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372mb RAM instead of 512?

I tried searching for this one and couldn't come up with any good answers on here, but it's something that I've been wondering since I got the G2. I've noticed that no matter what rom I use, the total memory in settings>about phone never shows up more than 400mb. I can't be sure of the exact amount for all the roms I've tried in the past, but I remember thinking it peculiar, although thinking about the internal memory and the fact that it was advertised as 4gb and only registers as 1.2gb, I was thinking maybe this is a similar thing?
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Gwanatu said:
I tried searching for this one and couldn't come up with any good answers on here, but it's something that I've been wondering since I got the G2. I've noticed that no matter what rom I use, the total memory in settings>about phone never shows up more than 400mb. I can't be sure of the exact amount for all the roms I've tried in the past, but I remember thinking it peculiar, although thinking about the internal memory and the fact that it was advertised as 4gb and only registers as 1.2gb, I was thinking maybe this is a similar thing?
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Get a better phone, this is normal.

Get a good one damnit
meXdroid Ghost Chilli

The rest is used up by the operating system.
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Normal. My mt4g never shows more than 500mb after a fresh reboot.
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tackleberry said:
Normal. My mt4g never shows more than 500mb after a fresh reboot.
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That's normal to..
Look at this example
You buy a computer for 400 and in order to play crysis you need to have 2000 total dollars.
The 400 is for the computer, 50 of that is for crysis and the remaining 1550 is used to increase your computers everything just to freaking play that graphic hog game..
Okay better example
You eat a twinkie, it looks good at first, the commercial urges you to buy it. Even the box makes it look good, but once you eat it you realize your stomach hurts and it was a waste of time buying something that is so fattening you wish you hadn't.. bloatware much?

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melodicjunkie said:
That's normal to..
Look at this example
You buy a computer for 400 and in order to play crysis you need to have 2000 total dollars.
The 400 is for the computer, 50 of that is for crysis and the remaining 1550 is used to increase your computers everything just to freaking play that graphic hog game..
Okay better example
You eat a twinkie, it looks good at first, the commercial urges you to buy it. Even the box makes it look good, but once you eat it you realize your stomach hurts and it was a waste of time buying something that is so fattening you wish you hadn't.. bloatware much?
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what? how does this at all help anyone understand this.

martonikaj said:
what? how does this at all help anyone understand this.
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i think he's just saying that the OS is using up the other resources
compare it with a sony PSP.. since it doesn't run a lot of programs in the background, it can play graphics intensive games with such low clocked cpu and less ram compared to mobile phones
BTW i know you are talking about the physical memory but just wanted to bring it out there
you can check the link given by Innocent Devil and check the "The Missing 2GB" part. it explains it there

krizz07 said:
BTW i know you are talking about the physical memory but just wanted to bring it out there
you can check the link given by Innocent Devil and check the "The Missing 2GB" part. it explains it there
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This has *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING* to do with the "missing 2GB".
The question is about RAM, not storage.
Most relevant example;
You buy a new computer with an integrated video adapter. You go into the BIOS configuration program and it has an option to change the amount of RAM being allocated to the GPU -- 64 MB, 128 MB, 256 MB, or 512 MB. You have 4 GB total and set the GPU to 512 MB. When you boot into your operating system, you only see 3.5 GB. Where is the missing 0.5 GB? Its allocated to the GPU.
In addition to allocating a whole bunch to the GPU, these phones are actually TWO COMPUTERS (with two separate CPUs) that run two different operating systems concurrently. The first one is the RADIO system, responsible for messing with the wireless. The second one is the APPLICATION system, which runs the user operating system and interface (Android). They share a common pool of RAM, so some of it is allocated to the RADIO, some is allocated to the GPU (and other media components), and only what remains is available to Android.

Thanks for those of you that gave me good answers! This clears things right up!
dhkr234 said:
This has *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING* to do with the "missing 2GB".
The question is about RAM, not storage.
Most relevant example;
You buy a new computer with an integrated video adapter. You go into the BIOS configuration program and it has an option to change the amount of RAM being allocated to the GPU -- 64 MB, 128 MB, 256 MB, or 512 MB. You have 4 GB total and set the GPU to 512 MB. When you boot into your operating system, you only see 3.5 GB. Where is the missing 0.5 GB? Its allocated to the GPU.
In addition to allocating a whole bunch to the GPU, these phones are actually TWO COMPUTERS (with two separate CPUs) that run two different operating systems concurrently. The first one is the RADIO system, responsible for messing with the wireless. The second one is the APPLICATION system, which runs the user operating system and interface (Android). They share a common pool of RAM, so some of it is allocated to the RADIO, some is allocated to the GPU (and other media components), and only what remains is available to Android.
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Very interesting, didn't know about the dual OS thing. Makes sense though, and I figured that was the case but just wanted a sure fire answer. Thanks a lot!!

dhkr234 said:
This has *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING* to do with the "missing 2GB".
The question is about RAM, not storage.
oopsie you're right.. i guess the PSP comparison is the one applicable then haha
he's absolutely right, the other ram is for the OS itself and the rest is for your other apps. this makes the phone silky smooth when running tasks unlike my touch pro 2 before, which has a very low ram plus all the "memory leakage" but it still has the best keyboard
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Free memory?

How much of the 3gb memory will be available for use? Nexus 10 announced to have 2gb, but after buying it I realized actual available memory is 1.1gb. So, the question is, will same do the same thing?
Any ideas?
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Are you talking about ram?
If yes, maybe 2.3-2.5...
For example, HTC One have 2 GB of ram, but you can use 1.5.
So, we have to see when the tablet is released

The purpose of having RAM in your phone/computer etc is to increase performance. You don't increase the performance by leaving the ram free. You use it.
Free RAM is wasted RAM

i think most people here should understand that if you're not using your ram then it's wasted. but i think he wants to know how much is available to apps after the gpu and system take their share.
someone posted a screenshot in one of the threads and i thought it was somewhere around 2.3GB.

madsquabbles said:
someone posted a screenshot in one of the threads and i thought it was somewhere around 2.3GB.
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Good, 2.3 GB
However, you're right.
People didn't understand that ram will be full..
Every one will kill all process ._.

[Q] LG G4 free ram, anyone know?

how many mb left after you clear the RAM?
thanks

no one knows?
i just dont want to have a flagship with free ram 500mb only like S6 edge

You do know that free ram isn't a factor on performance with Android right? Also get rid of your bloat. My L90 has almost 400 free all the time and i have a gig of ram.

xantanion said:
You do know that free ram isn't a factor on performance with Android right? Also get rid of your bloat. My L90 has almost 400 free all the time and i have a gig of ram.
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I know
But my xiaomi redmi 1s has 400mb free ram and my super expensive S6 EDGE only has 500mb left after I clear the RAM
And no ... bloatware removal and everything don't help
It makes my Chrome browser reload reload reload reload reload the page over and over and over and over again
Wasting my mobile data plan
All i want to know is how much the free ram on the G4

Hope this helps!
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jason-tech-uk said:
Hope this helps!
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many thanks!!

My H815 had about 1.4GB free after cleaning open apps pretty much after just starting it up and not installing much.

chobits said:
how many mb left after you clear the RAM?
thanks
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free ram is wasted ram, keep this in mind if you are looking for best performance and not just for a good illusionary feeling to have a lot of capacity in reserve

xantanion said:
You do know that free ram isn't a factor on performance with Android right? Also get rid of your bloat. My L90 has almost 400 free all the time and i have a gig of ram.
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Wait what?
First you tell him RAM no matter for performance - which is utter nonsense & one simple bit of proof on that is the fact since day 1 of the first Droid phone - 2009 - we have gone from 256 to 512 to 1gb to 2gb to 3gb & some are about to push 4gb RAM. If it's not a performance benefit why is that 1 spec that has & does continued to grow? Because it SERIOUSLY matters for performance.
But then you contradict yourself by telling him to clear bloat... but if RAM does not matter why advise cleaning out bloatware?
Ps - do some research on the S6 memory leak... RAM matters & phones with 1gb RAM should be outlawed

Oh I'm sorry perhaps I should have just done this http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Free ram does not matter as I was saying. if your phone is laggy the main reason for this will be the BLOAT that is installed by your carrier or the os itself. Ram works differently in android than it does on windows and other operating systems. so as I said FREE RAM. doesn't matter as long as you have enough on it for whatever programs you are running. 1 gig works just fine for everything I do. Then again I don't game on my phone, I do that on a computer or a console.

xantanion said:
Oh I'm sorry perhaps I should have just done this http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Free ram does not matter as I was saying. if your phone is laggy the main reason for this will be the BLOAT that is installed by your carrier or the os itself. Ram works differently in android than it does on windows and other operating systems. so as I said FREE RAM. doesn't matter as long as you have enough on it for whatever programs you are running. 1 gig works just fine for everything I do. Then again I don't game on my phone, I do that on a computer or a console.
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1. did you actually just link to a 2011 article?
2. you did not answer my question as to why RAM numbers keep going up yearly and have since the first Droid? If it is of no value, why add cost by adding more? Of all the things a phone maker can and does do, why keep adding RAM and yet, for example, drop the MicroSD?
3. And, if bloat removal is the answer.. why? I will tell you why.. they are eating RAM. If it is not that, then why worry about bloat? Of course, you can worry about bloat if you are low on storage, but assume storage is fine (you have 20 of 32gb free for example). Ok, remove bloat and then what? How did it benefit you? It benefitted you by not having apps using RAM - simply put. Which pretty much is saying performance is impacted by bloat which impacts available RAM which impacts performance so cut out your bloatware and improve performance and... free up more RAM.
ps - I don't game either, I'll take more RAM any day.

Ok I have an LG G4 ATT. Fresh factory reset. All bloatware disabled or removed if able. Nothing installed at all yet. OS updated to current release. Straight simple stock phone. No accounts set for anything. phone uses 2.7g of RAM available. Phone turned on with brand new battery dies at 7% in 10min. 3batterys all new tested. Issue is the excessive amount of RAM being used. Android os alone shouldn't kill a phone. This is point blank fact. Phone stated battery life is trashed and is pointless of even mentioning if the RAM issue doesn't matter. Bottom line. Theirs a issue. Developers or manufacturers of these phones needs to quit worrying about making all this money just by adding more RAM. RAM is used in same way as a PC. (Random Access memory) not (ready available memory)
And just a say to these companies making new phones. Make the phones for the people that's buying them not to add money to ur pockets. A non removable battery? Why even think that will make things better? Batteries go bad. We all know this. Removing the micro SD slots. Blocking us from using the SD as a write disk. Oh i forgot. Companies making these phone want only our money. Got ya. They know we have to either buy a new phone when that battery goes bad, u have to buy this 32gb or 64gb or 128gb phone at retarded added costs for more space. Stop thinking ur helping the world by making sopused better phones. Start listening to the buyers and what we want. Ur likely to actually make better devices and make more money in the long run.
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How to increase Internal,Ram

Hey guys I have a Xperia s running on 6.0.1 aosp ROM...it is rooted and repartitioned ...can anyone tell me how to get the complete 32gb and 1gb ram coz the custom ROM has eaten my 3gb internal and I need full 1gb ram ..thks

Have you ever used a computer before?
The OS needs resources, it's a piece of software after all. The GPU will, in turn take some RAM, as it's not exactly a GeForce with dedicated RAM.
In other words, the only way you're getting 32 GB and 1 GB of RAM is if you uninstall everything, including the OS. Good luck doing anything with it other than holding down some sheets of paper or balancing a table.

OP3 use of RAM memory

Hello, i recently bought a One Plus 3, basically because i wanted to have more RAM, but i noticed that even though i have like 6Gb of Ram to do whatever i want, the phone uses with nothing open like 1,5Gb of RAM, the 500mb of RAM doesn't bother me because they come from apps i usually use, but the fact the launcher itself uses 1Gb is like way too much, i come from a Galaxy S3 with less than 1Gb of Ram and the TouchWiz laucher which is heavy only used like 400-500mb of RAM why is this? I know the easiest answer would be that the OP3 has more things, but do we really gain a lot more of functions that justify this heavy use of RAM from the launcher, or are we looking at not-well optimized launcher?

well your gs3 couldnt really use 1gb of ram and the oneplus 3 can. easy as that.

timrock7 said:
well your gs3 couldnt really use 1gb of ram and the oneplus 3 can. easy as that.
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that means the OP3 is not as well optimized as the touchwiz?

No.. GS3 runs older OS like kitkat but as OS Improves they require more ram OP3 is now on Nougat which is amazing so duh... It needs more ram

Unused RAM is wasted RAM. As the OP3 has 6GB of RAM, it can allocate more RAM to certain apps and the launcher to ensure that nothing is closed in the background and everything runs smooth. Don't worry about RAM usage. For example if you launch a game, the game will then have priority to ensure that it is allocated enough RAM. Android is smart in its use of RAM so no need to worry.

tommybarchi said:
Hello, i recently bought a One Plus 3, basically because i wanted to have more RAM, but i noticed that even though i have like 6Gb of Ram to do whatever i want, the phone uses with nothing open like 1,5Gb of RAM, the 500mb of RAM doesn't bother me because they come from apps i usually use, but the fact the launcher itself uses 1Gb is like way too much, i come from a Galaxy S3 with less than 1Gb of Ram and the TouchWiz laucher which is heavy only used like 400-500mb of RAM why is this? I know the easiest answer would be that the OP3 has more things, but do we really gain a lot more of functions that justify this heavy use of RAM from the launcher, or are we looking at not-well optimized launcher?
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That's why we have 6 gigs of RAM. Think little bit. They can use it as we have it. Pretty simple, right?

See its similar to methodology as if you you have larger space on bed you will occupy more space, similar to this when you have higher ram allocation to particular app is continuously decreased and increased so if no other apps are running allocation to your launcher will be higher to give it a smoother operation but as you start opening more ram hungry apps the allocation then decreases allocation for uelr launcher and allocate it accordingly

Go check how RAM and RAM management works.
It's kinda pointless to waste time explaining something here if you lack the basics about this topic.
Long story short: the more you have, the more will be used. Take the same desktop OS, install it on machines with vastly different RAM capacities and you'll see different RAM usages.
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The more used ram the better, at least in vast majority of scenarios