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I rooted my EVO using unrevoked and I received a notification from Sprint that there are new updates. Is it ok to update after my phone is rooted?
Thxs
You will lose root, just like it says in their instructions.
rutter9 said:
You will lose root, just like it says in their instructions.
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Yes you will lose your root, but its not as bad as everyone makes it sound now. With Unrevoked out it is easy to root so just run it then re root with unrevoked. I did the exact same thing on purpose knowing it would unroot me but it was fast and easy to root again and I felt better knowing I was up to date with Sprint's official stuff.
So with UnrEVOked, future OTA updates still work? I'm also thinking about updating the radio, WiMax, etc. (link)
snovvman said:
So with UnrEVOked, future OTA updates still work? I'm also thinking about updating the radio, WiMax, etc. (link)
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Thus far, that's the common consensus.
--Chris
CTH-EVO said:
Thus far, that's the common consensus.
--Chris
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Thanks Chris.
snovvman said:
Thanks Chris.
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NP snovvman, glad I could help.
--Chris
The latest update wouldn't work for me. I had to download the update to my pc, transfer the update to he root of my SD card and run the update from recovery and when it was done I lost root, but I just ran unrevoked again and was rooted once more.
BTW the update isn't exactly a quick process, maybe 20 minutes or so. In fact it was taking so long that I thought it locked up, but it didn't and it worked.
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I cannot connect to the network and want to install the OTA to loose root, and then root again later. I installed the OTA via wi-fi but get an error when installing.
Where can I find the unrooted version of the latest ota to download to my PC?
So i have a lot of experience with htc's, and my dad has a Desire HD he wants to root so he can use Ad-Blockers etc... SO i read the sticky, but does it wipe the phone? I don't see it mentioned anywhere... Also can i just keep him on the stock rom, because it mentions flashing a new rom etc. and i don't want to do that.
race55 said:
So i have a lot of experience with htc's, and my dad has a Desire HD he wants to root so he can use Ad-Blockers etc... SO i read the sticky, but does it wipe the phone? I don't see it mentioned anywhere... Also can i just keep him on the stock rom, because it mentions flashing a new rom etc. and i don't want to do that.
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He's on the latest official sense 3.0 btw. Phone comes from t-mobile but is unbranded.
race55 said:
So i have a lot of experience with htc's, and my dad has a Desire HD he wants to root so he can use Ad-Blockers etc... SO i read the sticky, but does it wipe the phone? I don't see it mentioned anywhere... Also can i just keep him on the stock rom, because it mentions flashing a new rom etc. and i don't want to do that.
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EDIT: forgot about downgrades.
race55 said:
He's on the latest official sense 3.0 btw. Phone comes from t-mobile but is unbranded.
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Yes it wipes as the aahk has to downgrade from that version
marsdta said:
Yes it wipes as the aahk has to downgrade from that version
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So no way to root without wiping? Is there a way to backup basically everything?
race55 said:
So no way to root without wiping? Is there a way to backup basically everything?
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Apps, yes. App data, no. At least not that I know of.
So i first backup, then the rest wil happen automatically with the toolkit? Or i need to downgrade manually?
race55 said:
So i first backup, then the rest wil happen automatically with the toolkit? Or i need to downgrade manually?
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AAHK comes with a very clear manual. That should all be covered in it.
According to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24601222&postcount=6254 It can be rooted without downgrading or losing everything.... Anyone can confirm this for me? Would try it myself but cannot risk messing up my dads phone..
race55 said:
According to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24601222&postcount=6254 It can be rooted without downgrading or losing everything.... Anyone can confirm this for me? Would try it myself but cannot risk messing up my dads phone..
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Is that for SuperOneClick? I believe that only works when you're already S-OFF.
bananagranola said:
Is that for SuperOneClick? I believe that only works when you're already S-OFF.
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Bollocks... So no rooting unfortunately
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Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
Thanks!
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geocine said:
Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
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If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
geocine said:
Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
Thanks!
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Just rooting doesn't prevent updates. You just lose root and have to reapply after update.
Custom recovery means you probably need to download the update file and apply it via the recovery instead of the automatic updater.
Changing or removing system files will almost definitely prevent updates being applied.
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gbroon said:
Just rooting doesn't prevent updates. You just lose root and have to reapply after update.
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Actually I was surprised also, but SuperSU does prevent the OTA from completing successfully.
Read the referenced link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
I JUST did this. I had TWRP and rooted. I has 15J. Booted my nandroid. Downloaded the 15Q update, restarted to install. TWRP caught the stock image and flashed it.
Then I booted into 15Q. I lost root and TWRP. Flashed over TWRP through fastboot and rooted.
No issues.
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player911 said:
I JUST did this. I had TWRP and rooted. I has 15J. Booted my nandroid. Downloaded the 15Q update, restarted to install. TWRP caught the stock image and flashed it.
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Are you rooted using SuperSU, what version, and can I examine the zip file.
Thanks guys, actually I haven't rooted this device yet. Because I am still reading on stuff here on xda how to do it the right way and the links you posted
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sfhub said:
If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
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hi sfhub, do I need to do
fastboot oem unlock
before doing
fastboot boot twrp.img ?
I've been rooted since day one and gotten ota updates fine.
I use twrp and just make sure to flash supersu each time and call it good. Not a single problem on my end.
Even still if you bork it just flash factory image. It's pretty simple to get out of a pinch. But rooting and ota should work fine as long as you keep stock image. Just reflash supersu each time and you're good to go.
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geocine said:
hi sfhub, do I need to do
fastboot oem unlock
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fastboot boot twrp.img ?
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If you aren't already unlocked then, yes.
Most people will already be unlocked though if they are rooted.
fastboot oem unlock process will force a factory reset for security purposes so backup anything important.
sfhub said:
If you aren't already unlocked then, yes.
Most people will already be unlocked though if they are rooted.
fastboot oem unlock process will force a factory reset for security purposes so backup anything important.
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I haven't rooted my device yet , I am on all stock. Does 'fastboot boot' just loads the twrp image and not flash it?
How will I be able to backup stuff, are there any other options aside from titanium backup that requires root .
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geocine said:
I haven't rooted my device yet , I am on all stock. Does 'fastboot boot' just loads the twrp image and not flash it?
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Yes.
geocine said:
How will I be able to backup stuff, are there any other options aside from titanium backup that requires root .
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There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
sfhub said:
Yes.
There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
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Thanks, I am currently backing up using adb., a non 100% backup is better than no backup at all. I hate redoing things.
sfhub said:
Yes.
There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
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While we are it, I just want to ask if it is also possible to bring back the bootloader to a locked state. thanks.
geocine said:
While we are it, I just want to ask if it is also possible to bring back the bootloader to a locked state. thanks.
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Yes, very simple, just type
fastboot oem lock
I would advise against doing so unless you plan to return the unit though, as if you ever need to do stuff to your system (even factory restore) then you'd need to unlock again, which would factory reset again.
sfhub said:
If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
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Here is a post from sfhub
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geocine said:
Here is a post from sfhub
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BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
sfhub said:
BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
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The 1.55 update doesn't appear to want to install properly for me from Google Play. Is this an issue of having the OTA fix installed?
Nevermind...i guess i needed to reboot...but, this does beg the question, is there anything related to the OTA fix that needs to be "uninstalled" in general?
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Nevermind...i guess i needed to reboot...but, this does beg the question, is there anything related to the OTA fix that needs to be "uninstalled" in general?
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No, there is nothing to uninstall. It is very clean.
sfhub said:
BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
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Is there anything I should do if I already have your fix installed?
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Is everyone rooting without issue? Dont care about knox and all that. But I need to freeze this bloat!
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Is everyone rooting without issue? Dont care about knox and all that. But I need to freeze this bloat!
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I just rooted without tripping the Knox flag. There's a thread in the Original Development section about it. It's a fairly simple process
fredrick1213 said:
I just rooted without tripping the Knox flag. There's a thread in the Original Development section about it. It's a fairly simple process
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I know its easy.. did you use the att root then? You cant flash roms with that style can you?
nlarge said:
I know its easy.. did you use the att root then? You cant flash roms with that style can you?
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If you want to flash roms then you should go with the auto root method. This just gives root access.
fredrick1213 said:
If you want to flash roms then you should go with the auto root method. This just gives root access.
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Just double checking that no one is bricking with it.
Although with att root can I auto root later? I like phone as is minus bloat for now.
You said you don't care about knox so why go down that road?
HughesNet said:
You said you don't care about knox so why go down that road?
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Used cf auto... now need a hosts file since adaway wont work without an insecure image
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Used cf auto... now need a hosts file since adaway wont work without an insecure image
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Go to bigtincan.Com and get their ad free apk. It works with just root and stock rom and recovery
DataHawg said:
Go to bigtincan.Com and get their ad free apk. It works with just root and stock rom and recovery
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Good call! Thanks
Until these recoveries are good im playing safe. Id like to use the volume mod but not without working restore
Is there some way to get root without unlocking the bootloader/wiping?
AFAIK root requires a custom recovery, to flash a custom recovery requires unlocked bootloader, so simple answer is no.
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AFAIK root requires a custom recovery, to flash a custom recovery requires unlocked bootloader, so simple answer is no.
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What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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Nothing, the only downside is the need to wipe data.
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Nothing, the only downside is the need to wipe data.
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I want sure about the fingerprint, etc. Thanks!
Damn, read a bit about what a bootloader is, its role is described in its name. Those fears are pointless.
Striatum_bdr said:
Damn, read a bit about what a bootloader is, its role is described in its name. Those fears are pointless.
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Not necessary, coming from other devices. I am no noob, I know what BL is, but some manufacturers tie certain features to locked BL. Sony for example cripples camera when you unlock.
kokesh said:
Not necessary, coming from other devices. I am no noob, I know what BL is, but some manufacturers tie certain features to locked BL. Sony for example cripples camera when you unlock.
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oneplus works same whether the bootlader is locked or unlocked. the only downside is as soon as you lock or unlock your bootloader your phone is wiped completely.
bonham1988 said:
oneplus works same whether the bootlader is locked or unlocked. the only downside is as soon as you lock or unlock your bootloader your phone is wiped completely.
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How does it work with OTA updates? Do those work with TWRP?
kokesh said:
How does it work with OTA updates? Do those work with TWRP?
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Otas dont work with twrp, oneplus releases a singed ota update on their forums usually within a week or two after the official ota. These singned updates can be flashed via twrp.
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The only downside to unlocking the BL on the OP3 is that you get a warning message (http://i.imgur.com/88NcI2K.jpg) when booting the phone. Lots of people hate it, i like it personally. It makes pressing button combos to get into fastboot/recovery obsolete.
bonham1988 said:
Otas dont work with twrp, oneplus releases a singed ota update on their forums usually within a week or two after the official ota. These singned updates can be flashed via twrp.
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And xda often have a TWRP flash able update before the OTA has reached everyone.
ghostofcain said:
AFAIK root requires a custom recovery ...
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If flashing is the only way to root the device, then yes.
And unfortunately flashing seems to be the only way.
kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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Security. Your data are no more safe if your phone get stolen.
kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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All SafetyNet apps stop working (Android Pay, PokeGO etc.)
kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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I loose Android Pay. That's what i miss
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fp1707 said:
I loose Android Pay. That's what i miss
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Use Magisk and its all fine.
Puddi_Puddin said:
Use Magisk and its all fine.
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I tried setting that up but i keep failing. Not sure what i'm doing wrong
NVM i see what i got wrong, now it works just fine
bonham1988 said:
oneplus works same whether the bootlader is locked or unlocked. the only downside is as soon as you lock or unlock your bootloader your phone is wiped completely.
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This is not correct on OxygenOS 4.0.2, it's possible to root without wipe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDRPWvYJYfU