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hi here is a program how you can underclock an htc diamond.
download this program:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueClockControl.aspx
then install it and set the frequency!!
I hope you like it. i use it and it works wel!!
//nick
nickislauw said:
hi here is a program how you can underclock an htc diamond.
download this program:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueClockControl.aspx
then install it and set the frequency!!
I hope you like it. i use it and it works wel!!
//nick
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good ideea, but you can burn the microprocessor of phone.
DjMaryuslive said:
good ideea, but you can burn the microprocessor of phone.
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no you absolutely cant.. you dont OVERCLOCK your device.. ur UNDERclocking it. its good. im using it now and underclocked it and there are no problems.
//Nick
nickislauw said:
no you absolutely cant.. you dont OVERCLOCK your device.. ur UNDERclocking it. its good. im using it now and underclocked it and there are no problems.
//Nick
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I do not understand what is " UNDERclocking "
DjMaryuslive said:
I do not understand what is " UNDERclocking "
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ok look. the diamonds processor is 525mhz eh. with this tool you can underclock it. you can do it to like 300mhz or 256mhz. the device runs some slower but the battery life will be better you understand it now?
//Nick
The simple explanation is:
Underclocking: Makes the processor run at a speed lower than it is designed/certified for.
Overclocking: Makes the processor run at a speed higher than it is designed/certified for.
Edit: forgot to say the reason you may want to underclock is to save battery power. You would overclock to improve performance.
nickislauw said:
ok look. the diamonds processor is 525mhz eh. with this tool you can underclock it. you can do it to like 300mhz or 256mhz. the device runs some slower but the battery life will be better you understand it now?
//Nick
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is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone
DjMaryuslive said:
is wonderful.... but i think it might ruin cellphone,who knows.
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lol no it wont ruin. underclock is just safe but you got to watch out for overclocking.
//Nick
nickislauw said:
lol no it wont ruin. underclock is just safe but you got to watch out for overclocking.
//Nick
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is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone
DjMaryuslive said:
EDIT:
is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone
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i don't think so..i've underclocked my phone and all is working well but slow...but i've overclocked the phone to 660mhz when using android and still no damages
DjMaryuslive said:
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is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone
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no it wont ruin because its not that slow.. its just a LITTLE slower. fast enough to run everythung smooth. believe me
//Nick
HELICOPTER88 said:
i don't think so..i've underclocked my phone and all is working well but slow...but i've overclocked the phone to 660mhz when using android and still no damages
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not overburden it is a tip from me to you / nu i-l suprasolicita este un sfat din partea mea pentru tine
underclocked
Underclocking your phone will do no damage to it at all
You can run Photoshop on a PC with a 1Ghz CPU and on a PC with a 3Ghz CPU
No damage done to the slower CPU, just not as fast
Keep in mind that this has close to NO effect at all when the phone is sleeping.
So, unless you're constantly using your phone - and you don't need the speed - there's no need for this!
im trying to code an app that will dynamically adjust clock speed depending on cpu load. so far i got it to take the cpu to 200mhz if cpu usage is under 50%.
i need more work to code in more clock states and tune the clock triggering thresholds.
Still learning in the scene but I rooted my phone sometime 1 month ago and now using MikFroyo custom rom. Now I hear you can overclock the device to get a better benchmark on the device. My question is how ??
Please be easy on me lol. I am coming from a iPhone which is pretty pampered over there.
Thanks.
Set CPU from market
kingofslackerz said:
Set CPU from market
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Then what I am setting ? Like I see the max @ 998400 min 245000..... Should I change the scaling ?
thanks.
You need a custom kernel first. Developement section's got a nice selection, with tons of posts showing peoples set-ups.
Don't get too caught up in benchmarks. A better score doesn't necessarily mean it is faster in real world usage. More for braggin rights than anything else.
Welcome to the EVO forum.
Its a great way to heat up, shorten battery life and cause more force closures. Good Luck!
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fgarcia25 said:
Then what I am setting ? Like I see the max @ 998400 min 245000..... Should I change the scaling ?
thanks.
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You can't overclock with a stock kernel. Like chris66 said you gotta go with a custom one.
Check out netarchys kernels, great work he does.
What is a safe range for battery temp.? I'm running in the mid 90s F. Sometimes it even gets up to 104 or so....... ?
cpu settings are built into CM7 now, thats how i manage it
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What is a safe range for battery temp.? I'm running in the mid 90s F. Sometimes it even gets up to 104 or so....... ?
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That's normal. Basically, if you get to 50C (122F), then it's time to shut off your phone and yank the battery then stick them both by the window. Android will start *****ing at you that it's too hot at that point.
I have recently rooted my dhd and currently running CM7. Using the cpu setting within the performance menu I am wondering what peoples thoughts are on a noticeable but safe increase of cpu speed. its set as 1017MHz which i believe is default. I am told I can run anything up to 1500 safely. can anyone confirm this and also tell me what kind of result (performance and battery life) i should expect.
thanks
Well, I use Android Revolution HD (a sense rom, meaning heavy UI!) and i overclock to about 1.3GHz. In terms of battery life when it's awake, it seems a drain a teeny bit more readily, but I've never had a freeze on sense (quite rare)
On stock it underclocks to let the processor max at around 400MHz when the screens off, so that helps to really save a lot of battery on standby. On CM, I'd expect it'd feel more or less the same in terms of performance after you hit 1.2/1.3GHz
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Well, I use Android Revolution HD (a sense rom, meaning heavy UI!) and i overclock to about 1.3GHz. In terms of battery life when it's awake, it seems a drain a teeny bit more readily, but I've never had a freeze on sense (quite rare)
On stock it underclocks to let the processor max at around 400MHz when the screens off, so that helps to really save a lot of battery on standby. On CM, I'd expect it'd feel more or less the same in terms of performance after you hit 1.2/1.3GHz
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thanks for the reply mate. going to try out revolution HD soon i think. have you overclocked using a third party app or is there one built into that rom?
also im a little confused by the governors. 'on demand' is the default governor. Does that mean it will only use the max selected cpu speed when necessary? would you recommend using a difference setting?
cheers
rhodri11 said:
thanks for the reply mate. going to try out revolution HD soon i think. have you overclocked using a third party app or is there one built into that rom?
also im a little confused by the governors. 'on demand' is the default governor. Does that mean it will only use the max selected cpu speed when necessary? would you recommend using a difference setting?
cheers
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The CPU is managed by the ROM itself. You can tweak it yourself by using setCPU (or similar), but I can advise you not to. Can't help you with the governors buddy, since I dunno what it is
Cheers
darude0306 said:
The CPU is managed by the ROM itself. You can tweak it yourself by using setCPU (or similar), but I can advise you not to. Can't help you with the governors buddy, since I dunno what it is
Cheers
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nice one dude
I'm running cm7 and I'm overclocked to 1.5 ghz. It's been totally fine for months.
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rhodri11 said:
thanks for the reply mate. going to try out revolution HD soon i think. have you overclocked using a third party app or is there one built into that rom?
also im a little confused by the governors. 'on demand' is the default governor. Does that mean it will only use the max selected cpu speed when necessary? would you recommend using a difference setting?
cheers
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Lucky you picked a linuxhead!
The system itself has a daemon (background process built into the system) that handles overclocking. It's all explained on the page and also on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14638641&postcount=34279
You can use another app (like SetCPU) but the daemon usually handles screen off's quicker. The governors basically determine how the processor frequency is changed. I'll explain the common ones:
Performance - Runs at highest speed, so if you have a range of 200 to 1.3G, it'll stay at 1.3G all the time, not usually the best
Ondemand - The universal default for phone overclocking, it only changes the speed up after a certain percentage of the CPU is used, and it switches on the fly, so if the CPU is used too much at 400MHz, it'll ramp it up to maybe 600 or 800, and if it's still overused, it'll put it up to maybe 1 or 1.2G
Conservative - This is like ondemand, except it makes the changes more gradual. It can give noticable lags in the foreground at times, so this is mainly used when the phone is asleep (screen off)
Smartass - This governor is like ondemand, except it'll less readily switch frequencies to higher values when it detects the screen off. This isn't really used because the overclocking daemons take into account the phone being awake or not
Basically, there isn't really a need to change governors, only really frequencies if anything. The thread, however, does tell you how to change governors.
Im using latest LeeDroid GB 3.2.1 and to be honest with the work he's done with the Kernal (3.1.8BFS) I have found that the ROM is a lot MORE responsive without me overclocking the CPU.
Im not really sure how it all works, but I guess doing this on different ROMS has its own different out comes.
overclocking has me confused too, is there really that much of a benefit in it? how much will i gain from it?
toby_lerone said:
overclocking has me confused too, is there really that much of a benefit in it? how much will i gain from it?
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There is a benefit when you use certain apps, or even sense itself. For example, I've never had sense ui freeze, or go slow. The under clocking helps to improve the rubbish battery life when your phone is asleep.
In terms of measuring the gain, I have no idea. Really, I'd think you could use a process heavy app, or benchmarking app and see.
There's also loads of guides on overclocking to help out! (that's how I got the hang of it! )
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For the need on OC, it depends on the kind of apps u're using. If u're happy w a non OC DHD, its totally up to u.
But for the UC, it works as a terrific battery saver, mich better/effective than other battery saver soln on market
The safe range depends on the DHD as the manufacturing changed even though same part, i'm OC 1.5GHz "On Demand" profile and under clock 245MHz on screen off "Power Save" profile.
Getting approx a day usage on Lee 2.1.
I get having it be higher than necessary to avoid bugs... but the 153mhz CORE slot can go to 90mV down from 8-900. That's 1/10th of the original voltage. Why would Google/Samsung ship it using so much more than what it needs?
Hungry Man said:
I get having it be higher than necessary to avoid bugs... but the 153mhz CORE slot can go to 90mV down from 8-900. That's 1/10th of the original voltage. Why would Google/Samsung ship it using so much more than what it needs?
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Those are MAX voltages...and I call hogwash on the 90mV, unless you are disabling smart reflex. Then I would want to see some actual proof.
Lower than 70mV is unstable. I didn't disable smartreflex, but even if I do it makes no difference. Maybe someone else can share their lowest voltage for this. I'm sure I'm undervolting it as it becomes quite unstable if I input 60mV, so obviously something's happening.
Yes, they're max voltages, but even with SR it doesn't go below 886 or something.
I find that tough to swallow. Did you actually verify the voltage with a kernel log?
What's the easiest way to do that? I'd like to confirm it myself. Like I said, I know it's doing something because at 50-60mV there are instant issues.
Hungry Man said:
What's the easiest way to do that? I'd like to confirm it myself. Like I said, I know it's doing something because at 50-60mV there are instant issues.
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If memory serves, dmesg will log it.
Yikes. A lot of output and no 'grep'. Give me a minute.
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Lower than 70mV is unstable. I didn't disable smartreflex, but even if I do it makes no difference. Maybe someone else can share their lowest voltage for this. I'm sure I'm undervolting it as it becomes quite unstable if I input 60mV, so obviously something's happening.
Yes, they're max voltages, but even with SR it doesn't go below 886 or something.
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You have to disable smart reflex for your voltage settings to work. It isn't going down to 90mv. Disable smart reflex and then set that, I doubt your phone will run.
Voltage Nominal=75000, Calib=75---, margin=38000
Seems to be the most relevant. And yeah, I've got it at 75 right now.
And I've disabled SR as well, it doesn't change anything. And the voltage settings definitely do work witohut disabling it as, like I said, going too far down will cause a crash. So obviously it's doing something.
Have you guys tried undervolting that far?
And I'm doing this with franco kernel updater. The widget is showing the Core voltage to be 75.
Hungry Man said:
Voltage Nominal=75000, Calib=75---, margin=38000
Seems to be the most relevant. And yeah, I've got it at 75 right now.
And I've disabled SR as well, it doesn't change anything. And the voltage settings definitely do work witohut disabling it as, like I said, going too far down will cause a crash. So obviously it's doing something.
Have you guys tried undervolting that far?
And I'm doing this with franco kernel updater. The widget is showing the Core voltage to be 75.
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thats 900mV and 750mV. and there is a large variation between individual devices. some can handle much less and some cant handle a tiny bit less. but undervolting too much will end up using more battery to achieve what it needs to achieve from working longer/harder to get there. 90mV without or even with smart relex will cause your phone to freeze then reboot.
but undervolting too much will end up using more battery to achieve what it needs to achieve from working longer/harder to get there
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Why? I know that underclocking would do this - the time to finish a task at a lower clockspeed is longer.
I don't see how lowering the mV can possibly increase battery usage.
90mV without or even with smart relex will cause your phone to freeze then reboot.
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But mine isn't freezing until I put it at 60-70,V.
thats 900mV and 750mV
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Not according to the app.
Hopefully this attached a screenshot.
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Hopefully this attached a screenshot.
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no, you are right. i didnt see that you mentioned core. after looking at the original post i see the core now. anyways, at that low a voltage it will operate, but wont be fully functional.
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anyways, i dont know what that app is reporting, but franco kernel can only be set to a minimum of 830mV. looks like a mistake or a bug in his app. im gonna email him.. https://bitbucket.org/franciscofran...e9aa9b26/arch/arm/mach-omap2/voltage.h#cl-184
It seems functional... I mean, clearly the GPU is working (and at that voltage according to the app) because the screen is on/ not artifacting.
Is it just incorrectly reporting it? Is there another way to confirm it? Dmesg was not clear.
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It seems functional... I mean, clearly the GPU is working (and at that voltage according to the app) because the screen is on/ not artifacting.
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check the link out that i just posted. franco kernel can only be set to a minimum of 830mV, the app is reporting wrong. its setting, but not actually setting https://bitbucket.org/franciscofran...e9aa9b26/arch/arm/mach-omap2/voltage.h#cl-184
So what is it actually setting it to? Because if I set it *too* low it still does give me errors... so how can it be both?
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So what is it actually setting it to? Because if I set it *too* low it still does give me errors... so how can it be both?
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i think it gets set to 830. i let francisco know, we'll see what he says.
Alright. It's just weird. Because if anything under 830 is setting it to 830, and 830 is stable (because 95 shows stable) than how would 830 be unstable when the UI shows it as 40.
I mean, 90mV is kinda insane. It would definitely make sense if it were more like 830. It's just confusing.
Hopefully francisco can explain.
simms22 said:
check the link out that i just posted. franco kernel can only be set to a minimum of 830mV, the app is reporting wrong. its setting, but not actually setting https://bitbucket.org/franciscofran...e9aa9b26/arch/arm/mach-omap2/voltage.h#cl-184
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Hmm, then why does setting an absurd voltage like 200mV cause an instant reboot while I can set it to 830mV and it runs fine?
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Yeah I can set it to 830mV and it runes fine. No issues until I drop to 60mV. I haven't reached a limit for any of them.
is it true that over-clocking can damage my phone??
I like it when it's fast enough to play any games but i'm a little worried that OC might damage my phone..
do you have any suggestion about the right minimum and maximum frequency??(sorry 4 my english)
deosantos said:
is it true that over-clocking can damage my phone??
I like it when it's fast enough to play any games but i'm a little worried that OC might damage my phone..
do you have any suggestion about the right minimum and maximum frequency??(sorry 4 my english)
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it really depends, im using CM10 on 134-1024 Mhz. Most the games are smooth. Its safe to OC up to 1.4 GHz imo. 1.6 GHz and 1.8 GHz might damage over time and a lot of usage at max frequency
OC is always bad and dangerous, no matter what clocks you use.
Besides, OC doesn't give any major performance boost, you can barely see it.
Someguyfromhell said:
OC is always bad and dangerous, no matter what clocks you use.
Besides, OC doesn't give any major performance boost, you can barely see it.
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To add on, constant OC = spoiling your phones.
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TheHaso said:
it really depends, im using CM10 on 134-1024 Mhz. Most the games are smooth. Its safe to OC up to 1.4 GHz imo. 1.6 GHz and 1.8 GHz might damage over time and a lot of usage at max frequency
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so it's 100% safe if i OC it up to 1.4?
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OC is always bad and dangerous, no matter what clocks you use.
Besides, OC doesn't give any major performance boost, you can barely see it.
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oh,so u mean OC is not that useful at all?should I just stay ay 1024 then?
Why bother overclocking something that is outdated specification wise? And with an single core, the performance boost is non-existant because the core will be driven hard and generate heat and voila.. RIP!
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deosantos said:
oh,so u mean OC is not that useful at all?should I just stay ay 1024 then?
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Just stick with device default, don't have to set CPU frequency
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deosantos said:
oh,so u mean OC is not that useful at all?should I just stay ay 1024 then?
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use memory setting app from playstore without overclock cpu
well thanks for the reply,i'm new here so I don't know how to quote your replies yet..
one last question,,have you ever heard of somone who broke his/her phone because of overclocking???
deosantos said:
well thanks for the reply,i'm new here so I don't know how to quote your replies yet..
one last question,,have you ever heard of somone who broke his/her phone because of overclocking???
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oh yes, because phone cpu have bad support to overclock. Desktop pc more better, but this it's other story...
deosantos said:
well thanks for the reply,i'm new here so I don't know how to quote your replies yet..
one last question,,have you ever heard of somone who broke his/her phone because of overclocking???
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It's not a matter of hearing it from someone. It will definitely happen if you overclock your phone since increasing the maximum frequency from the design limit will fry your phone.
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It's not a matter of hearing it from someone. It will definitely happen if you overclock your phone since increasing the maximum frequency from the design limit will fry your phone.
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oh,ok..well i guess i shouldn't bother altering the frequency..thanks for the help.!!:laugh: