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[Q] Worth upgrading to SG3 from SG2?

Now before I get flamed for asking such a ridiculous question, let me start off by saying that I know the SG3 is an awesome phone and it had features and does things better/faster than the SG2. That being said, is it REALLY worth the upgrade?
I've had my SG2 for a little over a year. I'm eligible for an upgrade on October 2 and I'm debating on whether or not I should switch over to the SG3. I really love my SG2. I have it rooted and customized perfectly (for me). The only thing that I wish was better is the battery life...its still better than most android ICS phones, but it still drains pretty fast with moderate - heavy use (yes I've already played around with different ROMs, kernels and modems). While I'm at work I have to keep the phone connected to WiFi because I don't get the best reception in my office...so that causes the battery to drain as well. Because battery life is a concern I also keep it slightly undervolted, which causes it to be somewhat slow and laggy, but it gives me the best battery life. I know the SG3 is certainly going to be faster than my SG2...but is battery life that much better? I know its a bigger battery, but there's a lot more for the SG3 to power (compared to the SG2), so I'm wondering if battery life is a wash.
Anyway...for those of you that upgraded from the SG2...what are your impressions...was it worth it?
Thanks in advance!

PCap79 said:
Now before I get flamed for asking such a ridiculous question, let me start off by saying that I know the SG3 is an awesome phone and it had features and does things better/faster than the SG2. That being said, is it REALLY worth the upgrade?
I've had my SG2 for a little over a year. I'm eligible for an upgrade on October 2 and I'm debating on whether or not I should switch over to the SG3. I really love my SG2. I have it rooted and customized perfectly (for me). The only thing that I wish was better is the battery life...its still better than most android ICS phones, but it still drains pretty fast with moderate - heavy use (yes I've already played around with different ROMs, kernels and modems). While I'm at work I have to keep the phone connected to WiFi because I don't get the best reception in my office...so that causes the battery to drain as well. Because battery life is a concern I also keep it slightly undervolted, which causes it to be somewhat slow and laggy, but it gives me the best battery life. I know the SG3 is certainly going to be faster than my SG2...but is battery life that much better? I know its a bigger battery, but there's a lot more for the SG3 to power (compared to the SG2), so I'm wondering if battery life is a wash.
Anyway...for those of you that upgraded from the SG2...what are your impressions...was it worth it?
Thanks in advance!
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I can pull 14 hours with 4 hours screen on time w/ FreeGS3 rom. Now that may change now though since I flash a new kernel. We shall see.
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I'd wait for the note ii, if you can handle the size
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I would say the note 2, but i just tried the older one and it don't fit in my pockets at all. Just wait till January there will be some killer quad core behemoths waiting for you. The galaxy s3 is great phone but it made everyone step there game up a notch. I might have to get a man purse if i like the note 2 alot :/.
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Yea I looked at the Note but its just too big. The SG3 is probably the biggest i'd go

, yes it's definitely worth it if you don't want to waste your upgrade on the note 2 because you don't like the size this phone is the perfect fit I like you resisted upgrading from my S 2 but now that I have the battery life is better the phone is faster and the features and APs move way smoother I would definitely get it
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Sorry to bump an old thread but didn't want to start a new one...
Coming from an epic 4g touch, will it be worth it after all these new updates coming out? I have a hook up already set where the difference of switching will be only $200(no upgrade)..
reason why I'm hesistant is cause Samsung has failed us on very late os updates..was planning on the next nexus to be my next phone. Opinions?
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thegoodrat said:
Sorry to bump an old thread but didn't want to start a new one...
Coming from an epic 4g touch, will it be worth it after all these new updates coming out? I have a hook up already set where the difference of switching will be only $200(no upgrade)..
reason why I'm hesistant is cause Samsung has failed us on very late os updates..was planning on the next nexus to be my next phone. Opinions?
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I have both and I'm currently using e4gt cause of 4g Wimax, but I'd recommend skipping the s3 and going for the note 2 if it's within your budget!
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My opinion Nexus vs One X

My Wife and I have had the Verizon Galaxy Nexus since Winter, I am a big Nexus, fan, having owned all three Nexus phones. But also had a few HTC phones too, over the years. Next to stock vanilla Android UI, I think Sense is the second best, but since JB, I am thinking stock Android is really the only UI to have now.
Anyways, getting sick of Verizon's prices, we want to move to the GSM Unlocked Nexus or "international" One X, my two Brothers have the Nexus from the Play Store running on Straight Talk for $45/month, and they LOVE it, zero issues whatsoever, and that would be well over 150% cheaper than what we pay on Verizon. Plus CDMA radios suck battery faster than GSM in my opinion. Standby time on GSM is better.
Long story short I found a mint condition "International" One X in white, on sale for $325. I picked the one up 10 days ago. Here is my opinion of it running Sense and CM10 based ROM's and comparing it to the Galaxy LTE Nexus.
First off, the white One X is an absolutely beautiful device, very cool looking phone, and high quality, the best looking Android phone ever sold, hands down no question. Makes the Nexus look cheap and poorly designed.
The Good;
- Screen is amazing, super clear and very sharp. Reading text and news websites is so clear and easy on the eyes. At first I thought it looked washed out and dull compared to Super AMOLED from Samsung, but after a few days, I started thinking the Samsung screen sucked now, it looked cartoony in colors, and whites blow on the Nexus, where as the One X, it looks so real and true in color, and super crisp sharp. The One X is the best screen on a smartphone today, better than the iPhone5 screen my Sister owns.
- Design of the phone, just a work of art.
- Size and weight, it is very thin, and lightweight.
- Battery life on Sense ROM's is amazing, 5 hours on screen time, easily 1 day + of heavy use, this Tegra 3 is a beast with a good Sense ROM and the right kernel. Crazy good battery life with the right setup of custom ROM and battery kernel.
- When CM10 ROM's are working well, they are beautiful on the One X, and run super smooth as "butter", and crazy fast, with zero lag whatsoever. CM10 makes the One X feel like a next generation Nexus-Four ( CM10 battery life is mentioned below, in the BAD file )
The Bad;
- No S-Off yet, and doubtful if ever. This is a major bad point to me. Installing ROM's and kernels is a pain in the **** on this phone, frustrating and stupid. Always have to have the phone plugged into the PC, and go into boot loader and flash the boot.img through Command prompt on your PC, then boot into Recovery and do the flashing, but only the ROM, then the kernel must also go through that long process too, after a full reboot. And updating ROM's still need to do it. Basically you can't just flash in recovery and be done, now way, it is a long drawn out process of bull****. And if you don;t have the correct boot.img flashed in Command Prompt, good luck.
- Sense sucks. I know Sense based ROM's have insane good battery life, but there is no JellyBean Sense yet officially, so they still 4.0.4 based, and Sense just looks outdated and like from Gingerbread still. I tried 4 different Sense ROM's all with custom options to make it look like AOSP, and LOL they don't look like AOSP, still has the Sense crap in menus and running behind the scenes. Ever since Google released Android 4.0 ICS, in my opinion, there is no more need need for Sense or Touchwizz, stock vanilla Android is just the best now.
- Custom AOSP ROM's = HOLY SH!T bad battery life. There are some cool CM10 ROM's for the "international" One X, but everyone one of them has bugs here and there, or stuff not working 100% yet. And battery life is a ****ing joke, easily 60% less, compared to Sense based ROM's. I tried 4 different CM10 ROM's with three of the top kernels, and battery just blew chunks. But CM10 does run lightning fast on the One X.
To wrap this up, My Wife and I still need to get one more "Unlocked" phone to use on Straight Talk, and I was all set originally on getting 2 International One X's, but now after 10 days with the HoX, I am for sure going back to a Nexus, and will buy a GSM Nexus off the Play Store. Stock vanilla Android running a Nexus device is the best.
I would definitely stick with the One X easily if they did two things; allowed S-Off for true Recovery flashing. And CM10 ROM's mature and get stable with good battery life. I do think those two might happen, at least CM10 should be much better after a few more weeks or a month, they just started the official Nightly's on the One X last week, so it needs more development time. And S-Off might happen once with One + phone is released with Jellybean, but that's a big maybe.
For now, I will stick with Nexus phone, like I have the last three years.

Zorachus said:
For now, I will stick with Nexus phone, like I have the last three years.
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Good choice. Both on the phone, and going contract free!

CodeNameNexus said:
Good choice. Both on the phone, and going contract free!
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If CM10 on the One X was stable and had good battery life, like it does on my Nexus, then for sure I much prefer stock Jellybean on the One X, it is a nicer phone, and is very fast and smooth.
But CM10 on the One X, is a long ways from being solid with battery life, I am sure needs a good month of development time still, and we shall see from there...but the developers working on CM10 ROM's for the HoX are very smart and good guys, they will figure it out sooner than later I am sure, and it will be just as good as Sense based ROM's hopefully.
Now if the Nexus 5 rumors are true, which says it will be a HTC One X+ type of phone, I would welcome that BIG TIME, it is a very nice phone, just needs stock vanilla Android made specifically for it, and S-Off.

Nexus is about software not hardware at most what they try to innovate on is display which it the time was top of the line
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Since you're using the HoX GSM (Int'l version) I thought I'd ask here - my brother has it and every so often the signal drops out - he's on stock firmware no root etc. Signals are fine for the same network, in the same place, on my GNex though. It's the second HoX my bro is using after we exchanged the first thinking it was faulty but the same signal inconsistency shows up on the new one as well. I've read that there might be some issues with the HoX signals (radios?), Have U noticed anything of the sort? He's thinking of switching to the SGS3 or GNex because of this prob. (Physically, gotta agree with you, It's a beautiful piece of hardware, wonderful to hold and use)
Thanks.

This was the heart of the matter for me with my s3 before I changed it for a nexus. The dev team working on the port of cm10 are excellent but due to samsungs source issues, they have not been able to get it bug free yet.
After sticking with it for a while I decided it would never be as good as Jb on the nexus. That's why I changed

Am I the only one that thinks the One X is more on the fugly side of the fence?

Fwiw a custom kernel such as Franco on the Gnex will let you tweak the colors and make the whites truly white again. While I agree the onex has an amazing screen, and my greyish-blue tinted screen used to bother me, after flashing Franco kernel, and using some settings found in various xda threads, my display finally looks much better. Whites look white, and it's not as cartoony as you put it.
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djexacto said:
Fwiw a custom kernel such as Franco on the Gnex will let you tweak the colors and make the whites truly white again. While I agree the onex has an amazing screen, and my greyish-blue tinted screen used to bother me, after flashing Franco kernel, and using some settings found in various xda threads, my display finally looks much better. Whites look white, and it's not as cartoony as you put it.
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Yea the franco color tweaks are amazing. :good:

Guiding.God said:
Since you're using the HoX GSM (Int'l version) I thought I'd ask here - my brother has it and every so often the signal drops out - he's on stock firmware no root etc. Signals are fine for the same network, in the same place, on my GNex though. It's the second HoX my bro is using after we exchanged the first thinking it was faulty but the same signal inconsistency shows up on the new one as well. I've read that there might be some issues with the HoX signals (radios?), Have U noticed anything of the sort? He's thinking of switching to the SGS3 or GNex because of this prob. (Physically, gotta agree with you, It's a beautiful piece of hardware, wonderful to hold and use)
Thanks.
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Had the same problem with htc one s, could be an HTC made issue. But, either way if you have the problem as my wife and I both had, it is a horrible experience.
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speedyink said:
Am I the only one that thinks the One X is more on the fugly side of the fence?
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a agree with you

If LCD could have the blacks of amoled I would consider it. I just can't stand the grey/blue black on LCD's specially from angles.
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@ the OP.
My other phone is a tmo branded SGS2 which came with touchwiz. There are a bunch of aosp roms for it, however the battery life sucks in all of them.

jordanishere said:
@ the OP.
My other phone is a tmo branded SGS2 which came with touchwiz. There are a bunch of aosp roms for it, however the battery life sucks in all of them.
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Get a RAZR if you want android and battery life
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Over the weekend I installed the latest CM10 for the One X, and man has it improved greatly. Very stable now, with much better battery life. The standby time on the One X is amazing on battery life. And on screen time, I can go 4 hours screen time, unplugged a full day before battery drains, where as my Verizon Nexus is lucky to get 2.5 hours screen time, and dead in 12 - 14 hours. I know the GSM Nexus is substantially better on battery, it seems the Verizon Nexus just plain sucks. And I never use 4G/LTE, and battery life still sucks. I have installed different ROM's, different kernels, no sync, no GPS, no 4G, and using it daily I just can't get long battery life.

How's WiFi and data connectivity on one x as stock? I hear people are having problems with that.
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IMHO HTC One series are well made. Where as Samsung seems to like producing plastic fantastic phones, the HTC Ones are metal and have premium grade feel to it.
I agree Sense and Touchwiz... along with whatever mfg over-lays should go the way of the dinosaur. Let Android be Android.

Haven't had the chance to really check out any of the new One series phones, but I loved the build quality of my Evo. Felt solid and well constructed. It's the only thing about my Nexus that I might call a gripe. Just feels a little under built. With some extra care I don't think it will be a problem in the long term, but it does make me a bit nervous. We've all had that klutzy moment!
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Got a SH26W One X. Wifi is somehow better than the 2 previous HOX batches I got. But it's still that I sometimes get no connection for no reason.
But HOX had some serius production faults, e.g. bad Wifi antenna connection, screen ripple, screen flex and so on... Gotta say that my GNEX's production quality is much better than my HOX's... But HOX has lotta more power, 4 sure
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As someone previously said, the Nexus line is not for top of the line hardware. Newer phones such as the HTC One X and Galaxy SIII are going to obviously win out in hardware and probably build quality, but when the next version of Android comes out I can tell you who will have it first, and that is all that matters to me. Especially since the hardware on both of those phones will be outdated in a couple months.

When "smoothness" surpasses all other features

I don't know about you guys but every single time I have a discussion with a friend or even family member smoothness always seems to end up being the primary topic of discussion. Am I alone here? Why has this become so important .So important in tact that for a lot of people it superceeds major features such as lte or 4g support. Even a higher quality device or even camera or processor. Why are we all so obsessed with smoothness and why do I find myself constantly defending android and specific versions for "smoothness". I am sure like most of you I would much rather favor features and hardware over smoothness. The jelly bean update for the s2 is a testimate to just how far a quality build and os can take hardware but doesn't it just suck to say "oh ya you have to wait for the latest update to get that smooth or you need to run xx and it will be just as smooth". Feels like we are always on the defense.
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It's cuz smoothness feels nice, my phone is ultra smooth and it's ultra fast, but the average person couldn't have achieved this easily, which is why you're having that experience with others who aren't willing or able to work on their device to truly understand it's workings and then optimize them, leaving you with them probably preferring a non android phone, and also at the end of a really, really long, run-on sentence.
Different strokes for different folks' skill &/or depth of interest levels.
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Its like being really really good looking, they just don't get it .
My jelly is so smooth people confuse it with the S3. :what:
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Im sorry to say this. Dont get me wrong here. I will forever be an android guy. But it is somewhat sad when i bring home my brand new evo, or s2 and find out that my 5 year old iphone3GS has more smoothness in its graphics than a phone with 10 times more performance. I mean come on. With the power of these phones today lag should be a thing of the past. Not complaining or dogging this phone or anyones work here. This has been the best phone ive ever had.
But some of these stock builds are a little bit of a joke (all android phones in general)

My phone on gb27 is super smooth. Stock rooted.
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Because a phone can have all the high end hardware in the world but it's all for nothing if it doesn't feel like it does.
The average person isn't willing to take time out of their day just to make their phone as smooth-feeling as another phone that already feels that way, they're going to want a phone that is pleasurable to use; not one that supposedly is high end but doesn't feel like it in the fluidity of its animations and snappiness.

I updated my s2 to gb27 and it definitely runs better but have been spoiled with the "smoothness" of my s3 its quite noticeable how unsmooth my s2 is in comparison. Yet even I stick with my s3 and loose wimax capabilities just for smoothness. And I know I not the only one .
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cas8180 said:
I updated my s2 to gb27 and it definitely runs better but have been spoiled with the "smoothness" of my s3 its quite noticeable how unsmooth my s2 is in comparison. Yet even I stick with my s3 and loose wimax capabilities just for smoothness. And I know I not the only one .
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The SIII has LTE... Why would you care about WiMax? It is on its way out.
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graydiggy said:
The SIII has LTE... Why would you care about WiMax? It is on its way out.
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I think it has to do with the areas that still have WiMax but no LTE. So he has an LTE capable phone in a 3G/WiMax only area and is choosing to deal with the slower 3G speeds for "smoothness" with the SGS3 versus the faster data speeds with the E4GT's WiMax. This is exactly why I didn't upgrade to the SGS3 when I was due for an upgrade, I wanted to keep my WiMax data speeds until LTE comes to my area.
My opinion is that the E4GT is very smooth on a jelly bean aosp ROM or a jelly bean TW ROM. ICS isn't that great for "smoothness" on this phone though.

That's exactly it there are a couple of us in here from the Vegas area and there are no plans anytime in the near future for lte. However our city was an early adopter for wimax so we have excellent coverage here. However every other cell provider including metro PCs has excellent lte coverage here. Kind of ironic. But ya people here seem to always choose the s3 over the s2 just for "smoothness" reasons and sacrifice wimax for this. My ex who used to work at sprint would tell me about it all the time. Its crazy the emphasis we have put on smoothness and how dramatic it impacts our purchasing decisions.
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Most of the "smoothness" you see between android and ios has nothing to do with the hardware or the OS it's entirely because of the higher resolution. It's a placebo effect caused by more pixels tricking the eye into the transitions appearing smoother, nothing more nothing less. When you have that many pixels packed into a screen that small its going to look smooth even if its really running like crap.
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I never find myself defending android.. Because when people are stuck on something they like it is what it is.. You can state all the facts and they are still blind to to the truth
I never had any problems with my phone being smooth.. Even my s2..hell my note 2 runs circles around all my family's iPhones.. Another story and not trying to bring up a war.. I believe it's all how you take care of your phone as well.. My girls s3 lags but she doesn't ake care of it.. No telling what it's bogged down with
As far as lag with my android the only time I ever experienced lag Is when it's an app error and it had a hiccup which would be due to the developer of that app.. Which has nothing to do with the phone
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Most of the "smoothness" you see between android and ios has nothing to do with the hardware or the OS it's entirely because of the higher resolution. It's a placebo effect caused by more pixels tricking the eye into the transitions appearing smoother, nothing more nothing less. When you have that many pixels packed into a screen that small its going to look smooth even if its really running like crap.
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It's not really that. it's more so because iOS prioritizes the smoothness over everything else. It puts more resources in making the device feel quick and snappy that it limits other functions, that's why Android has always felt less smooth and is why there's till a touch to sound latency of about 100ms that is yet to be fixed in Android.
in iOS, that latency is around 1-3ms which is why you see people using iPad's for making music and such. Android can't do that just yet, that latency is killer when it comes to that.
Hell, iOS saves a screenshot of an app that you switch out of for when it actually closes it that way when you open it, any app; it looks like it remembered what you were doing and was running the whole time while it loads the actual data; That's why you can't do anything at first, because it's a picture.

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It's not really that. it's more so because iOS prioritizes the smoothness over everything else. It puts more resources in making the device feel quick and snappy that it limits other functions, that's why Android has always felt less smooth and is why there's till a touch to sound latency of about 100ms that is yet to be fixed in Android.
in iOS, that latency is around 1-3ms which is why you see people using iPad's for making music and such. Android can't do that just yet, that latency is killer when it comes to that.
Hell, iOS saves a screenshot of an app that you switch out of for when it actually closes it that way when you open it, any app; it looks like it remembered what you were doing and was running the whole time while it loads the actual data; That's why you can't do anything at first, because it's a picture.
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I remember reading that article that broke all that down a while ago. The android vs ios comparison.
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cas8180 said:
I updated my s2 to gb27 and it definitely runs better but have been spoiled with the "smoothness" of my s3 its quite noticeable how unsmooth my s2 is in comparison. Yet even I stick with my s3 and loose wimax capabilities just for smoothness. And I know I not the only one .
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Most effective thing in increasing smoothness on my phone was the Seeder app, there's controversy over how or whether it works, but from my first hand experience on 2 ET4Gs, it sped up and smoothed out both of them incredibly. And it's free on xda
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I think it's the fact that when I hit a button, I want it to respond quickly, or "smoothly." As another poster said, to each his own. I would rather have a fast, responsive, super smooth ROM than a better phone camera which is why I love this site and applaud the devs that put so much hard work into perfecting these systems. Good food for thought comment though.
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Anybody feels the S4 was rushed? Especially software wise?

So I've had my S4 since the 30th, pre-ordered it on the 29th at 3:00AM.
After using it now for about 5 days, I am pretty disappointed in the software. Basically none of the "COOL" features it has works very well, especially the head scrolling. Terrible...
The smoothness on the phone is so utterly inconsistent it bothers me till no end. 60 percent of the time, operations are silky smooth, 40 percent there is a motherload of lag. Simply closing an app will cause the animation to "stutter" as it closes. Sometimes swiping between screens will cause the phone to stutter, opening the camera sometimes is instant, sometimes it take a couple seconds! WTF that drives me insane on a phone that pulls in 12,000+ quadrant scores and wipes the floor with pretty much everything in antutu.
I blame Samsung, their TW is definitely not ready for prime time when skinned on top of 4.2.2. Seemed like a rush job to get the phone shipped with 4.2.2 so they can get the upper hand on the HTC One.
TW works absolutely flawless on 4.1 for example on the Note 2 and GS3, there was hardly a hint of lag on those phones. So what do you guys think? TW not ready for 4.2.2 or is it because it's not optimized for the new Snapdragon processor?

i had a s3 and a s2 and a s1 and all these problems people complained about was stil there. I dont remember tw being that fluid on my s3 i remember i couldnt wait to root it to add cm on it. A article i read said it best "Android phones have a reputation for customizability. And to a certain extent, they almost require tinkering to optimize the experience. Theres always gonna be something we dont like about our phones thats why we love to tinker and change it!

wasnt really rushed, just touch wiz isnt meant for performance as much as gimmicky features, which all work just fine for me.
Though the debloated wicked rom is enough to keep me happy for now. as soon as paranoid android or P.A.C drops for our phone im on them in a heart beat. I just need per app dpi to be happy, with any phone

Wicked rom speeds the lag up a bit and im sure things will only get better..
21k antutu score stock, 25k after wicked... Im sure an Oc kernel will help too
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I have 25536 on stock with bloat frozen, running nova. Its prety qiuck, but i do have issues with camera crapping out on me every once in a while
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nib said:
I have 25536 on stock with bloat frozen, running nova. Its prety qiuck, but i do have issues with camera crapping out on me every once in a while
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try wickeds rom

Will give it a shot when i have some time. Maybe will wait out till next release. I am sure we will see a lots of good stuff popping up here almost daily.
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"Anybody feels the S4 was rushed? Especially software wise?"
no.

I really don't know yet. I sold my N4 for it, got it online last night it will be here in a week. Hopefully I don't regret it.

I think it's perfectly fine. some people are just picky and complain allot!
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I actually think the software is rather well polished. The theme is still not my cup of tea, but whatever. Really the only few issues I have is with camera focus every once in a while and the little bit of stuttery animation which seems more like a governor/kernel issue than anything.
Phone is pretty awesome overall.

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I really don't know yet. I sold my N4 for it, got it online last night it will be here in a week. Hopefully I don't regret it.
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i sold my N4 for it as well; and also paid my ETF from ATT so i could move to tmobile.
haven't looked back since. :good:
(side note: ***k you ATT)

I think it's pretty well done, the fact is the motion and smart camera tricks are always a little bit of a crap shoot, and they're so situational I can't really justify leaving them on to myself. So I just turn them all off, other than that I don't mind TouchWiz, it's very bright and cartoony, but I don't think that's a bad thing necessarily.

i do not think so
they will test it almost for long times, and someother funcition will be release to us in next OTA maybe, just as the apple doing.

Galaxy S 4 Stutter fix?

The phone stutters often and it is frustrating! I just switched from the Galaxy Note II to the Galaxy S 4 and simple task like switching between home screens and application screens stutter. Third party applications run perfectly smooth. Face unlock has massive stuttering and I used it on my past devices just fine. The only thing I can think of is that it is powering a 1080P display.
I've been looking around online and all I seen were complaints or people saying they do not experience it. People who have what are some fixes?

newbieandroid said:
The phone stutters often and it is frustrating! I just switched from the Galaxy Note II to the Galaxy S 4 and simple task like switching between home screens and application screens stutter. Third party applications run perfectly smooth. Face unlock has massive stuttering and I used it on my past devices just fine. The only thing I can think of is that it is powering a 1080P display.
I've been looking around online and all I seen were complaints or people saying they do not experience it. People who have what are some fixes?
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Have you tried checking your background apps? Maybe the processor is busy running something else very resource intensive?

newbieandroid said:
The phone stutters often and it is frustrating! I just switched from the Galaxy Note II to the Galaxy S 4 and simple task like switching between home screens and application screens stutter. Third party applications run perfectly smooth. Face unlock has massive stuttering and I used it on my past devices just fine. The only thing I can think of is that it is powering a 1080P display.
I've been looking around online and all I seen were complaints or people saying they do not experience it. People who have what are some fixes?
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Try different home launchers, disable s-voice home button, flash a custom rom. I dont use face unlock. Look some more, and post questions in the questions section.
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Flash cm10.1 and your problems are fixed.
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^^^ Don't flash cm10, it's buggy and you lose all the badass tw features. Mine runs butter smooth. Like others have said try flashing a custom tw rom like wicked
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elflip88 said:
^^^ Don't flash cm10, it's buggy and you lose all the badass tw features. Mine runs butter smooth. Like others have said try flashing a custom tw rom like wicked
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Guess it depends on whether you use any of that stuff. I don't use of it. I got the phone for the hardware and the screen.
Cm10.1 = absolutely lag free. Bar none. What bugs are you referring to? I'm solid over here.
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tikay00 said:
Guess it depends on whether you use any of that stuff. I don't use of it. I got the phone for the hardware and the screen.
Cm10.1 = absolutely lag free. Bar none. What bugs are you referring to? I'm solid over here.
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The simple fact that you downgrade from the tw camera to the aosp camera is enough for me. Plus the fact that when you record video the volume is way lower. There was also a call bug that sometimes you or the other person couldn't hear each other ( I'm not sure but I think it was fixed). Cm was great for me when I had the Motorola Triumph since the triumph sucked, but cm has always had issues on all my phones that I've owned. Honestly people say it's so much smoother but I don't see a difference from tw and cm.
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elflip88 said:
The simple fact that you downgrade from the tw camera to the aosp camera is enough for me. Plus the fact that when you record video the volume is way lower. There was also a call bug that sometimes you or the other person couldn't hear each other ( I'm not sure but I think it was fixed). Cm was great for me when I had the Motorola Triumph since the triumph sucked, but cm has always had issues on all my phones that I've owned. Honestly people say it's so much smoother but I don't see a difference from tw and cm.
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No bugs on my end. Could care less about the camera, and yes, the smoothness is apparent as soon as you flash cm. Anyone can tell you that. The only reason to go with TW is the features.
It just depends on personal preference.
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I flashed the 4.3 Google Edition ROM and it is butter smooth along with the face unlock. So maybe it is not the 1080p display. I also noticed ram usage dropped by a good 50%. The TW ROM uses around 900mb-1.1Gb probably due to the bloatware that was on it. A Google Edition phone for only $580 I am happy.
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It's apparently Touch Wiz that makes the phone laggy.I'm expecting Samsung to make this less of an issue with updates since it is a new phone but I didn't want to wait.
I flashed the Infamous rom since I am not willing to give up the Samsung camera features. Then I use Nova launcher within it and it runs much faster.

Horrible touchwiz is what causes the lag, flashed GE ROM. BUTTER SMOOTH, I don't use the Samsung gimmicky features and the only camera mode I use is HDR that's included in the GE ROM
Super smooth, super stable, great battery life, more ram, win!!!
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Just flashed wickedrom, and absolutely no lag. Get all the fewtures of tw without the lag.
Win win.
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Bro if you flash Omega v7 from the "i9505" forums and right after you flash omega, flash ktoonz kernel for the TMOBILE s4, the phone runs BUTTER i mean BUTTER smooth.

dannyyyyy said:
Bro if you flash Omega v7 from the "i9505" forums and right after you flash omega, flash ktoonz kernel for the TMOBILE s4, the phone runs BUTTER i mean BUTTER smooth.
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I did that earlier, but my WiFi wouldn't turn on. Someone explained how to switch radios through oden, but that's a pain.
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I installed the ktoonz kernel on my otherwise stock 4 and it is absolutely 100% smoother.

Stock S4 here with Nova Launcher, NO LAG, here my crappy video, LOL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY_gMBPMhw0

Beside the lag has the heat given any of you some trouble? I noticed the phone heats up quicker than any of my previous phones but it doesn't seem to cause any harm to performance.
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I've had 2 M919 Galaxy S4's so far.
First one I returned because it was so incredibly laggy, everyone said theirs was butter smooth (all of whom were in denial), I thought I had a defective device. I tried all the custom roms using the Tmobile base and also international 9505 roms. Still did not fix the microstutters. Second one was laggy as hell also out of the box so I knew it was just the device. The latest international 9505 roms seem to make the phone smoother, but there are microstutters still present which should NOT BE THE CASE with a phone that's this powerful, but the biggest offender for me still is web browsing.
Open up the stock browser or chrome and go to theverge.com website, call up the full site and browse around. Pinch and zoom, then pan around. Tell me how incredibly slow it is to use. It seems like I'm using my original Motorola Droid all over again.
I'm sure by the time the Galaxy S5 comes around, Samsung "might" finally come out with a smooth working firmware for the S4, in the meantime I say ditch this device and get the HTC One. That baby is liquid smooth in EVERY operation and rips the S4 a new butt hole when it comes to web browsing smoothness and speed. Hell it even still supports full Adobe Flash even with 4.2.2.
The One is also pushing a 1080P screen so it's not the pixel count that is slowing the S4 down. It's something else. I had initially blamed the S4 lagging because of 4.2.2, reason is on my Note 2 running 4.1.2 it had next to zero lag and it's also running a heavy TW skin. I thought the HTC One was so smooth because it was still on 4.1.2. Well after updating to 4.2.2 on the HTC One, it even GOT SMOOTHER and FASTER.
I have also ran the google edition ROM's on both my S4 and my HTC One, and guess what?? The HTC ONE ran the pure GE ROM smoother than the S4 still!
The GE ROM still has slight microstutter on the S4 which is mind boggling. I noticed it a few times when opening the dialer and gmail app, the animation has a bit of microstuter in the animation when opening up. Something is definitely up with the S4 hardware wise.

Dan37tz said:
I've had 2 M919 Galaxy S4's so far.
First one I returned because it was so incredibly laggy, everyone said theirs was butter smooth (all of whom were in denial), I thought I had a defective device. I tried all the custom roms using the Tmobile base and also international 9505 roms. Still did not fix the microstutters. Second one was laggy as hell also out of the box so I knew it was just the device. The latest international 9505 roms seem to make the phone smoother, but there are microstutters still present which should NOT BE THE CASE with a phone that's this powerful, but the biggest offender for me still is web browsing.
Open up the stock browser or chrome and go to theverge.com website, call up the full site and browse around. Pinch and zoom, then pan around. Tell me how incredibly slow it is to use. It seems like I'm using my original Motorola Droid all over again.
I'm sure by the time the Galaxy S5 comes around, Samsung "might" finally come out with a smooth working firmware for the S4, in the meantime I say ditch this device and get the HTC One. That baby is liquid smooth in EVERY operation and rips the S4 a new butt hole when it comes to web browsing smoothness and speed. Hell it even still supports full Adobe Flash even with 4.2.2.
The One is also pushing a 1080P screen so it's not the pixel count that is slowing the S4 down. It's something else. I had initially blamed the S4 lagging because of 4.2.2, reason is on my Note 2 running 4.1.2 it had next to zero lag and it's also running a heavy TW skin. I thought the HTC One was so smooth because it was still on 4.1.2. Well after updating to 4.2.2 on the HTC One, it even GOT SMOOTHER and FASTER.
I have also ran the google edition ROM's on both my S4 and my HTC One, and guess what?? The HTC ONE ran the pure GE ROM smoother than the S4 still!
The GE ROM still has slight microstutter on the S4 which is mind boggling. I noticed it a few times when opening the dialer and gmail app, the animation has a bit of microstuter in the animation when opening up. Something is definitely up with the S4 hardware wise.
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I just opened up 20+ apps and didn't get not one micro stutter, running GE ROM. Also Im not in denial cause I hated the TW micro stutter when opening apps. My browser is BUTTER smooth, it rarely gives white spots and its 1 to 1 with my finger. I love it.
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