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[HOW TO] underclock the HTC Diamond

hi here is a program how you can underclock an htc diamond.
download this program:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueClockControl.aspx
then install it and set the frequency!!
I hope you like it. i use it and it works wel!!
//nick

nickislauw said:
hi here is a program how you can underclock an htc diamond.
download this program:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueClockControl.aspx
then install it and set the frequency!!
I hope you like it. i use it and it works wel!!
//nick
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good ideea, but you can burn the microprocessor of phone.

DjMaryuslive said:
good ideea, but you can burn the microprocessor of phone.
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no you absolutely cant.. you dont OVERCLOCK your device.. ur UNDERclocking it. its good. im using it now and underclocked it and there are no problems.
//Nick

nickislauw said:
no you absolutely cant.. you dont OVERCLOCK your device.. ur UNDERclocking it. its good. im using it now and underclocked it and there are no problems.
//Nick
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I do not understand what is " UNDERclocking "

DjMaryuslive said:
I do not understand what is " UNDERclocking "
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ok look. the diamonds processor is 525mhz eh. with this tool you can underclock it. you can do it to like 300mhz or 256mhz. the device runs some slower but the battery life will be better you understand it now?
//Nick

The simple explanation is:
Underclocking: Makes the processor run at a speed lower than it is designed/certified for.
Overclocking: Makes the processor run at a speed higher than it is designed/certified for.
Edit: forgot to say the reason you may want to underclock is to save battery power. You would overclock to improve performance.

nickislauw said:
ok look. the diamonds processor is 525mhz eh. with this tool you can underclock it. you can do it to like 300mhz or 256mhz. the device runs some slower but the battery life will be better you understand it now?
//Nick
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is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone

DjMaryuslive said:
is wonderful.... but i think it might ruin cellphone,who knows.
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lol no it wont ruin. underclock is just safe but you got to watch out for overclocking.
//Nick

nickislauw said:
lol no it wont ruin. underclock is just safe but you got to watch out for overclocking.
//Nick
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is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone

DjMaryuslive said:
EDIT:
is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone
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i don't think so..i've underclocked my phone and all is working well but slow...but i've overclocked the phone to 660mhz when using android and still no damages

DjMaryuslive said:
EDIT:
is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone
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no it wont ruin because its not that slow.. its just a LITTLE slower. fast enough to run everythung smooth. believe me
//Nick

HELICOPTER88 said:
i don't think so..i've underclocked my phone and all is working well but slow...but i've overclocked the phone to 660mhz when using android and still no damages
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not overburden it is a tip from me to you / nu i-l suprasolicita este un sfat din partea mea pentru tine

underclocked
Underclocking your phone will do no damage to it at all
You can run Photoshop on a PC with a 1Ghz CPU and on a PC with a 3Ghz CPU
No damage done to the slower CPU, just not as fast

Keep in mind that this has close to NO effect at all when the phone is sleeping.
So, unless you're constantly using your phone - and you don't need the speed - there's no need for this!

im trying to code an app that will dynamically adjust clock speed depending on cpu load. so far i got it to take the cpu to 200mhz if cpu usage is under 50%.
i need more work to code in more clock states and tune the clock triggering thresholds.

[Q] Original ROM's CPU freq scaling range

Hi, just wanted to know what is original HTC's ROM CPU scaling range and what is its CPU governor. My guess is 245-528, ondemand - is that correct?

Sorry, I don't know myself, but I'd like to know this too! I've just installed JokerDroid on mine, and I want to set it to stock frequencies so I can improve the battery life.

I'm using 352-691 ondemand, but I think 748 is ok too.

I think the min is 352MHz. But again, I am not so sure. (I arrived at this value when I was on the Stock ROM and used Android System Info which shows the various CPU frequencies and the time periods they operate on that frequency)

zigee said:
I'm using 352-691 ondemand, but I think 748 is ok too.
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Isn't the max. for this device "528"

xXxeXtreme said:
Isn't the max. for this device "528"
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Custom ROM's (Or, more appropriately - Custom Kernels) allow you to set a CPU Speed upto 768MHz.
BUT - The performance increase is not as great as the speed increase shows. So, if you do overclock, don't keep huge expectations.

zigee said:
I'm using 352-691 ondemand, but I think 748 is ok too.
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I am running on 710 max, some people run on 768 max. But apparantly it is phone related because some people can perfectly run on 768 whilst I read a few days ago from a person here whose wildfire started force closing things around 710 or one higher or so.
Try a bit yourself which works for you. There are benchmarks that you can let run to see how often an error will occur approximately I have no link myself but I know a bud of mine did that to try how high he could go

At 691, some apps force closed, so I'm back to 595. It was stable for me.

gues that the 352MHz is the stock minimum then. There should be a noticable battery life increase when 122MHz is my current IDLE clock huh?
Now Iam running 122-710MHz on stock HTC ROM, very stable. If I set the frequency above 710MHz the scaling become unstable uner LOAD sometimes and dropping to 480MHz.
Using jacob kernel v4.

overclocking - my questions for understanding

So I thought about overclocking. I never overclocked any CPU by now. No PC cpus, no mobile cpus
I just always read: Do not overclock! More heat production, more energy costing and of course: probably decrease device life-time and may damage the phone.
On the opposite there is: more cpu-power. WFS seems to be able to get OC'd to 800 MHz (which is 200 above standard and only 200 below Desire)
So, what can you tell me about the above conclusions?
Next question: Do I need overclocking, or is it just to win a p.... length comparing ?
I'm on stock European rom 2.3.5. I know I need custom kernel. which one I could use, how to flash? Which apps do I need furthermore?

theq86 said:
So I thought about overclocking. I never overclocked any CPU by now. No PC cpus, no mobile cpus
I just always read: Do not overclock! More heat production, more energy costing and of course: probably decrease device life-time and may damage the phone.
On the opposite there is: more cpu-power. WFS seems to be able to get OC'd to 800 MHz (which is 200 above standard and only 200 below Desire)
So, what can you tell me about the above conclusions?
Next question: Do I need overclocking, or is it just to win a p.... length comparing ?
I'm on stock European rom 2.3.5. I know I need custom kernel. which one I could use, how to flash? Which apps do I need furthermore?
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No it's not just for a pissing contest.
Jikantaru's new kernel will allow you to set your clock to vary between 120 Mhz and 806 Mhz although 787 Mhz tends to work for those unlucky enough to have phones that freeze up at 806 Mhz.
The CPU doesn't run balls out all the time. It speedsteps as needed to save battery power.
You flash the kernel that you download to your SD card through CWM Recovery's Install zip from SD card feature.
Reboot and you now have Ext4 support for Link2SD, etc, and overclocking capabilities as well as a host of other kernel tweaks to handle memory management, etc.
As far as programs to set the clock with? SetCPU, Rom Toolbox, Nofrills CPU, Antutu CPU, etc.
I would choose "Smartass" as your governor and 120 and 806 as your min and max CPU settings and choose to set it at boot.
That's just my preference.
I personally bought Rom Toolbox Pro and manage the CPU settings through it.
It's got a host of other cool features all in one place and jrummy updates it very often with new fixes, features, etc.

thanks for that.
so what about damaging the cpu or the device? is there nothing to worry about?
and what is a govener? do I need it in addition to setcpu ?

theq86 said:
thanks for that.
so what about damaging the cpu or the device? is there nothing to worry about?
and what is a govener? do I need it in addition to setcpu ?
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The governor is the method by which the phone plans it's stepping up and down of frequencies. Smartass is a tried and true good combination of power savings and stepping to the plate with high clock frequencies when needed.
No you won't need anything extra. It's one of the settings in any of those programs.

Sorry for asking again:
It won't damage my device or burn the cpu as overclocking a normal PC CPU would do?
edit: using nofrills now. Seems to work.

theq86 said:
Sorry for asking again:
It won't damage my device or burn the cpu as overclocking a normal PC CPU would do?
edit: using nofrills now. Seems to work.
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Overclocking comes with no promises man. Mine's been overclocked since August so that's all I have to go on.

There is always a danger or risk when overclocking. The manufacturers determine the safe frequencies, temperatures, voltage, etc. based on scientific experiments in different environments. However, with that said, obviously, they are not infallable either. The best way to determine your risk is to think about what conditions you'll be using it in the most and what kind of stress it'll put on your phone's internals. Do some research and see what other people have problems with and under what kind of stress was the phone. Use common sense. Things like raising voltage and frequencies raise the temperature of the phone's internals, also. So, in turn, do you also have a case on the device that retains heat? Do you live in an humid/dry or warm/cold area? Do you do a lot of multitasking? Are you constantly on it? Hope this helps.
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using XDA App

[Q] CPU Frequency suggestions

is it true that over-clocking can damage my phone??
I like it when it's fast enough to play any games but i'm a little worried that OC might damage my phone..
do you have any suggestion about the right minimum and maximum frequency??(sorry 4 my english)

deosantos said:
is it true that over-clocking can damage my phone??
I like it when it's fast enough to play any games but i'm a little worried that OC might damage my phone..
do you have any suggestion about the right minimum and maximum frequency??(sorry 4 my english)
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it really depends, im using CM10 on 134-1024 Mhz. Most the games are smooth. Its safe to OC up to 1.4 GHz imo. 1.6 GHz and 1.8 GHz might damage over time and a lot of usage at max frequency

OC is always bad and dangerous, no matter what clocks you use.
Besides, OC doesn't give any major performance boost, you can barely see it.

Someguyfromhell said:
OC is always bad and dangerous, no matter what clocks you use.
Besides, OC doesn't give any major performance boost, you can barely see it.
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To add on, constant OC = spoiling your phones.
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TheHaso said:
it really depends, im using CM10 on 134-1024 Mhz. Most the games are smooth. Its safe to OC up to 1.4 GHz imo. 1.6 GHz and 1.8 GHz might damage over time and a lot of usage at max frequency
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so it's 100% safe if i OC it up to 1.4?

Someguyfromhell said:
OC is always bad and dangerous, no matter what clocks you use.
Besides, OC doesn't give any major performance boost, you can barely see it.
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oh,so u mean OC is not that useful at all?should I just stay ay 1024 then?

Why bother overclocking something that is outdated specification wise? And with an single core, the performance boost is non-existant because the core will be driven hard and generate heat and voila.. RIP!
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deosantos said:
oh,so u mean OC is not that useful at all?should I just stay ay 1024 then?
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Just stick with device default, don't have to set CPU frequency
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deosantos said:
oh,so u mean OC is not that useful at all?should I just stay ay 1024 then?
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use memory setting app from playstore without overclock cpu

well thanks for the reply,i'm new here so I don't know how to quote your replies yet..
one last question,,have you ever heard of somone who broke his/her phone because of overclocking???

deosantos said:
well thanks for the reply,i'm new here so I don't know how to quote your replies yet..
one last question,,have you ever heard of somone who broke his/her phone because of overclocking???
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oh yes, because phone cpu have bad support to overclock. Desktop pc more better, but this it's other story...

deosantos said:
well thanks for the reply,i'm new here so I don't know how to quote your replies yet..
one last question,,have you ever heard of somone who broke his/her phone because of overclocking???
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It's not a matter of hearing it from someone. It will definitely happen if you overclock your phone since increasing the maximum frequency from the design limit will fry your phone.

popthosegaskets said:
It's not a matter of hearing it from someone. It will definitely happen if you overclock your phone since increasing the maximum frequency from the design limit will fry your phone.
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oh,ok..well i guess i shouldn't bother altering the frequency..thanks for the help.!!:laugh:

Can I over clock CPU?

What I have to do to over clock my CPU from 1.8 Gz to 2.2Gz I'm on bootleggers unofficial ROM , any one who knows ?

Flash a kernel that supports overclocking. Then use an app of your choice to set the max frequency.
I assume you know the risk.

nyasaystheneko said:
Flash a kernel that supports overclocking. Then use an app of your choice to set the max frequency.
I assume you know the risk.
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InsigniuX kernel supports over clocking.

Rykywype said:
InsigniuX kernel supports over clocking.
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no only kirks and twistloop. as far as i know.

No-Name kernel.

For miui 10 : Kirks kernel, KangarooX Kernel,Ancient Kernel

nakulp said:
For miui 10 : Kirks kernel, KangarooX Kernel,Ancient Kernel
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Okay thanks buddy u r great

Overclock your cpu and watch your device die faster due to overheating.

The Restless Soul said:
Overclock your cpu and watch your device die faster due to overheating.
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Faster as opposite to what..like 2 years vs 5 years? Haha!
Max thermals reach 46-48 which is only 2 or 3 degrees higher than stock & the temps/cpu clock anyway get limited by the thermal engine automatically after that.

nakulp said:
Faster as opposite to what..like 2 years vs 5 years? Haha!
Max thermals reach 46-48 which is only 2 or 3 degrees higher than stock & the temps/cpu clock anyway get limited by the thermal engine automatically after that.
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Overclock will affect battery performance

SunilSuni said:
Overclock will affect battery performance
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i think he is aware of that

nakulp said:
Faster as opposite to what..like 2 years vs 5 years? Haha!
Max thermals reach 46-48 which is only 2 or 3 degrees higher than stock & the temps/cpu clock anyway get limited by the thermal engine automatically after that.
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It depends. If you do a full overclock you can risk killing your motherboard faster.
Slightly overclocks don't affect with nothing if the cpu temperature increases with 1-4°c.
Still, getting better cooling on your phone is a much better choice. Changing the thermal paste etc etc.

This is irrelevant to the op's request/question.
I dunno why a simple question thread couldn't be followed up by discussion of simple answers?
Look, It doesn't matter even if it destroys the phone cuz that's not the point of the thread but if you were insisting to be pedantic then that still could have been added in the end but only if you'd chosen to atleast answer something relevant at first = being relevant.
Ultimately these types of posts/replies are no different than spamming say a redmi forum with lenovo or iphone related questions..
Regardless of the above, oc on current kernels is not dangerous as such because there is no alteration/upping of voltages manually.
*** There is also a fixed "setpoint" of temperatures, frequencies,voltages etc in the inbuilt thermal engine profiles which no simple oc of frequencies is going to get past through unless one decides to disable it manually . If the temperatures reach even the lowest thresholds of preconfigured "high" levels then the chipset will start to downclock at once in fixed steppings***