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[Q] Have we hit the limi (true overclockin?)

I know we can dynamically scale our CPUs and have unlocked the frequencies it is allowed to scale to...
But when [and how] are we going to get cracking at really OCing? Im sure we can hit 1.4 or so? Any thought?
I don't want any 'omg blow up im an idiot' posts. Serious ****

Not saying we can't...but 1.4 would be a 40% increase in power... I doubt we can reach those numbers in a safe daily use way.

Being that half the Evos can't run 1.19 stable..... Good luck
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surrealmethod said:
Not saying we can't...but 1.4 would be a 40% increase in power... I doubt we can reach those numbers in a safe daily use way.
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I ran 768 on occasion and 710 all day every day on my Hero.. 710 is roughly a 34.5% increase so I would bet we (by we I mean they, the people who are smart enough to understand kernel dev) could get close to 1.4..

I run my palm pre at 1ghz that's 50% more, im sure one day it will happen
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Doesn't the extra heat generated hurt with no way to add cooling? (I'm talking if you go 40-50% OC)

surrealmethod said:
Not saying we can't...but 1.4 would be a 40% increase in power... I doubt we can reach those numbers in a safe daily use way.
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1.4 is not a 40% increase in power. You have to bump voltages to reach that kind of speed, which means even more power consumed.

Unless I'm wrong, doesn't 1000×1.4 (40%) = 1400MHz (1.4GHz)?
AzN1337c0d3r said:
1.4 is not a 40% increase in power. You have to bump voltages to reach that kind of speed, which means even more power consumed.
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oskinosmee said:
I run my palm pre at 1ghz that's 50% more, im sure one day it will happen
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Pre is 600 MHz stock so thats not a 50% increase, its more like 64%, and the Pre hit 1.2 GHz, which is double. Be nice to see some ridiculous kernels for the people (not me) who have 3 extended batteries and just want to show off, but I'm satisfied running at 1.19 GHz daily, I'm sure if i left it at 1 GHz i wouldn't even notice the difference.

I was running 1.3 on the Droid full time with no problem.

Tilde88 said:
I know we can dynamically scale our CPUs and have unlocked the frequencies it is allowed to scale to...
But when [and how] are we going to get cracking at really OCing? Im sure we can hit 1.4 or so? Any thought?
I don't want any 'omg blow up im an idiot' posts. Serious ****
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right about now it's looking like 1.19 is the max where you will still see performance boost with it being detrimental to the system. i'm not so much worried about cooling. i recently threw a hdd in a fire that exceeded 1000ºf and the chips didn't burn. so i really dont think he have to worry too much about frying the circuit board. it's just what they can be increased to and still increase real performance

[Q] Safe Overclocking speed

How fast can I overclock my chip to in my Rhod100 safely?
I'm using OCT I.5

CPUs are all different from on another. A "safe" speed for one person may not be for another. Best bet is to experiment by trying the next increment up, and test to see if there is any instability, SOD, etc. If everything looks okay, try the next increment up.
Some people on the overclocking thread seem to be having good luck at the lower-700s, with dynamic OC'ing turned off. I have mine set for the default 652 MHz setting (but with dynamic OC'ing off) just to be on the safe side.

You do not increase voltage, so overclocking to any value should be safe. In the worst case you just hang the device, but a softreset fixes this. I found the 710Mhz frequency to be 100% reliable.

Thanks Guys. Been a big help

i dunno, depends on software and rom. i personally do 768 no dynamic, all settings 0 at 1000ms on energy cookie 23138 sep 14. no reset needed for a month or so. and when it did it was user error lol.
but u just gotta play with it. expect to reset a few times. and id keep all settings on 0 at 1000 ms. just me.

Jackos said:
You do not increase voltage, so overclocking to any value should be safe. In the worst case you just hang the device, but a softreset fixes this. I found the 710Mhz frequency to be 100% reliable.
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710 is the most reliable ive seen from public opinion

I did a bit of research and found out the chip is capable of 850mhz.
I've got mine running at 806.4 and seems to be runnning fine. I switched the stepping off. Feels awesome.

uncleswoop said:
i dunno, depends on software and rom. i personally do 768 no dynamic, all settings 0 at 1000ms on energy cookie 23138 sep 14. no reset needed for a month or so. and when it did it was user error lol.
but u just gotta play with it. expect to reset a few times. and id keep all settings on 0 at 1000 ms. just me.
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How can no reset be needed for a month if your rom version is only 3 days old?

enahs_ said:
How can no reset be needed for a month if your rom version is only 3 days old?
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i lol'd

enahs_ said:
How can no reset be needed for a month if your rom version is only 3 days old?
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i meant from reset needed from sod's or other issues.
energy has been my rom of choice for quite some time. every version has been fully compatible for me with oct. thats what i meant to say

Can someone link to the overclocking software? I'd like to give it a try.
How about battery life and temperature? Does overclocking to 710 reduce battery life and increase the phone's operating temperature? If so, by how much?

gromky said:
Can someone link to the overclocking software? I'd like to give it a try.
How about battery life and temperature? Does overclocking to 710 reduce battery life and increase the phone's operating temperature? If so, by how much?
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There Are 2 Overclocking Apps You Can Find Them
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290
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Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374

Does overclocking the phone kill your battery? I already only get two days of battery life.

Yes, I noticed decreased battery life with 710Mhz OC.

gromky said:
Does overclocking the phone kill your battery? I already only get two days of battery life.
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I get three days with NRG ROM, but I have pretty light use. However with OC it is no worse than before.

Also using Energy ROM, have experimented overclocking at 650 MHz, and now 710 MHz for the past few days (based on suggestions in this tread, actually!). Haven't noticed a significant reduction in battery life. I get around 2 days also. 2 days has been pretty typical on the Rhodium for me, with the stock ROM and Energy, and moderate usage. Most comments on the main overclocking thread seem to indicate that battery life is not greatly reduced. Just anecdotal comments, of course. Don't think anyone has done any halfway scientific testing.

~8mA more during sleep
~40mA more during stress
That's why you don't notice a big difference during "normal usage". Try not to use the device for some days (I know it's hard ;D) with overclocking and without so you will notice the difference. Like I said in another thread: We do not measure the battery life while using the device - because this isn't measurable and doesn't give any reliable results.
It's like the percent battery driver - any clever person should notice that this cannot be described as precise.

Im using 787MHz dynamic oc with no problem at all. It doesnt seem to affect battery life either, but then again Im not using Sense.

Jackos said:
~8mA more during sleep
~40mA more during stress
That's why you don't notice a big difference during "normal usage". Try not to use the device for some days (I know it's hard ;D) with overclocking and without so you will notice the difference. Like I said in another thread: We do not measure the battery life while using the device - because this isn't measurable and doesn't give any reliable results.
It's like the percent battery driver - any clever person should notice that this cannot be described as precise.
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I'm not exactly sure what point you are making. My observation is that with or without OC, the length of time my phone can be used before recharging is approximately the same, i.e., I don't detect any decrease in battery discharge.
Since my usage patterns are the same for both cases, this variable drops from the equation.

So, you need to run the program every time the phone boots? Or does the program remember its settings?

please help

I have three evo's two are box stock and one is rooted, and is running cyanogen mod 7 kernel and rom.
The problem is the linpak and quadrant score on the modified evo are actually lower than the stock evo. For example the stock evo is doing a linpak of 30 while my modified evo is only doing about 21. Likewise my quadrant score tends to be pretty low. I have to clock my modified evo to the max to pass the stock evo.
What gives why is my evo overclocked to 1.13 with custom kernel and rom slower? I set the profile to performance.
A while back while using the tiamat kernel I set my overclock to 1.2 and the phone just froze and shutdown did I damage the phone. This happened several times because it kept on rebooting. Today I set the clock 1.190 and the phone froze and shutdown again. Right now I am running the Cyanogen Kernel and no issues so far but why is my phone so slow. Both evos don't have much apps at all only one or two(excluding the stock sprint apps on the stock evo)
Thanks for your help

so what do u need to overclock ur phone for? does it dial faster? can u talk and hear phone calls faster? does it ring faster? I don't understand????

I forgot to mention that on quadrant my modified evo ranks below evo 2.2+ on that quadrant score chart. Is my phone defective?

{ParanoiA} said:
so what do u need to overclock ur phone for? does it dial faster? can u talk and hear phone calls faster? does it ring faster? I don't understand????
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I'm just curious and want to learn more. Why do you guys overclock?
I see people avg's with my my current setting are around 40. Im thinking defective phone.

Should I flash the stock rom back on and un-root and bring the phone back?

rebooted the phone and now the score is just getting crazy low 6.509 mflops

Overclocking an EVO doesn't really do all that much. It's only 200 MHz more.

Desperately need help the touch screen doesnt work and this was all the sudden

Overclocking can cause some instability, like the locked-up screen. Pull the battery and wipe cache and dalvik.
And benchmarks aren't worth anything, they can be easily tricked. Real-world usage matters. Personally, I underclock for more battery
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Search the general section for supercharge script. Go to first thread and then go to original thread linked in there. Follow steps and dl update8. Run it as explained. Enjoy ur extremely faster phone. It changes memory management and stuff

Thanks for your helps guys.
Tropicalbrit your right. I really forgot the point of the phone is to see how well it works daily. In all reality I love my evo even though its not getting a high score. I was mainly just curious to see if I damaged my processor from overclocking and crashing.
I booted into recovery and used CW and booted back into a copy of sense I had. I did that linpak test again a was suprised to see how it scored 31. That's higher than CM7! So does this mean my processor is not damaged?
I will eventually go back to CM7 because I love all the effects and battery life was extended significantly. I should just probably stick with the stock kernel.
Thanks for all your help guys
I may try that supercharge script soon though if its safe.

Littleazn248 said:
I have three evo's two are box stock and one is rooted, and is running cyanogen mod 7 kernel and rom.
The problem is the linpak and quadrant score on the modified evo are actually lower than the stock evo. For example the stock evo is doing a linpak of 30 while my modified evo is only doing about 21. Likewise my quadrant score tends to be pretty low. I have to clock my modified evo to the max to pass the stock evo.
What gives why is my evo overclocked to 1.13 with custom kernel and rom slower? I set the profile to performance.
A while back while using the tiamat kernel I set my overclock to 1.2 and the phone just froze and shutdown did I damage the phone. This happened several times because it kept on rebooting. Today I set the clock 1.190 and the phone froze and shutdown again. Right now I am running the Cyanogen Kernel and no issues so far but why is my phone so slow. Both evos don't have much apps at all only one or two(excluding the stock sprint apps on the stock evo)
Thanks for your help
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You are running a governor which down clocks the processor. Quadrant does not tax the processor enough to hit your Max CPU speed. Set min and Max to 998 and test again. Try performance(for best results) or interactive/ondemand governers. You can change the settings in the CyanogenMod settings/ performance/ CPU settings menu.
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Overclocking a phone doesnt do much other then cause over heating. If someone can give me a good reason to overclock I will gladly change my opinion.
Stock is set to optimal performance. IE HTC has performance tested the phone on this ROM and has proven no ill effects.
Custom ROMS are works in progress they have a lot of benefits and for some, are exactly what they are looking for.

tnerb123 said:
Overclocking a phone doesnt do much other then cause over heating. If someone can give me a good reason to overclock I will gladly change my opinion.
Stock is set to optimal performance. IE HTC has performance tested the phone on this ROM and has proven no ill effects.
Custom ROMS are works in progress they have a lot of benefits and for some, are exactly what they are looking for.
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Opinions r like assholes. And I don't agree with the way urs smells

Underclocking One X

guys i was wondering if anyone tried underclocking one x ,what battery life got , and its it worth it?
and can i underclock tegra 3 ? will we be able sometime?
i know maybe its a noob question but i really want to do something about battery life..
thnx in advance.

What kind of battery life are you getting anyway? It's pretty decent as it is right now.

ArmedandDangerous said:
What kind of battery life are you getting anyway? It's pretty decent as it is right now.
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cant get over 2 hours of screen on. ..
what about the underclocking though?

patomo09 said:
cant get over 2 hours of screen on. ..
what about the underclocking though?
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haw many days do you have it?

A week almost. (6days)..
I know.maybe its new but i dont know what the normal.is.
But i would like to know about the undercloking , if its available,if its help, and some.opinions.

if you're on the new update or have that power management fix installed, then i don't know. it's an app or a battery problem. i don't think we can oc/uc until there is kernel source, and i don't have knowledge of HTC history on that. if it doesn't improve in a week and you aren't running a bad app, then maybe exchange it?

Set CPU doesn't work on the one x so I tweeted the maker and he said he will try look into it, really needs kernel sources.
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I tried underclocking to 1GHz using SetCPU.
I used the phone an entire day with the SetCPU settings and compared it with other days.
I didn't get much different results, maybe we need a custom kernel?

I've been getting about 3+ hours screen time at 30% brightness at 1.26 Haven't really checked on 1.28 yet.

Most CPU apps don't work on the One X, tried some of them but CPU Spy still shows higher frequencies been used despite underclocking.

i really want to play games (like fruit ninja,temple run, angry birds) and i thnk those games doesnt need that power to run properly..
any way to underclock or undercore(will be available?) so not much battery drains when playing?

treebill said:
Set CPU doesn't work on the one x so I tweeted the maker and he said he will try look into it, really needs kernel sources.
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Aren't sources available on HTCDEV.com? I'm no dev, just asking.

schriss said:
Aren't sources available on HTCDEV.com? I'm no dev, just asking.
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Not yet they aren't. For the HOX only the bootloader-unlocking is available at this time.

patomo09 said:
i really want to play games (like fruit ninja,temple run, angry birds) and i thnk those games doesnt need that power to run properly..
any way to underclock or undercore(will be available?) so not much battery drains when playing?
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Try to install the app called tegrastats and you will see that while playing those light games, either 1 or 2 cpus are shut off or the frequency is dropped. That's the power of this socket, it will automatically adjust to the task at hand.
I agree, however, that there is a lot of room for improvement but that will hopefully be fixed when developers can work on a custom kernel.

is not possible make underclock yet?

How much is safe for overclocking?

I'm running Blackout v3.0, and it's running pretty smooth at first. But now my phone is stuffed with bunch of apps, making it running slower and slower. I want to keep those apps so I'm willing to overclock but I afraid of damaging my phone. So I would like to ask what's the safe overclocking frequency? I want the optimum frequency, fast enough and safe/stable.

ImjuzCY said:
I'm running Blackout v3.0, and it's running pretty smooth at first. But now my phone is stuffed with bunch of apps, making it running slower and slower. I want to keep those apps so I'm willing to overclock but I afraid of damaging my phone. So I would like to ask what's the safe overclocking frequency? I want the optimum frequency, fast enough and safe/stable.
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Any overclocking can be unsafe as it can shorten the lifespan of your memory and CPU. But with that said I run mine at 1200 with no issues. Most people don't go higher than 1600 but anything 1400 or lower is not going to burn it up too quick IMO. Everyones hardware will react differently though.
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They usually say phone will get damaged, but I think its a myth. You can go up to 1600. After that it will get unstable.
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ImjuzCY said:
I'm running Blackout v3.0, and it's running pretty smooth at first. But now my phone is stuffed with bunch of apps, making it running slower and slower. I want to keep those apps so I'm willing to overclock but I afraid of damaging my phone. So I would like to ask what's the safe overclocking frequency? I want the optimum frequency, fast enough and safe/stable.
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I run IceColdSandwich and have found 1459MHz to be the best combo of performance and stability on my phone. Every phone handles OCing a little differently, some can reportedly take over 1600 without a flinch and others will lock regularly with even a slight OC. Just experiment with the "set at boot" option turned off until you find something that works reliably on your phone.

Is it true you guys aren't seeing ill effects on your battery by overclocking like that?
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asif9t9 said:
Is it true you guys aren't seeing ill effects on your battery by overclocking like that?
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I think OC can affect battery drain only if you use an application which utilizes a full cpu load. But, if you're using this app in normal mode, economy will not be great also. So, when you using your phone for calling or general usage you will not see any problems with battery discharge.
I'm using DHD with Blackout v3.0 and I set 1200Mhz for maximum cpu value. I have no problems, phone is stable. Some time ago I used Leedroid ROM and set also 1200Mhz, but phone was rebooted by itself very often. More than twice a day.
You should try to use OC, as someone said above, without "set on boot" option. I think there is no danger for hardware up to 1600Mhz.

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Is it true you guys aren't seeing ill effects on your battery by overclocking like that?
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Not under normal use. There's a school of thought that says even though the increased speed requires more power, it can also finish tasks and go back to sleep faster, so it ends up being a wash. I've overclocked all three smartphones I've owned to date and haven't experienced any significant difference in battery life.

ai6908 said:
They usually say phone will get damaged, but I think its a myth. You can go up to 1600. After that it will get unstable.
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They say that as a precautionary measure just as they say flashing a custom ROM can be dangerous. For people who don't know what they're doing. But precaution aside, just like you said you can go up to 1600 MHz safely on this phone. I know every phone behaves differently but on average no one has issues upto that frequency. But above that frequency the phone might be unstable. The CPU will be drawing much more power at high frequencies and will heat up more. The CPU heating up too much and too frequently reduces the life of the CPU. So it's not a myth.
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2ghz.... the phone is old now. Make it bleed.
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Don't try to Cross above 1600.