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hi here is a program how you can underclock an htc diamond.
download this program:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueClockControl.aspx
then install it and set the frequency!!
I hope you like it. i use it and it works wel!!
//nick
nickislauw said:
hi here is a program how you can underclock an htc diamond.
download this program:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueClockControl.aspx
then install it and set the frequency!!
I hope you like it. i use it and it works wel!!
//nick
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good ideea, but you can burn the microprocessor of phone.
DjMaryuslive said:
good ideea, but you can burn the microprocessor of phone.
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no you absolutely cant.. you dont OVERCLOCK your device.. ur UNDERclocking it. its good. im using it now and underclocked it and there are no problems.
//Nick
nickislauw said:
no you absolutely cant.. you dont OVERCLOCK your device.. ur UNDERclocking it. its good. im using it now and underclocked it and there are no problems.
//Nick
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I do not understand what is " UNDERclocking "
DjMaryuslive said:
I do not understand what is " UNDERclocking "
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ok look. the diamonds processor is 525mhz eh. with this tool you can underclock it. you can do it to like 300mhz or 256mhz. the device runs some slower but the battery life will be better you understand it now?
//Nick
The simple explanation is:
Underclocking: Makes the processor run at a speed lower than it is designed/certified for.
Overclocking: Makes the processor run at a speed higher than it is designed/certified for.
Edit: forgot to say the reason you may want to underclock is to save battery power. You would overclock to improve performance.
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ok look. the diamonds processor is 525mhz eh. with this tool you can underclock it. you can do it to like 300mhz or 256mhz. the device runs some slower but the battery life will be better you understand it now?
//Nick
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is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone
DjMaryuslive said:
is wonderful.... but i think it might ruin cellphone,who knows.
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lol no it wont ruin. underclock is just safe but you got to watch out for overclocking.
//Nick
nickislauw said:
lol no it wont ruin. underclock is just safe but you got to watch out for overclocking.
//Nick
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is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone
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EDIT:
is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone
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i don't think so..i've underclocked my phone and all is working well but slow...but i've overclocked the phone to 660mhz when using android and still no damages
DjMaryuslive said:
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is wonderful.... but along with reducing CPU speed and run applications on your phone, you overloading CPU and i think it might ruin cellphone
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no it wont ruin because its not that slow.. its just a LITTLE slower. fast enough to run everythung smooth. believe me
//Nick
HELICOPTER88 said:
i don't think so..i've underclocked my phone and all is working well but slow...but i've overclocked the phone to 660mhz when using android and still no damages
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not overburden it is a tip from me to you / nu i-l suprasolicita este un sfat din partea mea pentru tine
underclocked
Underclocking your phone will do no damage to it at all
You can run Photoshop on a PC with a 1Ghz CPU and on a PC with a 3Ghz CPU
No damage done to the slower CPU, just not as fast
Keep in mind that this has close to NO effect at all when the phone is sleeping.
So, unless you're constantly using your phone - and you don't need the speed - there's no need for this!
im trying to code an app that will dynamically adjust clock speed depending on cpu load. so far i got it to take the cpu to 200mhz if cpu usage is under 50%.
i need more work to code in more clock states and tune the clock triggering thresholds.
I get having it be higher than necessary to avoid bugs... but the 153mhz CORE slot can go to 90mV down from 8-900. That's 1/10th of the original voltage. Why would Google/Samsung ship it using so much more than what it needs?
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I get having it be higher than necessary to avoid bugs... but the 153mhz CORE slot can go to 90mV down from 8-900. That's 1/10th of the original voltage. Why would Google/Samsung ship it using so much more than what it needs?
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Those are MAX voltages...and I call hogwash on the 90mV, unless you are disabling smart reflex. Then I would want to see some actual proof.
Lower than 70mV is unstable. I didn't disable smartreflex, but even if I do it makes no difference. Maybe someone else can share their lowest voltage for this. I'm sure I'm undervolting it as it becomes quite unstable if I input 60mV, so obviously something's happening.
Yes, they're max voltages, but even with SR it doesn't go below 886 or something.
I find that tough to swallow. Did you actually verify the voltage with a kernel log?
What's the easiest way to do that? I'd like to confirm it myself. Like I said, I know it's doing something because at 50-60mV there are instant issues.
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What's the easiest way to do that? I'd like to confirm it myself. Like I said, I know it's doing something because at 50-60mV there are instant issues.
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If memory serves, dmesg will log it.
Yikes. A lot of output and no 'grep'. Give me a minute.
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Lower than 70mV is unstable. I didn't disable smartreflex, but even if I do it makes no difference. Maybe someone else can share their lowest voltage for this. I'm sure I'm undervolting it as it becomes quite unstable if I input 60mV, so obviously something's happening.
Yes, they're max voltages, but even with SR it doesn't go below 886 or something.
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You have to disable smart reflex for your voltage settings to work. It isn't going down to 90mv. Disable smart reflex and then set that, I doubt your phone will run.
Voltage Nominal=75000, Calib=75---, margin=38000
Seems to be the most relevant. And yeah, I've got it at 75 right now.
And I've disabled SR as well, it doesn't change anything. And the voltage settings definitely do work witohut disabling it as, like I said, going too far down will cause a crash. So obviously it's doing something.
Have you guys tried undervolting that far?
And I'm doing this with franco kernel updater. The widget is showing the Core voltage to be 75.
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Voltage Nominal=75000, Calib=75---, margin=38000
Seems to be the most relevant. And yeah, I've got it at 75 right now.
And I've disabled SR as well, it doesn't change anything. And the voltage settings definitely do work witohut disabling it as, like I said, going too far down will cause a crash. So obviously it's doing something.
Have you guys tried undervolting that far?
And I'm doing this with franco kernel updater. The widget is showing the Core voltage to be 75.
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thats 900mV and 750mV. and there is a large variation between individual devices. some can handle much less and some cant handle a tiny bit less. but undervolting too much will end up using more battery to achieve what it needs to achieve from working longer/harder to get there. 90mV without or even with smart relex will cause your phone to freeze then reboot.
but undervolting too much will end up using more battery to achieve what it needs to achieve from working longer/harder to get there
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Why? I know that underclocking would do this - the time to finish a task at a lower clockspeed is longer.
I don't see how lowering the mV can possibly increase battery usage.
90mV without or even with smart relex will cause your phone to freeze then reboot.
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But mine isn't freezing until I put it at 60-70,V.
thats 900mV and 750mV
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Not according to the app.
Hopefully this attached a screenshot.
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Hopefully this attached a screenshot.
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no, you are right. i didnt see that you mentioned core. after looking at the original post i see the core now. anyways, at that low a voltage it will operate, but wont be fully functional.
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anyways, i dont know what that app is reporting, but franco kernel can only be set to a minimum of 830mV. looks like a mistake or a bug in his app. im gonna email him.. https://bitbucket.org/franciscofran...e9aa9b26/arch/arm/mach-omap2/voltage.h#cl-184
It seems functional... I mean, clearly the GPU is working (and at that voltage according to the app) because the screen is on/ not artifacting.
Is it just incorrectly reporting it? Is there another way to confirm it? Dmesg was not clear.
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It seems functional... I mean, clearly the GPU is working (and at that voltage according to the app) because the screen is on/ not artifacting.
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check the link out that i just posted. franco kernel can only be set to a minimum of 830mV, the app is reporting wrong. its setting, but not actually setting https://bitbucket.org/franciscofran...e9aa9b26/arch/arm/mach-omap2/voltage.h#cl-184
So what is it actually setting it to? Because if I set it *too* low it still does give me errors... so how can it be both?
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So what is it actually setting it to? Because if I set it *too* low it still does give me errors... so how can it be both?
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i think it gets set to 830. i let francisco know, we'll see what he says.
Alright. It's just weird. Because if anything under 830 is setting it to 830, and 830 is stable (because 95 shows stable) than how would 830 be unstable when the UI shows it as 40.
I mean, 90mV is kinda insane. It would definitely make sense if it were more like 830. It's just confusing.
Hopefully francisco can explain.
simms22 said:
check the link out that i just posted. franco kernel can only be set to a minimum of 830mV, the app is reporting wrong. its setting, but not actually setting https://bitbucket.org/franciscofran...e9aa9b26/arch/arm/mach-omap2/voltage.h#cl-184
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Hmm, then why does setting an absurd voltage like 200mV cause an instant reboot while I can set it to 830mV and it runs fine?
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Yeah I can set it to 830mV and it runes fine. No issues until I drop to 60mV. I haven't reached a limit for any of them.
is it true that over-clocking can damage my phone??
I like it when it's fast enough to play any games but i'm a little worried that OC might damage my phone..
do you have any suggestion about the right minimum and maximum frequency??(sorry 4 my english)
deosantos said:
is it true that over-clocking can damage my phone??
I like it when it's fast enough to play any games but i'm a little worried that OC might damage my phone..
do you have any suggestion about the right minimum and maximum frequency??(sorry 4 my english)
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it really depends, im using CM10 on 134-1024 Mhz. Most the games are smooth. Its safe to OC up to 1.4 GHz imo. 1.6 GHz and 1.8 GHz might damage over time and a lot of usage at max frequency
OC is always bad and dangerous, no matter what clocks you use.
Besides, OC doesn't give any major performance boost, you can barely see it.
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OC is always bad and dangerous, no matter what clocks you use.
Besides, OC doesn't give any major performance boost, you can barely see it.
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To add on, constant OC = spoiling your phones.
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TheHaso said:
it really depends, im using CM10 on 134-1024 Mhz. Most the games are smooth. Its safe to OC up to 1.4 GHz imo. 1.6 GHz and 1.8 GHz might damage over time and a lot of usage at max frequency
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so it's 100% safe if i OC it up to 1.4?
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OC is always bad and dangerous, no matter what clocks you use.
Besides, OC doesn't give any major performance boost, you can barely see it.
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oh,so u mean OC is not that useful at all?should I just stay ay 1024 then?
Why bother overclocking something that is outdated specification wise? And with an single core, the performance boost is non-existant because the core will be driven hard and generate heat and voila.. RIP!
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deosantos said:
oh,so u mean OC is not that useful at all?should I just stay ay 1024 then?
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Just stick with device default, don't have to set CPU frequency
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deosantos said:
oh,so u mean OC is not that useful at all?should I just stay ay 1024 then?
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use memory setting app from playstore without overclock cpu
well thanks for the reply,i'm new here so I don't know how to quote your replies yet..
one last question,,have you ever heard of somone who broke his/her phone because of overclocking???
deosantos said:
well thanks for the reply,i'm new here so I don't know how to quote your replies yet..
one last question,,have you ever heard of somone who broke his/her phone because of overclocking???
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oh yes, because phone cpu have bad support to overclock. Desktop pc more better, but this it's other story...
deosantos said:
well thanks for the reply,i'm new here so I don't know how to quote your replies yet..
one last question,,have you ever heard of somone who broke his/her phone because of overclocking???
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It's not a matter of hearing it from someone. It will definitely happen if you overclock your phone since increasing the maximum frequency from the design limit will fry your phone.
popthosegaskets said:
It's not a matter of hearing it from someone. It will definitely happen if you overclock your phone since increasing the maximum frequency from the design limit will fry your phone.
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oh,ok..well i guess i shouldn't bother altering the frequency..thanks for the help.!!:laugh:
Hi,
i'm really sure someone of you allready changed the clock rate. What frequenz can you suggest, if i want more akku and the device to be a bit more smooth. Especially the market is a bit laggy.
And what app do you use.
Thanks
HandyBesitzer said:
Hi,
i'm really sure someone of you allready changed the clock rate. What frequenz can you suggest, if i want more akku and the device to be a bit more smooth. Especially the market is a bit laggy.
And what app do you use.
Thanks
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I used to have 1113 Mhz. The thing is, clock speed is not the only thing that counts.
abaaaabbbb63 said:
I used to have 1113 Mhz. The thing is, clock speed is not the only thing that counts.
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And doesn't damage the Desire??
What about the akku?? did this shorten the runtime??
Did you use SetCPU here from XDA??
HandyBesitzer said:
And doesn't damage the Desire??
What about the akku?? did this shorten the runtime??
Did you use SetCPU here from XDA??
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1113 isn't much of a difference, but still makes some impression on JB ROMs and battery, of course.
Overclocking won't shorten the time, unless you think of your Desire as a demiurge.
And yes, we all use SetCPU for the job, basically because it's got profiles thing, which really influences battery life, give that you know what you're doing.
Hi everybody,
I want to know if we can overclock our Snapdragon 808 to 2GHz (ARM A72 cores) with a modified kernel.
Also, If somebody is going to work on this challenge.
Thanks!!
Androsesp said:
Hi everybody,
I want to know if we can overclock our Snapdragon 808 to 2GHz (ARM A72 cores) with a modified kernel.
Also, If somebody is going to work on this challenge.
Thanks!!
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A57 cluster, probably yes. I'm also working on a kernel, but I intensely dislike Overclocking because it isn't all that useful. The key to performance is with optimisation, not with raw power. So I'm most likely not going to include it, sorry.
What about underclocking and/or undervolting?
I think performance is good enough as it is, but would like to get better battery life.
I would like to be able to undervolt in order to relieve the bugging high temp warning. This phone rarely uses max performance. So, overclocking is not really a priority. Maybe a custom hotplug.
Crappy cpu. No point messing with it.
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GUGUITOMTG4 said:
I would like to be able to undervolt in order to relieve the bugging high temp warning. This phone rarely uses max performance. So, overclocking is not really a priority. Maybe a custom hotplug.
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Hotplugging has been dropped not long ago. You'd basically need to reinvent it. Plus it costs more power than it would save
And what about undervolting to prevent excessive heat, @mythos234?
yea i guess undervolting is the only benefit here coz 2 ghz wont be hard to achieve but getting that overheating msg sooner aint worth it...
next thing u know is accessory back plates with mini fans to keep the phone cool...
seriously tho what good is the extra power for ? the phone is already fast with the correct setup (not that i saw any lag when it was stock)
anyone knows how to see the cpu binning in this phone?
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And what about undervolting to prevent excessive heat, @mythos234?
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Excessive Heat?
mythos234 said:
Excessive Heat?
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A number of people have gotten over-temperature messages, sometimes with the phones even shutting down.
This has been reported with using navigation, I believe, and I know people have reported it when shooting video. High screen brightness is likely a contributor. But there are examples of the phones running too warm.
Personally, I'd be more interested in cooler running, and longer battery life, rather than increased peak performance. So underclocking, if anything.
Well, the overclocking is not necessary, but is an opportunity to know the limits of the chipset. Moreover, with it we could know if we can make undervolting to our phones and make it more battery efficient with an underclocking kernel, when we need it.
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A number of people have gotten over-temperature messages, sometimes with the phones even shutting down.
This has been reported with using navigation, I believe, and I know people have reported it when shooting video. High screen brightness is likely a contributor. But there are examples of the phones running too warm.
Personally, I'd be more interested in cooler running, and longer battery life, rather than increased peak performance. So underclocking, if anything.
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Happens to me too when gaming. The problem I observe is that Indeed, it is not excessive heat. But LG thinks otherwise.
You can actually underclock using Kernel Auditor and disable cores. Unless you meant Undervolting.
mythos234 said:
Excessive Heat?
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Wanna check out periscope and comment back ? Atleast I know that app will push the phone to its limits.
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Currently using Kernel Adiutor to disable both A57 cores and the phone screen does not heat up like before... Battery life has improved from what i saw yersterday. Continuing testing today. Only problem i have is the damn phone will enable one of the A57 cores after a while which i dont like. I need my settings to stick.
Any Kernel Dev know which files are causing this? Tab 3 had something like this but a couple of files changed solved the non sticking settings on cpu.
Overclocking/underclocking sure but just disabling cores would work for most.
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mythos234 said:
Excessive Heat?
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lol, you're funny.
marcadam said:
lol, you're funny.
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I haven't had any popups or heat related reboots, so I was wondering what the matter is here.
On every phone I see complaints over heat so I wondered if something is to it here or if it's the usual. And if there are overheating warnings and shutdowns, then there might be indeed something in the bush.
Try charging your phone in the car whilst using google maps to get to an important meeting, and then take a call just for good measure............and boom, there you have your own little meltdown.
marcadam said:
Try charging your phone in the car whilst using google maps to get to an important meeting, and then take a call just for good measure............and boom, there you have your own little meltdown.
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That happens on every phone I ever had though. It's advised to not use a device while charging at all, so if you stress it to 120% while charging, of course it heats up..
@mythos234 is a pleasure to have you here (speaking as xiaomi mi2s owner too xD)
What Temps do you reach using cpu intensive apps?