20 minutes at 100% charge. - Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone,
I observed a strange behavior of my arc s , when the phone reaches 100% charge and later when i unplug it my phone spends almost 20 minutes at this point and after some time it starts to discharge ie. it comes down by 1%.
But if i use it hear after it discharges rapidly.
I find this behavior very odd !
Can anyone explain me this behavior ???
Thank you in advance.
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Check battery use
Check battery use to see what is consuming the battery
Maybe WIFI and sleep policy,Bluetooth,Network type WCDMA/GSM ,GPS and accounts sync ?
Observe the diagram or the slope in the battery use to see is your battery draining fast or is it normal,also what rom and kernel are you using

Isn't that the normal behaviour of a battery coming from a smartphone? .-. Mine's like.. 20 minutes on 100% before starting going down, and it doesn't affect my overall battery life at all..

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Phenomzye said:
Isn't that the normal behaviour of a battery coming from a smartphone? .-. Mine's like.. 20 minutes on 100% before starting going down, and it doesn't affect my overall battery life at all..
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try to change kernel and rom / buy new battery

Im using maxmod ICS(V 1.1) and stock kernel.
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kzizo said:
Check battery use to see what is consuming the battery
Maybe WIFI and sleep policy,Bluetooth,Network type WCDMA/GSM ,GPS and accounts sync ?
Observe the diagram or the slope in the battery use to see is your battery draining fast or is it normal,also what rom and kernel are you using
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I have observed all of that.
Everything is fine, as the display uses the battery predominantly.
My guess is that is a sign for use to change the battery.
And also i see spikes in chart instead of going down the charge goes up and down.
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how old is the battery?
how old is the battery ?if the spike goes up that means it is connected to USB and the phone is charging .attached is my battery usage 7 % in 11 hours the slope is continuously going down as it's been unplugged and running on battery only ,phone and battery are a year and half old

The "spikes" you refer to are because your battery isnt well calibrated...
You can charge it fully, use it and when its around 5% charge it again to full. And if you delete the battery stats your battery must sette down over some day or two.
But for a better response you need to upload a picture of your battery stats.
My battery sometimes stays in 100% some minutes, some other times is goes down to 99 very quicky, but its normal for me cause it usually lengths for two days + with normal use

17th_angel said:
The "spikes" you refer to are because your battery isnt well calibrated...
You can charge it fully, use it and when its around 5% charge it again to full. And if you delete the battery stats your battery must sette down over some day or two.
But for a better response you need to upload a picture of your battery stats.
My battery sometimes stays in 100% some minutes, some other times is goes down to 99 very quicky, but its normal for me cause it usually lengths for two days + with normal use
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Thank you.
I will calibrate and put the graph after usage.
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kzizo said:
how old is the battery ?if the spike goes up that means it is connected to USB and the phone is charging .attached is my battery usage 7 % in 11 hours the slope is continuously going down as it's been unplugged and running on battery only ,phone and battery are a year and half old
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Its a year old.
Yes i totally agree the oly time the graph should go up is when its plugged in and not wen unplugged.
But i sometimes see the spikes when unplugged.
Nevertheless it has not degraded the performance.
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i agree with 17_Angel,upload a picture of your battery stats.

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[Q] Phone uses 2% battery every 15 minutes

My phone seems to be using 2% battery every 15 minutes on standby, worse when its on.
When I check what is running, it says Android OS 50%...... what can I do? I usually charge my phone three times a day.
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I use a variety of apps to check what is going on with my phone.
Watchdog - monitors apps for excessive cpu usage
Cpu spy - see how long your phone stays at each frequency, but more importantly in deep sleep.
Battery monitor widget - monitors battery usage
System tuner pro - get detailed analysis of a recorded system usage.
Also, when in battery usage, I click android os to see how long it has kept your phone awake. Have you made any changes to your phone? Installed a custom ROM?
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Also...give it a few days of charge-ups. It really does make a difference.
FWIW, with moderate use, my Droid Charge 4G does about 10-15% every hour. So I don't even think 8%/hr is that bad... :/
no changes to the phone, its all stock. Any benefits moving to a custom ROM on the nexus?
I've had the phone for two weeks, battery has deteriorated. Now charge it three times a day.
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Crazy CS said:
no changes to the phone, its all stock. Any benefits moving to a custom ROM on the nexus?
I've had the phone for two weeks, battery has deteriorated. Now charge it three times a day.
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You probably never calibrated it properly to begin with. Charge to 100% > unplug > wipe batterystats.bin > let the battery drain completely until the phone powers off. Then charge it continuously over night and in the morning unplug and let the phone drain completely until it powers off.
I am a pretty heavy user as I text literally every 2 minutes all day (girlfriend ) and I manage to get 20-25 hours easily.
I also drain my battery out completely every day for good measure
Charging in between screws up your calibration, try not to charge unless you are below 15%. And do not disconnect it until it is fully charged (98-100%).
Note: I've also noticed wifi saves you a lot more battery juice than being on 3G/4G, so keep your wifi active if you are in range
KiNG OMaR said:
I also drain my battery out completely every day for good measure
Charging in between screws up your calibration, try not to charge unless you are below 15%. And do not disconnect it until it is fully charged (98-100%).
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This is just not accurate for Lithium Ion batteries, which have no cell memory and gain more from frequent shallow charges than deep charges.
krohnjw said:
This is just not accurate for Lithium Ion batteries, which have no cell memory and gain more from frequent shallow charges than deep charges.
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Not to mention draining a Li-ion past 5% can shorten the life of the battery.
Further Li-ion's have a lifespan measured in cycles. You get about 500 cycles on a typical Li-ion. A cycle is a drain and charge. If you use 50% of the charge and then recharge to 100% you only use half a cycle. By needlessly draining the battery you are using up limited cycles reducing the life span of the battery.
While I'm sure android's calibration needs to know the upper and lower boundaries of a charge I'm certain it would be smart enough to handle charges when the battery isn't completely drained. Most battery calibrations work this way. Every once in a while you need to charge to 100% drain to 5% and recharge without using to 100%
Wheres battery stats.bin located?
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Crazy CS said:
Wheres battery stats.bin located?
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Clockwork Recovery -> Advanced.
.. file is in /data/system i believe
its probably a bad app working with ICS.
Use watchdog and it will tell you.
Check your widgets that they aren't constantly refreshing.

Bad battery life! Help!

So i started using faux kernel and Juggernaut 4.1. I had about 16 hours of battery life. Now my phone drops from 100% to 94% in like 20 minutes. Any help or ideas? Thanks guys.
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Download "battery calibration"
Follow steps provided within app
All fixed
Unless you Hella used your in 20 minutes to make it drop that fast
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since you're rooted, you can use cwm(ClockWorkMode) Recovery, go to advance and clear battery stats(battery calibration)... or you can shut off you phone, let it charge 100%.. takeout the battery for about 50sec(inspect the battery for leakage"which could damage your phone, if it's leaking" if it's leaking replace your battery), put it back, plug your charger, turn you phone on, while plugged let it show the 100% charge on the notification bar then you should be good..
I have noticed that my battery life drops pretty quickly if i am doing a lot of browsing, etc on the phone.
If its in standby it loses 1% approx every 7-11 minutes.
jordanishere said:
If its in standby it loses 1% approx every 7-11 minutes.
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I think it was normal, all i can think of is you leave wifi on, weak wifi signal when screen off. BTW im just saying
Im having some battery issues as well.. except ive done the battery calibration through the die hard battery script and by wiping my batter stats through CWM. ive tried both of these ways then using the phone for about a week after ive done either. the problem is that my phone wont let the battery fully drain.. or even close, ill show to have about 5% left and ill check the remaining mV through the die hard script and it will have 3615mV left, which according to the the script, should be about 40% remaining. fully charged battery has 4208mV at total capacity does anybody know what the mV level should be when the phone is less than 5% and how i can fix this?? I am getting pretty good life out the battery usually lasting from 22+ hours but if this is right i should getting alot more.
blchff04 said:
I am getting pretty good life out the battery usually lasting from 22+ hours but if this is right i should getting alot more.
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22hrs sounds pretty good to me.
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jordanishere said:
22hrs sounds pretty good to me.
Its great compared to stock but Im on a mission to maximize the battery as much as possible and when i cant use the remainder 40% of the battery it gets frustrating...
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[Q] New battery problems

Hi guys
recently i bought new battery because my old one used to jump
from 70% to 100% and had really bad battery life.
i replaced the battery and calibrated it and i noticed that the 20% from 100% to 80% goes down realy fast
should i recaibrate the battery?
what should i do? thanks!
It depends on the rom u r using.
All roms except stock based roms have this problem.
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Im using aosp by maclaw studios
the weird thing is that the 70% acts like it 100% and im having really good battery life
from 70%
Its a problem in sumsung charge system.
In custom roms when u full charge battery it is about 80 % charged.
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I think you should charge it when the phone is turned off. I noticed that my phone tells me it is "Charged" when it is turned on. However the actual percentage in Go Power Master is 80%.
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so it has nothing to do with the battery quality and the battery calibration?
the problem will not appear in the stock rom?
Thats if needed. To check if the battery is fully charged, try these step.
1. Charge the when it is running until it says "Charged".
2. Turn off the phone and keep the charger plugged in.
3. The battery image will appear. If it is not full, wait till it full. When it shows 100% then it is fully charged.
Note that powering up the phone takes some significant amount of battery. If the battery is still draining fast. Calibrate may be needed.
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enchanced rom shows 100 percent but still shows charging. So I guess it fully charges
Well the battery level seems to be jumping unusually from time to time . What i do is i wipe the battery stats from cwm , i leave it over night to fully charge without doing anything to it , calibrate the battery with `battery calibration` from playstore , full discharge and full charge again . I do this after each rom that i flash and it seems to do good and seems to point the right amount. Anyway the charge lasts as i hope it lasts , from 1 day if i do stuff with it like some wifi , some messaging , many minutes of calls .... to about 3 days if i do only calls. Cheers

[Q] Questions about battery life.

-Does keeping the phone plugged in via USB (when battery is at 100%) decrease battery life?
-Approximately how long should the battery last if the phone idles? If the screen is on 24/7?
-Are these batteries any good compared to the stock one?
IamaznX said:
-Does keeping the phone plugged in via USB (when battery is at 100%) decrease battery life?
-Approximately how long should the battery last if the phone idles? If the screen is on 24/7?
-Are these batteries any good compared to the stock one?
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1.) Plugging in the phone while charged does decrease the battery life as you can only charge a battery for lets say 1000 cycles or so.
2.) Battery life depends on how long you use your phone, your ROM so I couldn't say. But my phone with the screen on lasts about 8 hours (SGH-T989)
3.) Check the reviews, it has five stars so I would assume that the battery is pretty good.
nivekx9 said:
1.) Plugging in the phone while charged does decrease the battery life as you can only charge a battery for lets say 1000 cycles or so.
2.) Battery life depends on how long you use your phone, your ROM so I couldn't say. But my phone with the screen on lasts about 8 hours (SGH-T989)
3.) Check the reviews, it has five stars so I would assume that the battery is pretty good.
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Is losing about 30% battery life overnight (about 7 hours) with the screen off normal?
IamaznX said:
Is losing about 30% battery life overnight (about 7 hours) with the screen off normal?
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Ehh I wouldn't think so...unless something is waking it up every now and then like a app or something...I normally loose about 10% if that if I let it sit over night
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IamaznX said:
Is losing about 30% battery life overnight (about 7 hours) with the screen off normal?
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Not at all. I would use a battery monitor app to see what's draining the battery because that's very excessive drainage.
I can't imagine how much it drains when you're actually using it...
what rom/kernel are you using?
I agree with what others here have said, but just to add a little something, I heard that for the best battery "life" its best to try and keep it between 20% to 90%. Don't quote me, I heard it on one of those YouTube tech channels, I wonder if that is true. I always thought that it was best to completely kill the battery and then fully charge it.
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inocent3 said:
I agree with what others here have said, but just to add a little something, I heard that for the best battery "life" its best to try and keep it between 20% to 90%. Don't quote me, I heard it on one of those YouTube tech channels, I wonder if that is true. I always thought that it was best to completely kill the battery and then fully charge it.
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That's for a new battery. Only for a couple full cycles. Else it's best to charge when you hit 15-20 and charge uninterrupted to 100.
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[Q] Battery drop after reboot?

I've been experiencing huge battery drops (from 10% up to 20%) after I reboot my phone. Is this a KitKat issue or is it my battery?
In the morning from 99% (after checking a few messages in the morning), I rebooted and I dropped 11% to 88%.
I think It may have been my battery giving me the huge drops. I don't seem to have this issue any more after buying a new one. :good:
I didnt found it on reboots, but i have this problem when i enter recovery. 20 minutes in recovery - i dont hace 20% of battery.
artur1131 said:
I didnt found it on reboots, but i have this problem when i enter recovery. 20 minutes in recovery - i dont hace 20% of battery.
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Hmmm that's strange.
I've noticed it usually drops more when I leave my headphones in.
full loaded ACE 2.
reboot cost u 5%
first 10 % gone in a few minutes for heavy users and in a few hours when deepsleep !!
what i wanna say.
the first 10 % gone in a few.
after that normal drain.
I often get this, although not as bad. I usually lose 2-5% on a reboot, sometimes up to 10%. The other week I charged it to 100% when it was off, turned it on and had 92%.
so is this actually a problem or is it normal for everyone?. Mine looses 5-8% in the first couple of minutes after I unplug the charger..
It's normal.
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edithswanneck said:
I often get this, although not as bad. I usually lose 2-5% on a reboot, sometimes up to 10%. The other week I charged it to 100% when it was off, turned it on and had 92%.
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Same experience. Around 5% to 10% is lost during my reboots.
ulalume said:
so is this actually a problem or is it normal for everyone?. Mine looses 5-8% in the first couple of minutes after I unplug the charger..
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Its normal. I usually lose the first 5% of a full charge in a couple of minutes. After it gets to 95%, battery charge will drain normally depending on usage.
Vino Kulafu said:
Same experience. Around 5% to 10% is lost during my reboots.
Its normal. I usually lose the first 5% of a full charge in a couple of minutes. After it gets to 95%, battery charge will drain normally depending on usage.
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ok then, thanks...I just thought that this didn;t happen when I was on GB, but it doesn;t matter anyway..
If I reboot once, I will lose between 5 - 10% battery. However, if I reboot straight after the first reboot, I will lose between 0 - 2% battery. I've never really understood this.
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Phone need more energy for reboot, that causing the drain. Mine usually drop 2-5%. After recharge battery alsi drop to 95-92% fast. Thats normal
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Battery Charging Issue
Is this normal?
When I charge my battery whether it be from mains or USB computer it charges ok, but as soon as it gets to 100% it still says charging for a little time and doesn't report the unplug charger message right away.
With the Jellybean 4.1.2 system I don't get the alert tone when the battery reaches FULL, therefore I have a feeling that when it still says charging even though it's showing 100% that it's actually decreasing power at that point, any help please?
I have tried other batteries, and one in particular goes from 90% right up to 100% and seems to miss that last 10 percent, so I don't use that one now.
I have the most current firmware installed.
Buy a new one
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pbgrout said:
Is this normal?
When I charge my battery whether it be from mains or USB computer it charges ok, but as soon as it gets to 100% it still says charging for a little time and doesn't report the unplug charger message right away.
With the Jellybean 4.1.2 system I don't get the alert tone when the battery reaches FULL, therefore I have a feeling that when it still says charging even though it's showing 100% that it's actually decreasing power at that point, any help please?
I have tried other batteries, and one in particular goes from 90% right up to 100% and seems to miss that last 10 percent, so I don't use that one now.
I have the most current firmware installed.
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when it says 100%, you still have to wait for a few minutes before it displays the green "full" icon in the upper left corner and asks you to disconnect the charger.
However, the first 5-8% always drains REALLY fast and not proportionally to the rest of the battery drain...
I think It may have been my battery giving me the huge drops. I don't seem to have this issue any more after buying a new one.
ItsHumf said:
I think It may have been my battery giving me the huge drops. I don't seem to have this issue any more after buying a new one.
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what about the initial drain? does the first 10% still drop fast or has this changed too with the new battery?
I just wish that JellyBean 4.1.2 would give an alert sound when the battery has reached it's full limit like Gingerbread used to do.
Who would be the best place to ask them to do this on their next update?
But I think that it does..a very short one indeed, but it does, along with the screen lighting up briefly..
ulalume said:
But I think that it does..a very short one indeed, but it does, along with the screen lighting up briefly..
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Doesn't make a sound on my phone and im not always looking at my phone to see it light up.
I have sounds all turned on and on full volume so no reason why I dont hear a sound when its reached full capacity.
ItsHumf said:
I've been experiencing huge battery drops (from 10% up to 20%) after I reboot my phone. Is this a KitKat issue or is it my battery?
In the morning from 99% (after checking a few messages in the morning), I rebooted and I dropped 11% to 88%.
I think It may have been my battery giving me the huge drops. I don't seem to have this issue any more after buying a new one. :good:
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are you using custom battery ? like double-powered-battery

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