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SYSTEM: 1900 MHz, 1.7/2.1 GHz
TECHNOLOGY: GSM / GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, LTE Planned
THe area i am in uses all three, 1900 1700 2100 mhz bands, so if i get a 1900 MHz cell phone repeater, that will improve my 3g/HSPA+ signal?
Not sure what frequencies are used for T-Mobile HSPA(+) services anymore with all the refarming and such going on. Thanks guys
elesbb said:
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SYSTEM: 1900 MHz, 1.7/2.1 GHz
TECHNOLOGY: GSM / GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, LTE Planned
THe area i am in uses all three, 1900 1700 2100 mhz bands, so if i get a 1900 MHz cell phone repeater, that will improve my 3g/HSPA+ signal?
Not sure what frequencies are used for T-Mobile HSPA(+) services anymore with all the refarming and such going on. Thanks guys
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where do you plan on getting yours from? would rather have a repeater then stay on touchwiz just for wifi calling
In for the info. I need a little bump in signal at the house.
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I could go for an LTE repeater
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Have you tried calling T-Mobile about that? I'm sure that if you talked to someone deep enough in the customer service/technical support they would be able to give you an answer.
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where do you plan on getting yours from? would rather have a repeater then stay on touchwiz just for wifi calling
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EBay. They have a huge selection and from what I've found online the Dr cell brands are very good and last forever. They range from about 140 and up. Which sucks lol.
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In for the info. I need a little bump in signal at the house.
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so far from what I'm discovering, if your area has the refarmed towers to support the HSPA+ 1900 MHz frequency, then a 1900 repeater will work. Otherwise, you will need an AWS repeater. I'm thinking of getting the 1900 one. Every website I've found states that's supported in my area. Can always return it.
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Have you tried calling T-Mobile about that? I'm sure that if you talked to someone deep enough in the customer service/technical support they would be able to give you an answer.
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Hoping to avoid a 2 hour call that once I hit the right person will end in 2 minutes xD but I might web chat them.
And lte repeaters are very pricey! Lol
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I would be purchasing from Ebay, or Amazon. There is just a couple places in my house the signal goes in and out abd would like to fix that.
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elesbb said:
Hoping to avoid a 2 hour call that once I hit the right person will end in 2 minutes xD but I might web chat them.
And lte repeaters are very pricey! Lol
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Oh I understand, but for a $140+ investment, I'd rather take the time and make sure it's right than be all like "Well... that sucks." It's funny you posted this because I was thinking about the whole repeater thing the other day and after seeing the prices I decided to go ahead and stop researching lol.
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Oh I understand, but for a $140+ investment, I'd rather take the time and make sure it's right than be all like "Well... that sucks." It's funny you posted this because I was thinking about the whole repeater thing the other day and after seeing the prices I decided to go ahead and stop researching lol.
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Very true lol. But what i ended up doing was finding one of those Cel-Fi signal boosters from T-Mobile themselves that boosts the AWS frequency band (which i know is in my area) for 90 bucks BNIB (just opened) so hopefully that helps!
But i have done some more research, and after many articles of online posts, so long as your area has the refarmed towers to put out HSPA(+) on the 1900 MHz spectrum then any GSM 1900 MHz repeater will work. Just make sure its GSM and NOT CDMA. If you don't have the 1900 MHz band in your area. Then a GSM 1700 MHz repeater will work (thats pretty much what the Cel-Fi is) Can't wait! No more dead spots!
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You can get them for no cost from tmobile if you are on a classic plan. Not sure about other plans. They are out of stock right now. I am on the wait list.
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You can get them for no cost from tmobile if you are on a classic plan. Not sure about other plans. They are out of stock right now. I am on the wait list.
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You have to meet certain specifications. Which I don't think I meet. Plus according to their website, they are no longer available
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Just an update. Got my T-Mobile Cel-Fi repeater just now. And it's working ^-^
I now get 4g in my basement! Just wish the output power of the broadcast was stronger. Barely reaches my room.
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Does anyone under the new 1900mhz spectrum report better signal in buildings?
I love penetrating buildings
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I love penetrating buildings
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Ahem, do you need a professional ?
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Ahem, do you need a professional ?
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Apparently they do.
Whats this 1900 talk? Is it faster 4g or something?
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Whats this 1900 talk? Is it faster 4g or something?
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I believe its the same 4g just on another frequency which is better than the 2100 MHz tmobile is currently using. My question is as the frequency is obviously lower which should mean better signal in buildings, if it is translating into this.
This also means iphones should now be able to use 3g or 4g whatever it is on tmobile's network. YouTube T-Mobile iPhone 3g to see some areas already have coverage.
I noticed I had better signal yesterday, in my place of work. Usually in the middle of the store, I get little to no signal.
I have a feeling that maybe it was just chance, but I'll see again tonight. I think I still lost signal in a few places. But it was better in the places that I used to get 1 bar.
Guessing this new frequency is out everywhere?
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Guessing this new frequency is out everywhere?
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I was about to edit my post but I'll just quote you and say:
I'm not even sure if it's out over here. I just happen to notice a little better performance last night and then saw this today.
Could just be my mind trying to connect dots that aren't there. :laugh:
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Guessing this new frequency is out everywhere?
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There's a map online of places where people have reported the new freqiency . Might not be the greatest source as it isn't official but taking a look won't hurt. I live in south Florida and I get signal mostly everywhere except at the mall and in my living room.
Im on straight talk so im wondering if im SOL :\
How the hell do you know what frequency you're currently on?
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How the hell do you know what frequency you're currently on?
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Good question you can't tell unless you have an iPhone or an att phone on tmobile and can now use their 3g/4g as att 3g works on the 1900 MHz frequency that T-Mobile has been rolling out recently. Another way to tell might be if your signal is better I buildings where they were pretty poor but that's subjective.
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Im on straight talk so im wondering if im SOL :\
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Well to my understanding doesn't straight talk work on T-Mobile's towers.
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Well to my understanding doesn't straight talk work on T-Mobile's towers.
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Yeah that's why im thinking it will work
So has anyone confirmed their Galaxy Nexus running on T-Mobiles 1900mhz spectrum
www.airportal.de shows you where Tmobile has refarmed their 1900mhz from 2g to 3g. It won't be in all markets due to lack of spectrum, but a lot of the spectrum gained from the failed ATT takeover has helped them to be able to do this.
I won't mention exactly, but there are other forums to check out that have hundreds of posts talking about the coverage, finding out how/where your phone might be connected, etc.
Also, some have mentioned better coverage in a building. If there is, I doubt it's due to the frequency. Tmobile uses 1700mhz for their hspa+ currently, and the 2100mhz side is for the uplink on that. 1900mhz would technically have worse coverage since it is higher than 1700mhz, but in the real world I don't think it's that big of a difference. Someone with more physics knowledge add or correct me on this.
Edit: The map I linked is obviously user reports. So, it's only as good as that and obviously nothing official. Also, Tmobile's officially launched 1900mhz 3g in Las Vegas and somewhere in Kansas so far.
Rafael S. said:
Good question you can't tell unless you have an iPhone or an att phone on tmobile and can now use their 3g/4g as att 3g works on the 1900 MHz frequency that T-Mobile has been rolling out recently. Another way to tell might be if your signal is better I buildings where they were pretty poor but that's subjective.
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You can also go to the service menu and select USA band instead of automatic. This will use the 1900 band. If you get 3g you are in an area with 1900 that got refarmed.
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Is there anyway to make it switch automatically and do you have to do this every time you reboot?
I'm sick of slow 3g speeds, my area got wimax so we are going to be last for lte (not that I got any wimax with my gs2) so I've been thinking of switching to Verizon... I'm still not decided but if I do decide can I take the phone with me or is it a waste of 800 dollars if I do it?
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I believe it's possible, but I'm not familiar with the process. And it definitely looks like it has some challenges from what I've read on some of the posts for going to TMobile, Boost, and so forth. I would definitely look at some of those threads to see what it involved.
If you did pay $800, you can probably sell it and get most of your money back.
As for LTE, I think if you got WiMax in your area, you'll probably get LTE sooner or later. Maybe you should ask Sprint when they plan to bring it to you market. I lieve in araa that didn't have WiMax, but I could drive fifteen minutes and get to areas that did. But we got LTE in the areas where I live and work. And most of the WiMax near me got LTE as well.
As for 3G with LTE, although the speeds are increased, in my area, it's not that big of a bump. It's only about .50Mbps, especially compared to the LTE speeds. I find I'm averaging around 1.2Mpbs on 3G, whereas before it was around .8Mbps.
Plus, you'll definitely want to see what the Verizon are getting, and maybe specifically on the GN2. Then you'll need to consider how, if any, change to how you'll use the GN2. Are you going to use more data, say more media streaming? I'm not that familiar with Verizon, but I'm not sure if they offer unlimited data. I know they use to. It's possible they may throttle as well. If there isn't a unlimited, then you'll need to know how much you use and how much that usage will cost on them.
I understand your frustration about the speeds. When I had the BlackBerry Curve for Sprint, which was on the iDEN network, the data speeds were so slow, I literally couldn't stream audio without a lot buffering; It was like being back on the 54.4k modem days on the PC. Going to the Evo 4G from that, even without the WiMax available, was like lightening fast. Sprint will bring LTE. It's just a question of when.
It depends on the frequency that the sprint note 2 supports. It has to have the 700 mhz frequency for verizon lte. I havent looked at sprints note 2 frequencys on this phone or not. Look into and see what all frequencies the sprint variant supports.
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musclehead84 said:
It depends on the frequency that the sprint note 2 supports. It has to have the 700 mhz frequency for verizon lte. I havent looked at sprints note 2 frequencys on this phone or not. Look into and see what all frequencies the sprint variant supports.
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Lte will never work the sprint lte frequencies are 800, 1900 and 2500mhz and I'm not even certain current device's support 800 or 2500mhz yet as they won't be available until mid 2014 when iden is fully decommissioned for 800 and wimax is decommissioned for 2500
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The fact that your area got Wimax has no relation whatsoever to the order or timeframe that it will receive LTE.
For Sprint LTE info please refer to s4gru.com, specifically http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/ in which they have basically ALL the LTE rollout information. Moreover, if you donate any amount (say $3) you become a sponsor and have access to maps with the towers that already have LTE etc.
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The fact that your area got Wimax has no relation whatsoever to the order or timeframe that it will receive LTE.
For Sprint LTE info please refer to s4gru.com, specifically http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/ in which they have basically ALL the LTE rollout information. Moreover, if you donate any amount (say $3) you become a sponsor and have access to maps with the towers that already have LTE etc.
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My area isn't even mentioned on the site... I tried searching my state and the biggest city around and the wasn't any matches. I live in Utah, neither Utah nor salt Lake City are mentioned on any of the 4 rounds of rollouts... Yet I got Wimax
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Finally a Tri-band Lte phone. The G2 is pretty much a GS4 how many of you will choose this device over say the Note III? I personally am looking at this phone with interest. My note 2 gets the best Lte in all the places I rarely visit, so yea I'm looking for faster speeds in and around my main areas.
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Why should I buy a LG instead of Samsung? For their lousy update support? Too bad the Note II doesn't provide LTE on Sprint.
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Why should I buy a LG instead of Samsung? For their lousy update support? Too bad the Note II doesn't provide LTE on Sprint.
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I have lte on sprint.
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Why should I buy a LG instead of Samsung? For their lousy update support? Too bad the Note II doesn't provide LTE on Sprint.
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Because its being in the same bandwagon as Samsung lol. I have note 2 using sprint LTE.
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Note 2 here and rocking 4glte on it not sure what you inhailed that day to think the note2 doesn't support lte
Rockin it from my Macknote2
Every tower is supposed to have all lte bands... In a matter of time (maybe two years)... So it's kinda pointless....
I could be wrong
All lte bands not just the 1900mhz lg's phone includes the two bands from the repurposed 800 plus clearwires LTE hence Tri-band lte....
Im not a bandwagoner I'd like to get better speeds than what I currently am getting most of the time I'm getting 2mbps and below.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...ObjfBMpVOts4SiMmjGcPCaQ&bvm=bv.50500085,d.aWc here is the phone
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I have lte on sprint.
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Sorry, I just had a look at the Sprint website and their was no 4G LTE mentioned. Next time I better check more websites.
You do realize Sprint is going to have three flavors of LTE up soon correct? The LTE currently up is 1900 Mhz. Their going to re-purpose their 800 mhz into LTE which is good for building penetration, 2500 mhz is clearwires lte which is supposedly going to offer 50+mbps plus there going to have TDD-LTE which is a lot better than FD-LTE which everyone is using currently.
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You do realize Sprint is going to have three flavors of LTE up soon correct? The LTE currently up is 1900 Mhz. Their going to re-purpose their 800 mhz into LTE which is good for building penetration, 2500 mhz is clearwires lte which is supposedly going to offer 50+mbps plus there going to have TDD-LTE which is a lot better than FD-LTE which everyone is using currently.
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Pretty cool but If they have 800mhz lte wouldn't you be connecting to 800mhz lte all the time? Inside or outside? It would give you the best signal right?
Most of the time you would still connect to 1900 but once your in a building and there's a 800 site near you then yes
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Most of the time you would still connect to 1900 but once your in a building and there's a 800 site near you then yes
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Actually, once you're on 800 you stay on 800, now I know there a whole prl debate going on in another thread, but I'll just say this, certain prls give me access to the 800smr thing going on, and I have that literally everywhere, but as soon as sprint updates the prl back to the broken one *cough cough* prl 2000, it goes back to 1900 and I never see 800 again, so it doesn't seem like there's much switching going on unless there's a network problem, just like lte, if you're in an lte area, well, you're always gonna see lte, unless it goes down or for whatever reason you put your phone in an area that blocks it
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True but I usually force it off 800 I'm on 55015 the only time I get 800 is when I'm at home
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Ok... I have gone round and round and round and round with AT&T on this issue. My data is nearly unusable while on a call. Most of the time it times out, and when it does work, it is ridiculously slow.
I have gone through the stores, technical support, wrote their corporate headquarters (which got no response whatsoever), Twitter, and finally I filed a complaint with the FCC.
The FCC complaint is where I am now, and they want to work with me on this issue. They keep focusing on the towers in my area (although it happens EVERYWHERE), and my phone (even though this is my second phone). Basically I am tired of wasting my time with this issue, and I want to point them to this thread to tell them this this is NOT just me. Maybe it is the Note 2, but I think it is their network. Hopefully this thread will tell me AND THEM.
So with that said, I would love for everyone to post their City/State, and 2 speed tests (one while on a call and one while not on a call). Not moving would be preferable.
I will post mine shortly.
Tampa Bay North
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Not sure why you so frustrated. But signal's are suppose to drop while on a call!! Your using data, and yes we can be on the web and be on a call at the same time. I've been doing it since I was first on AT&T. :thumbup:
But I'm thinking it's your area or the modem. Here's my results after reading your post. I decided to go out for breakfast and perform this test to see if it was that BAD! :what:
Here's my results:
NO CALL HERE
ON CALL NOW
Still above 10 mb down. BUT IT DID DROP DRASTICALLY BECAUSE I'M NO LONGER ON LTE CONNECTION.
Just my 2¢®
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To answer your question, I am upset because they advertise themselves as being able to use voice and data simultaneously and I can barely use my data while on a call. Most of the time it times out and I constantly have to redo my request. I think my problem is the ability to send data (which include acknowledgements and the request). I don't so much mind that it slows down, but being nearly unusable is a whole other story.
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To answer your question, I am upset because they advertise themselves as being able to use voice and data simultaneously and I can barely use my data while on a call. Most of the time it times out and I constantly have to redo my request. I think my problem is the ability to send data (which include acknowledgements and the request). I don't so much mind that it slows down, but being nearly unusable is a whole other story.
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And that I have been able to do always. Be on a call and the web. But I understand your frustration on it not writing when you want. And it being so slow.
Not sure what Rom, modem your using? But I don't really see that much of a problem. Unless I'm inside of a metal building!!
Lol
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Yeah look at my on call upload speed compared to you. Definitely a problem.
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Yeah look at my on call upload speed compared to you. Definitely a problem.
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I agree with you completely. On that note! What modem are you using. Take a screen shot of your about phone. Just curious if that is what is causing your problem. Wondering if your on the latest modem release..
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As an RBS Engineer I can explain why this happens to you.
Its due to a few reasons
1. What frequency is 1st carrier in your market 1900mhz or 850mhz
2. How many carriers are in your particular area (the most i have seen is 5 in the major metro areas)
3. How far away the next tower is to you
4. How saturated each carrier is
Whwn testing a new LTE site i will get 30-50mbps download and 20mbps up
Thats cuz im the ONLY one on the carrier at the time.
So a tower is made up of carriers, each carrier has sectors with a corresponding antenna that face a different direction (Alpha Beta Gamma)
You have multiple carriers in areas where theres heavy traffic.
now back to your phone its multi banded 1900, 850, 700/2100(lte)
If your market is 850 first carrier and 850 second carrier your data while on the phone will be almost non existent becuase that band on your phone is in use with your call. But if you have 850 1st carrier then 1900 second carrier or vice versa then your speeds will be decent. For whatever reason when you place a call your data automatically switches to HSPA most likely due to the VOIP on the LTE band leaving only the 3g band for data. Now I dont engineer the network itself becuase I dont understand why LTE isnt left open for data while were on calls.
I dont know if i confused you more or if that helped.
Hope it helped though
Its like a highway
A carrier is a single highway with multiple lanes 850mhz 1900mhz 700mhz(for lte 1st carrier) and 2100 (for lte 2nd)
If your area has only 2 carriers 850mhz and 850mhz its like 2 lanes on a highway going in the same direction and the other side of the highway is blocked
If its 850mhz and 1900mhz but there is heavy traffic and not enough carriers its like bieng stuck in 5 o clock traffic and trying to turn around. Its busy on both lanes so everything is slow
Each carrier adds lanes for traffic in a typical metro area you will see someting like
1st carrier 850mhz
2nd 850mhz
3rd 1900mhz
4th 850 mhz
5th 1900 mhz
LTE 1st carrier 700mhz
LTE 2nd Carrier 2100mhz
Thats a lot of lanes for traffic
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As an RBS Engineer I can explain why this happens to you.
Its due to a few reasons
1. What frequency is 1st carrier in your market 1900mhz or 850mhz
2. How many carriers are in your particular area (the most i have seen is 5 in the major metro areas)
3. How far away the next tower is to you
4. How saturated each carrier is
Whwn testing a new LTE site i will get 30-50mbps download and 20mbps up
Thats cuz im the ONLY one on the carrier at the time.
So a tower is made up of carriers, each carrier has sectors with a corresponding antenna that face a different direction (Alpha Beta Gamma)
You have multiple carriers in areas where theres heavy traffic.
now back to your phone its multi banded 1900, 850, 700/2100(lte)
If your market is 850 first carrier and 850 second carrier your data while on the phone will be almost non existent becuase that band on your phone is in use with your call. But if you have 850 1st carrier then 1900 second carrier or vice versa then your speeds will be decent. For whatever reason when you place a call your data automatically switches to HSPA most likely due to the VOIP on the LTE band leaving only the 3g band for data. Now I dont engineer the network itself becuase I dont understand why LTE isnt left open for data while were on calls.
I dont know if i confused you more or if that helped.
Hope it helped though
Its like a highway
A carrier is a single highway with multiple lanes 850mhz 1900mhz 700mhz(for lte 1st carrier) and 2100 (for lte 2nd)
If your area has only 2 carriers 850mhz and 850mhz its like 2 lanes on a highway going in the same direction and the other side of the highway is blocked
If its 850mhz and 1900mhz but there is heavy traffic and not enough carriers its like bieng stuck in 5 o clock traffic and trying to turn around. Its busy on both lanes so everything is slow
Each carrier adds lanes for traffic in a typical metro area you will see someting like
1st carrier 850mhz
2nd 850mhz
3rd 1900mhz
4th 850 mhz
5th 1900 mhz
LTE 1st carrier 700mhz
LTE 2nd Carrier 2100mhz
Thats a lot of lanes for traffic
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Well it seems to happen everywhere that I go which is as far as 70 miles in any direction. The big 3 are in my area (Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon) as well as T-Mobile and Metro (but I am not sure if Metro is their own or they use other carriers).
The major metro areas that I visit are Tampa and Orlando and they do the same thing. I live in a rural area (so the towers are not very saturated), and there is a tower about 1.5 miles (tops) in either direction of me.
I am not sure what frequency my area is. How can I tell?
This is expected. AT&T doesn't support voice over LTE yet, so when you place a phone call the modem needs to switch back to the 3G/Fake 4G HSPA+ network. I'm guessing you just have poor 4G reception. Can you disable LTE and then do a speedtest on the regular 4G network?
Prior to the LTE implementation I was getting far better speeds on the HSPA+ network..
How do I disable LTE to get a current HSPA+ test?
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Looks like this might be the easiest way: http://forums.androidcentral.com/t-...3-you-can-disable-hspa-too-2.html#post2551614
Edit: while on a call I get 1663Kbps down and just 93Kbps up, so this might not be unique to you.
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This is expected. AT&T doesn't support voice over LTE yet, so when you place a phone call the modem needs to switch back to the 3G/Fake 4G HSPA+ network. I'm guessing you just have poor 4G reception. Can you disable LTE and then do a speedtest on the regular 4G network?
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On HSPA+ I get 2.2 meg down and almost 1 meg up (910k).
FAR better than what I get while on a call in an LTE area.
OK after reading this thread. Do y'all think this problem will be fixed for the Note 3 because I read the note 3 will have the strongest LTE chip available? Or will it be determined on how heavy data traffic is on your frequency?
At&t hasn't supported voice+LTE data. Its the original voice+3G data. Its not the phone.
A given market can be very large it can encompass a whole state. I work in the south texas market which is basically EVERYTHING south of killeen texas. I have driven as far as 6hrs to south padre from austin and I remain in the same market. That was almost 400 miles south. Houston is part of the same market as well as all the way to east to the border of lousiana.
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At&t hasn't supported voice+LTE data. Its the original voice+3G data. Its not the phone.
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ranger - thanks but that doesn't explain the problems I experienced.
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A given market can be very large it can encompass a whole state. I work in the south texas market which is basically EVERYTHING south of killeen texas. I have driven as far as 6hrs to south padre from austin and I remain in the same market. That was almost 400 miles south. Houston is part of the same market as well as all the way to east to the border of lousiana.
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So how can I determine the frequency of my market to answer your original inquiry??
This is Brazil´s top four networks frequencies;
1-Vivo
GSM-900/1800 (GPRS, EDGE)
2100 MHz UMTS, HSDPA, HSPA+
2600 MHz LTE
2-TIM
GSM-900/1800 (GPRS, EDGE)
2100 MHz UMTS, HSDPA,
2600 MHz LTE
3-Claro
GSM-900/1800 (GPRS, EDGE)
2100 MHz UMTS, HSDPA, HSPA+
2600 MHz LTE
4-Oi
GSM-1800 (GPRS, EDGE)
2100 MHz UMTS, HSDPA
2600 MHz LTE
I know LTE won´t work, and from what I remember of Tmo´s 3G our S4 needs two bands to work (1700/2100 ?).
Can I make it work on a single 2100 band?
Or, am I really doomed and stuck with EDGE or worse?
Thanks
Is this a stupid question?
Its just a hard one to answer.. But you definitely won't get LTE, 3G/HSPA will probably be a hit or miss. Its not worth the gamble IMO
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serio22 said:
Its just a hard one to answer.. But you definitely won't get LTE, 3G/HSPA will probably be a hit or miss. Its not worth the gamble IMO
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Thanks. Unfortunately I already paid to get in. I´m in Brazil now for the world cup. I didn´t want to change my granfathered plan with tmo to get their "unlimited international data", and thinking about it, if I can get 3G with tmo over here then I can get with the local carriers. But what I´m afraid of is that tmo´s free data is only edge as they have a page saying "Standard speeds approx. 128 Kbps (for all countries)". So it wouldn´t do me much good to change the plans anyway.
What I was hoping was that the phone would be capable of using the 2100MHz both ways or that I could flash a radio that would allow the s4 to work that way.
I´ll test the first premise at the store on Wednesday. If anybody knows about the second one, please tell.
Thanks.
Oh I thought you lived in Brazil and was looking to get one.. And yup the standard is 2G unlimited but I think if you pay around $50 you get 5gb of high speed internet, which I guess would be 3g/hspa, don't know about LTE
Edit: there is a possibility 3g/h will work, all T-Mobile phones should support that band so hopefully it'll be able to pick it up
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Oh I thought you lived in Brazil and was looking to get one.. And yup the standard is 2G unlimited but I think if you pay around $50 you get 5gb of high speed internet, which I guess would be 3g/hspa, don't know about LTE
Edit: there is a possibility 3g/h will work, all T-Mobile phones should support that band so hopefully it'll be able to pick it up
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Well, well, well... unless my phone is reporting wrong or their hspa+ is real fast here, i think I'm getting LTE in Brasil with a US phone.
As soon as I put the SIM card in, a LTE 4G sign appeared on thr top right. I couldn't believe it so I did a test with that speedtest app (oogla?) and got around 15Mbps download and around 3Mbps upload. The bad part is that the app used 50MB for test, which cost me around a buck just for the test. But it made me so happy that I think it was worth it.
So what do you think of that? Is this a real fast 3g+, or does this phone have the LTE band (4?) they use here?
There are stories about it having all the bands, and maybe the limited bands story is just FUD.
Would their sim card be able to make changes to the phone? Cause I found a new app with the carrier name installed after I put the sim in, and my phone wasn't set to allow installation from 'unknown sources'.
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Well, well, well... unless my phone is reporting wrong or their hspa+ is real fast here, i think I'm getting LTE in Brasil with a US phone.
As soon as I put the SIM card in, a LTE 4G sign appeared on thr top right. I couldn't believe it so I did a test with that speedtest app (oogla?) and got around 15Mbps download and around 3Mbps upload. The bad part is that the app used 50MB for test, which cost me around a buck just for the test. But it made me so happy that I think it was worth it.
So what do you think of that? Is this a real fast 3g+, or does this phone have the LTE band (4?) they use here?
There are stories about it having all the bands, and maybe the limited bands story is just FUD.
Would their sim card be able to make changes to the phone? Cause I found a new app with the carrier name installed after I put the sim in, and my phone wasn't set to allow installation from 'unknown sources'.
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that's surprising but yes it does have band 4 LTE, good to know it works!! didn't think 2600mhz would be band 4, or it may have larger support for LTE bands, couldn't say for sure since I never go out of the country to test on my own
Edit: and what do you mean making changes to the phone?
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pcmp said:
Well, well, well... unless my phone is reporting wrong or their hspa+ is real fast here, i think I'm getting LTE in Brasil with a US phone.
As soon as I put the SIM card in, a LTE 4G sign appeared on thr top right. I couldn't believe it so I did a test with that speedtest app (oogla?) and got around 15Mbps download and around 3Mbps upload. The bad part is that the app used 50MB for test, which cost me around a buck just for the test. But it made me so happy that I think it was worth it.
So what do you think of that? Is this a real fast 3g+, or does this phone have the LTE band (4?) they use here?
There are stories about it having all the bands, and maybe the limited bands story is just FUD.
Would their sim card be able to make changes to the phone? Cause I found a new app with the carrier name installed after I put the sim in, and my phone wasn't set to allow installation from 'unknown sources'.
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If you see the 4G LTE symbol in the notification bar, then you are using 4G LTE. Kewl.
Rob