of sense to me as phones become increasingly more powerful. It seems like ARM support is still needing some refinement. I've been running xubuntu in a chroot on my Samsung Chromebook. While it does work not everything does as smoothly as x86 and 64 hardware.
Is androidvnc a VM app? Sounds pretty interesting. I have free access to VMWare for PC, because of my major, but have yet to mess with it. Yeah I can see why Canonical places so much importance on the touch version, I mean the mobile market is exploding.
I really hope the information in your edit comes to pass. Hopefully that means they're focusing on improving ARM support.
mobius1484 said:
Is androidvnc a VM app? Sounds pretty interesting. I have free access to VMWare for PC, because of my major, but have yet to mess with it.
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VNC stands for Virtual Network Computing but not the same as VMWare. Think "remote control" for a pc. So basically you use Terminal emulator to install Ubuntu and run it, then you use vnc to remotely control it by connecting to whats running in the terminal. It will bring up the OS when connected. It's meant to control the computer remotely, but in this case it's the only way I know of to use the Ubuntu thats running in the terminal(at least graphically). I have both Oracle Virtualbox and VMWare on my computer because I only use Linux. So if I REALLY need something windows based(Like LGNPST for our phone) I'll use VMWare. The wine frontend for Linux is pretty hit or miss so I never use it(I dont even have it installed anymore), I just load Windows virtually. Normally I use WindowsXP on Virtualbox but LGNPST doesnt play well with Virtualbox(USB isnt handled the same way as VMWare).
If you see an app in the play store called Complete Linux Installer, that's what it does. It installs the ARM version of Ubuntu(or whatever distro you pick), then runs it in terminal emulator. But to see the GUI you then have to log in via AndroidVNC(or a similar VNC program, only ever used AndroidVNC though).
EDIT: I forgot to mention that their are some other requirements, like a kernel that supports loopback devices.
HPTesla said:
VNC stands for Virtual Network Computing but not the same as VMWare. Think "remote control" for a pc. So basically you use Terminal emulator to install Ubuntu and run it, then you use vnc to remotely control it by connecting to whats running in the terminal. It will bring up the OS when connected. It's meant to control the computer remotely, but in this case it's the only way I know of to use the Ubuntu thats running in the terminal(at least graphically). I have both Oracle Virtualbox and VMWare on my computer because I only use Linux. So if I REALLY need something windows based(Like LGNPST for our phone) I'll use VMWare. The wine frontend for Linux is pretty hit or miss so I never use it(I dont even have it installed anymore), I just load Windows virtually. Normally I use WindowsXP on Virtualbox but LGNPST doesnt play well with Virtualbox(USB isnt handled the same way as VMWare).
If you see an app in the play store called Complete Linux Installer, that's what it does. It installs the ARM version of Ubuntu(or whatever distro you pick), then runs it in terminal emulator. But to see the GUI you then have to log in via AndroidVNC(or a similar VNC program, only ever used AndroidVNC though).
EDIT: I forgot to mention that their are some other requirements, like a kernel that supports loopback devices.
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Oh okay, actually can't say I've ever heard of that before. Sounds pretty interesting really. I always love tinkering with things. Honestly I need to spend more time in Linux so I can become a CLI ninja master. I originally added it to my chromebook so I could use Open/Libre Office for when I needed a more complete experience for things like papers which are a bit hellish to format properly in GDrive (one of its weakest aspects honestly). Does the stock CM11 kernel have the loop back support? Is it much work to remote in? I've only used Chrome remote before.
mobius1484 said:
Oh okay, actually can't say I've ever heard of that before. Sounds pretty interesting really. I always love tinkering with things. Honestly I need to spend more time in Linux so I can become a CLI ninja master. I originally added it to my chromebook so I could use Open/Libre Office for when I needed a more complete experience for things like papers which are a bit hellish to format properly in GDrive (one of its weakest aspects honestly). Does the stock CM11 kernel have the loop back support? Is it much work to remote in? I've only used Chrome remote before.
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Yeah cm11 kernel should. My experience has been that most non stock kernels should have it. And by non stock I mean the exact kernel that came with your device, both the lgog and my old evo wouldnt support loopback until I either flashed something like CM or in the case of my lgog flashed viper kernel(still running stock). It's not hard to do at all, but if you want the easiest quickest method here is the play store link for Complete Linux Installer. Even the free version has step by step instructions on what you need and how to use it. It will also download some of the distro images for you thru the app. They are big images obviously so Wifi is recommended.
On Canada E973 post they have rom for ubuntu touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600702
[ROM] Ubuntu Touch [Jan-8-2014]
Sent from my LG-E977 using xda app-developers app

Ubuntu Touch

Anyone gotten or produced ubuntu touch for our LG G3 devices yet?
Grizzly6117 said:
Anyone gotten or produced ubuntu touch for our LG G3 devices yet?
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Nop way to much work for a niche market(only a handfull of users want it.
i'm on it, cause i personally want it too much xD
Currently building, hope it boots up
Maybe in another 2 years OP
I'm checking out the repo to give it a go.. I'll keep you up to date..

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