I tried searching for this one and couldn't come up with any good answers on here, but it's something that I've been wondering since I got the G2. I've noticed that no matter what rom I use, the total memory in settings>about phone never shows up more than 400mb. I can't be sure of the exact amount for all the roms I've tried in the past, but I remember thinking it peculiar, although thinking about the internal memory and the fact that it was advertised as 4gb and only registers as 1.2gb, I was thinking maybe this is a similar thing?
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Gwanatu said:
I tried searching for this one and couldn't come up with any good answers on here, but it's something that I've been wondering since I got the G2. I've noticed that no matter what rom I use, the total memory in settings>about phone never shows up more than 400mb. I can't be sure of the exact amount for all the roms I've tried in the past, but I remember thinking it peculiar, although thinking about the internal memory and the fact that it was advertised as 4gb and only registers as 1.2gb, I was thinking maybe this is a similar thing?
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Get a better phone, this is normal.
Get a good one damnit
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The rest is used up by the operating system.
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Normal. My mt4g never shows more than 500mb after a fresh reboot.
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Normal. My mt4g never shows more than 500mb after a fresh reboot.
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That's normal to..
Look at this example
You buy a computer for 400 and in order to play crysis you need to have 2000 total dollars.
The 400 is for the computer, 50 of that is for crysis and the remaining 1550 is used to increase your computers everything just to freaking play that graphic hog game..
Okay better example
You eat a twinkie, it looks good at first, the commercial urges you to buy it. Even the box makes it look good, but once you eat it you realize your stomach hurts and it was a waste of time buying something that is so fattening you wish you hadn't.. bloatware much?
Read the details here HTC Vision XDA wiki
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That's normal to..
Look at this example
You buy a computer for 400 and in order to play crysis you need to have 2000 total dollars.
The 400 is for the computer, 50 of that is for crysis and the remaining 1550 is used to increase your computers everything just to freaking play that graphic hog game..
Okay better example
You eat a twinkie, it looks good at first, the commercial urges you to buy it. Even the box makes it look good, but once you eat it you realize your stomach hurts and it was a waste of time buying something that is so fattening you wish you hadn't.. bloatware much?
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what? how does this at all help anyone understand this.
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what? how does this at all help anyone understand this.
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i think he's just saying that the OS is using up the other resources
compare it with a sony PSP.. since it doesn't run a lot of programs in the background, it can play graphics intensive games with such low clocked cpu and less ram compared to mobile phones
BTW i know you are talking about the physical memory but just wanted to bring it out there
you can check the link given by Innocent Devil and check the "The Missing 2GB" part. it explains it there
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BTW i know you are talking about the physical memory but just wanted to bring it out there
you can check the link given by Innocent Devil and check the "The Missing 2GB" part. it explains it there
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This has *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING* to do with the "missing 2GB".
The question is about RAM, not storage.
Most relevant example;
You buy a new computer with an integrated video adapter. You go into the BIOS configuration program and it has an option to change the amount of RAM being allocated to the GPU -- 64 MB, 128 MB, 256 MB, or 512 MB. You have 4 GB total and set the GPU to 512 MB. When you boot into your operating system, you only see 3.5 GB. Where is the missing 0.5 GB? Its allocated to the GPU.
In addition to allocating a whole bunch to the GPU, these phones are actually TWO COMPUTERS (with two separate CPUs) that run two different operating systems concurrently. The first one is the RADIO system, responsible for messing with the wireless. The second one is the APPLICATION system, which runs the user operating system and interface (Android). They share a common pool of RAM, so some of it is allocated to the RADIO, some is allocated to the GPU (and other media components), and only what remains is available to Android.
Thanks for those of you that gave me good answers! This clears things right up!
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This has *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING* to do with the "missing 2GB".
The question is about RAM, not storage.
Most relevant example;
You buy a new computer with an integrated video adapter. You go into the BIOS configuration program and it has an option to change the amount of RAM being allocated to the GPU -- 64 MB, 128 MB, 256 MB, or 512 MB. You have 4 GB total and set the GPU to 512 MB. When you boot into your operating system, you only see 3.5 GB. Where is the missing 0.5 GB? Its allocated to the GPU.
In addition to allocating a whole bunch to the GPU, these phones are actually TWO COMPUTERS (with two separate CPUs) that run two different operating systems concurrently. The first one is the RADIO system, responsible for messing with the wireless. The second one is the APPLICATION system, which runs the user operating system and interface (Android). They share a common pool of RAM, so some of it is allocated to the RADIO, some is allocated to the GPU (and other media components), and only what remains is available to Android.
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Very interesting, didn't know about the dual OS thing. Makes sense though, and I figured that was the case but just wanted a sure fire answer. Thanks a lot!!
dhkr234 said:
This has *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING* to do with the "missing 2GB".
The question is about RAM, not storage.
oopsie you're right.. i guess the PSP comparison is the one applicable then haha
he's absolutely right, the other ram is for the OS itself and the rest is for your other apps. this makes the phone silky smooth when running tasks unlike my touch pro 2 before, which has a very low ram plus all the "memory leakage" but it still has the best keyboard
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According to the specs the phone comes with 576mb of ram, yet when I got my new phone it only had 140mb available, which seems to me that you lose around 75% of the memory advertised before you actually get the phone.
Anyone know what is using up all this memory
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According to the specs the phone comes with 576mb of ram, yet when I got my new phone it only had 140mb available, which seems to me that you lose around 75% of the memory advertised before you actually get the phone.
Anyone know what is using up all this memory
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Android is using it. It doesn't RUN from ROM, no modern OS does that. ROM is merely where it's stored, it run's in RAM.
thanks for the response, i understand it doesn't run from ROM but just couldn't believe that you lose 75% of the ram.
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thanks for the response, i understand it doesn't run from ROM but just couldn't believe that you lose 75% of the ram.
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You don't lose 75% of anything, it's still there. You're using 75% of it!. A phone that uses 0% of it's RAM would be a real-fancy paper weight after all.
If you try to open an app and you don't have enough RAM to run it Android will close activities and apps until there is enough. Any half way decent modern OS acts this way.
75% usage is fine and normal, don't worry about.
Perhaps your phone is developing Alzheimer's?
Actually you guys are confusing a lot here!
The 140MB that are available are ROM memory. The rest of the 512MB is used by the system and Sense etc.
That's not much available, since apps can only be installed into those 140MB.
Of the 576MB RAM, the system also uses some of it. But there's more than 140MB available.
it is indeed the rom, however, being that a massive majority of android apps are less than 1.5 mb in size, and if programmed properly use the SD card for storage means, the likelyhood of most people ever having a problem is minute.
I've read people on these forums with 70 odd apps on their desire and they have no issues whatsoever.
it really is not an issue.
after upgrading from the G1 with only 70mb-80mb available for installing apps unless you used the sdcard for storage was just a shock to only see 140mb available on the desire.
Agreed, it definitely is a problem if you install an app like Google Earth (22meg) and a few large games you will soon run out. On my G1 with apps2sd I had over 200meg of apps installed.
Meh, and HTC put 8GB of internal memory in the Droid Incredible (basicly the US desire), really don't understand why they don't put some internal storage in all of these devices..
Guys is there a tool where I could see how many rom and ram memory is available to install apps.
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it is indeed the rom, however, being that a massive majority of android apps are less than 1.5 mb in size, and if programmed properly use the SD card for storage means, the likelyhood of most people ever having a problem is minute.
I've read people on these forums with 70 odd apps on their desire and they have no issues whatsoever.
it really is not an issue.
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I'd have to disagree with you I'm afraid - it really is an issue.
My Desire has about 80 apps installed, including Google Earth, Navigon satnav, and about 5 games. I have literally less than 10mb of ROM space left - not even enough for another game.
The space supplied on the ROM for apps is pathetic, and the sooner the Desire gets rooted (to enable apps2sd) the better.
EDIT: I've just realised I've repeated what other people said, and also may have come off like a douche - no offence intended!
Adding SD Storage does not help!
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Meh, and HTC put 8GB of internal memory in the Droid Incredible (basicly the US desire), really don't understand why they don't put some internal storage in all of these devices..
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When you think about it, this will make the new HTC Incredible (coming this year) with 8GB on board a big seller for HTC, do feel a little bit let down by HTC on this
I have to admit up until today when I got an "out of space" message I assumed apps were going on the SD Card, I'm really gutted about this. But in my heart I knew at some point went rooting was possible I would do it anyway.
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When you think about it, this will make the new HTC Incredible (coming this year) with 8GB on board a big seller for HTC, do feel a little bit let down by HTC on this
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Afaik the 8GB onboard is as storage, not as ROM. So if android is still like today (only allowed application to be installed in ROM) those 8 GB can't be used as well. The main reason of this limitation is to prevent the piracy, but I read somewhere that there is a plan to add a function to store the encrypted application in the external storage. Hopefully that can be realized soon.
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EDIT: I've just realised I've repeated what other people said, and also may have come off like a douche - no offence intended!
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No worries. I probably sound like a douche most of the time, but after doing my job for as long as i have, i no longer really care. but no offence intended from my end either. i may be a grumpy sod, but i'm not an a-hole.
anyhoo, most people will get nowhere near 80 apps.
I've been on android since the magic and got nowhere near that yet. most people won't. but yeah, lets hope either HTC start putting more memory in the phones, or google just add pss2sd capability as standard.
either would solve this for those few people that it does effect.
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Meh, and HTC put 8GB of internal memory in the Droid Incredible (basicly the US desire), really don't understand why they don't put some internal storage in all of these devices..
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but u cant use them as system memory so its like a 8gb SD
Yeah, perhaps I'm spoilt from having apps2sd on my Dream - I've got used to installing whatever the hell I like, and leaving it there!
Let's hope Paul from MoDaCo finishes rooting/getting write access to the system partition soon. Or indeed, any other dev who can manage it
How do you guys get so many apps? I have installed around 20 apps and it's telling me I'm running low on space.......quite annoying. Having to remove apps to instal others.
boge said:
Afaik the 8GB onboard is as storage, not as ROM. So if android is still like today (only allowed application to be installed in ROM) those 8 GB can't be used as well. The main reason of this limitation is to prevent the piracy, but I read somewhere that there is a plan to add a function to store the encrypted application in the external storage. Hopefully that can be realized soon.
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LOL that was pretty much what I wrote originally & thought I was talking nonsense so I edited the post, should have left it I guess
For me its not the number of apps its that some are large. Anyone have copilot installed, im thinking of getting it but im worried the maps are going to fill the memory up & leave me room for no other apps! The Desire is a cutting edge device & we just shouldn't have to contend with this issue, Heck I never had this with Windows Mobile. Then again I never had any apps for Windows Mobile
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How do you guys get so many apps? I have installed around 20 apps and it's telling me I'm running low on space.......quite annoying. Having to remove apps to instal others.
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It's not only the issue with the number apps you can install. This issue is also limiting developers. There are a couple of reasons iPhone applications/games are usualy higher quality then the android counterparts. Storage problems is one of those issues sadly.
I noticed my phone has only 477 MB of RAM, should not be 512?
I'm on CM7.2 12 feb nightly.
nothings ever a s much as it's quoted ^^
my SD for example is suppose to be 8GB... but it says 7.4GB
& why are chip packets only a third full!? :FFS:
Bleak3993 said:
I noticed my phone has only 477 MB of RAM, should not be 512?
I'm on CM7.2 12 feb nightly.
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Some part of the ram is occupied by the Android Operating System..
so obviously it shows less than the actual RAM...
size is bluff
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nothings ever a s much as it's quoted ^^
my SD for example is suppose to be 8GB... but it says 7.4GB
& why are chip packets only a third full!? :FFS:
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this size difference is coz companies bluff with MB & GB values..while we consider 1M=1024K, 1K=1024 for digital devices, companies calculate with 1M=1000K, 1K=1000 units
ultimately when u have 8GB SD card you consider 8*1024*1024*1024 Bytes but actually its 8*1000*1000*1000 Bytes = 8000000000 Bytes
thus you get (((8000000000)/1024)/1024)/1024) = 7.45 GB
I think that some RAM is taken by the graphics chip, just like all the integrated graphics chips do when they don't have their own RAM
Just my thought, although I could totally be the one who's wrong
Cheers, you buddies
niksy+ said:
I think that some RAM is taken by the graphics chip, just like all the integrated graphics chips do when they don't have their own RAM
Just my thought, although I could totally be the one who's wrong
Cheers, you buddies
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My thoughts precisely..
niksy+ said:
I think that some RAM is taken by the graphics chip, just like all the integrated graphics chips do when they don't have their own RAM
Just my thought, although I could totally be the one who's wrong
Cheers, you buddies
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if you have GPU (defy has a powervx) don't needs memory from RAM.... is taken by OS (android).
i understand, thanks you, but some users post screenshots of they system info, and the ram shows exactly 512, the total ram obviously, not the used one.
Hi All
after upgarde from GB to JB (either LEAK / Official), JB seemed Slow. whether to change the partitions on a flash PIT file MB2 / 4 can increase the RAM capacity in JB.
I found a thread where we can change it by using the application PIT "PIT_Magic".
but I do not understand how its use. if anyone can to using it please share...
Thanks
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rozyid said:
Hi All
after upgarde from GB to JB (either LEAK / Official), JB seemed Slow. whether to change the partitions on a flash PIT file MB2 / 4 can increase the RAM capacity in JB.
I found a thread where we can change it by using the application PIT "PIT_Magic".
but I do not understand how its use. if anyone can to using it please share...
Thanks
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You cant do that!there is about 140MB unused ram in stock firmware. in order to increase ram and use full of it ,you sould have uncompiled kernel source and know android kernel programming and change it.
but always you can change your phone partition sizes through PIT Magic while falshing.
kernel source
sorset said:
You cant do that!there is about 140MB unused ram in stock firmware. in order to increase ram and use full of it ,you sould have uncompiled kernel source and know android kernel programming and change it.
but always you can change your phone partition sizes through PIT Magic while falshing.
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Hi Sorset
maybe we can help to hafidzduddin to edit the kernel in order to read that we change the RAM to 1 GB .. ..
From where you flashing JB? From GB or JB XXMB4?
edit PIT to get 1gb RAM
ddikodroid said:
From where you flashing JB? From GB or JB XXMB4?
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from JB MB4
i just Edit PIT FILE on MB4 to get RAM 1 GB, but I have not dared to try it..
I am still gathering information about the RAM partition address....
1 GB? ~768MB is enough for me. Though i really think that it can't go over 700+MB.
1 Gb? WTF?
Our device doesn't have true ram? I thought that we have some sort of LDDR2 ram and it's quite different from it's flash NAND.
I think you can't go over installed 768 mb and you can't even reach this number because gpu also use the same ram.
I hope Samsung didn't put the ram on storage because it will wear out like hell. NAND it's not fast, not even prone to multiple write cycles.
Even if you're successful in increasing you ram, you will make something like swap partition on linux. But I highly doubt it will work.
Swap system is not used on mobile devices because NAND wears up too fast.
According to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35222874&postcount=14
...we do not have LDDR2. There is only 4GB chip named UME300 (IC-NAND Flash Memory, 4 GB, SDIN5D2-4G-944L, BGA, P/N: 1107-002091)
It may be true regarding memory size of ACE 2:
system 1,2 + USB 1,1 + 0,768 + spare for dead cells = 4GB
SIII Mini for example have 1GB RAM and I/O and RAM operations are much much faster. Also there are no 768MB LDDR2 chips on market. Using emmc as low speed LDDR2 substitute is quite common in Samsung devices.
arroyo said:
According to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35222874&postcount=14
...we do not have LDDR2. There is only 4GB chip named UME300 (IC-NAND Flash Memory, 4 GB, SDIN5D2-4G-944L, BGA, P/N: 1107-002091)
It may be true regarding memory size of ACE 2:
system 1,2 + USB 1,1 + 0,768 + spare for dead cells = 4GB
SIII Mini for example have 1GB RAM and I/O and RAM operations are much much faster. Also there are no 768MB LDDR2 chips on market. Using emmc as low speed LDDR2 substitute is quite common in Samsung devices.
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I thought this was a joke at first when rozyid said we can increase our RAM
so it was 601MB system + 302MB cache + 1,2GB data + 1,1GB usb = ~3,2GB
It will make sense if the remaining is our "RAM"
if somehow someone able to increase this by resizing other partition (/cache maybe?) it would be really nice
And btw, what is the function of /cache? When I checked it using link2sd it wasn't used
But hey, didn't we used another partition /preload in JB? If I'm not wrong it was about 200MB, right? So then it be more than 4GB if we add it to previous calculation
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[Noob] For example wont decreasing the RAM on the device increase the "ram" allocated to the GPU thus increasing our gaming performance in any way?
S3 mini RAM score is only 10% faster in antutu, either S3 mini doesn't have true RAM or our device has one.
I think you've added up incorrectly here. 4GB is usually 3.7gb total.
Also, if you looked in the PDF's from one of the links above, you would notice we do in fact have LP-DDR2 ram...
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According to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35222874&postcount=14
...we do not have LDDR2. There is only 4GB chip named UME300 (IC-NAND Flash Memory, 4 GB, SDIN5D2-4G-944L, BGA, P/N: 1107-002091)
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I was very confused when you wrote this. It's absolute non-sense to use NAND as RAM. It will wear in only one month.
They should have at least the most creepy ram, cache or something else that it can be re-writable.
You can have smooth gui with no RAM installed. It's impossible. You can't draw 20000 triangles per frame and having decent framerates without having a ram that it's capable of speed near 1 Gb/s ...
Also usually memory came in banks, 256 Mb banks were usual in the past, so puting 3 banks can give you 768 MB.
@Jamielawther
I would love that fact to be truth, but this diagram is not hardware schematic. It is logical diagram how things push data between elements. Move couple pages further and try to find element for LP-DDR2 on PCB. I did not found one. Also in document 05-GT-I8160-EPLIS-11.pdf you have the list of electrical parts. I did not found SEC Code for anything that could be LP-DDR2.
@veaceslaw
Take a look at PCB in 08-GT-I8160-TSHOO-7.pdf. There are no 3 ram chips there. In fact there is only one 4GB. If they used emmc as a RAM, it won't die in one month. Probably it last for 2 years or more ... after warranty it may die.
In my PC, SSD disk is used as TEMP and cache memory for last 2 years. Still running flawlessly. Every ROM chip has some space left for spare blocks to be used as a replacement for died blocks.
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@veaceslav
Take a look at PCB in 08-GT-I8160-TSHOO-7.pdf. There are no 3 ram chips there. In fact there is only one 4GB. If they used emmc as a RAM, it won't die in one month. Probably it last for 2 years or more ... after warranty it may die.
In my PC, SSD disk is used as TEMP and cache memory for last 2 years. Still running flawlessly. Every ROM chip has some space left for spare blocks to be used as a replacement for died blocks.
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Can you find the U8500 chip?
veaceslav said:
Can you find the U8500 chip?
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UCP300
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UCP300
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http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/archive/t-1363562.html
UCP 300 is RF chip and I don't know what rf is, but it's in GT i9100 and I don't think i9100 have Novathor
if you do it guys it would be awesome
because all good games with best graphics lags
i even dont want to get back to this ugly outdated gingerbread
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@Jamielawther
I would love that fact to be truth, but this diagram is not hardware schematic. It is logical diagram how things push data between elements. Move couple pages further and try to find element for LP-DDR2 on PCB. I did not found one. Also in document 05-GT-I8160-EPLIS-11.pdf you have the list of electrical parts. I did not found SEC Code for anything that could be LP-DDR2.
@veaceslaw
Take a look at PCB in 08-GT-I8160-TSHOO-7.pdf. There are no 3 ram chips there. In fact there is only one 4GB. If they used emmc as a RAM, it won't die in one month. Probably it last for 2 years or more ... after warranty it may die.
In my PC, SSD disk is used as TEMP and cache memory for last 2 years. Still running flawlessly. Every ROM chip has some space left for spare blocks to be used as a replacement for died blocks.
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Anyone bothered to look through the documentation?
If you check 08-GT-I8160-TSHOO-7.pdf on the first page you can see the block diagram and there you can see stated LP-DDR2.
Check the attached picture.
If same chip is being used as RAM, then what is the benefit of moving data from on part of same memory to another? Won't that reduce io speed, cos I thought the purpose of RAM is to speed up data access for CPU from normally slower data storage eg. Hard drive.
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Hey guys!
I noticed in the specifications of this phone, it claims to have 0.50gb of RAM (512mb) However all your kernels are around 370 of under?
Is this mistake in the specifications or are you lowering Ram for some strange reason unknown to me?
I'm using liquid smooth build#2 at the moment, but i'm only getting around 99mb free Ram.. I don't know why but it seems the Phone has less Ram then i initially thought.. However, i don't have any scripts going at the moment, i don't need battery, so any " and it's good on battery " will be respectively ignored.
I have looked around but not really found a decent enough set up for this phone yet.. Can someone please recommend me a kernel for 4.2.2 which is fast, and responsive, but also one with good Ram?
And can someone recommend some scripts worth using with this Phone? Again, don't go on about battery or SD life or phone life, idc about it, it's a spare phone..
Thanks in advance guys, could you provide me with links as well if it's not too much trouble? I prefer being directed straight to the point so i don't end up using the wrong Kernel/script..
Edit1: I'm not changing Rom. At all. unless you get an updated Carbon or 4.3.
Penguin450 said:
Hey guys!
I noticed in the specifications of this phone, it claims to have 0.50gb of RAM (512mb) However all your kernels are around 370 of under?
Is this mistake in the specifications or are you lowering Ram for some strange reason unknown to me?
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Seems noone is willing to reply, but this probably because some searching and logical thinking would answer your questions. So since you are not willing to do it yourself others don´t mind replying to you.
So well I don´t use any scripts but regarding RAM size think about it. If you buy a PC with lets say 2GB installed RAM. Will you get also 2GB free ram by running an Operating System on it?
honeyx said:
Seems noone is willing to reply, but this probably because some searching and logical thinking would answer your questions. So since you are not willing to do it yourself others don´t mind replying to you.
So well I don´t use any scripts but regarding RAM size think about it. If you buy a PC with lets say 2GB installed RAM. Will you get also 2GB free ram by running an Operating System on it?
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If you were to purchase 2gb of ram likelyhood is you will recieve 1.59+- usable Ram, free Ram would be totally different, however the way it was presented, and the way i portrayed it was thet the Ramdisk of the kernel was at 370+-, rather then 512.. I'm using a Desire C, which is running CM10 with 300mb free ram, with a 512mb ram disk, whereas with hurtskys kernel 3.0.x i get 99mb free? on 4.2.2 on my golfu i got 270mb free ram, and that was a Rom of 250mb+ and it's only at 767mhz.. yet seems smoother then the SGW? :s On paper it should be the other way around..
dun think u should worry about free ram.
android is based on linux, linux memory concept is different from other OS.
it something like " free memory is waste memory".
memory is always filled and hold so tat it wont waste time to reload.
if need more memory, system will free memory for other usage.
maybe this will help explain better, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
Penguin450 said:
If you were to purchase 2gb of ram likelyhood is you will recieve 1.59+- usable Ram, free Ram would be totally different, however the way it was presented, and the way i portrayed it was thet the Ramdisk of the kernel was at 370+-, rather then 512.. I'm using a Desire C, which is running CM10 with 300mb free ram, with a 512mb ram disk, whereas with hurtskys kernel 3.0.x i get 99mb free? on 4.2.2 on my golfu i got 270mb free ram, and that was a Rom of 250mb+ and it's only at 767mhz.. yet seems smoother then the SGW? :s On paper it should be the other way around..
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You should first read what a ramdisk is. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ramdisk
The 270+MB in hurtskys or my kernel is the real RAM aviable. The rest is reserved for the ROM, camera, drivers and processes to work correctly.
how many mb left after you clear the RAM?
thanks
no one knows?
i just dont want to have a flagship with free ram 500mb only like S6 edge
You do know that free ram isn't a factor on performance with Android right? Also get rid of your bloat. My L90 has almost 400 free all the time and i have a gig of ram.
xantanion said:
You do know that free ram isn't a factor on performance with Android right? Also get rid of your bloat. My L90 has almost 400 free all the time and i have a gig of ram.
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I know
But my xiaomi redmi 1s has 400mb free ram and my super expensive S6 EDGE only has 500mb left after I clear the RAM
And no ... bloatware removal and everything don't help
It makes my Chrome browser reload reload reload reload reload the page over and over and over and over again
Wasting my mobile data plan
All i want to know is how much the free ram on the G4
Hope this helps!
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Hope this helps!
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many thanks!!
My H815 had about 1.4GB free after cleaning open apps pretty much after just starting it up and not installing much.
chobits said:
how many mb left after you clear the RAM?
thanks
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free ram is wasted ram, keep this in mind if you are looking for best performance and not just for a good illusionary feeling to have a lot of capacity in reserve
xantanion said:
You do know that free ram isn't a factor on performance with Android right? Also get rid of your bloat. My L90 has almost 400 free all the time and i have a gig of ram.
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Wait what?
First you tell him RAM no matter for performance - which is utter nonsense & one simple bit of proof on that is the fact since day 1 of the first Droid phone - 2009 - we have gone from 256 to 512 to 1gb to 2gb to 3gb & some are about to push 4gb RAM. If it's not a performance benefit why is that 1 spec that has & does continued to grow? Because it SERIOUSLY matters for performance.
But then you contradict yourself by telling him to clear bloat... but if RAM does not matter why advise cleaning out bloatware?
Ps - do some research on the S6 memory leak... RAM matters & phones with 1gb RAM should be outlawed
Oh I'm sorry perhaps I should have just done this http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Free ram does not matter as I was saying. if your phone is laggy the main reason for this will be the BLOAT that is installed by your carrier or the os itself. Ram works differently in android than it does on windows and other operating systems. so as I said FREE RAM. doesn't matter as long as you have enough on it for whatever programs you are running. 1 gig works just fine for everything I do. Then again I don't game on my phone, I do that on a computer or a console.
xantanion said:
Oh I'm sorry perhaps I should have just done this http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Free ram does not matter as I was saying. if your phone is laggy the main reason for this will be the BLOAT that is installed by your carrier or the os itself. Ram works differently in android than it does on windows and other operating systems. so as I said FREE RAM. doesn't matter as long as you have enough on it for whatever programs you are running. 1 gig works just fine for everything I do. Then again I don't game on my phone, I do that on a computer or a console.
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1. did you actually just link to a 2011 article?
2. you did not answer my question as to why RAM numbers keep going up yearly and have since the first Droid? If it is of no value, why add cost by adding more? Of all the things a phone maker can and does do, why keep adding RAM and yet, for example, drop the MicroSD?
3. And, if bloat removal is the answer.. why? I will tell you why.. they are eating RAM. If it is not that, then why worry about bloat? Of course, you can worry about bloat if you are low on storage, but assume storage is fine (you have 20 of 32gb free for example). Ok, remove bloat and then what? How did it benefit you? It benefitted you by not having apps using RAM - simply put. Which pretty much is saying performance is impacted by bloat which impacts available RAM which impacts performance so cut out your bloatware and improve performance and... free up more RAM.
ps - I don't game either, I'll take more RAM any day.
Ok I have an LG G4 ATT. Fresh factory reset. All bloatware disabled or removed if able. Nothing installed at all yet. OS updated to current release. Straight simple stock phone. No accounts set for anything. phone uses 2.7g of RAM available. Phone turned on with brand new battery dies at 7% in 10min. 3batterys all new tested. Issue is the excessive amount of RAM being used. Android os alone shouldn't kill a phone. This is point blank fact. Phone stated battery life is trashed and is pointless of even mentioning if the RAM issue doesn't matter. Bottom line. Theirs a issue. Developers or manufacturers of these phones needs to quit worrying about making all this money just by adding more RAM. RAM is used in same way as a PC. (Random Access memory) not (ready available memory)
And just a say to these companies making new phones. Make the phones for the people that's buying them not to add money to ur pockets. A non removable battery? Why even think that will make things better? Batteries go bad. We all know this. Removing the micro SD slots. Blocking us from using the SD as a write disk. Oh i forgot. Companies making these phone want only our money. Got ya. They know we have to either buy a new phone when that battery goes bad, u have to buy this 32gb or 64gb or 128gb phone at retarded added costs for more space. Stop thinking ur helping the world by making sopused better phones. Start listening to the buyers and what we want. Ur likely to actually make better devices and make more money in the long run.
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