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[HOW TO] underclock the HTC Diamond

hi here is a program how you can underclock an htc diamond.
download this program:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueClockControl.aspx
then install it and set the frequency!!
I hope you like it. i use it and it works wel!!
//nick

nickislauw said:
hi here is a program how you can underclock an htc diamond.
download this program:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueClockControl.aspx
then install it and set the frequency!!
I hope you like it. i use it and it works wel!!
//nick
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good ideea, but you can burn the microprocessor of phone.

DjMaryuslive said:
good ideea, but you can burn the microprocessor of phone.
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no you absolutely cant.. you dont OVERCLOCK your device.. ur UNDERclocking it. its good. im using it now and underclocked it and there are no problems.
//Nick

nickislauw said:
no you absolutely cant.. you dont OVERCLOCK your device.. ur UNDERclocking it. its good. im using it now and underclocked it and there are no problems.
//Nick
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I do not understand what is " UNDERclocking "

DjMaryuslive said:
I do not understand what is " UNDERclocking "
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ok look. the diamonds processor is 525mhz eh. with this tool you can underclock it. you can do it to like 300mhz or 256mhz. the device runs some slower but the battery life will be better you understand it now?
//Nick

The simple explanation is:
Underclocking: Makes the processor run at a speed lower than it is designed/certified for.
Overclocking: Makes the processor run at a speed higher than it is designed/certified for.
Edit: forgot to say the reason you may want to underclock is to save battery power. You would overclock to improve performance.

nickislauw said:
ok look. the diamonds processor is 525mhz eh. with this tool you can underclock it. you can do it to like 300mhz or 256mhz. the device runs some slower but the battery life will be better you understand it now?
//Nick
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is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone

DjMaryuslive said:
is wonderful.... but i think it might ruin cellphone,who knows.
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lol no it wont ruin. underclock is just safe but you got to watch out for overclocking.
//Nick

nickislauw said:
lol no it wont ruin. underclock is just safe but you got to watch out for overclocking.
//Nick
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EDIT:
is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone

DjMaryuslive said:
EDIT:
is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone
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i don't think so..i've underclocked my phone and all is working well but slow...but i've overclocked the phone to 660mhz when using android and still no damages

DjMaryuslive said:
EDIT:
is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone
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no it wont ruin because its not that slow.. its just a LITTLE slower. fast enough to run everythung smooth. believe me
//Nick

HELICOPTER88 said:
i don't think so..i've underclocked my phone and all is working well but slow...but i've overclocked the phone to 660mhz when using android and still no damages
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not overburden it is a tip from me to you / nu i-l suprasolicita este un sfat din partea mea pentru tine

underclocked
Underclocking your phone will do no damage to it at all
You can run Photoshop on a PC with a 1Ghz CPU and on a PC with a 3Ghz CPU
No damage done to the slower CPU, just not as fast

Keep in mind that this has close to NO effect at all when the phone is sleeping.
So, unless you're constantly using your phone - and you don't need the speed - there's no need for this!

im trying to code an app that will dynamically adjust clock speed depending on cpu load. so far i got it to take the cpu to 200mhz if cpu usage is under 50%.
i need more work to code in more clock states and tune the clock triggering thresholds.

Overclock beyond 1267mhz ?

Is it possible, and how?

yes how to overclock more than that, it seems stuck on 1267mhz

yansen78 said:
yes how to overclock more than that, it seems stuck on 1267mhz
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infexis said:
Is it possible, and how?
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seriously.. kids you don't want to do that, Overclocking makes heat, heat makes phone melt!
Phone arent cooling geniuses

doable yes
advisable no
ab i think you need to add vales int he kernel then add the values to the setcpu.txt
just add
, 1300000 to the end of setcpu.txt and whatever u want above that

it has to be enabled in the kernel for it to work in setcpu or anything, it has been tested by Richardtrip and unfortunately it didn't work out -- don't think there is any point just yet anyway.

StrongOneX said:
seriously.. kids you don't want to do that, Overclocking makes heat, heat makes phone melt!
Phone arent cooling geniuses
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maybe he live on nort pole,& have extrime cooling

yes how to overclock more than that, it seems stuck on 1267mhz
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Is it possible, and how?
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seriously.. kids you don't want to do that, Overclocking makes heat, heat makes phone melt!
Phone arent cooling geniuses
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CPU seems to stay cool enough. Its the battery that causes the most heat on the desire. Just push the voltage a little bit more then try to hit 1.4ghz. Yes its going to be a massive drian on the battery, but it would be fun for people that wants to beat everyone's benchmarking scores I don't recommend useing the overvolt for too long tho.
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[Q] Any higher value than 1297 mhz?

Is there any kernel for Desire with higher value than 1297 mhz?
Sorry for english.

Not for every day use - higher values not supported to avoid frying the device

I'm not sure, but I think this kernel goes up to 13.. http://tiamat-aosp.com/
I used it only for one day, because my device had a bootloop on 1.2 Ghz.
I don't think that it makes a big difference to go up further.

szubert51 said:
Is there any kernel for Desire with higher value than 1297 mhz?
Sorry for english.
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Intensive use of the CPU will cause overheating which will result in device failure, mainly motherboard issues.

_Balu said:
I'm not sure, but I think this kernel goes up to 13.. http :// tiamat-aosp.com
I used it only for one day, because my device had a bootloop on 1.2 Ghz.
I don't think that it makes a big difference to go up further.
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I'd use this kernel. Maximum value is 1297mhz. But when I use it with oxygen 2.1.3 it format my sd card .
paul.c said:
Intensive use of the CPU will cause overheating which will result in device failure, mainly motherboard issues.
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I hope I won't lose guarantee after burning CPU.
Sorry for my english

I would not try to keep the frequency on a high level (for a long time). It just doesn't make sense. It could help you to play games fluently, but you don't need it. Be on the safe site and don't overclock your device (or not all the time).

_Balu said:
I would not try to keep the frequency on a high level (for a long time). It just doesn't make sense. It could help you to play games fluently, but you don't need it. Be on the safe site and don't overclock your device (or not all the time).
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Of course I don't overclock CPU all the time, I want oc only for benchmark/game (N.O.V.A 2) Also I'm interested what is the highest value i can oc CPU?

Lol benchmarks
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[Q] Maximum clock (cpu) speed

Hello.
My friend say that he can over clock this thing to 1.5 ghz but i don't believe him.
So what is the maximum clock speed?

800mhz and it's unstable.
Your friend is bullshitting. No way can a lower end single core be clocked that fast, it would simply just burn out.

hene193 said:
Hello.
My friend say that he can over clock this thing to 1.5 ghz but i don't believe him.
So what is the maximum clock speed?
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+1 and A very very big lie of your friend
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You can't oveclock over 800 mhz. Ok maybe i lie, you can overclock over 800 mhz but it be hot like sun in core. sorry for my English

imlgl said:
800mhz and it's unstable.
Your friend is bullshitting. No way can a lower end single core be clocked that fast, it would simply just burn out.
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Hahahahaha... Your wrong. My MARVEL is totally stable and well... read my signature

benjamingwynn said:
Hahahahaha... Your wrong. My MARVEL is totally stable and well... read my signature
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There is absolutely no rule of thumb for overclocking.
One CPU might handle 800+ MHz (806 MHz seems to be reached by benjamingwynn - nice speed!) and other might handle only 760-780 MHz stable for example. Don't forget that overclocking isn't an exact science. It more like an art!
It depends on many variables: the batch, the place in the wafer where you CPU came from, the voltage you're pumping, the cooling provided, etc.
Some CPU's don't need much voltage in order to scale speed, others need a big voltage increase in order to handle the extra speed. And there are others that simply don't scale well and can only handle weak overclocks.
And of course there is always a theoretical limit.
Anyone who says that he/she can overclock a 600MHz CPU to 1.5GHz lies with all the teeth and is an ignorant, with all due respect.
I know no CPU in the world that can overclock to 150%. Not even with extreme cooling (Liquid Nitrogen or other Subzero solutions) and other crazy mods. Now imagine this on a small device like a smartphone, where you can't properly change the cooling of the CPU in order to cope with the extra heat generated.
The phone would most likely burn in smokes.
I know a little bit about this matter because I have experience in overclocking PC CPU's. I know most about Intel CPU's (Dual and Quad-Cores, still haven't touched a hexa-core...), cooled on air or with liquid cooling.
The PC I work with every day has a Quad-Core CPU that is 3.2 GHz stock (QX9770) and is running at 4 GHz. It can handle more but the extra heat and voltage needed isn't worth the extra speed (and the accelerated degradation of the CPU).
Sorry for the offtopic guys but I had to reply to this anecdote.

miguelca said:
There is absolutely no rule of thumb for overclocking.
One CPU might handle 800+ MHz (806 MHz seems to be reached) and other might handle only 766 MHz stable for example. Don't forget that overclocking isn't an exact science. It more like an art!
It depends on many variables: the batch, the place in the wafer where you CPU came from, the voltage you're pumping, the cooling provided, etc.
Some CPU's don't need much voltage in order to scale speed, others need a big voltage increase in order to handle the extra speed. And there are others that simply don't scale well and handle weak overclocks.
And of course there is always a theoretical limit.
Anyone who says that he/she can overclock a 600MHz CPU to 1.5GHz lies with all the teeth and is an ignorant, with all due respect.
There is no CPU in the world that can overclock to 150%. Not even with extreme cooling (Liquid Nitrogen or other Subzero solutions) and other crazy mods. Now imagine this on a small device like a smartphone, where you can't properly change the cooling of the CPU in order to cope with the extra heat generated.
The phone would most likely burn in smokes.
I know a little bit about this matter because I have experience in overclocking PC CPU's. I know most about Intel CPU's (Dual and Quad-Cores, still haven't touched a hexa-core...), cooled on air or with liquid cooling.
The PC I work with every day has a Quad-Core CPU that is 3.2 GHz stock (QX9770) and is running at 4 GHz. It can handle more but the extra heat and voltage needed isn't worth the extra speed (and the accelerated degradation of the CPU).
Sorry for the offtopic guys but I had to reply to this anecdote.
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Totally agree.
great explanation for anyone wondering why their device won't overclock like somebody else's.

miguelca said:
There is absolutely no rule of thumb for overclocking.
One CPU might handle 800+ MHz (806 MHz seems to be reached by benjamingwynn - nice speed!) and other might handle only 760-780 MHz stable for example. Don't forget that overclocking isn't an exact science. It more like an art!
It depends on many variables: the batch, the place in the wafer where you CPU came from, the voltage you're pumping, the cooling provided, etc.
Some CPU's don't need much voltage in order to scale speed, others need a big voltage increase in order to handle the extra speed. And there are others that simply don't scale well and can only handle weak overclocks.
And of course there is always a theoretical limit.
Anyone who says that he/she can overclock a 600MHz CPU to 1.5GHz lies with all the teeth and is an ignorant, with all due respect.
I know no CPU in the world that can overclock to 150%. Not even with extreme cooling (Liquid Nitrogen or other Subzero solutions) and other crazy mods. Now imagine this on a small device like a smartphone, where you can't properly change the cooling of the CPU in order to cope with the extra heat generated.
The phone would most likely burn in smokes.
I know a little bit about this matter because I have experience in overclocking PC CPU's. I know most about Intel CPU's (Dual and Quad-Cores, still haven't touched a hexa-core...), cooled on air or with liquid cooling.
The PC I work with every day has a Quad-Core CPU that is 3.2 GHz stock (QX9770) and is running at 4 GHz. It can handle more but the extra heat and voltage needed isn't worth the extra speed (and the accelerated degradation of the CPU).
Sorry for the offtopic guys but I had to reply to this anecdote.
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Well said. This is very off topic but how would you overclock on windows? You have to mess about with the kernel right?
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Normally from the BIOS.
But you can also overclock from within windows using certain applications.
BIOS is the better option.

intel007 said:
Normally from the BIOS.
But you can also overclock from within windows using certain applications.
BIOS is the better option.
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I got a laptop and I bet you haven't seen the BIOS setup on a Sininia 510 or you would break down crying.
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benjamingwynn said:
I got a laptop and I bet you haven't seen the BIOS setup on a Sininia 510 or you would break down crying.
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A lot of laptops have crippled bios's so there is no overclock options mainly due to the heat/cooling factor.
Laptops run pretty hot already.
Does your laptop have any overclock/frequency Settings?

benjamingwynn said:
Well said. This is very off topic but how would you overclock on windows? You have to mess about with the kernel right?
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All the finetuning (voltages and so on) is done in the BIOS. My motherboard is actually designed for overclocking.
It's an "old" Asus Rampage Extreme.
You would be amazed with the amount of settings it has!
It also comes with Windows software that allows some realtime adjustments but the "core" lies in the BIOS.
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wildfire-chaos said:
You can't oveclock over 800 mhz. Ok maybe i lie, you can overclock over 800 mhz but it be hot like sun in core. sorry for my English
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806 here and never frozen once in months...Runs cool too. Once of the lucky ones I guess.

Yep I'm in the 806 club too.

intel007 said:
Yep I'm in the 806 club too.
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Mine also runes ok with 806 setting
miguelca i'am on 1055t oc'ed to 3.9 24h...(hyper 212+ push-pull)

I'm running on 768 and it is fast enough. You can feel that the device gets warmer with 806 and needs a bit more battery.

aigaming said:
Mine also runes ok with 806 setting
miguelca i'am on 1055t oc'ed to 3.9 24h...(hyper 212+ push-pull)
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Nice OC aigaming! but never forget that CPU's do degrade over time, even if some people tell you the contrary.
If you keep your CPU cool and don't give it too much voltage to "eat", then everything should be fine for a long time. Still don't abuse it too much, this is my personal advice.
You have a nice cooler and with a push pull config it should keep things cool.
Mine is an old Tuniq Tower 120 (copper block lapped by me when I still had lots of patience) with the stock fan changed. I don't use the fan controller that came with the cooler btw.
My CPU used to be cooled on liquid but I have a way too limited case in order to accomodate the radiators, pump, reservatory, etc. Sold all the gear.
Keeping my beast at 4GHz on air is VERY NICE.
Once again sorry for the offtopic guys. I had to reply to this. I know I could have used a PM but I'm in a hurry.
I wish the HTC 2.3.5 RUU would have a kernel with overclock option for the CPU...
Anyone available to change the HTC RUU with an overclockable kernel?
Or am I saying nonsense? Probably CRC check would fail and I could only flash it with temp-root, right?
Would really appreciate being able to push my CPU just a little bit more...

The only single-cores I know of that can actually reach 1.5Ghz overclocked are devices running a Qualcomm MSM7x30 (Desire Z) or an MSM8255 (Desire HD/Xperia Play/Sensation XL [stock speed, same processor]/etc).

Overheating

I've OC 1,8 GHz... I know that when playing games, phone's temperature raises, but when I'm playing NFS HP it almost burns me. What can I do with that? Does custom ROM may reduce the overheating?
And which ROM is the best?

reduce your overclock to 1.4ghz...really no need to go above 1.4ghz currently

yeah, but with 1,8 GHz is the best score in Antutu...

So in the end its just about benchmark score..

parkourz said:
yeah, but with 1,8 GHz is the best score in Antutu...
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Antutu means nothing......im not understanding this recent fad in basing your phone on Antutu etc etc maybe im just old school i dunno.....you asked about overheating and i gave you an answer......benchmark scores mean nothing at the end of the day....

Ok... and what about the best ROM?

search for it and install which u find its best for you
dont just say thanks hit thanks if i helped
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parkourz said:
Ok... and what about the best ROM?
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there is no "best" rom, rom's are down to personal preference. try them all see which you like.

Overhaeting at 1.8ghz while you are playin a game that stresses the RAM? Are you serious??? that is your phone's way of telling you that it cant take it, reduce the OC before it blows up...!

sumairmh said:
Overhaeting at 1.8ghz while you are playin a game that stresses the RAM? Are you serious??? that is your phone's way of telling you that it cant take it, reduce the OC before it blows up...!
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it wont blow up, but it does reduce the life of the CPU ALOT

Ehm... I'm searching for ROM with good battery and RAM tweaks, smooth and fast

Lloir said:
it wont blow up, but it does reduce the life of the CPU ALOT
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well metaphorically... ;-p
sorry i should be straight forward and not scare people like that...

I'm running the Titanium Kernel build#4 and occasionally take it up to 1.7GHz; the handset does get extremely hot (battery temps were somewhere in the range of 50C-60C, I think) so I never OC that high anymore. It probably cant be very good for it
As for "best" ROMs, it really does depend on what you prefer, but flashing the Titanium Kernel and running the Lionheart governor seems to give the best performance and battery life at a 1.4GHz OC, for me anyways.

8bitShift said:
I'm running the Titanium Kernel build#4 and occasionally take it up to 1.7GHz; the handset does get extremely hot (battery temps were somewhere in the range of 50C-60C, I think) so I never OC that high anymore. It probably cant be very good for it
As for "best" ROMs, it really does depend on what you prefer, but flashing the Titanium Kernel and running the Lionheart governor seems to give the best performance and battery life at a 1.4GHz OC, for me anyways.
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For me no heating on 1.7 ghz but when I was on 1.9 ghz then it was heating....
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Lloir said:
it wont blow up, but it does reduce the life of the CPU ALOT
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That is true. The CPU can withstand ~100°C but not your hand. Standard phones has plastick fascia, so you are not sensing the heat that much as in our aluminium V. The phone can withstand that much, the question is how long...
As for me, I use the phone at stock 1Ghz, and for me it is more than enough.

8bitShift said:
I'm running the Titanium Kernel build#4 and occasionally take it up to 1.7GHz; the handset does get extremely hot (battery temps were somewhere in the range of 50C-60C, I think) so I never OC that high anymore. It probably cant be very good for it
As for "best" ROMs, it really does depend on what you prefer, but flashing the Titanium Kernel and running the Lionheart governor seems to give the best performance and battery life at a 1.4GHz OC, for me anyways.
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If you're talking about governors, I want to ask you, which I/O scheduler is the best? Cause first time I'm seeing something like "I/O Scheduler"

parkourz said:
If you're talking about governors, I want to ask you, which I/O scheduler is the best? Cause first time I'm seeing something like "I/O Scheduler"
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For me sio is best....my friends xperia neo v heating more than my cell.....
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