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Hey guys I have a question for you users of the GN... have any of you went from a RAZR to it? How does everything work? I know it has ICS and I am dying to get it on my RAZR, but I was just wondering if you guys can help me decide on which phone to either keep or if i should get the GN?
I own both, I prefer the gnex, much much better development support, and IMO more fun to use.
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can you elaborate? I'm an android noob (iPhone convert) and never have rooted, etc on my android phones...
The GNex is much more hacker friendly which allows you to work with the OS of the phone. Motorola has a reputation of locking their phones down like fort knox so you cant mess with the internals.
So what are some good things about like rooting and roms? Like I said.. NOOB
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Droid Razr = LAG LAG LAG!
GNexus = 0 Lag, Super smooth and very snappy
There are soooo many comparisons of these two phones on the internets.
What's the best things about rooting?
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matesims23 said:
What's the best things about rooting?
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Google search the benefits of rooting.
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matesims23 said:
What's the best things about rooting?
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having "administrator" access to the phone ...
flashing custom roms with more software development and features
root apps such as LBE privacy guard (must have for me)
fun
doing anything you want with the phone, you are only limited by your knowledge or lack there of
One way to look at it is when Google builds Android they build it for the Nexus models. Then they release the code, the other manufactures then modify the code to work with their hardware.
Now since you are on the Verizon version they modify google's code for their network so you would not have the 100% pure code, only about 98%. It would be purer than Motorola's build.
Also the Razor is a closed platform hardware wise. This is a really good video about the Razor. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/droid-razr-unboxed-the-xda-way-xda-tv/
I think I'm gonna try the nexus
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can you elaborate? I'm an android noob (iPhone convert) and never have rooted, etc on my android phones...
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Rooting (completely different from jail-breaking), allows the user to run super user commands on their cell phone. Super user commands and apps generally have much more access to system files, allowing for overclocking (if the kernel supports it), free wifi tethering, and so on. Unlocking the bootloader allows for flashing custom ROMs on the device. Flashing can be done on a locked device, but no kernels (hence no overclocking) can be flashed. This also causes custom ROMs without their own kernel to generally be less stable than those for an unlocked bootloader device. Rooting is necessary for any Android power user, though a bootloader unlock may not always be necessary. Custom kernels often provide massive boosts to performance and add new features, so it is strongly recommended.
Thanks that helps a ton!!! That's the answer I was needing
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What's the best things about rooting?
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Rooting gives you admin access to your phone so you can do whatever you want. We'd never buy a computer without admin access, should be same on a phone.
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Rooting gives you admin access to your phone so you can do whatever you want. We'd never buy a computer without admin access, should be same on a phone.
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I understand now ... been doing a ton of reading about roms and such
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I have both as of this minute and I will sell one of them soon. I prefer the gnex but damn does it poor signal compared to my razor.
I don't even have service on my gnex in areas that I have 2 bars on my razor.
I just flashed leaked radios on my gnex and it didn't help. I only use 3g as no 4g at home yet.
I will prob keep the gnex though and hope for a signal fix cause the gnex is faster and just a nicer phone IMO.
...radios? your on the verizon nexus right? arent the leaked radios just for the sprint phones?
The Nexus line is Google's own idea of what an Android device should be; they are the ONLY handsets that are supported directly by Google. Consequently, Nexus phones have an Apple-like software support cycle (say what you want about Apple, the 3GS got iOS 5 before my Droid Charge even got Gingerbread) and huge dev support. Keep in mind that a Nexus phone is never designed to push the bleeding edge; it may have some neat new features, but they're never designed to be powerhouses (some say the N1 was, but IMO it was just in the right place at the right time). A Nexus device is the bone stock Android experience, an exemplar to the rest of the manufacturers on just what an Android device should be.
To summarize:
1.) The absolute best official software support you can get in the Android world, and among the best 3rd party dev support. While some devices released this year will be lucky to get ICS and/or Jelly Bean, you can pretty much rest assured that the GNex will go well into Key Lime Pie officially.
2.) Internal hardware chosen for STABILITY and EFFICIENCY, rather than bleeding edge, untested (and usually buggy) performance. That said, while it isn't cutting edge, the GNex has very solid hardware, and performance is always snappy and smooth.
3.) Usually has some neat perks that most other phones don't have. In the Gnex's case, it's the BEAUTIFUL 720p AMOLED+ display, NFC support, the ultra-fast camera, and of course Ice Cream Sandwich.
After using a plethora of other non-Nexus Android devices, I got absolutely fed up with the apathy that the manufacturers and carriers have toward updating their handsets. The last straw was, as I mentioned, my Droid Charge. Even though Verizon considered it the flagship 4G LTE phone well into last September, it was released with an out-of-date OS to begin with (Froyo; GB had been out for well over half a year already). It didn't get GB until after it had been replaced as a flagship phone, and then was (and remains) ineligible for an update to ICS even though ICS was released only six months after the Charge was released! What the hell is that!?
Never again. Nexus or bust. Trust me, you'll be happy with the GNex.
This helps me a ton.. trying to trade now
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I have my upgrade today and I am deciding between these two. Im leaning toward the Ion
Most reviewers knock the Ion for the S3 processor and GIngerbread
While The S3 can't be dealt with, I KNOW ICS is already certified and coming
One main thing that concerns me is the camera: Is there a big difference between the two? Big enough to dump the S4 processor in the Atrix for the S3 in the ion?
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I have my upgrade today and I am deciding between these two. Im leaning toward the Ion
Most reviewers knock the Ion for the S3 processor and GIngerbread
While The S3 can't be dealt with, I KNOW ICS is already certified and coming
One main thing that concerns me is the camera: Is there a big difference between the two? Big enough to dump the S4 processor in the Atrix for the S3 in the ion?
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camera on atrix is nowhere near the ION , real world s3 vs s4 is not a huge difference in performance. ICS makes that even less.
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camera on atrix is nowhere near the ION , real world s3 vs s4 is not a huge difference in performance. ICS makes that even less.
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Just one more thing to add to this the Atrix HD doesn't have a FM radio and doesn't have NFC either.
The AtrixHD also only has half the built-in storage.
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I like UI on Sony more. I had the old Atrix and wouldn't want new one. Motorola was slow with updates as well. But Atrix may have better dev community
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This comming from an Atrix HD owner.
There is basicly no Dev community except for me and two others.
If you want a phone you can flash, root and hack then stick with Sony, HTC One X, or SGS3.
Honestly the HD bootloader will never be unlocked. I came from an Atrix 2 and they still have yet to see ICS.
They have root, but its useless cause we cant flash firmwares or kernels.
The Atrix HD has no root. Motorola spent the time to eliminate EVERY exploit. Signature checks are so anal that if you tryed to flash over a root with recovery, you'd at best stick your phone in a bootloop and the battery cannot be removed.
The only good thing is that the phone is fast and it has ICS and it's pretty stock looking.
Sony has way more features, a better dev community.
At the cost of the s3 (even though its as good as the s4, the s4 will outperform with future developments and has less battery draw)
Honestly, stick with the Sony.
at first I hated the Atrix HD, but its teaching me a lot about the Android operating system. I can root just about any ICS phone unless its a Motorola Atrix HD
another thing to hate about the Atrix HD was that they removed Webtop OS so the phone can no longer be used with any of the Lapdocks. Which sucked for me since I had one. Sold it to a friend for $60 bucks.
Sony. Stick with it.
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Sony. Stick with it.
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I think this post helped me make my decision.
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I like UI on Sony more. I had the old Atrix and wouldn't want new one. Motorola was slow with updates as well. But Atrix may have better dev community
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Totally agree. I like Timescape more than what Motorola did with Blur.
I figure this is the best place to ask considering you guys have the Ion already.
I currently have an Xperia S and will be getting an S2 soon aswell( just cause I don't like the look of the S3), but is it worth me getting rid of my SXS and getting this device instead?
I'm dubious whether to or not because I've had my phone right from when it came out and seeing as it was meant to be a flagship handset, it didn't live up to that and had nothing but problems. Mainly problems with tint, laggy and battery life. Are these problems present on the Ion?
How has the phone been for you lot so far? Any real plus points or big negatives?
Any feedback about this device from yous would be great in helping me.
Thanks in advance!
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The ion is a really nice phone. I haven't had any lagging issues and the battery life has been better than I expected. The screen is gorgeous and everything works well. I know the ion isn't that much different from the S, but you'd have LTE, which is a good selling point. This phone flies on AT&T LTE.
It's good that it hasn't had any lagging issues yet, so at least that's an improvement.
The main thing I'm not liking about the Ion though, is that it's only running GB at the moment. That's disgraceful really, especially considering the lower end models from 2011 have got official ICS and unofficial JB. That's my main draw back to be honest.
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I figure this is the best place to ask considering you guys have the Ion already.
I currently have an Xperia S and will be getting an S2 soon aswell( just cause I don't like the look of the S3), but is it worth me getting rid of my SXS and getting this device instead?
I'm dubious whether to or not because I've had my phone right from when it came out and seeing as it was meant to be a flagship handset, it didn't live up to that and had nothing but problems. Mainly problems with tint, laggy and battery life. Are these problems present on the Ion?
How has the phone been for you lot so far? Any real plus points or big negatives?
Any feedback about this device from yous would be great in helping me.
Thanks in advance!
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I have the ion, Xperia S and Xperia P. The ion is a great device. Big beautiful screen, fast and smooth OS and the LTE is screaming fast. Camera is good as are most Sony cameras. No issues with tint like the Xperia S and I haven't experienced any lag on any of these phones (save for the general slowdown of ICS on the Xperia S compared to GB) Battery life isn't the greatest for me, but then again with the ion I find myself using it more because of its screen size. Don't use my ipad to look stuff up as much since I got the ion.
The HDMI out on all these new Xperias is outstanding and with a livedock or the ion dock you can turn the device into a gaming console or mini computer. The 16gb built in plus the ability to add a microSD card is great.
I don't consider it coming with GB a downside because Sony's GB is incredibly smooth and stable. These phones fly with their build of GB. ICS is coming soon (within the next three months maybe as soon as 2-3 weeks) and the devs at Sony are working to get JB out for these phones. (I have a friend that works at Sony and I know this for a fact, they really want to get JB out asap.)
There isn't much development on the ion right now but hopefully that will change soon. The device is still new. If you like Sony phones I think its a can't miss especially because of the LTE.
Out of the devices I have I tend to use the Xperia P and ion the most then Xperia S then Lumia 900. (Yes I do switch between all of them regularly) The P is a better version of the S IMHO and the ion is just a great big screen device.
On a complete contrast to you, I've found my Xperia S to be running a lot smoother on ICS and with only minor lag rarely, whereas I had a lot of lag on GB. I seem to have had that experience the exact opposite to everyone else I've spoken to who has this phone. Regarding battery life, as long as it's better than Xperia S then I really don't mind. I'm a really heavy user so obviously I can't expect it to last a full day with my amount of usage.
The main thing with me is that my minds split pretty much 50/50.
From the reviews I've read, YouTube videos I've watched and even from reading here on XDA, it does sound like a great choice of phone. No matter what, it's gotta be a step up from Xperia S anyway
But, with it taking a maximum of a few months just to get the ICS update, by then the Xperia Mint should be coming out soon after (according to leaks) which will supposedly have ICS on there with JB update available right away. Does that not make the Ion redundant in reality?
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On a complete contrast to you, I've found my Xperia S to be running a lot smoother on ICS and with only minor lag rarely, whereas I had a lot of lag on GB. I seem to have had that experience the exact opposite to everyone else I've spoken to who has this phone. Regarding battery life, as long as it's better than Xperia S then I really don't mind. I'm a really heavy user so obviously I can't expect it to last a full day with my amount of usage.
The main thing with me is that my minds split pretty much 50/50.
From the reviews I've read, YouTube videos I've watched and even from reading here on XDA, it does sound like a great choice of phone. No matter what, it's gotta be a step up from Xperia S anyway
But, with it taking a maximum of a few months just to get the ICS update, by then the Xperia Mint should be coming out soon after (according to leaks) which will supposedly have ICS on there with JB update available right away. Does that not make the Ion redundant in reality?
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Doubt the mint will have JB right away. The mint should be out in the US on AT&T in October/November with ICS.
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Doubt the mint will have JB right away. The mint should be out in the US on AT&T in October/November with ICS.
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I doubt it either but if we're right and it hasn't, then it just shows that Sony isn't doing a lot for their reliability than they were as SE because realistically, by the end of this year/start of next year, quite a few of the high end phones will be running JB. Included in that list should be all the flagship phones, which the mint is supposed to be.
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I doubt it either but if we're right and it hasn't, then it just shows that Sony isn't doing a lot for their reliability than they were as SE because realistically, by the end of this year/start of next year, quite a few of the high end phones will be running JB. Included in that list should be all the flagship phones, which the mint is supposed to be.
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Given the track record of all the manufacturers and carriers I seriously doubt many phones will be running JB by Jan if any other than the Nexus devices especially here in the US. Maybe 2-3 other phones but I just don't see any more than that. Look how long ALL the manufacturers took for ICS. Yeah JB isn't as big an upgrade from ICS as it was for ICS from GB but I still don't see it happening. Sony has been the best so far with at least keeping their customers informed and even releasing betas.
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Given the track record of all the manufacturers and carriers I seriously doubt many phones will be running JB by Jan if any other than the Nexus devices especially here in the US. Maybe 2-3 other phones but I just don't see any more than that. Look how long ALL the manufacturers took for ICS. Yeah JB isn't as big an upgrade from ICS as it was for ICS from GB but I still don't see it happening. Sony has been the best so far with at least keeping their customers informed and even releasing betas.
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You really think Sony are the best as far as updates? Yeah they've kept customers informed as to releases, but only to a minimal extent. At least from what I've noticed. They generally just say "next update due for Q1" for example and won't release it until Q3 or 4.
I understand that they'd rather wait a bit longer and bring out a fully optimized version rather than release a buggy version sooner, but with each phone Sony are bringing out, they're falling further and further behind. In my opinion at least.
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Any other company pushed out ICS to their entire 2011 line? (I know the play didn't get it but is a niche phone) when you compare them to Motorola, htc, Samsung yeh I think Sony does the best with updates.
Hey everyone... Just wanted to thank you all for your knowledge, contributions, etc, on this phone/forum. I've decided to be rid of my Ion. You can still catch me in the LG L9 forums, and in the Nexus 7 forums. Hope to see some of you there. It's been fun!
Y u r selling ur ion??? Sony will release jb in 1 or 2 weeks...any way n'joy ur new phone...thanx for making petition thread...if att bootloader could be unlocked there would be a different community support to ion
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Cheers mate!
Good luck Mate. I agree. May be you can wait 1-2 weeks more just to see how the JB update goes.
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Since you have opened the thread, can you rename it like this-
"FAREWELL- Leaving XS/ACRO S/iON - Say bye here".
Then all the other users those who are planning to leave any of the device too, can post their message here.
It would be great if you can do.
It's not that I don't like this device, in fact, I love it. I switched back to T-Mobile. Truely unlimited data, superb customer service, etc etc. I'll be back to an Xperia device in the near future. Just had to do what I had to do at this current moment. You all enjoy!
got the nokia n9 two weeks ago, and i believe i made the right choice: super reliable, super innovative and convenient user experience, many interesting apps developed by nokia, awesome integration between apps, much better multitasking experience than any phone currently available, faster than any dual core (maybe quad core as well) android, and even easier to develop than most android devices. the amount of apps is definitely the weakness of n9 but it basically gets the job done quite well. back to xperia ion, it is definitely the most annoying phone i have ever owned in my life. if sony mobile is not going to improve its shi*ty software builds, then goodbye forever. will come back and take a look after jelly bean is available for the ion though. one more thing, in my opinion, if google isn't changing the whole coding language of android, it won't change its lagdroid nature. Java really shouldn't be used to develop operating systems. project butter brought triple buffering which, yes it makes android much smoother but, drains much more battery while being already battery hungry.
OP enjoy your new/other Device...
hello, I was considering renewing my mobile phone. I'm deciding among several with touchscreen and physical keyboard. However I have a few problems with decision since none of them are sold in my country -spain.
The options are mainly
-Samsung i927 Captivate Glide
-Samsung Galaxy Stratosphere II I41
-Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G T699
-Sony Ericsson Xperia Pro
-Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro
I made a lot of questions in this forum a time ago about the captivate glide. And even when in the end I was pleased with the info received I decided to wait. Recently, I read that the gps in this device has been having problems to connect. Is the gps problem something solvable or it will be useless as long as the device lasts? Also i was wondering if this problem would have also affected to the other Samsung devices listed above, as they are coeval and some components might be shared.
Now I think about the other models, which are more expensive or cheaper but with worse performance, or happens there is less information about them. In some cases, I'm not even sure if they work in spain since nobody own them. Some models don't even have a forum for itself here in xdadevelopers. I also perceive that manufacturers don't offer a good support for this kind of mobile phones which don't seem to suppose a commercial hook. It's a pity, truly.
Any recomendations about what to buy between those models? And where? New ideas are accepted as long as they include sliding qwerty keyboard and touchscreen.
Should I desist on buying such a kind of phone? I see quite a lot of problems out there..
Been running my Captivate for over 2 years now, gps is only an issue with jb 4.2 roms i think, if you run Ics on it you shouldn't have any troubles with your gps. I really liked this phone from day 1.
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More options:
Lg mach
Htc mytouch 4g slide
Motorola droid 4
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Been running my Captivate for over 2 years now, gps is only an issue with jb 4.2 roms i think, if you run Ics on it you shouldn't have any troubles with your gps. I really liked this phone from day 1.
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so its something that has to do more with software than hardware itself, then. thanx for the answer and your experience
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Lg mach
Htc mytouch 4g slide
Motorola droid 4
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lg mach doesnt work in my country.
I didn't know the mytouch4g slide. Even so, the ram is under 1GB, like the sony Ericsson i listed. But the sony Ericsson its quite easy for me to get it in here.
Motorola droid is discarded since you have to modify hardware to be able to use it with different simcards.
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lg mach doesnt work in my country.
I didn't know the mytouch4g slide. Even so, the ram is under 1GB, like the sony Ericsson i listed. But the sony Ericsson its quite easy for me to get it in here.
Motorola droid is discarded since you have to modify hardware to be able to use it with different simcards.
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Xperia pro and mini pro have only 1core, htc mytouch 4gslide
Its dualcore 1.2ghz and have a devolpers comunity here in xda (sorry 4my english)
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I bought my wife a Captivate Glide about a year ago, since she only likes keyboard phones (and I only like GSM phones, so we can travel with them easily). It's "okay", but more and more the 4.0.4 version of the OS, combined with the fact that it's Tegra2 (no NEON instructions) makes the phone feel dated. Yes, there is an effort to port 4.2 to it, but since the phone wasn't that popular there's just not a ton of development progress for it - hence the ports are relatively immature, and I wouldn't hold out hope for feature completeness. Even if the port were complete, you'd still have to deal with having non-NEON versions of applications, which will become more and more problematic (c.f., Google Now).
It looks like the Relay 4G is a better choice from a supportability standpoint (now that it's an official CM 10.2 phone, it should at least live in the Android 4.x line for awhile), and the Exynos processor is markedly more complete and modern than the Tegra 2.
If I had to do it again, I'd have gotten my wife the Relay 4G.
Motorola droid 5 coming soon!!!
http://www.androidguys.com/2013/08/24/new-photos-suggest-qwerty-packin-droid-5-on-horizon/
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Better wait for the Droid 5.
Well I'm afraid that I went for the captivate glide among the options that I had in mind, mainly because of the price. Actually I'll open a post with several doubts that came up.
So droid 5 will be out of my possibilities when it sees the light. lol
"Wireless charging capability" that's insane.
Lies. I haven't gotten a GPS fix in three months, unrooted, no modifications.
-Ara
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