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Rooted or Not Rooted

Rooter or not rooter
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Rooted is better if you know how to use a rooted phone. If he has no idea than he may just mess his phone up.
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if he doesnt want to root.. then let him be, he'll just be missing out.

I rooted to get the latest firmware [in canada it goes through samsung womp-womp ] and to get some extra customization out of my phone. It can give a phone the extra features you might feel are missing.

I always root my androids except my nexus's I rarely root them and as of now haven't my gnex

zephiK said:
if he doesnt want to root.. then let him be, he'll just be missing out.
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This! If he sees the pros + cons then decides he doesn't want it, then he shouldn't. You're a bad friend if you force him to do something he's not comfortable with to his phone.
AndreaCristiano said:
I always root my androids except my nexus's I rarely root them and as of now haven't my gnex
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Same. Loving my GNex bone stock.

lazcoreaedu said:
Hey guys I'm trying to convince my buddy that root is the way to go, I myself have my phone rooted and wouldn't go back to stock for any reasons, I've told him why he should go with root but he just wants some more opinions, so please can you give us your 2 cent on what's better rooted or not rooted?
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Regardless of whether he ultimately wants to root or not - make sure that even if it's remotely on the radar that he unlocks the BOOTLOADER as soon as he gets the phone.
Unlocking the bootloader wipes the ENTIRE phone (SD card partition and all) so it's something to do before anything else.
With the ability to subsequently make backups, rooting can easily come later.

It's rather simple:
If you don't know why you want root, you don't need root.

Valynor said:
It's rather simple:
If you don't know why you want root, you don't need root.
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I was going to say the same.
If he doesn't want/know then he SHOULDN'T cause he could end up with a bricked phone.

There's absolutely no reason to try to convince your friend, you're doing a disservice.
Murphy's law says he'll end up bricking it.
Unless you enjoy modding and willing to take the risk, let them use it stock - it's far more stable anyway.

Valynor said:
It's rather simple:
If you don't know why you want root, you don't need root.
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My thoughts exactly!

If your friend doesn't want it, he didn't need it. Eot.
And since you seem confused and mixing terms.... You can still be on stock while rooted.
You can even run a custom firmware without being rooted/having root.
Rooted merely means having local admin rights on the OS you are currently running. Custom firmware or not us entirely unrelated.
On most Samsung phones you don't even need to root to load custom ROMs, because they have open bootloaders. They're is no real relation between these terms which you are mixing.
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You can root the factory image so he'll still be stock with root. It'd best to root in case he wants future access for whatever, for example titanium backup would let him backup all his data, needs root. There are a milkion reasons to need root for very basic things.

Steal his phone, root it, install aokp/franco/theme and be like I dunno.. It just said update and I clicked yes, sorry bro.
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RogerPodacter said:
You can root the factory image so he'll still be stock with root. It'd best to root in case he wants future access for whatever, for example titanium backup would let him backup all his data, needs root. There are a milkion reasons to need root for very basic things.
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But if the guy doesn't want to use any of those things, there's no need to root it in the first place. If he doesn't see the value in it right now theres no need to force him into it. Rooting because you think he'll want it later in the future makes no sense.
ChongoDroid said:
Steal his phone, root it, install aokp/franco/theme and be like I dunno.. It just said update and I clicked yes, sorry bro.
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What a stupid suggestion.

ChongoDroid said:
Steal his phone, root it, install aokp/franco/theme and be like I dunno.. It just said update and I clicked yes, sorry bro.
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this was my thought too!

At least let him figure out how to do it himself. If he figures it out. It might be for him. Let him do it via fast boot commands. Not one click.
I remember fist time rooting. I only had to press "root" in an app, and I ended up messing my sgs i9000 up completely. I had to learn everything the hard way. The right way. You should never do anything to your phone, unless you know how to get back to where you were.

How to root my new Note 2 i317 AT&T with 4.1.2 update?

I am having difficulty finding the thread here and I saw a few websites but not sure if I trust them. What is the best method, how-to for someone that has never rooted an android device before (done many iphones). Any good picture step-by-step procedures anywhere?
Thanks guys. I searched but had a hard time finding it here vs Google. Here is one I found, but unsure about it.
http://galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-note-2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-easiest-method/

Can't get any easier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050297
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Search before jumping and make sure you are good with returning to stock. All of this info is in the forums already.

Thanks but that doesn't look like a step-by-step instructions on what I was looking for. :/

Now is this how we start the new year off....OP the information has been provided, just take your time and do your homework, give attention to detail, so you do not wrong your device.
Other Members just provide as you have done, and no need to bash, Thank You all.

nizmoz said:
Thanks but that doesn't look like a step-by-step instructions on what I was looking for. :/
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I was going to say something mean but I decided not to.

I still don't see instructions anywhere on that page on how to do this root. Pretty sad I am getting better responses on other Android sites than this one. Plus what I do see is his rom has issues with 4.1.2 update.

nizmoz said:
I still don't see instructions anywhere on that page on how to do this root. Pretty sad I am getting better responses on other Android sites than this one. Plus what I do see is his rom has issues with 4.1.2 update.
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You amaze me but I will try one more time to help.
Look at the link I gave you in post 2. Download the app in post 1 of that thread. Install it and follow the instructions from that thread. They are there and detailed. You press a few buttons and are rooted. There is no ROM on that thread.
I say this in all seriousness and am not trying to be mean, but you need to stop and think before you move forward. If you are having trouble reading this thread and the one I linked to you, then you probably don't understand what to do without causing damage. Read, read, read, read, and then read some more before you go any further. There are also numerous threads in this forum giving detailed step by step instructions.
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nizmoz said:
I still don't see instructions anywhere on that page on how to do this root. Pretty sad I am getting better responses on other Android sites than this one. Plus what I do see is his rom has issues with 4.1.2 update.
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This video might help you, it exlains the thread/app Gvndeb60 posted:
http://youtu.be/G2_zHqsC4BE

There is a guide on Android Central with videos may help too! Same for process for the 4.1.2 update.

If you are having trouble understanding All those easy steps that are laid out for you. You should do research before rooting. Some things include learning what you can do when you root your device. It won't take long if you have some background in editing your phone system. But by the looks of it your going to seriously mess up your phone. And even if you are getting better responses on other sites. If you don't learn to respect people here you will be confused because every site that talks about rooting or provides a rom will lead you back here. This community is huge so learn to embrace and read threads before attacking our fellow members.
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nizmoz said:
I am having difficulty finding the thread here and I saw a few websites but not sure if I trust them. What is the best method, how-to for someone that has never rooted an android device before (done many iphones). Any good picture step-by-step procedures anywhere?
Thanks guys. I searched but had a hard time finding it here vs Google. Here is one I found, but unsure about it.
http://galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-note-2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-easiest-method/
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http://galaxynote2root.com/
just follow the video and you're good to go.

I did the root, but removed it since it broke my camera. So I need a root that does not break my camera and that doesn't require replacing those files as I saw online many not recommending it.

nizmoz said:
I did the root, but removed it since it broke my camera. So I need a root that does not break my camera and that doesn't require replacing those files as I saw online many not recommending it.
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Do the root by itself. Don't patch the exploit, as that's what appears to break the camera. I believe there's an option to undo the patch.
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just_visiting said:
http://galaxynote2root.com/
just follow the video and you're good to go.
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Simple easy to follow took less than 5 minutes... as opposed to my htc inspire 4g which was a pain in the ass! Before you root anything ask whats the design goal..identify the risks and BACKUP everything and make sure you know how to restore it! Lots of incredibly talented folks here it's ok to not know what your doing but not ok to not know who to ask before bulling ahead and making an expensive mistake!

wargear said:
Simple easy to follow took less than 5 minutes... as opposed to my htc inspire 4g which was a pain in the ass! Before you root anything ask whats the design goal..identify the risks and BACKUP everything and make sure you know how to restore it! Lots of incredibly talented folks here it's ok to not know what your doing but not ok to not know who to ask before bulling ahead and making an expensive mistake!
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Can I get an amen as to how far we have come from flashing the HTC inspire!!!!! What a pain in the arse that phone was to manipulate.S off,gold card,radio/matching ril etc,etc,etc.....lol,lol,lol

spycedtx said:
Do the root by itself. Don't patch the exploit, as that's what appears to break the camera. I believe there's an option to undo the patch.
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Is this safe?
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nizmoz said:
Is this safe?
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I've done it. Many others have done it. No 3rd eye has yet to appear on my face. I say it's safe.
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Maybe this is a dumb question, but people say to backup your device before you root. I thought that making nandroid or titanium backups required root... So how does one restore to an unrooted device without first rooting?

UCLAKoolman said:
Maybe this is a dumb question, but people say to backup your device before you root. I thought that making nandroid or titanium backups required root... So how does one restore to an unrooted device without first rooting?
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I've never done any sort of backups prior to rooting any phones in the last 3 yrs. Everything u need to unroot are available online.

UCLAKoolman said:
Maybe this is a dumb question, but people say to backup your device before you root. I thought that making nandroid or titanium backups required root... So how does one restore to an unrooted device without first rooting?
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Probably not before rooting. Using the Exynos Abuse apk, you will root in 5 seconds. It will put Super user on your phone and you can get Titanium Backup and then backup all user and system apps to your SD card etc. You can then debloat apps etc. You should probably uninstall the app with TB and keep it for a few days to make sure your phones works properly before deleting the app. Before flashing a ROM you should always backup incase something goes wrong you have something to flash back to.

about rooting. please help!

hi all I'm trying to root my phone but there is so many different ways to tour. I would like the simplest way to root but I want it to do everything that all rooting software would do. I've come across one click options and would like to do those since I don't have to use my computer. Please help! Thanks

you are so going to get bashed in here for asking that question. The expectation is that everybody reads everything they can and then if they are hung up on something they can post a question. I am a relative noob although I have lurked on this site for a few years. I don't bash anybody though.
I understand your frustration.
I simply flashed a single .tar file to my phone while my phone was in download mode. I felt it was very simple using windows on my Mac. There is the very simple Exynos exploit file somewhere here where you download it and basically install it. I thought that this Exynos installation did something to the camera app.
Hopefully, somebody here will help you determine what is best for you. I really haven't tried many methods of root. I like to stick with one I am familiar with since a lot things might go wrong if not done right.
I am not sure what you mean by having the root method do everything that all rooting software would do. When you root you are just gaining access to portions of your phones files that are locked when you buy it. If you want more 'stuff' then you would flash a custom rom after rooting

Thanks for not bashing me. I'm def a noob and I'm new to the android community. I moved from an iPhone to galaxy n2 so I'm learning as I go. Thanks for your help!

mitz85 said:
Thanks for not bashing me. I'm def a noob and I'm new to the android community. I moved from an iPhone to galaxy n2 so I'm learning as I go. Thanks for your help!
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Check out Chainfire's method for rooting. It's very simple, there is even a video instruction going step by step. It took me 5 minutes and I came from an Iphone. Head on over to the Original android development subforum, you'll see it there. Good luck!

Google "exynos abuse" if you have not already taken the ota update.
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Ceasare said:
Google "exynos abuse" if you have not already taken the ota update.
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I used the exynos abuse because I didn't need to use my computer to do it and it worked fine. But once I did the latest OTA update from AT&T, I lost root. So I did the Chainfire method. (See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980644 )
t's really easy and took about 5 min.

You might find a few helpful things on the page I made here.. Samsung Galaxy Note 2 ROMs & Community Links

First, take a breath...
mitz85 said:
hi all I'm trying to root my phone but there is so many different ways to tour. I would like the simplest way to root but I want it to do everything that all rooting software would do. I've come across one click options and would like to do those since I don't have to use my computer. Please help! Thanks
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Just got my Note 2 about 3 weeks ago and haven't ventured into rooting it yet, BUT I did research here on XDA about rooting before doing it to my Galaxy S2 (AT&T) and the one thing I want to mention is to take your time are read to confirm whether or not the procedures you're looking at are for the Note 2 AND for the variant you have. Using the wrong process (rooting, kerneling, installing custom rom) can cause all sorts of problems, so don't be impatient if you don't know what you're doing. And by all means DO A COMPLETE BACKUP before you do any rooting.
That said, when I did root my S2, it was a very easy process...took all of about 15 minutes to backup, root, install custom rom, etc.
Good luck...and let us know how you do!
Judi

[Q] Some Questions about Rooting and Unrooting the LG G3 32GB device.

Hello,
First sorry for that thread. I'm be a stranger to LG devices and I' m confused and not sure that I pick the right ansers from each threat.
Device: LG G3, 32 GB, V10F-TUR-XX
I' m really very new to LG's rooting process. Before I' used HTC and Samsung devices. I rooted and made a lot of things with my Samsung Note 2. Now give it away and purchased me the LG G3.
LG Rooting procedures are confusing and scaring me .
I' ll be very appreciated if someone could answer the questions below.
So far I see there are many rooting tools for the device. Which one is the proper one for my device. How do I know to choose the right one. I hope the device specs I mentioned above are enough.
What are exactly the differences between the rooting tools.
Are there locking mechanisms of the Kernel like on Samsung. Is it possible to lose the EFS partition like on Samsung devices.
Are there some codes like Samsung's KNOX.
Am I able to go back to the unrooted state.
Thanks in advance

dreamertr said:
Hello,
First sorry for that thread. I'm be a stranger to LG devices and I' m confused and not sure that I pick the right ansers from each threat.
Device: LG G3, 32 GB, V10F-TUR-XX
I' m really very new to LG's rooting process. Before I' used HTC and Samsung devices. I rooted and made a lot of things with my Samsung Note 2. Now give it away and purchased me the LG G3.
LG Rooting procedures are confusing and scaring me .
I' ll be very appreciated if someone could answer the questions below.
So far I see there are many rooting tools for the device. Which one is the proper one for my device. How do I know to choose the right one. I hope the device specs I mentioned above are enough.
What are exactly the differences between the rooting tools.
Are there locking mechanisms of the Kernel like on Samsung. Is it possible to lose the EFS partition like on Samsung devices.
Are there some codes like Samsung's KNOX.
Am I able to go back to the unrooted state.
Thanks in advance
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You may want to ask the moderators to move this to Q&A before you get flamed.
There is a root tripper.
I'd check out Purple Drake. It should work for all variants. I/O root may work for your variant though.
There is an EFS backup tool, I suggest you use it.
You can unroot if necessary. Or just flash the appropriate tot/dll files.
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beats4x said:
You may want to ask the moderators to move this to Q&A before you get flamed.
There is a root tripper.
I'd check out Purple Drake. It should work for all variants. I/O root may work for your variant though.
There is an EFS backup tool, I suggest you use it.
You can unroot if necessary. Or just flash the appropriate tot/dll files.
Sent from my m8
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Thank you for your effort. Hope I' ll do it in the right way. Wish me luck.

dreamertr said:
Thank you for your effort. Hope I' ll do it in the right way. Wish me luck.
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Not a problem. This is my first LG device as well. I've just had the time to read through everything. Thought it'd be best before I start messing with stuff

beats4x said:
Not a problem. This is my first LG device as well. I've just had the time to read through everything. Thought it'd be best before I start messing with stuff
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This is my second LG. Before I used LG Optimus but was not in the rooting business. I let my Note 3 untouched . I started rooting Samsung devices with my Note 2. So far I see rooting Samsung devices is much easier than the LG devices.
By the way thank you again. But I still not feeling ready to root my LG G3 :laugh:

dreamertr said:
This is my second LG. Before I used LG Optimus but was not in the rooting business. I let my Note 3 untouched . I started rooting Samsung devices with my Note 2. So far I see rooting Samsung devices is much easier than the LG devices.
By the way thank you again. But I still not feeling ready to root my LG G3 :laugh:
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Purple Drake is quick and easy, I wouldn't worry too much man.

beats4x said:
Purple Drake is quick and easy, I wouldn't worry too much man.
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No No. Rooting will be fine I think.
I only worry about to unroot the device to its original state.
This is important for me to get newer versions of the device's software. (Android's nwer versions like 4.5 or greater).
Thanx.

Updating question

Ok, I start this off with the fact that this is my first phone with the whole slot A&B thing. I've done a ton of reading but it's still very confusing to me. I'm very confused on what exactly to do when it comes to updates. I'm stock rooted with TWRP installed on slot A. I'm also on the December build. I would like to update but I don't know what the easiest way to go about it is to be honest. I feel like an idiot but I guess that's because I'm really old school when it comes to this stuff. My rooting/roming goes back to the Samsung Captivate and countless other phones up until it got to be too much of a hassle to get a phone from a carrier that could be messed with. Now that I have rambled on, I thought it would be different getting a Pixel but this whole slot thing has me all confused. I basically want to stay stock rooted for now and possibly try a kernel down the line but I'm very happy with stock for now. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

pside15 said:
Ok, I start this off with the fact that this is my first phone with the whole slot A&B thing. I've done a ton of reading but it's still very confusing to me. I'm very confused on what exactly to do when it comes to updates. I'm stock rooted with TWRP installed on slot A. I'm also on the December build. I would like to update but I don't know what the easiest way to go about it is to be honest. I feel like an idiot but I guess that's because I'm really old school when it comes to this stuff. My rooting/roming goes back to the Samsung Captivate and countless other phones up until it got to be too much of a hassle to get a phone from a carrier that could be messed with. Now that I have rambled on, I thought it would be different getting a Pixel but this whole slot thing has me all confused. I basically want to stay stock rooted for now and possibly try a kernel down the line but I'm very happy with stock for now. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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@Homeboy76 will get you squared away :good:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...-android-9-0-pie-unlock-t3857195/post77944292

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@Homeboy76 will get you squared away :good:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...-android-9-0-pie-unlock-t3857195/post77944292
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Thanks for the reply. I've read throughout that thread numerous times and I still can't determine the easiest way to update my phone and the necessary steps to take to get there. I just want to be stock rooted like I am now but don't know what steps to take to get there. Like do I need to unroot first, relock bootloader? I'm sure all those answers are in that thread but I'm probably just too dense to see them. I haven't really had a solid rooted phone in like 3 years so I'm used to things being done way different. Some times I miss my old HTC Inspire/Desire HD. There was so much development for that phone and it was all very straightforward.

pside15 said:
Thanks for the reply. I've read throughout that thread numerous times and I still can't determine the easiest way to update my phone and the necessary steps to take to get there. I just want to be stock rooted like I am now but don't know what steps to take to get there. Like do I need to unroot first, relock bootloader? I'm sure all those answers are in that thread but I'm probably just too dense to see them. I haven't really had a solid rooted phone in like 3 years so I'm used to things being done way different. Some times I miss my old HTC Inspire/Desire HD. There was so much development for that phone and it was all very straightforward.
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This guide is how I update the monthly security patches. It is predicated on the notion that you have the latest platform-tools (28.0.1) and that your computer and phone are communicating well. It doesn't not require you to switch slots, and it will not wipe your data, and, you do not have to unroot before you begin. Happy flashing, and good luck
And never ever ever relock the bootloader! :crying:

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This guide is how I update the monthly security patches. It is predicated on the notion that you have the latest platform-tools (28.0.1) and that your computer and phone are communicating well. It doesn't not require you to switch slots, and it will not wipe your data, and, you do not have to unroot before you begin. Happy flashing, and good luck
And never ever ever relock the bootloader! :crying:
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Awesome, thank you very much for that. Yeah, I figured that about the bootloader. Does it matter if I have TWRP installed? That's the one main confusing thing to me. How you can have TWRP installed or not installed. I'm used to absolutely having to have TWRP or some other kind of custom recovery installed. But like I said it's been quite a while since I was really able to root/ROM a phone. I was basically forced to move to AT&T and opted for the Active line of Galaxy phones since I have little kids plus even the phones that were rootable and such seemed like more of a hassle than it was worth. The last phone I had that had some good development was probably the LG G3 on T-MOBILE. For some reason the T-MOBILE version had an unlocked bootloader or could be unlocked, don't remember exactly. But then a coworker got a Pixel 2XL and I got the itch again, not knowing how much had really changed though. Ok, I think I've rambled on enough now. Thanks again for the help.

pside15 said:
Awesome, thank you very much for that. Yeah, I figured that about the bootloader. Does it matter if I have TWRP installed? That's the one main confusing thing to me. How you can have TWRP installed or not installed. I'm used to absolutely having to have TWRP or some other kind of custom recovery installed. But like I said it's been quite a while since I was really able to root/ROM a phone. I was basically forced to move to AT&T and opted for the Active line of Galaxy phones since I have little kids plus even the phones that were rootable and such seemed like more of a hassle than it was worth. The last phone I had that had some good development was probably the LG G3 on T-MOBILE. For some reason the T-MOBILE version had an unlocked bootloader or could be unlocked, don't remember exactly. But then a coworker got a Pixel 2XL and I got the itch again, not knowing how much had really changed though. Ok, I think I've rambled on enough now. Thanks again for the help.
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Doesn't matter if you have twrp installed or not. When you fastboot the update, it'll wipe it out anyway :good: