I am an indusrial designer. I want to design a wireless charging dock that will hold the N7 at around a 60 degree angle so that while it charges you can have a daydream set up.
I want to design it in Solidworks, but I will need some help on the manufacuring end. If any of you know anyone that can give me a hookup on the manufacturing side, we could do a small run of these, and if it works out on the forums, put it up on amazon. Let me know if you guys know anyone. email: [email protected]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2388337
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Oh nice. I was thinking somehing more like this.
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Super ugly, but I mocked it up in 5 min. Wireless charger would be in the round area in the middle.
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Oh nice. I was thinking somehing more like this.
Super ugly, but I mocked it up in 5 min. Wireless charger would be in the round area in the middle.
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I can picture that evolving into a really awesome design.
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I can picture that evolving into a really awesome design.
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^^ Seems like that would tip over pretty easily
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^^ Seems like that would tip over pretty easily
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Good point. I'll see what I can do. An engineer has contacted me, so we will see where this goes!
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bobloadmire said:
Good point. I'll see what I can do. An engineer has contacted me, so we will see where this goes!
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Dive you want it at 60*, add a third leg to make it a tripod. Think of the rear leg from the Microsoft surface. Maybe keep the same two spoke design for it and pivot it off of the center point.
Have the 3 legs collapse on each other (by spinning) and I'll buy one
Would be good if you were able to detach the charging cable from the actual wireless charger. This way its nice and clean look for when you just want to use it as a stand.
Maybe have the third leg come off the center of the wireless charger and have a microusb port at the foot of the 3rd leg where you would plug in the charger cord.
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I would totally buy a device like that. Can't help you with manufacturing, but I definitely wish you luck.
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I would totally buy a device like that. Can't help you with manufacturing, but I definitely wish you luck.
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Would be good if you were able to detach the charging cable from the actual wireless charger.
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This should be easy to acomodate. I am planning to have small base legs come off the 2 ends and toward the rear, this way you minimize amount of plastic, and still have an adjustable angle and leave the Qi clean at the top. Run the power cable down one of the side to an end and have the power plug plug in there so that cable runs up the base leg.
I want this, as I have been considering the like since replacing my old Nexus 7 with OEM dock for the new one. I used the old N7 on my nightstand as an alarm clock/clock radio, and to stream content to my bedroom a/v system. I used it for the same purposes while traveling as well.
It needs to be stable, like the old dock, and not too deep as there are numerous other items on a nightstand (water, kleenex, phone, etc.).
Looking forward to seeing how this progresses.
Let me know if you need any help with this. I have an engineering background/degree and am well versed in solidworks also.
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Let me know if you need any help with this. I have an engineering background/degree and am well versed in solidworks also.
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Shoot me an email. We are trying to figure out the best way to implement the Qi charger. You do electrical engineering?
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Shoot me an email. We are trying to figure out the best way to implement the Qi charger. You do electrical engineering?
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Unfortunately I am much more mechanical than electrical. I definitely dabble with my electronics though and have done some other electrical projects with another tablet in the past. For starters, learning the qi spec would be a good start. This seemed like a really good read.
http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/what-we-do/how-it-works/
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Might want to check this out too.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5412/ti-wireless-charging-new-chipsets-and-10w-charging-for-tablets
I saw somewhere (can't remember where) and Qi charger designed to be built into furniture (like a desktop). Just use a hole saw to make the right side hole for it to pop into, so that would get all the electronics out of the way in one chunk.
It would be good to start piecing together the charging circuit.
http://www.mouser.com/QiTech/
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Is there no Qi wireless charging stand that I can put the new Nexus 7 on? Do we really have to design our own? That's ridiculous.
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http://briefmobile.com/nexus-prime-unveiled-by-samsung-teaser-video
Thank you Samsung for showing off the Nexus Prime. It looks sexy to say the least.
i wonder what is that side sensor with the 3 dots?
or are those supposed to be 3 buttons?
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i wonder what is that side sensor with the 3 dots?
or are those supposed to be 3 buttons?
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I think it's a docking attachment a la Nexus One. No?
it would be interesting if it replaces the USB connectors
assuming they are actually for a docking station, and not some sensors or 3 buttons
Wow that looks thin.
Please let it come to ATT.
Shows the top end a little better.
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Wow that looks thin.
Please let it come to ATT.
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Verizon Exclusive is the current rumor, and answer as to why the passed on the SGS II.
WOW, looks magically sexy. Especially the curve. Hope they got a gorilla curved glass unlike Nexus S.
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it would be interesting if it replaces the USB connectors
assuming they are actually for a docking station, and not some sensors or 3 buttons
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I don't think micro USB will be replaced in the near future as it is standardized in the European Union. As you said it's probably dock connector in addition to the micro USB. Or maybe something radically new.
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Shows the top end a little better.
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Here's another with the shadows out:
That looks real sexy! I'm liking the fact that they kept the curved screen. Can't wait to hear all the details.
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Hmm if the thicker part is the bottom then it looks like we're looking at the right side of the phone. Maybe the three dots is a sensor-type camera shutter key so you don't shake the phone like you sometimes do when pressing a hardware shutter key?
Would be an awesome concept for still photo taking
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Unlike certain other companies, Samsung did not disappoint fans with their phone announcement today.
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Unlike certain other companies, Samsung did not disappoint fans with their phone announcement today.
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Hopefully they don't on the 11th either. ill cry if it has a snapdragon for sure.
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Hopefully they don't on the 11th either. ill cry if it has a snapdragon for sure.
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Dual-core Snapdragon wouldn't be half bad! Although, most say a TI OMAP dual-core is onboard.
i'm definitely in love.
Looks magnificent and just as sexy as the nexus s curves!
Can't wait to hear and see this beauty in action come the 11th.
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Taekn from: http://ausdroid.net/2011/10/05/sams...-something-big-and-curved-is-coming/#enhanced
The photo shows it has two ‘humps’ on the rear of the device; camera on the right; loudspeaker and radios on the left. The curve of the screen isn’t as dramatic as first thought, it’s actually quite flat in comparison to the curved blue glow that is atop of it. It also looks very Nexus S on the front and Nexus One at the back. Interesting, thanks @xavierdylan
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i'm definitely in love.
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oh yeah, me too
Hope the prime came to europe before christmas... will buy it over vodafone
Man it sucks so bad that this isn't going to be on AT&T. I am already past due for my upgrade. I don't really see a reason to get the SGSII for myself over the SGS I have if something like this is around the corner. argh.
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Man it sucks so bad that this isn't going to be on AT&T. I am already past due for my upgrade. I don't really see a reason to get the SGSII for myself over the SGS I have if something like this is around the corner. argh.
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There's also coming galaxy note, will be hard to choose which one, if nexus prime has at least almost as good specs as note with 4.5" HD display, i will surely buy nexus prime!
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Inspired by 4Pr3mier from this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497881
Sorry for the pics, it's kinda not pretty but best I could manage with what I had around:
Here's 1 pic with the phone on the dock : took picture with 3GS's phone, quality is ****ty, will try to get more later:
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Others photos have been made with Gnex's with flash:
I've been using regular boards pins : used some scissors to reduce their width (did that randomly until it was fitting inside the lego bricks).
Then used a hammer to make two holes on top of a lego brick, evaluated where holes have to be only with eyes. First brick was a fail and gap between pins was too wide, 2nd try was good.
Linked the 2 wires from a wall charger to the pins (need to attach 'em more seriously (with some duct tape) as it's only wrapped around atm).
Then tested and it's charging instantly... (info on phone show that it's "usb charging")
Will probably add some floor so it'll maintains pins in position even if I move around the dock
Yay ;-)
He he, cool :-D
WIN!!
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Very nice idea, and great work on it!
Nice work, if only it enabled dock mode.
You said you were going to do it. Looks great. My question is: why does using the pogo pins charge at USB rates? Not a deal breaker for me but I would have expected AC charging mode. Any ideas?
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You said you were going to do it. Looks great. My question is: why does using the pogo pins charge at USB rates? Not a deal breaker for me but I would have expected AC charging mode. Any ideas?
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That's the way it is lol, no way around it
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Awesome....
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You said you were going to do it. Looks great. My question is: why does using the pogo pins charge at USB rates? Not a deal breaker for me but I would have expected AC charging mode. Any ideas?
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I didn't said I would do it!
It seems you always get usb charging if u use the pogo pins, so no choice about that.
For the desk mode, well night clock (free app) can turn the phone automatically into a clock when charged and support landscape view... imho it's still pretty limited.
But I guess this lego dock can sit on the desk at my office to get some juice during day (+ that will make coworkers talk).
Anyway I'll probably get a desktop official dock whenever they are out (I'm not 100% sure if my dock is risk-free (use of board pins, use of a wall charger for pogo pins) : any input on risks will be welcome ;p
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Nice work, if only it enabled dock mode.
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Wouldn't a NFC tag and Tasker be able to solve that?
my kid is sitting on the floor in front of me playing with his lego, i asked him to make me a stand. he said "maybe" (kids are so lazy)
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My mistake. I thought it was you in another thread that said they were going to make a dock out out of Legos.
As for the pogos only charging at USB rates, that seems a little short sighted on Samsung's part. There are numerous threads on here about using navigation/LTE on USB charging and the charger can't keep up. Maybe that's why Verizon's car dock does not have pogo pins and opts for the USB connection.
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My mistake. I thought it was you in another thread that said they were going to make a dock out out of Legos.
As for the pogos only charging at USB rates, that seems a little short sighted on Samsung's part. There are numerous threads on here about using navigation/LTE on USB charging and the charger can't keep up. Maybe that's why Verizon's car dock does not have pogo pins and opts for the USB connection.
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I was thinking the same thing about Samsung not releasing the GSM docks. Maybe they are trying to find a way to make pogo charge at 1A...
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Wouldn't a NFC tag and Tasker be able to solve that?
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Good idea. That probably would solve the issue.
I make a dock with knex long time ago, for my samsung galaxy spica and for my bq verne, some pics
I use an app called DeskHome by Cowbell Software. It launches the dock app or any app you want when plugged into a charger. It hasn't been updated since I used it on my Nexus One but it works great with my Galaxy Nexus.
first gen ^^.
This is pretty awesome!
Hey man!
Really good idea!
Congrats!
So, I have a Xoom´s dock. I dont know anything about pogo pins, execpt they have it.
My question: Can I use the pogo pins form Xoom to charge my GN? (I´ll change place to make it fit on GN).
As I learned from trying to do the same thing on my car dock mod.
As shared by rotus8 in the other thread:
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The only way to get AC mode with pogo pins is with a custom kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524020
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It is on the phones hardware side and can be done with a kernel that supports it and a simple app from google play
Hi everybody! I was thinking about to buy a wireless mini-keyboard for my GNexus, but I found this
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Do you think that exists something like this for our GNex? Can you help me to find something alike? [sorry for bad english ]
Yes they do make one but it does not attach like that. It's blue tooth and costs a whopping 60 bucks. But if you're still interested I can find the link for you.
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Yes they do make one but it does not attach like that. It's blue tooth and costs a whopping 60 bucks. But if you're still interested I can find the link for you.
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I just found a cheap bt-kb but I'd like to have a slide kb
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If you didn't mind rigging it, you could just break off the edges to the iPhone one (i'm assuming it's generic bluetooth) and then glue it to a generic plastic case. You'd get the slide action at least.
I gave up on this a while ago, if anything they'd make something like this for the most standardized, popular, generic, whatever Android phone out there. So GalNex or GSIII....
The iPhone always has more cases than Android phones, because there's only one iPhone, and I hate that. Plus almost all if not all Android phones are not symmetrical and flat like the iPhone 4+ so something like a slide out keyboard would be...more difficult.
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Actually... since we do have *the* Google Phone, you might draw enough support for a Kickstarter project. Charge people $50 or whatever, and get one designed and manufactured.
Take input from the Kickstarter crowd, then make it! No ****, this could be something, I mean if a load of people already do this on KS, why can't we for something we want?
I'm in no position to pursue this, but I'll be your first backer I think. =)
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http://dx.com/s/bluetooth+keyboard
China to the rescue! Get creative. XD
I can't really find anything. I think I'll kill the design with an iphone keyboard-case glued under a gnexus case
Google why u no make a nexus w/ physical keyboard?
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I'M SERIOUS. This could work on Kickstarter, just not anyone could handle it, including myself.
No entrepreneurs out there tonight?
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I don't know how to find someone that can do this on kickstarter
With the next nexus looming I'm not sure anybody is willing to take the risk to mass produce a product for a phone about to be phased out. Wouldn't even come out till mid-2013 if they started now.
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With the next nexus looming I'm not sure anybody is willing to take the risk to mass produce a product for a phone about to be phased out. Wouldn't even come out till mid-2013 if they started now.
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Unfortunately I think he's right...
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Unfortunately I think he's right...
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There's hope for some kind of jury-rigged thing you could make yourself though. May even work if you have a holster and a thin enough bluetooth keyboard to clip in.
If I wind up ordering a BT keyboard I'll see what I can rig up.
I think I will try to merge a case and a kb when I will have the time to work...
I guess Kickstarting something would be a bit much. I look forward to seeing what you guys conjure up.
Don't forget that clearance is tight between the camera and the hump at the bottom, I don't know if that iPhone one will even fit...
I still have my jaw on the ground after watching this video!!!!!!! WOW!!!! Now, that what I call a must have accessory for Note 2 From http://www.diosystems.com/ Sixth Sense case with a built in touchpad on the back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7xJtFCQUlI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEbtEA8BQLY
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Or even better in English
http://www.diosystems.com/prod_eng.html
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Im so going to buy one the minute this is released!
This have wireless charging built in by any chance does it?
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This have wireless charging built in by any chance does it?
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Not sure about wireless charging. Case connects to micro-usb port inside to activate touch pad like otg usb peripheral device. And it provides an external micro-usb port connection for charging.
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Not sure about wireless charging. Case connects to micro-usb port inside to activate touch pad like otg usb peripheral device. And it provides an external micro-usb port connection for charging.
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Was just asking bc there were some wireless charging cases (same design using the microusb) so I thought maybe they might have killed 2 birds with one stone for Note 2 (on Verizon etc).
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Im so going to buy one the minute this is released!
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+1
This sure will make my whole life easier!!!!
Redundant
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Redundant
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Not for a true one-handed operation
How is this helping anything? Maybe this would be handy if you had no thumbs to reach the front of your device.. lol
If it an issue of not being able to reach spots of your Note2.. use Nova launcher and configure it with swipe actions to do things.
I agree.. redundant.
Plus.. do you see how HUGE this case is?? it adds a massive hunk of case below the phone. The pics are very cleverly making that somewhat transparent so it doesn't look like the phone is any bigger.. but damn.. that's HUGE.
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How is this helping anything?...
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Uh, let me think about...
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Uh, let me think about... Oh, I got it! While you watching [email protected] on your GN2 lol!!!
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For the whole 3 minutes? Thats not enough to justify the purchase I would think lol.
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For the whole 3 minutes? Thats not enough to justify the purchase I would think lol.
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But in all seriousness, you gotta agree this is one of the most original and innovative accessories we have seen for Note 2 so far. Also, making case longer has its advantage to lower your grip for index finger to have more room to control the pad. What I would add to this since micro-usb connection already in place, a built-in external battery and to offer a custom case with some bumper/lip protection.
I keep coming back to this to figure out what problem it solves. with one hand I can reach just about everywhere on the screen that I would under normal non-gaming solutions.
Just not the right product for me.
But if you only have 3 fingers or something, great idea!
For those who are curious, this is basically the answer to the Pantech Vega 6, a korean only phone. I'm sort of surprised something like this came out so soon for the Note II, here it is. You may see more similar stuff like this being common as phones get larger and larger.
here's a short ad for the pantech vega 6, but all in korean. http://youtu.be/QwYhG4E3iiY
Having had a wireless charging phone for the past 4 years, I feel that moving to a phone without one will be a bit of a pain. Since the HTC 10 doesn't have wireless charging, I'm looking for a dock to put bedside that will -hopefully- allow me to easily pop it on for charge overnight, etc.
Has anyone come across anything good? Bonus points if it also supports QC3.0
look to lg g5 dock it is very ?
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Using an QC 2 dock from iProtect with my M9. They are simple but solid and working as expected. They already launched a USB C dock with QC 3 as well. Will give it a try as soon as I received my 10. Hope it helps.
iProtect Premium USB TYP-C USB Docking Station: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01A5N5JMA/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_dYVhxbCQ4HFHG
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That iProtect dock looks nice.
But I'm personally going to wait for the docks that are made for the HTC 10, you know a hole on the bottom for the woofer speaker and so on
Neither have I ever liked these universal docks, just seems so flimsy and I aim to keep the USB port on my phones undamaged as long as I possibly can.
An example of a phone+dock combination I absolutely loved, which would be the original Note with Samsung's own Desktop Dock.
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It's just so nice to have accessories that fit your device like a glove. I could easily place that phone on the dock without even looking and with one hand. And take it off with just one hand, of course I had to use my third finger to slightly push against the dock while grabbing the phone with my thumb/index/middle finger but other than that it was just so nice.
Same applies to the official car dock I used with my Note back then.. Oh them memories.
Haven't had that kind of experience with my One M7 which is sad since otherwise I've just loved this phone.
Shame that the official accessories have pretty much died and replaced with universal junk.
I mean like with my One M7, I tried three different docks made by a third party "for the M7" (run of the mill chinese designs which are slightly tweaked and regurgitated for each new phone) which were basically what was available at the time
1) USB port isn't aligned properly
2) doesn't fit the phone properly, rocks side to side and front to back
3) this one was just bearable but decided to break after a week or two of use, the internal USB failed so it wouldn't charge anymore.
Fun! So I gave up, whatever. Don't want to waste any more money on crap products.. At times like these I wish I'd have a 3D printer so I could design my own...
How safe is this iProtect dock with all these USB-C Charging shenanigans? Any chance of frying the device?
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Using an QC 2 dock from iProtect with my M9. They are simple but solid and working as expected. They already launched a USB C dock with QC 3 as well. Will give it a try as soon as I received my 10. Hope it helps.
iProtect Premium USB TYP-C USB Docking Station: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01A5N5JMA/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_dYVhxbCQ4HFHG
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How safe is this iProtect dock with all these USB-C Charging shenanigans? Any chance of frying the device?
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How safe is this iProtect dock with all these USB-C Charging shenanigans? Any chance of frying the device?
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As far as I can tell it is save as it utilizes an IQ technology as well.
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Lisa from Mobiletechreview mentioned the Microsoft Lumia dock works with the HTC 10, meaning the HTC 10 can charge while screen mirroring, connecting to peripherals such as hard drives, etc. This is pretty awesome and has pushed me toward jumping to get the HTC 10. HTC 10 might be the closest android fans get to a desktop replacement phone. If only it could run full Chrome, it could be a chromebook/desktop replacement.
Desktop Charging Dock - Case-compatible (Type-C Charger) Encased Lifetime Warranty (Silver/Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CIG2QOG/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_VAiixbJ6QYTTM
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I would probably be worthwhile to check out some of Benson Leung's reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp?tag=phandroid-20
Some of those docks to not meet the spec, so be careful.
Do they support fast charging for HTC 10?
Keep us posted! Subscribed here to stay current.
Anyone have any updates?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017K46T1M?vs=1
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Check out also the lambda dock. To be on the save side, you simply use the cable supplied with the phone.
Here the link to the website
purchased the type in thread 9 its the NXET make but it slow charges ,,a great shame.
westentertainer said:
purchased the type in thread 9 its the NXET make but it slow charges ,,a great shame.
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Slow charge or regular charge? I guess it's meant to do it overnight. Maybe it can be modded to fit our quick charge cables
Sprint HTC 10 running BadBoyz
westentertainer said:
purchased the type in thread 9 its the NXET make but it slow charges ,,a great shame.
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with a 3.0 charger plug charges fast so my mistake.
How about scaling on those mirrored screens? I have tried MHL cable with my fullhd Sony Z2 with a fullhd monitor and it just mirrors the screen. It is not smart enought to get things smaller on a larger screen ie. the icons are huge on monitor, remote desktop is too small on mobile screen and so is on the monitor, it should instead be scaled properly. Does anyone know will usb 3.0/3.1 connection will be smarter or that is the problem with android? Look at this for example http://www.winbeta.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/HP-Elite-x3-Dock.jpg I am not MS fan or I want to buy MS phone but this scales as it should.